Re: printed page does not match the .pdf file

2009-02-07 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 07.02.2009 um 01:55 schrieb Anthony W. Youngman:

In message 5c547d22-490a-4ec7-a6d5-e5d8e8ec4...@gmail.com, Simon  
Bailey bina...@gmail.com writes

chip,

On Feb 6, 2009, at 12:08 AM, Chip wrote:
When I view my file as .pdf it shows the very small margins all  
the way around the page. When I print the .pdf using jpedal I get  
what appears to be 1 margins left and right and bottom, and  
about 2 from the top of the page to the top of the title. What  
do I have to do to get the page to print just like the .pdf? I am  
using jedit/ jpedal on XP. Below is my code for this particular  
page.


most pdf viewers or printer dialogues have an option scale page  
to fit printer margins or something similar. i've run into this  
issue before when i've forgotten to ensure that the printer  
doesn't scale the printout.


technical reasoning behind this option is that a lot of pdfs have  
content all the way to the edge of the page and this content would  
otherwise be cut off in the printout, so by default, the printer  
driver will scale a pdf down to fit the printer margins.


So how do you get it to print properly if you DON'T want it to  
shrink to fit? (ime, it then prints the page, full size, but  
offset down and left by the printer margin!)


I've found it IMPOSSIBLE to get the pdf to print cleanly on a sheet  
of paper, full size, properly centred.


Cheers,
Wol


In Adobe Acrobat, I use no printer scaling, and automatically center.  
That gets it how it's supposed to be. At least for me.



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Re: Tremolo / tuplet

2009-02-07 Thread Zbyněk Burget

Solved by upgrade to lily 2.13.2

Thanks all


Zbyněk Burget napsal(a):

Hi,
I've small problem
I've following bar:

c4-. \times 2/3 { \repeat tremolo 3 c8 } c4-. \times 2/3 { \repeat 
tremolo 3 c8 }


so-called tremolo is in tuplet. But tuplet numbers are not printed.
Is any way to visible tuplet numbers?

My idea was some as  { c8-3 }, but tuplet numbers are italic and 
fingerings are bold :-(


Thanks, Zbynek


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Re: two rehearsal mark on one barline

2009-02-07 Thread Zbyněk Burget

Mats Bengtsson napsal(a):



James E. Bailey wrote:






Also, you can have a separate context for each mark, since only one 
mark can be in a voice at a time.


If you try your suggestion, I'm afraid you'll get disappointed. Since 
rehearsal marks are created
at the score level, it doesn't matter if the \mark commands are on the 
same Voice or not.




Hmmm...
Is some way to create following?:
on one barline fermata and default rehearsal mark
in case that this barline is at the end of line, fermata is printed at
the end of line and default rehearsal mark is printed at begining of new
line.

I impose piece for orchestra, and I generate parts and partiture from
common music definitions. And on part is aforementioned barline at the
end of line and on partiture in the middle :-(

Zbynek



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Re: two rehearsal mark on one barline

2009-02-07 Thread Kieren MacMillan

Hi Zbyněk,


Hmmm...
Is some way to create following?:
on one barline fermata and default rehearsal mark
in case that this barline is at the end of line, fermata is printed at
the end of line and default rehearsal mark is printed at begining  
of new

line.

I impose piece for orchestra, and I generate parts and partiture from
common music definitions. And on part is aforementioned barline at the
end of line and on partiture in the middle :-(


You can use \tag mechanism:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Different- 
editions-from-one-source#Different-editions-from-one-source


Hope this helps!
Kieren.

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Re: Tremolo / tuplet

2009-02-07 Thread M Watts

Zbyněk Burget wrote:

Solved by upgrade to lily 2.*13*.2

Thanks all 



We'll expect some great bugfixes and cool new features from you then! ;)


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Re: strange error message with tuplet

2009-02-07 Thread M Watts

Stefan Thomas wrote:

Dear lilypond-users,
when compiling one of my scores I get the following error message,
which I don't understand:

musik/musik_ab115.ly:63:16: warning: No tuplet to end
 s8\fp\  s\f\
\times 4/6 { s32*5\p\ s 32\!}  \pedtrem  s4...\ff
\startTextSpan s32 \stopTextSpan  }%lautleise 115-118
Why  there is no no tuplet to end?


