Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-31 Thread Davide Liessi
Il giorno mar 31 mar 2020 alle ore 14:28 Phil Holmes
 ha scritto:
> I believe that the scripts are not automatically updated for security
> reasons.

Ok, seems sensible.

> I should be able to do this manually when I next upload a build -
> I'm assuming that will not be too far into the future.  Is that OK?

Fine, no need to rush.

Best wishes.
Davide



Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-31 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: "Davide Liessi" 

To: "lilypond-devel" 
Cc: "Phil Holmes" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: 2.21.0 and announcements



Il giorno mar 31 mar 2020 alle ore 12:15 Phil Holmes
 ha scritto:

Probably expected.  The website text updates automatically - it pulls git
and does a "make website" every hour.  However, documents and 
functionality

only get updated with a new build via GUB.


The links that remained unchanged are part of the website: the script
I mentioned is run by `make website` to generate those links.
The download links are present in the current website, which means, I
think, that the script was run.
However they are the old version of the links without my changes,
which makes me think that an old version of the script was run to make
the website, instead of the current one.

Any ideas?



I believe that the scripts are not automatically updated for security 
reasons.  I should be able to do this manually when I next upload a build - 
I'm assuming that will not be too far into the future.  Is that OK?


--
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Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-31 Thread Davide Liessi
Il giorno mar 31 mar 2020 alle ore 12:15 Phil Holmes
 ha scritto:
> Probably expected.  The website text updates automatically - it pulls git
> and does a "make website" every hour.  However, documents and functionality
> only get updated with a new build via GUB.

The links that remained unchanged are part of the website: the script
I mentioned is run by `make website` to generate those links.
The download links are present in the current website, which means, I
think, that the script was run.
However they are the old version of the links without my changes,
which makes me think that an old version of the script was run to make
the website, instead of the current one.

Any ideas?



Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-31 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - 
From: "Davide Liessi" 

To: "lilypond-devel" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2020 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: 2.21.0 and announcements



Il giorno mar 31 mar 2020 alle ore 10:16  ha scritto:

It will eventually become part of the Website.


I see that the new links are already online, while the existing links
haven't changed yet.
My patch changed the make_download calls in
scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py, but it seems like the old
version of that script was run.
Is this expected or did I miss anything in my patch?

Best wishes.
Davide



Probably expected.  The website text updates automatically - it pulls git 
and does a "make website" every hour.  However, documents and functionality 
only get updated with a new build via GUB.


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Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-31 Thread pkx166h



On 31/03/2020 10:57, Davide Liessi wrote:

Il giorno mar 31 mar 2020 alle ore 10:16  ha scritto:

It will eventually become part of the Website.

I see that the new links are already online, while the existing links
haven't changed yet.
My patch changed the make_download calls in
scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py, but it seems like the old
version of that script was run.
Is this expected or did I miss anything in my patch?

Best wishes.
Davide


For those that know more than I do.

5867 Web: add 64-bit Mac download links - James Lowe
https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5867
http://codereview.appspot.com/579520043



Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-31 Thread Davide Liessi
Il giorno mar 31 mar 2020 alle ore 10:16  ha scritto:
> It will eventually become part of the Website.

I see that the new links are already online, while the existing links
haven't changed yet.
My patch changed the make_download calls in
scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py, but it seems like the old
version of that script was run.
Is this expected or did I miss anything in my patch?

Best wishes.
Davide



Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-31 Thread Davide Liessi
Dear James,

Il giorno mar 31 mar 2020 alle ore 10:16  ha scritto:
> Thispatch has now been pushed to current master.

thanks for taking care of it!

Best wishes.
Davide



Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-31 Thread pkx166h

Hello Davide,

Thispatch has now been pushed to current master.

It will eventually become part of the Website.

Thanks.

James


On 27/03/2020 07:07, pkx1...@posteo.net wrote:

Hello

On 26/03/2020 18:54, Davide Liessi wrote:

Dear David,

Il giorno gio 26 mar 2020 alle ore 17:11 David Kastrup  
ha scritto:

I think
we should point out on our download page that the GUB-provided
installers are _only_ for 32bit MacOSX, and that separate downloads may
be provided elsewhere (possibly linking to Marnen's page

I agree.
Patch attached (based on master), but I haven't tested it.


in the hope
that it does not get overloaded?).

Marnen's builds are hosted on Bintray, whose free plan allows
downloads for up to 1TB/month: how much traffic do we expect?

Best wishes.
Davide


I'll test the patch and create a tracker etc. So we don't lose it.

James





Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-27 Thread pkx166h

Hello

On 26/03/2020 18:54, Davide Liessi wrote:

Dear David,

Il giorno gio 26 mar 2020 alle ore 17:11 David Kastrup  ha 
scritto:

I think
we should point out on our download page that the GUB-provided
installers are _only_ for 32bit MacOSX, and that separate downloads may
be provided elsewhere (possibly linking to Marnen's page

I agree.
Patch attached (based on master), but I haven't tested it.


in the hope
that it does not get overloaded?).

