Re: critical issues -- hope you're having fun

2012-01-03 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival  writes:

> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:57:24PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
>> James  writes:
>> 
>> > My question to David, because I am not getting where the 'ire' is
>> > coming from, why do you care if we release dev after dev release vs
>> > stable?
>
> Yeah, especially since Carl was *already* making good progress on
> the GUB-related critical issues.
>
>> http://xkcd.com/386/>
>
> yep.
>
> Let's cut to the chase: I am an evil semi-overlord.  I jealously
> guard my ssh login to lilypond.org (along with Han-Wen's and
> Jan's), I am fickle, and I like to play with small kittens.  Due
> to my evil fickle nature, I am not going to change the stated
> policy until it has been in place for at least 12 months.  Any
> critical issue will block a stable release.  I am chuckling
> maniacally and delighting in how evil and wrong I am being.
>
> Don't like it?  You have three (effective) options:
> 1. don't add regressions.

The problem is that this actually falls into the categories
1a) don't mention regressions
1b) don't make significant enhancements
1c) don't contribute enhancements

> 2. fix (or help fix) any critical issues.

This is usually implemented as
2a) shrug your shoulders since they don't concern you and wait another
year.

> 3. build your own binary releases.

Usually done as

3a) never mind, I got my own checkout.

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David Kastrup

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Re: critical issues -- hope you're having fun

2012-01-03 Thread James
Hello,

On 3 January 2012 20:49, Graham Percival  wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:57:24PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
>> James  writes:
>>
>> > My question to David, because I am not getting where the 'ire' is
>> > coming from, why do you care if we release dev after dev release vs
>> > stable?
>
> Yeah, especially since Carl was *already* making good progress on
> the GUB-related critical issues.
>
>> http://xkcd.com/386/>
>
> yep.
>
> Let's cut to the chase: I am an evil semi-overlord.  I jealously
> guard my ssh login to lilypond.org (along with Han-Wen's and
> Jan's), I am fickle, and I like to play with small kittens.  Due
> to my evil fickle nature, I am not going to change the stated
> policy until it has been in place for at least 12 months.  Any
> critical issue will block a stable release.  I am chuckling
> maniacally and delighting in how evil and wrong I am being.
>
> Don't like it?  You have three (effective) options:
> 1. don't add regressions.
> 2. fix (or help fix) any critical issues.
> 3. build your own binary releases.
>
>
>
> Finally: I bet that Hitler had strong opinions on when open-source
> projects should release stable versions.
>
> Hugs and kisses,
> - Graham

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

!

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Re: critical issues -- hope you're having fun

2012-01-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:57:24PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
> James  writes:
> 
> > My question to David, because I am not getting where the 'ire' is
> > coming from, why do you care if we release dev after dev release vs
> > stable?

Yeah, especially since Carl was *already* making good progress on
the GUB-related critical issues.

> http://xkcd.com/386/>

yep.

Let's cut to the chase: I am an evil semi-overlord.  I jealously
guard my ssh login to lilypond.org (along with Han-Wen's and
Jan's), I am fickle, and I like to play with small kittens.  Due
to my evil fickle nature, I am not going to change the stated
policy until it has been in place for at least 12 months.  Any
critical issue will block a stable release.  I am chuckling
maniacally and delighting in how evil and wrong I am being.

Don't like it?  You have three (effective) options:
1. don't add regressions.
2. fix (or help fix) any critical issues.
3. build your own binary releases.



Finally: I bet that Hitler had strong opinions on when open-source
projects should release stable versions.

Hugs and kisses,
- Graham

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