On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 01:06:42AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
I have the fear that the desire to get to this state might prompt some
regression fixes that have not necessarily gotten all the diligence that
would have been desirable.
This is a valid fear in general, but I haven't seen it happen yet.
Granted, I don't usually review scheme or C++ patches, so perhaps
people have been sneaking bad bugfixes in that way? But I
somewhat doubt that.
So I am not sure that a timed release
No. Absolutely not.
Yes, it might be good to change the release policy. But I will
not accept any discussion along those lines. We discussed matters
to death in GOP. It hasn't even been 12 months! What's the point
of having a serious policy discussion if it's going to change in a
few months?
In the summer, I will begin GOP2, and we will begin by reviewing
every single policy decision made in GOP. It will be understood
that whatever policies we agree upon in GOP 2 will hold for at
least the next year. We may end up having a yearly review of such
policies.
On the plus side, regressions are being addressed vigorously right now.
Other bugs, however, get to see this vigor as well, leading to more
regressions in their wake.
I think we're looking at about 30% Critical regressions due to
code in the past year. Solution? More eyes on reviews and/or
more regtests.
The bulk of Critical regressions happened during the long 2.13
process. Those block a stable release on the basis of last year's
policy discussions. To make matters worse, we've begun a big
review of the regression tests. I guessimate that we currently
have between 5 and 20 broken regtests; the regtest review will
probably find those.
In the long term, I think we're doing fine. For the first time
ever, we're not regularly breaking regtests. I cannot emphasize
how important this is -- back when I was handling bugs, I would
see 1-2 broken regtests every devel release. Unforuntately we're
in for some more pain in the next few months as we discover
previously-broken tests, but once that's shaken down, we'll have a
trustworthy set of regression tests.
- Graham
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