Marnen's builds are hosted on Bintray, whose free plan allows
downloads for up to 1TB/month: how much traffic do we expect?

Best wishes.
Davide


I'll test the patch and create a tracker etc. So we don't lose it.

James




Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-26 Thread Davide Liessi
Dear David,

Il giorno gio 26 mar 2020 alle ore 17:11 David Kastrup  ha 
scritto:
> I think
> we should point out on our download page that the GUB-provided
> installers are _only_ for 32bit MacOSX, and that separate downloads may
> be provided elsewhere (possibly linking to Marnen's page

I agree.
Patch attached (based on master), but I haven't tested it.

> in the hope
> that it does not get overloaded?).

Marnen's builds are hosted on Bintray, whose free plan allows
downloads for up to 1TB/month: how much traffic do we expect?

Best wishes.
Davide
From 9322e358b2781dd58e393afaa5acd92956e0537a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Davide Liessi 
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2020 19:50:42 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] Web: add 64-bit Mac download links

Current Intel Mac builds are 32-bit and cannot run on Mac's latest
version 10.15.  Links to Marnen Laibow-Koser's 64-bit builds are
added in the download pages.  The existing link descriptions are
updated to be more precise on supported OS versions.
---
 Documentation/web/community.itexi  |  4 
 Documentation/web/download.itexi   | 14 +++---
 scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py |  4 ++--
 3 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/web/community.itexi b/Documentation/web/community.itexi
index c3ebab18e5..2cd060f601 100644
--- a/Documentation/web/community.itexi
+++ b/Documentation/web/community.itexi
@@ -635,6 +635,10 @@ the latest binary:
 
 @downloadDevelDarwinPPC
 
+@c file name is unpredictable, linking to main page
+@uref{https://bintray.com/marnen/lilypond-darwin-64,
+Mac OS X x86 64-bit (unofficial)}
+
 @downloadDevelWindows
 
 @downloadDevelSource
diff --git a/Documentation/web/download.itexi b/Documentation/web/download.itexi
index c3eb4fa2c5..f48b3cb538 100644
--- a/Documentation/web/download.itexi
+++ b/Documentation/web/download.itexi
@@ -263,17 +263,25 @@ acknowledged.
 @item
 @sourceimage{logo-macosx,,,}
 @downloadStableDarwinNormal
-For MacOS X 10.4 or higher, running on Intel CPUs (if in doubt,
-use this).
+For Mac OS X 10.4--10.5 running on Intel CPUs and Mac OS X
+10.6--10.14 (for 10.15 see below).
 
 
 @item
 @sourceimage{logo-macosx,,,}
 @downloadStableDarwinPPC
-For MacOS X 10.4 or higher, running on G3 and G4 CPUs (old Apple
+For Mac OS X 10.4--10.5 running on G3 and G4 CPUs (old Apple
 computers).
 
 
+@item
+@sourceimage{logo-macosx,,,}
+@c file name is unpredictable, linking to main page
+Unofficial 64-bit application bundles for macOS 10.15 are
+available at
+@uref{https://bintray.com/marnen/lilypond-darwin-64}.
+
+
 @end itemize
 
 @subsubheading Install
diff --git a/scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py b/scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py
index 3ab08061d3..7bba1332c7 100644
--- a/scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py
+++ b/scripts/build/create-weblinks-itexi.py
@@ -466,9 +466,9 @@ def make_all_downloads(macroName, version):
 "freebsd-64.sh", version, "1", "FreeBSD amd64")
 
 make_download("download"+macroName+"DarwinNormal", "darwin-x86/",
-"darwin-x86.tar.bz2", version, "1", "MacOS X x86")
+"darwin-x86.tar.bz2", version, "1", "Mac OS X x86 32-bit")
 make_download("download"+macroName+"DarwinPPC", "darwin-ppc/",
-"darwin-ppc.tar.bz2", version, "1", "MacOS X PPC")
+"darwin-ppc.tar.bz2", version, "1", "Mac OS X PPC")
 
 make_download("download"+macroName+"Windows", "mingw/",
 "mingw.exe", version, "1", "Windows")
-- 
2.25.1



Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-26 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude

Le 26/03/2020 à 18:38, David Kastrup a écrit :

Jean-Charles Malahieude  writes:


Would you mind letting me run translation-status and merge updated
docs from Franscisco and myself into staging?


I would not mind at all.  In fact, I'd have planned to do so myself, but
certainly would be glad for you to do it.



Done and pushed.

Please don't forget to cherry-pick from stable/2.20 the updated po files 
before the release process, otherwise the work will get lost (ca, da, 
de, eo, es, fr, it, ja, nl, sv).