Not sure what that's about -- with 2.12.2, running your line as a 
minimal example produces warnings that the crescendi are too short, but 
that's all.


Using visible notes, not spacer notes, produces  error-free output here:

c4\fp\  c\f\ \times 4/6 { c32*5\p\ c32\!} c4...\ff



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Re: My solution to rhythmic slashes and midi playback

2009-02-07 Thread M Watts

Brian wrote:

Hope this helps somebody, I've been trying to get a system going for my slashes
and finally found something that works!


Good candidate for the LSR.


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Re: two rehearsal mark on one barline

2009-02-07 Thread Zbyněk Burget

Kieren MacMillan napsal(a):

Hi Zbyněk,


Hmmm...
Is some way to create following?:
on one barline fermata and default rehearsal mark
in case that this barline is at the end of line, fermata is printed at
the end of line and default rehearsal mark is printed at begining of new
line.

I impose piece for orchestra, and I generate parts and partiture from
common music definitions. And on part is aforementioned barline at the
end of line and on partiture in the middle :-(


You can use \tag mechanism:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Different-editions-from-one-source#Different-editions-from-one-source 




Tags seems a feasible solution...

...but how make fermata on barline at the end of line and default
rehearsal mark on some barline at beginning of new line?

Zbynek



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compiling error at the installation stage

2009-02-07 Thread Mehmet Nur Olcay
Hi all,

Trying to compile lilypond 2.12 from source but getting an error nearly at the
end of compiling, any idea/suggestion pls?

Here is the output: http://pastebin.com/m3e8e359c



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auto cross stave piano notes

2009-02-07 Thread Rob Canning

hello,

i have a string of notes for piano (one voice) spanning 5octaves that 
needs dividing between the two staves


is there a way to set a threshold pitch and say any pitch below that 
threshold will go to the bottom piano stave and anything above it will 
go to the top piano stave?


i can see how to do it manually on a note by note basis here:

http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=127

but i am imagining that this is something that can be automated, defined 
as \autocrossstave and turned on and off in a score as needed?


thanks

rob


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How to tie a note in a chord to a note outside a chord

2009-02-07 Thread Jayaratna

Dear subscribers,

I am inputting some very complicated polyphonic music for keyboard. Maybe
this is a newbie idiotic question, but I cannot understand how to input
these two bars: the problem is printing the tied A across the measures while
keeping the second one in the same chord with the upper C. This does not
seem to work:

  {\stemUp c2^~ c4}\\{\stemDown g4 \stemUp a4_~ a}


nor this:


  {\stemUp c2~}\\{\stemDown g4 a_~} c a4



http://www.nabble.com/file/p21889121/esempioee8.png 

Thanks for your suggestions,
Andrea
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Re: How to tie a note in a chord to a note outside a chord

2009-02-07 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 07.02.2009 um 15:50 schrieb Jayaratna:



Dear subscribers,

I am inputting some very complicated polyphonic music for keyboard.  
Maybe
this is a newbie idiotic question, but I cannot understand how to  
input
these two bars: the problem is printing the tied A across the  
measures while
keeping the second one in the same chord with the upper C. This  
does not

seem to work:

  {\stemUp c2^~ c4}\\{\stemDown g4 \stemUp a4_~ a}


nor this:


  {\stemUp c2~}\\{\stemDown g4 a_~} c a4



You'll want the section in the documentation on Explicitly  
instantiating voices. I don't remember if it's in the Learning Manual  
or Notation Reference, but exactly this issue is covered.



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Re: auto cross stave piano notes

2009-02-07 Thread Trevor Daniels

Rob

Have a look at Changing staff automatically in 
section 2.2.1 of the Notation Reference.  It describes
the \autochange command.  This has limitations (like 
the staff names are fixed and the switch point is 
always middle C), but it might help.


