date:20090102

Dear LilyPond Frogs,

Thanks for the great response!  We have eight new Frogs, who are willing to
work on making improvements to LilyPond.  I think that's great!

I've attached a file README-contrib.txt, which is an attempt at what one of
you described as "Frogging for Dummies".  It gives at least a brief
introduction to the key issues that I remember as obstacles when I got
started with LilyPond development.

Your first task is to fix up the documentation strings for the predefined
LilyPond functions defined in appendix B.14 of the Notation Reference.  Each
of these is a Scheme function found somewhere in the installed file tree.  I
won't tell you where it is, because trying to find things is an essential
skill for Frogs.  But if you have troubles finding things, be sure to drop
me an email, and I'll be happy to help you find them.  I'm trying to teach
you to fish (or maybe I should say "fly", as in the bug, not flapping
wings), rather than giving you a fish.  But I don't want you to get
frustrated, so please ask for help.

When you're done with this task, each function for which you are responsible
should have an internationalizable docstring.  By internationalizable, I
mean that it will look like (_i "This is the docstring."), rather than "This
is the docstring."  Because we are adding internationalizable docstrings,
you'll need to check even the functions that have docstrings.

There are 64 predefined functions identified in appendix B.14, and 8 of you
new Frogs.  So you'll each be responsible for 8 functions.  The assignments
are as follows:

Andrew H:  acciaccatura through applyMusic.
Andrew W:  applyOutput through bar.
Frederic (Sorry, I don't know how to type the accents):
   barNumberCheck through endSpanners
Hajo:  featherDurations through makeClusters
Ian:  musicMap through pageBreak
Josh:  pageTurn through quoteDuring
Kieren:  removeWithTag through storePredefinedDiagram
Marek:  tag through withMusicProperty

I'm sure that some of you will say "How can I document a function when I
don't know what it does?"  Good question.  My first answer is that you
search in the Notation Reference and the Learning Manual to see where the
function is used.  That should give you enough of an idea to add the
docstrings.  It will also give you examples that will allow you to test
the function to make sure it still works after you've made the changes.

As you're looking at the existing docstrings, you'll see that there's a wide
variation in the amount of information in them.  While we don't want to get
too long in the docstrings, if the docstring is so cryptic it doesn't make
any sense, you may want to embellish it a little bit.

Have fun with this assignment, and please get back to me with any questions
you have.  When you do, please reply to all of the Frogs, so we can all see
how one another is doing, and learn from each other.  But don't include the
lilypond-user in your reply; I just wanted to get one more announcement out
there.  And don't copy Graham, I just wanted to give him a copy of
README-contrib.

Thanks,

Carl




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Re: LilyPondTool-2.12-r1 for download

2009-01-02 Thread Valentin Villenave

2009/1/2 Bertalan Fodor :
> It overrides to make sure that a good encoding is used. It will not override 
> utf8 in the next release.
> Regarding line ending i don't override. So there must be some other cause.

Yes, actually that was the windows version of Git :-)

Cheers,
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RE: Writing above a bar

2009-01-02 Thread Nick Payne

This is what I do at the start of a piece to move a string tuning indication
down and left to underneath the clef symbol:

\once \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'( -7.5 . 2.5 )
a8_\markup {\circle {6}=D} e'4 e e8

You could do the same in reverse. eg:

\once \override TextScript #'extra-offset = #'( 7.5 . 0 )
a8 e'4 e e8^\markup {End} |

And play around with the offset values to get the correct position.

Nick

> -Original Message-
> From: lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org
> [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+nick.payne=internode.on@gnu.org] On
> Behalf Of Alberto Simões
> Sent: Saturday, 3 January 2009 08:10
> To: lilypond
> Subject: Writing above a bar
> 
> Hello
> 
> Is there any way to write above a \bar "||" ?
> 
> In this case the composer wrote a simple "End" that is ignorable.
> But if it is possible (and easy) to do, I'ld like to add it.



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Re: warning: barcheck failed at: -5/8... but... WHERE?

2009-01-02 Thread Graham Percival

On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 08:51:01PM +0100, Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> Arjan Bos wrote:
>> The "Known issues and warnings" about partial is worth a look too:  
>> 
>>  
>> 
> That particular formulation stems from a very old version of LilyPond.
> It might possibly have been true at that time, but for current
> LilyPond, I don't agree with what's written there. Also, if you
> look at the examples of repeats with upbeats at
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Long-repeats#Normal-repeats
> you can find examples where \partial is used in the middle of
> a score.

