dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Graham Percival
lilypad will not work on osx 10.4 x86.  It works on 10.4 ppc.  I
do not consider bugs in osx-10.4 x86 to be release-critical; they
should be filed as normal type-build bugs.  Somebody may want to
update the download page accordingly to avoid giving users the
wrong impression.

If somebody can make 10.4-x86 work, then it would be great to
officially support it again in the future.  However, I think
that's too far away; delaying 2.16.0 for that doesn't make sense.

- Graham

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Re: dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 07:51:20PM +, Graham Percival wrote:
 If somebody can make 10.4-x86 work, then it would be great to
 officially support it again in the future.  However, I think
 that's too far away; delaying 2.16.0 for that doesn't make sense.

oops, I should delay all emails by 5 minutes or something.

In case anybody thinks I'm being unfair to osx users: one of the
strongest reasons to move forward with 2.16 right now is so that
we can get a stable lilypond in the hands of 10.7 users.  Or, to
put it in my terms, to make those annoying 'why doesn't lilypond
run on 10.7?' people shut up.

This decision is a balance between 10.7 users vs. 10.4-x86 users;
the sanity of main developers vs. other stuff, etc.  I think that
moving forward with 2.16 is the right thing to do.

- Graham

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Re: dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Carl Sorensen

On 3/9/12 12:57 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:

On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 07:51:20PM +, Graham Percival wrote:
 If somebody can make 10.4-x86 work, then it would be great to
 officially support it again in the future.  However, I think
 that's too far away; delaying 2.16.0 for that doesn't make sense.

oops, I should delay all emails by 5 minutes or something.

In case anybody thinks I'm being unfair to osx users: one of the
strongest reasons to move forward with 2.16 right now is so that
we can get a stable lilypond in the hands of 10.7 users.  Or, to
put it in my terms, to make those annoying 'why doesn't lilypond
run on 10.7?' people shut up.

This decision is a balance between 10.7 users vs. 10.4-x86 users;
the sanity of main developers vs. other stuff, etc.  I think that
moving forward with 2.16 is the right thing to do.

I totally agree.

There is no reason to add a separate download for lilypad on 10.4-x86.

Users of 10.4-x86 can upgrade software, or they can use any other text
editor to do lilypond work.  The only thing not working is the GUI app,
which isn't really necessary.

I was going to propose this exact solution.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re: dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:

 On 3/9/12 12:57 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:

On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 07:51:20PM +, Graham Percival wrote:
 If somebody can make 10.4-x86 work, then it would be great to
 officially support it again in the future.  However, I think
 that's too far away; delaying 2.16.0 for that doesn't make sense.

oops, I should delay all emails by 5 minutes or something.

In case anybody thinks I'm being unfair to osx users: one of the
strongest reasons to move forward with 2.16 right now is so that
we can get a stable lilypond in the hands of 10.7 users.  Or, to
put it in my terms, to make those annoying 'why doesn't lilypond
run on 10.7?' people shut up.

This decision is a balance between 10.7 users vs. 10.4-x86 users;
the sanity of main developers vs. other stuff, etc.  I think that
moving forward with 2.16 is the right thing to do.

 I totally agree.

 There is no reason to add a separate download for lilypad on 10.4-x86.

 Users of 10.4-x86 can upgrade software, or they can use any other text
 editor to do lilypond work.  The only thing not working is the GUI app,
 which isn't really necessary.

+1

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Re: dropping support for osx 10.4 x86

2012-03-09 Thread Colin Hall
On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 10:07:55PM +0100, Janek Warcho wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote:
 
  On 3/9/12 12:57 PM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote:
 
 On Fri, Mar 09, 2012 at 07:51:20PM +, Graham Percival wrote:
  If somebody can make 10.4-x86 work, then it would be great to
  officially support it again in the future.  However, I think
  that's too far away; delaying 2.16.0 for that doesn't make sense.
 
 oops, I should delay all emails by 5 minutes or something.
 
 In case anybody thinks I'm being unfair to osx users: one of the
 strongest reasons to move forward with 2.16 right now is so that
 we can get a stable lilypond in the hands of 10.7 users.  Or, to
 put it in my terms, to make those annoying 'why doesn't lilypond
 run on 10.7?' people shut up.
 
 This decision is a balance between 10.7 users vs. 10.4-x86 users;
 the sanity of main developers vs. other stuff, etc.  I think that
 moving forward with 2.16 is the right thing to do.
 
  I totally agree.
 
  There is no reason to add a separate download for lilypad on 10.4-x86.
 
  Users of 10.4-x86 can upgrade software, or they can use any other text
  editor to do lilypond work.  The only thing not working is the GUI app,
  which isn't really necessary.
 
 +1

Agreed.

-- 

Colin Hall

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