Trevor

- Original Message - 
From: Rob Canning robcann...@eircom.net

To: lilypond-user lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 2:51 PM
Subject: auto cross stave piano notes



hello,

i have a string of notes for piano (one voice) spanning 5octaves that 
needs dividing between the two staves


is there a way to set a threshold pitch and say any pitch below that 
threshold will go to the bottom piano stave and anything above it will 
go to the top piano stave?


i can see how to do it manually on a note by note basis here:

http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Snippet?id=127

but i am imagining that this is something that can be automated, defined 
as \autocrossstave and turned on and off in a score as needed?


thanks

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Re: How to tie a note in a chord to a note outside a chord

2009-02-07 Thread Jayaratna

Thank you, I think it's exactly what I needed!

A

James E. Bailey-3 wrote:
 
 
 Am 07.02.2009 um 15:50 schrieb Jayaratna:
 

 Dear subscribers,

 I am inputting some very complicated polyphonic music for keyboard.  
 Maybe
 this is a newbie idiotic question, but I cannot understand how to  
 input
 these two bars: the problem is printing the tied A across the  
 measures while
 keeping the second one in the same chord with the upper C. This  
 does not
 seem to work:

   {\stemUp c2^~ c4}\\{\stemDown g4 \stemUp a4_~ a}


 nor this:


   {\stemUp c2~}\\{\stemDown g4 a_~} c a4

 
 You'll want the section in the documentation on Explicitly  
 instantiating voices. I don't remember if it's in the Learning Manual  
 or Notation Reference, but exactly this issue is covered.
 
 
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Re: How to tie a note in a chord to a note outside a chord

2009-02-07 Thread Robin Bannister
Jayaratna wrote: 

This does not seem to work:
 {\stemUp c2^~ c4}\\{\stemDown g4 \stemUp a4_~ a}


Well, this looks like (part of) what you want! 
Or is it that you then don't see how to cope with the d2.? 

The manual mentions connecting ties across voices 
( Snippets / Rhythms / Making an object invisible with the transparent property)
but only deals with a simple case. 
Using that approach here probably involves a _third_ voice, 
which then needs some more tweaking to get things aligned. 

But do you know about tieWaitForNote? 
Try this: 
%%

twfon = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##t }
twfoff = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##f }
\relative c''

 {c4 g4 \twfon c4^~ a4_~ a c4 \twfoff g bes8 fis a8 g bes4 a c4}
\\ 
 {g8 f8 e8 f8 g4 s4 d2. e4 }




%%

This is quite readable. 
But if you insist on an exact match, 
replace the   c4^~   with   c2*1/2^~


Cheers,
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Re: How to tie a note in a chord to a note outside a chord

2009-02-07 Thread Jayaratna

Hi Robin,

in fact I just came back to the list because I still didn't know how to tie
that a: I'm trying your tieWaitForNote, which sounds like should work...

Thanks!!!
A


Robin Bannister wrote:
 
 Jayaratna wrote: 
 This does not seem to work:
  {\stemUp c2^~ c4}\\{\stemDown g4 \stemUp a4_~ a}
 
 Well, this looks like (part of) what you want! 
 Or is it that you then don't see how to cope with the d2.? 
 
 The manual mentions connecting ties across voices 
 ( Snippets / Rhythms / Making an object invisible with the transparent
 property)
 but only deals with a simple case. 
 Using that approach here probably involves a _third_ voice, 
 which then needs some more tweaking to get things aligned. 
 
 But do you know about tieWaitForNote? 
 Try this: 
 %%
 twfon = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##t }
 twfoff = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##f }
 \relative c''
 
   {c4 g4 \twfon c4^~ a4_~  4 \twfoff g bes8 fis a8 g bes4  4}
 \\ 
   {g8 f8 e8 f8 g4 s4 d2. e4 }
 
 
 %%
 
 This is quite readable. 
 But if you insist on an exact match, 
 replace the   c4^~   with   c2*1/2^~
 
 Cheers,
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Re: Good luck, Valentin

2009-02-07 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/2/5 Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com:

 In another concession to windows users like my students, I'd like to
 have a windows built-in version of main.ly (say winmain.ly) with the
 foo/ path style in the includes, and which they could process directly
 on their systems.