IIRC I added it within the past three years.  There was some bug
that had to do with \partial in the middle of the piece, but
Han-Wen's response was "then Don't Do That" and that \partials
should only be at the beginning.

Sorry I can't remember any other details.

Cheers,
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Re: Writing above a bar

2009-01-02 Thread James E. Bailey

You may also want to look at the section in text on writing text, if  
the text needs to be at the end of a line, or at the end of the piece.

Am 02.01.2009 um 23:34 schrieb Ole Schmidt:


maybe like this?


ole

%%

\version "2.12.0"

 \new Staff  {
\time 4/4

\key c \major
\clef treble
\relative c' {  
c4 d e f \mark\markup { End } \bar "||" s16
}

}


%
Am 02.01.2009 um 22:09 schrieb Alberto Simões:


Hello

Is there any way to write above a \bar "||" ?

In this case the composer wrote a simple "End" that is ignorable.
But if it is possible (and easy) to do, I'ld like to add it.

Thanks
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Re: text missing

2009-01-02 Thread James E. Bailey



Am 02.01.2009 um 23:46 schrieb Mats Bengtsson:


James E. Bailey wrote:

Apparently lilypond is a little too smart with delayed ties.

Is this perhaps even worth a bug report?


The one thing I've learned with lilypond is that I don't know what a  
bug is.



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Re: LilyPondTool-2.12-r1 for download

2009-01-02 Thread Bertalan Fodor




I don't know why LPT overrides user-defined encoding settings;
besides, I've just noticed that it also saves every file with \r\n
EOLs, whereas I need to use \n endings.
  

Also check Utitilites>Global options>General for the default line ending


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Re: text missing

2009-01-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson


James E. Bailey wrote:

Apparently lilypond is a little too smart with delayed ties.

Is this perhaps even worth a bug report?

  /Mats
You have a ~ in the first measure which isn't completed until the 
third measure. Get rid of it, and you should have what you want.

Am 02.01.2009 um 21:12 schrieb Nikolay Kirov:


Hi!

Can anybody answer me, why there is no text corresponding to the 
second bar ?


(text is in Bulgarian; folk music)

Nikolay Kirov


%{
TD_171_1_06
%}

\version "2.11.65"

\score {
\relative c'' {
 \tempo 4 = 192
  \time 7/16
 g8~( g16[ f)] f16.~\prall( e) | d4~( d16.[ c)] |  f8\noBeam g16([ 
a)] a8. |

 a8\noBeam a16([ g)] g16.\noBeam a |
 g8~( g16[ f]) f16.~\prall( e) | d8~( d\noBeam~ d16. c) | f8\noBeam
f16([ e)] d8.\noBeam |
  d8~ d d8.
 \bar "||"
}
\addlyrics { Ян- ка на ма- ма ду- ма- ше, ма- ри: -Я из- лез, ма- мо,
на- вън- ка }
%
\layout {
  indent = #0
  line-width = 190\mm
  ragged-right=##f
}
%
\midi {
\context {
\Score
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 192 4)
}
}
}

\header{
  opus = "ТД-171,1,6"
  tagline = ##f
}

\paper  {
 myStaffSize = #20
 #(define fonts
 (make-pango-font-tree "Times New Roman"
 "Nimbus Sans"
 "Luxi Mono"
 (/ myStaffSize 20)))
  }


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Re: Writing above a bar

2009-01-02 Thread Ole Schmidt


maybe like this?


ole

%%

\version "2.12.0"

 \new Staff  {
\time 4/4

\key c \major
\clef treble
\relative c' {  
c4 d e f \mark\markup { End } \bar "||" s16
}

}


%
Am 02.01.2009 um 22:09 schrieb Alberto Simões:


Hello

Is there any way to write above a \bar "||" ?

In this case the composer wrote a simple "End" that is ignorable.
But if it is possible (and easy) to do, I'ld like to add it.

Thanks
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Re: LilyPondTool-2.12-r1 for download

2009-01-02 Thread Bertalan Fodor

Thanks, I forgot about this possibility. Actually I usually use a single space 
as the tagline.
Could you put a bug tracker on http://sf.net/projects/lily4jedit?