Cheers,
--
Jean-Charles



Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Jean-Charles Malahieude  writes:

> Le 26/03/2020 à 17:11, David Kastrup a écrit :
>> Because once the big announcements are made, we want people to
>> actually
>> be able to work with what they find on the web page.
>> We can release 2.21.0 prior to that, of course, since the web page
>> updates are (I think) independent from releases.
>> 
>
> Would you mind letting me run translation-status and merge updated
> docs from Franscisco and myself into staging?

I would not mind at all.  In fact, I'd have planned to do so myself, but
certainly would be glad for you to do it.

-- 
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Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG

>> We can release 2.21.0 prior to that, of course, since the web page
>> updates are (I think) independent from releases.
> 
> Would you mind letting me run translation-status and merge updated
> docs from Franscisco and myself into staging?

And doing an LSR import would be nice, too – some updated snippets are
necessary for correct documentation.


Werner


Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-26 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude

Le 26/03/2020 à 17:11, David Kastrup a écrit :


Because once the big announcements are made, we want people to actually
be able to work with what they find on the web page.

We can release 2.21.0 prior to that, of course, since the web page
updates are (I think) independent from releases.



Would you mind letting me run translation-status and merge updated docs 
from Franscisco and myself into staging?


Cheers,
--
Jean-Charles





Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-26 Thread Urs Liska



Am 26. März 2020 17:46:07 MEZ schrieb Carl Sorensen :
>
>
>On 3/26/20, 10:12 AM, "lilypond-devel on behalf of David Kastrup"
>d...@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>
> So it's time to roll out 2.21.0 and I think the build instructions are
>   ok-ish for that.  We don't clarify the relations/recommendations for
>Guile-1.8/2.x but that relation/recommendation is currently in flux and
>this is an unstable release.
>
>We still haven't made the "big" 2.20 announcement, and 2.21.0 being out
>  would make the web page consistent with regard to stable/unstable, so
>that would seem like a good opportunity.
>
>Except that the web page currently is broken with some Python2/3
>problems, and that people are hitting a roadblock with MacOSX.  I think
>we should point out on our download page that the GUB-provided
>installers are _only_ for 32bit MacOSX, and that separate downloads may
>   be provided elsewhere (possibly linking to Marnen's page in the hope
>that it does not get overloaded?).
>
>I can provide a pretty robust mirror of Marnen's page if need be.  It
>would be on my university server with lots of bandwidth.

Could we do that too, Ralf, Moritz?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Carl
>

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Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-26 Thread Carl Sorensen


On 3/26/20, 10:12 AM, "lilypond-devel on behalf of David Kastrup" 
 
wrote:


So it's time to roll out 2.21.0 and I think the build instructions are
ok-ish for that.  We don't clarify the relations/recommendations for
Guile-1.8/2.x but that relation/recommendation is currently in flux and
this is an unstable release.

We still haven't made the "big" 2.20 announcement, and 2.21.0 being out
would make the web page consistent with regard to stable/unstable, so
that would seem like a good opportunity.

Except that the web page currently is broken with some Python2/3
problems, and that people are hitting a roadblock with MacOSX.  I think
we should point out on our download page that the GUB-provided
installers are _only_ for 32bit MacOSX, and that separate downloads may
be provided elsewhere (possibly linking to Marnen's page in the hope
that it does not get overloaded?).

I can provide a pretty robust mirror of Marnen's page if need be.  It would be 
on my university server with lots of bandwidth.

Thanks,

Carl




Re: 2.21.0 and announcements

2020-03-26 Thread Urs Liska



Am 26. März 2020 17:11:36 MEZ schrieb David Kastrup :
>
>So it's time to roll out 2.21.0 and I think the build instructions are
>ok-ish for that.  We don't clarify the relations/recommendations for
>Guile-1.8/2.x but that relation/recommendation is currently in flux and
>this is an unstable release.
>
>We still haven't made the "big" 2.20 announcement, and 2.21.0 being out
>would make the web page consistent with regard to stable/unstable, so
>that would seem like a good opportunity.
>
>Except that the web page currently is broken with some Python2/3
>problems, and that people are hitting a roadblock with MacOSX.  I think
>we should point out on our download page that the GUB-provided
>installers are _only_ for 32bit MacOSX, and that separate downloads may
>be provided elsewhere (possibly linking to Marnen's page in the hope
>that it does not get overloaded?).
>
>Because once the big announcements are made, we want people to actually
>be able to work with what they find on the web page.
>
>We can release 2.21.0 prior to that, of course, since the web page
>updates are (I think) independent from releases.
>
>Thoughts?

Sounds all reasonable to me.
Just wanted to state that I'm sorry I can't be involved more these days but 
that I'm happy to see that consistently high level of activity.

Urs

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