Johannes: thank you very much, FOSS world is just wonderful!

Paco: I'll correct main.ly by default (that being said, I remember
having been able to compile my score on Windows systems without
encountering the problem you're referring to).

(hint hint: look out for the upcoming Opera Actual issue, it will
contain a review of the opera :-)

Regards,
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Re: How to tie a note in a chord to a note outside a chord

2009-02-07 Thread James E. Bailey

Aside from the tie/stem collision, is this not what you wanted?
\version 2.12.2

\new Staff \relative c'' {  { \voiceOne c2~ c4 } \new Voice  
{ \voiceTwo g4 \voiceOne a_~ a }  }
inline: stems.png

Am 07.02.2009 um 17:21 schrieb Jayaratna:



Hi Robin,

in fact I just came back to the list because I still didn't know  
how to tie
that a: I'm trying your tieWaitForNote, which sounds like should  
work...


Thanks!!!
A


Robin Bannister wrote:


Jayaratna wrote:

This does not seem to work:
 {\stemUp c2^~ c4}\\{\stemDown g4 \stemUp a4_~ a}


Well, this looks like (part of) what you want!
Or is it that you then don't see how to cope with the d2.?

The manual mentions connecting ties across voices
( Snippets / Rhythms / Making an object invisible with the  
transparent

property)
but only deals with a simple case.
Using that approach here probably involves a _third_ voice,
which then needs some more tweaking to get things aligned.

But do you know about tieWaitForNote?
Try this:
%%
twfon = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##t }
twfoff = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##f }
\relative c''

  {c4 g4 \twfon c4^~ a4_~  4 \twfoff g bes8 fis a8 g bes4  4}
\\
  {g8 f8 e8 f8 g4 s4 d2. e4 }




%%

This is quite readable.
But if you insist on an exact match,
replace the   c4^~   with   c2*1/2^~

Cheers,
Robin


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Re: Problem with lyrics

2009-02-07 Thread James E. Bailey
in mm 123 of what I'm assuming is the second voice, there's a tie.  
That's probably preventing the lyric from appearing.


a 8 d' _~ d' 2 _~ r4


Am 07.02.2009 um 17:39 schrieb Lorenzo Bicci:


Hi everybody!
Here's the problem: when compiling the file below, no syllable gets  
assigned to the first note of the 5th bar of the second voice (see  
the PDF here: http://www.ntontopupu.com/prova.pdf). I tried with  
both versions 2.10 (on Linux) and 2.12 (on
Windows). Did i make any error in the .ly file or is this a bug? In  
case this is a bug, anyone can suggest me a workaround?

Thanks,

Lorenzo


% This LilyPond file was generated by Rosegarden 1.7.2
\version 2.10.0
% point and click debugging is disabled
#(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)
\header {
composer = Paolo Capoferri, Lorenzo Bicci
title = Casa mia
tagline =  
}
#(set-global-staff-size 16)
#(set-default-paper-size a4)
chExceptionMusic = { c e-\markup { \super 3} }
chExceptions = #(append (sequential-music-to-chord-exceptions
chExceptionMusic #t) ignatzekExceptions)
global = {
\time 4/4
}
globalTempo = {
\tempo 4 = 128
}
\score {
 % common

\context Staff = track 1 
\set Staff.instrumentName = \markup { \column { kapo  } }
\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f
\new Voice \global
\new Voice \globalTempo

\context Voice = voice 1 {
\override Voice.TextScript #'padding = #2.0
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
\clef treble_8
%% 120
e' 4 e' d' 8 c' _~ c' 4  |
f' 4 f' e' 8 d' _~ d' 4  |
e' 4 _~ e' 8 e' e' e' d' c'  |
d' 8 g' _~ g' 2 r4  |
e' 4 e' d' 8 c' _~ c' 4  |
%% 125
f' 4 f' e' 8 d' _~ d' 4  |
e' 8 e' d' c' d' d' c' b  |
c' 8 c' _~ c' 2 r4  |
\bar |.