Thanks,

Bert

> --- Original Message ---
> From: Mark Polesky 
> To: Bertalan Fodor , lilypond-user Mailinglist 
> 
> Sent: 09/01/02/, 21:53:01
> Subject: Re: LilyPondTool-2.12-r1 for download
> 
> Bert,
> 
> Setting the Tagline option to ##f in 
>  - Score Setup Wizard
>  - Use complete template
>  - Insert titling
> 
> incorrectly puts double-quotes around 
> the ##f in the header. So instead of
> a removed tagline, the string "##f" 
> appears at the bottom of the last page.
> 
> Not a big problem, just happy to help.
> - Mark
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 


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Re: Problem with site and documentation

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau

Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 21:15 +, Alberto Simões a écrit :
> Erm, it is working now. I sure I tried it various times (firefox3).

I cross fingers for you :-)


> Could somebody else correct the issue meanwhile, or am I getting mad?

We can't correct the error you may have encountered if you don't
- try to reproduce the problem and explain us the steps you did exactly,
- tell us the exact error message,
- tell us about your exact OS and web browser version.

Cheers,
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Re: Problem with site and documentation



John Mandereau wrote:
> Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 20:34 +, Alberto Simões a écrit :
>> But when following the link to documentation
>> http://lilypond.org/web/documentation
>> it fails.
> 
> What is your browser and which failure do you get exactly?  What's the
> error message ?
> 
> I can't reproduce any failure with this URL, it works for me.

Erm, it is working now. I sure I tried it various times (firefox3).
The error message was something like "Wrong page encoding". Can't really
remember it correctly.

Could somebody else correct the issue meanwhile, or am I getting mad?

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Re: Problem with site and documentation

2009-01-02 Thread John Mandereau

Le vendredi 02 janvier 2009 à 20:34 +, Alberto Simões a écrit :
> But when following the link to documentation
> http://lilypond.org/web/documentation
> it fails.

What is your browser and which failure do you get exactly?  What's the
error message ?

I can't reproduce any failure with this URL, it works for me.

Cheers,
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Writing above a bar

Hello

Is there any way to write above a \bar "||" ?

In this case the composer wrote a simple "End" that is ignorable.
But if it is possible (and easy) to do, I'ld like to add it.

Thanks
Alberto
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Re: LilyPondTool-2.12-r1 for download

2009-01-02 Thread Mark Polesky

Bert,

Setting the Tagline option to ##f in 
 - Score Setup Wizard
 - Use complete template
 - Insert titling

incorrectly puts double-quotes around 
the ##f in the header. So instead of
a removed tagline, the string "##f" 
appears at the bottom of the last page.

Not a big problem, just happy to help.
- Mark



  


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Re: quoteduring and hidenotes




On 1/2/09 12:47 PM, "Neil Thornock"  wrote:

> Hello all,
> I am writing a part in which I need to use \quoteDuring... but the part I'm
> quoting has \hideNotes in it which show up in the quoted destination.
> 
> What must I do to get the \hideNotes to work during the quote?  I can't see an
> obvious event to include in quotedEventTypes... I don't even know if that's
> the approach to take.
> 
> Any wisdom?

>From my quick review of the sources, it appears that my hunch is correct:
the quote function works on the stored music event tree.  And context
property settings are not part of the music event tree.

If you want to include the context settings in the music, I think you'll
need to include the input directly (i.e. by using it as a music variable,
maybe with tags), rather than using quoting.

Sorry I don't have better news.

Carl



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Problem with site and documentation

Hi

If you access lilypond website using: http://lilypond.org/web/
(without the usual www portion) it works alright.

But when following the link to documentation
http://lilypond.org/web/documentation
it fails.

But http://www.lilypond.org/web/documentation works.

I am apologist of URLs without www, but I let that to your criteria :)

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Re: warning: barcheck failed at: -5/8... but... WHERE?

Hello, Mats

Mats Bengtsson wrote:
> Arjan Bos wrote:
>> I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you. The \partial command
>> and the barchecks don't live well together.
> Could you please provide an example of such problems.

My sample is at http://eremita.di.uminho.pt/~ambs/piano+voz.ly

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Re: text missing

2009-01-02 Thread James E. Bailey

Apparently lilypond is a little too smart with delayed ties. You have  
a ~ in the first measure which isn't completed until the third  
measure. Get rid of it, and you should have what you want.

Am 02.01.2009 um 21:12 schrieb Nikolay Kirov:


Hi!

Can anybody answer me, why there is no text corresponding to the  
second bar ?


(text is in Bulgarian; folk music)

Nikolay Kirov


%{
TD_171_1_06
%}

\version "2.11.65"

\score {
\relative c'' {
 \tempo 4 = 192
  \time 7/16
 g8~( g16[ f)] f16.~\prall( e) | d4~( d16.[ c)] |  f8\noBeam g16 
([ a)] a8. |

 a8\noBeam a16([ g)] g16.\noBeam a |
 g8~( g16[ f]) f16.~\prall( e) | d8~( d\noBeam~ d16. c) | f8\noBeam
f16([ e)] d8.\noBeam |
  d8~ d d8.
 \bar "||"
}
\addlyrics { Ян- ка на ма- ма ду- ма- ше, ма-  
ри: -Я из- лез, ма- мо,

на- вън- ка }
%
\layout {
  indent = #0
  line-width = 190\mm
  ragged-right=##f
}
%
\midi {
\context {
\Score
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 192 4)
}
}
}

\header{
  opus = "ТД-171,1,6"
  tagline = ##f
}

\paper  {
 myStaffSize = #20
 #(define fonts
 (make-pango-font-tree "Times New Roman"
 "Nimbus Sans"
 "Luxi Mono"
 (/ myStaffSize 20)))
  }


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RE: Move slur for acciaccatura

2009-01-02 Thread Nick Payne

> -Original Message-
> From: Mats Bengtsson [mailto:mats.bengts...@ee.kth.se]
> Sent: Saturday, 3 January 2009 07:16
> To: Nick Payne
> Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Move slur for acciaccatura
> 
> Nick Payne wrote:
> > The slurs on the acciaccaturas in my score are all defaulting to
> above the
> > stems of the grace notes, even when the grace notes are on or above
> the
> > middle of the stave and their stems are up. How can I move the slurs
> to
> > appear beneath. I tried using
> >
> > \once \override PhrasingSlur #'direction = #DOWN
> > \acciaccatura { d16[ e16] } d8 c\> d2\! ~
> You have already received useful answers, but nobody has
> explained why your attempt didn't work. If you had replaced
> PhrasingSlur with Slur, it should work as you had expected.
> What made you think that the slur of the acciaccatura was
> a phrasing slur?
> 
Thanks, It was a snippet I found in the LSR that made me try PhrasingSlur. I
can't remember the snippet name and until the search function in LSR
recovers I can't find it again, as search doesn't seem to be working at the
moment.

But anyway, I solved (sidestepped?) the problem by using the << { } \\ { }
>> construct to create the 2nd voice only where needed, rather than having
an explicit voiceTwo all the way through the piece with lots of s notes.

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Re: text missing


Hi Nikolay,

There are two places where you have ~ symbols tying together notes that 
are not the same, something that doesn't work.  When I removed those ~ 
symbols it put the text in what I think is the correct place.  I can't 
say for sure since I have no idea what the text is saying :)


Try changing this:

f16.~\prall( e)

to this:

f16.\prall( e)

Hopefully that's what you want.  Best,

Jon

Nikolay Kirov wrote:

Hi!

Can anybody answer me, why there is no text corresponding to the second bar ?

(text is in Bulgarian; folk music)

Nikolay Kirov


%{
TD_171_1_06
%}

\version "2.11.65"

\score {
\relative c'' {
 \tempo 4 = 192
  \time 7/16
 g8~( g16[ f)] f16.~\prall( e) | d4~( d16.[ c)] |  f8\noBeam g16([ a)] a8. |
 a8\noBeam a16([ g)] g16.\noBeam a |
 g8~( g16[ f]) f16.~\prall( e) | d8~( d\noBeam~ d16. c) | f8\noBeam
f16([ e)] d8.\noBeam |
  d8~ d d8.
 \bar "||"
}
\addlyrics { Ян- ка на ма- ма ду- ма- ше, ма- ри: -Я из- лез, ма- мо,
на- вън- ка }
%
\layout {
  indent = #0
  line-width = 190\mm
  ragged-right=##f
}
%
\midi {
\context {
\Score
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 192 4)
}
}
}

\header{
  opus = "ТД-171,1,6"
  tagline = ##f
}

\paper  {
 myStaffSize = #20
 #(define fonts
 (make-pango-font-tree "Times New Roman"
 "Nimbus Sans"
 "Luxi Mono"
 (/ myStaffSize 20)))
  }





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ANN: Frescobaldi 0.7.1 has been released.