} % Voice

 \lyricsto voice 1 \new Lyrics \lyricmode {
\override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER

Ca -- sa mi -- a ca -- sa mi -- a per pic -- ci -- na che tu si --  
a ca
-- sa mi -- a ca -- sa mi -- a tu mi sem -- bri~il Vil -- lag --  
gio Ba

-- di -- a.
} % Lyrics 1


% Staff ends


\context Staff = track 3 
\set Staff.instrumentName = \markup { \column { Giuliaok  
 } }

\set Score.skipBars = ##t
\set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f
\new Voice \global
\new Voice \globalTempo

\context Voice = voice 3 {
\override Voice.TextScript #'padding = #2.0
\override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1


\clef treble
%% 120
\clef treble_8
c' 4 c' a 8 g _~ g 4  |
c' 4 c' a 8 g _~ g 4  |
c' 4 _~ c' 8 c' c' c' a g  |
a 8 d' _~ d' 2 _~ r4  |
c' 4 c' a 8 g _~ g 4  |
%% 125
c' 4 c' a 8 g _~ g 4  |
c' 8 c' c' c' g g g g  |
c 8 c _~ c 2 r4  |
\bar |.
} % Voice

 \lyricsto voice 3 \new Lyrics \lyricmode {
\override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER

Ca -- sa mi -- a ca -- sa mi -- a per pic -- ci -- na che tu si --  
a ca
-- sa mi -- a ca -- sa mi -- a tu mi sem -- bri~il Vil -- lag --  
gio Ba

-- di -- a.
} % Lyrics 3


% Staff ends




% Staff (final) ends


\layout {
\context { \GrandStaff \accepts ChordNames }
}
} % score



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Re: How to tie a note in a chord to a note outside a chord

2009-02-07 Thread Jayaratna

Hi James,

what you suggests works very well, but if you add the d2. at the bottom
Lilypond says:





 warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns
{  { \voiceOne c'2~ 
  c4 } \new Voice { \voiceTwo g4 \voiceOne a_~ a } \\{s2
d,2.} }


%%




James E. Bailey-3 wrote:
 
 Aside from the tie/stem collision, is this not what you wanted?
 \version 2.12.2
 
 \new Staff \relative c'' {  { \voiceOne c2~ c4 } \new Voice  
 { \voiceTwo g4 \voiceOne a_~ a }  }
 
  
 
 Am 07.02.2009 um 17:21 schrieb Jayaratna:
 

 Hi Robin,

 in fact I just came back to the list because I still didn't know  
 how to tie
 that a: I'm trying your tieWaitForNote, which sounds like should  
 work...

 Thanks!!!
 A


 Robin Bannister wrote:

 Jayaratna wrote:
 This does not seem to work:
  {\stemUp c2^~ c4}\\{\stemDown g4 \stemUp a4_~ a}

 Well, this looks like (part of) what you want!
 Or is it that you then don't see how to cope with the d2.?

 The manual mentions connecting ties across voices
 ( Snippets / Rhythms / Making an object invisible with the  
 transparent
 property)
 but only deals with a simple case.
 Using that approach here probably involves a _third_ voice,
 which then needs some more tweaking to get things aligned.

 But do you know about tieWaitForNote?
 Try this:
 %%
 twfon = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##t }
 twfoff = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##f }
 \relative c''
 
   {c4 g4 \twfon c4^~ a4_~  4 \twfoff g bes8 fis a8 g bes4  4}
 \\
   {g8 f8 e8 f8 g4 s4 d2. e4 }


 %%

 This is quite readable.
 But if you insist on an exact match,
 replace the   c4^~   with   c2*1/2^~

 Cheers,
 Robin


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Re: songbook from Lily scores

2009-02-07 Thread Jack Cooper
For a songbook project I just completed, I've been
using Scribus and Gimp to manage my songbook layout and
import the individual song pages as 300 dpi png files.
This worked reasonably well, although Scribus takes a
bit of playing around with to figure out how to configure
a table of contents and other things.
   