2009-01-02 Thread Wilbert Berendsen

Hi all, Frescobaldi 0.7.1 has been released.
Get it at http://lilykde.googlecode.com/files/frescobaldi-0.7.1.tar.gz

Changes in 0.7.1:
* Settings dialog
* Show Path in window title option
* Tools save their settings
* Tool Views submenu in Settings menu
* Fix handling of filenames containing non-ascii characters
* Misc other fixes and improvements

About:
Frescobaldi (www.frescobaldi.org) is a LilyPond music score editor for KDE4, 
with following features:
* Enter LilyPond scores, build and preview them with a mouseclick
* Point-and-click support: click on notes or error messages to jump to the
  correct position
* A powerful Score Wizard to quickly setup a musical score
* Editing tools to:
  - manipulate the rhythm
  - hyphenate lyrics
  - quickly enter or add articulations and other symbols to existing music
  - run the document through convert-ly to update it to a newer LilyPond
version
* A powerful Rumor plugin, using the Rumor program to quickly enter music by
  playing it on a MIDI keyboard or even your computer keyboard

Frescobaldi is the KDE4 successor of LilyKDE, which is a Kate plugin for KDE3.
Frescobaldi is developed at http://lilykde.googlecode.com/.

Enjoy and happy new year!!
Wilbert Berendsen

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Re: Move slur for acciaccatura

2009-01-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson


Nick Payne wrote:

The slurs on the acciaccaturas in my score are all defaulting to above the
stems of the grace notes, even when the grace notes are on or above the
middle of the stave and their stems are up. How can I move the slurs to
appear beneath. I tried using

\once \override PhrasingSlur #'direction = #DOWN
\acciaccatura { d16[ e16] } d8 c\> d2\! ~

You have already received useful answers, but nobody has
explained why your attempt didn't work. If you had replaced
PhrasingSlur with Slur, it should work as you had expected.
What made you think that the slur of the acciaccatura was
a phrasing slur?

  /Mats


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text missing

2009-01-02 Thread Nikolay Kirov

Hi!

Can anybody answer me, why there is no text corresponding to the second bar ?

(text is in Bulgarian; folk music)

Nikolay Kirov


%{
TD_171_1_06
%}

\version "2.11.65"

\score {
\relative c'' {
 \tempo 4 = 192
  \time 7/16
 g8~( g16[ f)] f16.~\prall( e) | d4~( d16.[ c)] |  f8\noBeam g16([ a)] a8. |
 a8\noBeam a16([ g)] g16.\noBeam a |
 g8~( g16[ f]) f16.~\prall( e) | d8~( d\noBeam~ d16. c) | f8\noBeam
f16([ e)] d8.\noBeam |
  d8~ d d8.
 \bar "||"
}
\addlyrics { Ян- ка на ма- ма ду- ма- ше, ма- ри: -Я из- лез, ма- мо,
на- вън- ка }
%
\layout {
  indent = #0
  line-width = 190\mm
  ragged-right=##f
}
%
\midi {
\context {
\Score
tempoWholesPerMinute = #(ly:make-moment 192 4)
}
}
}

\header{
  opus = "ТД-171,1,6"
  tagline = ##f
}

\paper  {
 myStaffSize = #20
 #(define fonts
 (make-pango-font-tree "Times New Roman"
 "Nimbus Sans"
 "Luxi Mono"
 (/ myStaffSize 20)))
  }


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Re: warning: barcheck failed at: -5/8... but... WHERE?

2009-01-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson


Arjan Bos wrote:
I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you. The \partial command 
and the barchecks don't live well together.

Could you please provide an example of such problems.


The "Known issues and warnings" about partial is worth a look too: 
 


That particular formulation stems from a very old version of LilyPond.
It might possibly have been true at that time, but for current
LilyPond, I don't agree with what's written there. Also, if you
look at the examples of repeats with upbeats at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Long-repeats#Normal-repeats
you can find examples where \partial is used in the middle of
a score.

  /Mats


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quoteduring and hidenotes

2009-01-02 Thread Neil Thornock

Hello all,
I am writing a part in which I need to use \quoteDuring... but the part I'm
quoting has \hideNotes in it which show up in the quoted destination.

What must I do to get the \hideNotes to work during the quote?  I can't see
an obvious event to include in quotedEventTypes... I don't even know if
that's the approach to take.

Any wisdom?

Thanks,
Neil

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Composition/Theory
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Re: percussion staff rest positions?

2009-01-02 Thread corallina

greetings;

Thank you
I tried it this morning and it works


On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:45 AM, Ole Schmidt  wrote:
> if you want to use the \rest-feature you have to switch to \notemode first:
>
> bd4 \notemode {c4 \rest}
>
> hth
>
> ole
>
>
> Am 01.01.2009 um 00:38 schrieb corallina:
>
>> I have been using the  c4\rest   method when I need to position a rest on
>> at a particular location
>>
>> when I tried it  on the percussion staff it gives an error.  I tried
>> something like this   bd4\rest.
>> Also I should mention that I am using a custom percussion stave so I
>> would like all rests to line up with the notes of the percussion
>> instrument
>> if possible!
>>
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Re: LilyPondTool-2.12-r1 for download

2009-01-02 Thread Bertalan Fodor

It overrides to make sure that a good encoding is used. It will not override 
utf8 in the next release. 
Regarding line ending i don't override. So there must be some other cause.

  Original message  
From: Valentin Villenave 
Sent: 2 Jan 2009 10:37 -08:00
To: Bertalan Fodor 
Cc: Stan Sanderson , lilypond-user Mailinglist 

Subject: Re: LilyPondTool-2.12-r1 for download

>> On Dec 31, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Valentin Villenave wrote:
>>
>>> By the way, I noticed that too: whilst I always save all my files in
>>> UTF-8, LPT tries to override that and specifies UTF-8Y instead. When I
>>> relaunch jEdit afterwards, it says : "I/O error: the file could not be
>>> loaded correctly (some data might be lost) with encoding UTF-8Y.
>>> (java.nio.charset.MalformedInputException: input length = 0)"

2008/12/31 Bertalan Fodor :
> Yes, it's my fault.

I don't know why LPT overrides user-defined encoding settings;
besides, I've just noticed that it also saves every file with \r\n
EOLs, whereas I need to use \n endings.

About the memory problem: I'll do some benchmarking when I have more time.

Cheers,
Valentin

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Re: LilyPondTool-2.12-r1 for download

2009-01-02 Thread Valentin Villenave

>> On Dec 31, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Valentin Villenave wrote:
>>
>>> By the way, I noticed that too: whilst I always save all my files in
>>> UTF-8, LPT tries to override that and specifies UTF-8Y instead. When I
>>> relaunch jEdit afterwards, it says : "I/O error: the file could not be
>>> loaded correctly (some data might be lost) with encoding UTF-8Y.
>>> (java.nio.charset.MalformedInputException: input length = 0)"

2008/12/31 Bertalan Fodor :
> Yes, it's my fault.

I don't know why LPT overrides user-defined encoding settings;
besides, I've just noticed that it also saves every file with \r\n
EOLs, whereas I need to use \n endings.

About the memory problem: I'll do some benchmarking when I have more time.

Cheers,
Valentin


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Last call for new Frogs for this task

On 1/1/09 12:08 PM, "Carl D. Sorensen"  wrote:

> Dear LilyPond users,
> 
> You may have seen Graham's request for LilyPond Frogs, who will fix LilyPond
> bugs (trying to fix bugs at an average rate of one per month).
> 
> For some of you who are anticipating getting involved in bug-hunting, I have
> a simple task to get you involved in modifying the LilyPond source code.
> Although I could give this task to one person, I'd prefer to split it among
> half-a-dozen Frogs or so.

Thanks to the three new Frogs (or, as Ian Hulin called himself, Tadpoles)
who have responded:  Andrew Wilson, Marek Klein, and Ian Hulin.

Before I divide up the task among these three, I'd like to try once more to
recruit at least three more Frogs.

What's in it for you?  You'll get better at LilyPond, because you'll be
asked to do things that go beyond your current knowledge.  And not only is
that fun, but you'll increase your ability to engrave beautiful music with
LilyPond.

Plus, you'll have the opportunity to participate in email exchanges with me!
What could be better than that :-O ?

If you're sitting on the fence, jump in.  You'll be glad you did.

Carl

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Re: ANN: MIDI input plugin for jEdit

2009-01-02 Thread Andrew Hawryluk

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:45 AM, David Raleigh Arnold  
wrote:
> If the spelling is related to the key according to the "chromatic scale"
> in that key, there will be lots of time saved in nearly all instances.
> The chromatic scale in C is c cs d eb e f fs g gs a bb b c. It can
> easily be transposed for other keys. The idea of an "official"
> chromatic scale in each key has been resurrected. See wikipedia.
> Regards, daveA

Precisely. I chose
c cs d eb e f fs g af a bf b c
for C major, and changed the cs to df for C minor. This is the best
guess you can produce for individual MIDI notes.

More sophisticated analysis would require knowledge of all
simultaneous pitches from each voice, along with previous and
subsequent pitches in each voice, many of which would not have been
entered yet. E.g. a perfect system would spell an ascending chromatic
scale in sharps and a descending chromatic scale in flats.
Unfortunately, I think this would require the routine to predict the
future.

Andrew

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RE: warning: barcheck failed at: -5/8... but... WHERE?

2009-01-02 Thread Arjan Bos


On 1 jan 2009, at 22:22, Alberto Simões wrote:


Hello

I am having a strange error about barchecks.
Current version of the document is at
http://eremita.di.uminho.pt/~ambs/piano+voz.ly

If anyone can help, I would appreciate.
My output follows bellow.

Thank you
Alberto

--
GNU LilyPond 2.12.1
Processing `piano+voz.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music... [8]
piano+voz.ly:61:32: warning: barcheck failed at: -5/8
a4. a8 gis4 fis
  |


Alberto,
These errors are somehow caused by the \partial command. If I comment  
out all lines with \partial commands in them then I don't get any  
barcheck failures. And the -5/8 could be related to the \partial 8*5  
commands.
I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you. The \partial command  
and the barchecks don't live well together. If your score is ok, then  
forget about the barcheck failures.


The "Known issues and warnings" about partial is worth a look too: 


HTH,

Arjan



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Re: TAB question


Johan Vromans wrote:

Jonathan Kulp  writes:


Err...ordinary half-notes have stems, don't they?


I stand corrected.
(Phew, my first blooper of 2009...)



You got it out of the way early ;) Mine will be coming soon, I expect...

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Re: TAB question

2009-01-02 Thread Johan Vromans

Jonathan Kulp  writes:

> Err...ordinary half-notes have stems, don't they?

I stand corrected.
(Phew, my first blooper of 2009...)

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Re: TAB question

2009-01-02 Thread David Stocker

Hal Leonard, probably the largest single producer of TAB books uses a 
note staff and TAB staff combination. It's my opinion that this is the 
optimal way to display guitar music if you're using TAB because it's the 
most unambiguous: music information is clear to non-guitarists and 
fretboard position is clearly indicated which can be significant on 
fretboard instruments to achieve certain effects like campañella. The 
use of TAB avoids cluttering the note staff with too many bits of 
information (like left-hand fingerings in addition string number 
indications). If you're using a TAB staff with no note staff, I think 
the best way is to use stems on the fret-numbers to indicate rhythm. 
Dotted notes simply have a dot like on notes in a note staff and white 
notes are indicated by placing a circle around the 'notes'. It would be 
nice to see these features available in LilyPond.


If the developers are interested, I'm able to provide many examples of 
printed guitar tablature in various formats from various publishers (I 
spend my work life in this area). I've talked about it before on this 
list, but I'm interested working with other users to increase LilyPond 
support for fretted-instrument tablature. I'm not a programmer, so my 
contributions would be limited (at least at first) to consulting on 
appearance and placement of elements.


Dave

Johan Vromans wrote:

Ian Hulin  writes:

  

If you do this, how can the tab reader tell whether the notelength
is e2 or e1?



This question is not related to e2 having a stem or not...

I can imagine a stemless number with a circle arout it, or something
like that.

That's why my primary question is what the TAB standard is (are).

  

How do you tell anyway now whether it's e4 or e2?



e4 has a stem (just like an ordinary quarter note)
a2 should not have a stem (just like an ordinary half note)

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Re: Insert new pitches




On 1/2/09 6:10 AM, "lucifree"  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I wanted to add new pitches for percussion, eg : a second crash cymbal.
> So i copied the drumPitchNames  section from drumpitch-init.ly into my
> document, then added two new lines :
> 
> drumPitchNames =
> #'(
>(crashcymbalbis . crashcymbalbis)
>(cymk . crashcymbalbis)
>  
>   % then copied here all other lines
>.
> )
> 
> (I also have a section 'myDrums' as explained in doc to set all my note
> heads & positions.)
> 
> The question is : there is a syntaxic way to ADD my new pitch to the
> default drumPitchNames structure rather than COPY it all ?? (and so
> benefit of later modifications in distributed file, reduce/simplify my
> doc length, etc...)

Yes, you can do so.

drumPitchNames = 
#(append
 '(
(crashcymbalbis . crashcymbalbis)
(cymk . crashcymbalbis)
  )
  drumPitchNames
)

Note that the closing parentheses on lines by themselves don't match
standard Scheme practice.

Ordinarily, it would look more like this:
drumPitchNames = 
 #(append
 '(
(crashcymbalbis . crashcymbalbis)
(cymk . crashcymbalbis))
  drumPitchNames)

But either formatting should work.

HTH,

Carl



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Re: Insert new pitches

2009-01-02 Thread lucifree


Hi,

Well in fact, i already have a base .ly that i include in all my finals 
.ly . This is inside this common .ly that i have copied the 
drumPitchNames .


But still this doesn't seem for me very clean to have to do that. I'd 
like a way to add content to a definition structure rather than copy it. 
Maybe that's simply not possible to do this with the language used by 
lilypond.


L.




You can create your own "definitions.ly" file as described in the 
Learning Manual here:


http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Style-sheets#Style-sheets 



Then you just have to put \include "definitions.ly" at the top of your 
documents.


I like to put the definitions file in my $HOME directory because I 
found that if I put it in the directory with the other lilypond 
program files it kept getting deleted when I upgraded lilypond.  If 
you put it in the home directory, be sure to include the home 
directory in your lilypond command:


lilypond --include=$HOME filename.ly

This is the command on Linux anyway.  I don't recall which OS you're 
using.  You'll have to adjust if you're on Mac or Windows (actually I 
have no idea how to do this on Windows...)


Jon




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Re: midi keyboard input

2009-01-02 Thread Laura Conrad

> "Nicolas" == Nicolas Sceaux  writes:

Nicolas> Le 1 janv. 09 à 23:02, Laura Conrad a écrit :
>> It looks like there are rumor-based solutions that might be closer to
>> what I need.  I was hoping someone would say, "I'm entering notes into
>> emacs via keyboard, and here are the programs I use and the order in
>> which I start them."  But maybe nobody is entering notes into emacs
>> via a MIDI keyboard.

Nicolas> I used to do that: entering notes with my left hand on
Nicolas> the midi keyboard, and setting durations (and possibly
Nicolas> articulation) with my right hand, in an emacs buffer.

Nicolas> I was using the combination lyqi+rumor, on linux. I don't
Nicolas> know if it still working,
Nicolas> though.  

I tried it when I first had the keyboard, and don't remember what my
problems were.  When I have a new toy, I just try things until
something works. 

I tried it again a few days ago, and wasn't able to compile rumor for
my current system.  

Nicolas> But that won't solve your audio feedback problem. (My
Nicolas> keyboard was playing the notes, so I didn't care about
Nicolas> that.)

It isn't that hearing the notes is really that important, but I
thought it was something I should be able to do.  

I'm now thinking about whether my toy MIDI drum kit would do it, but the
problem is that the computer doesn't have a sound card.  Of course
there are old sound cards from former computers lying around, but I
really thought the USB stuff plus jack would do this.

-- 
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(617) 661-8097  233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139   

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the views which Cicero, which Locke, which Bacon, have given,
forgetful that Cicero, Locke and Bacon were only young men in
libraries when they wrote these books.

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Re: Insert new pitches

lucifree wrote:

Hi all,

I wanted to add new pitches for percussion, eg : a second crash cymbal.
So i copied the drumPitchNames section from drumpitch-init.ly into my
document, then added two new lines :

drumPitchNames =
#'(
(crashcymbalbis . crashcymbalbis)
(cymk . crashcymbalbis)

% then copied here all other lines

.
)

(I also have a section 'myDrums' as explained in doc to set all my note
heads & positions.)

The question is : there is a syntaxic way to ADD my new pitch to the
default drumPitchNames structure rather than COPY it all ?? (and so
benefit of later modifications in distributed file, reduce/simplify my
doc length, etc...)

Thanks,
L.

You can create your own "definitions.ly" file as described in the
Learning Manual here:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Style-sheets#Style-sheets

Then you just have to put \include "definitions.ly" at the top of your
documents.

I like to put the definitions file in my $HOME directory because I found
that if I put it in the directory with the other lilypond program files
it kept getting deleted when I upgraded lilypond. If you put it in the
home directory, be sure to include the home directory in your lilypond
command:

lilypond --include=$HOME filename.ly

This is the command on Linux anyway. I don't recall which OS you're
using. You'll have to adjust if you're on Mac or Windows (actually I
have no idea how to do this on Windows...)

Jon
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Re: TAB question