  Jack


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 From: Francisco Vila paconet@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: songbook from Lily scores
 To: Zoltan Kota zolt...@gmail.com
 Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
 Received: Friday, February 6, 2009, 4:02 PM
 2009/2/6 Zoltan Kota zolt...@gmail.com:

  I have been using Lily for a year now, and I have
 several music scores
  as separate lily files. I would like to make a
 songbook including
  them, with cover page, table of contents, correct page
 numbering, etc.
  How should I start? What sectiones should I learn in
 documentation?
  Lilypond-book? Any useful info and tips are welcome!
 
 If your preferred system to produce documents is LaTex, go
 learn
 lilypond.-book. You'll have a TOC and page numbering.
 
 If all the scores span a single page maximum, inserting
 them as images
 could be an option for word processors.
 
 A third approach is to make multiple PDFs and pack  them
 together with
 Adobe Acrobat or a free tool. A coherent numbering and an
 automatic
 TOC would be much more difficult in this case.
 
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Re: Problem with lyrics

2009-02-07 Thread Lorenzo Bicci
Thanks a lot! It was just a little stupid error, but after hours working
on a lilypond file it can get hard to see it. :)
As always, the community shows a great support (and patience :P ).
Thanks a lot!

L.


Il giorno sab, 07/02/2009 alle 17.50 +0100, James E. Bailey ha scritto:
 in mm 123 of what I'm assuming is the second voice, there's a tie.  
 That's probably preventing the lyric from appearing.
 
 a 8 d' _~ d' 2 _~ r4
 
 
 Am 07.02.2009 um 17:39 schrieb Lorenzo Bicci:
 
  Hi everybody!
  Here's the problem: when compiling the file below, no syllable gets  
  assigned to the first note of the 5th bar of the second voice (see  
  the PDF here: http://www.ntontopupu.com/prova.pdf). I tried with  
  both versions 2.10 (on Linux) and 2.12 (on
  Windows). Did i make any error in the .ly file or is this a bug? In  
  case this is a bug, anyone can suggest me a workaround?
  Thanks,
 
  Lorenzo
 
 
  % This LilyPond file was generated by Rosegarden 1.7.2
  \version 2.10.0
  % point and click debugging is disabled
  #(ly:set-option 'point-and-click #f)
  \header {
  composer = Paolo Capoferri, Lorenzo Bicci
  title = Casa mia
  tagline =  
  }
  #(set-global-staff-size 16)
  #(set-default-paper-size a4)
  chExceptionMusic = { c e-\markup { \super 3} }
  chExceptions = #(append (sequential-music-to-chord-exceptions
  chExceptionMusic #t) ignatzekExceptions)
  global = {
  \time 4/4
  }
  globalTempo = {
  \tempo 4 = 128
  }
  \score {
   % common
 
  \context Staff = track 1 
  \set Staff.instrumentName = \markup { \column { kapo  } }
  \set Score.skipBars = ##t
  \set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f
  \new Voice \global
  \new Voice \globalTempo
 
  \context Voice = voice 1 {
  \override Voice.TextScript #'padding = #2.0
  \override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
  \clef treble_8
  %% 120
  e' 4 e' d' 8 c' _~ c' 4  |
  f' 4 f' e' 8 d' _~ d' 4  |
  e' 4 _~ e' 8 e' e' e' d' c'  |
  d' 8 g' _~ g' 2 r4  |
  e' 4 e' d' 8 c' _~ c' 4  |
  %% 125
  f' 4 f' e' 8 d' _~ d' 4  |
  e' 8 e' d' c' d' d' c' b  |
  c' 8 c' _~ c' 2 r4  |
  \bar |.
 
  } % Voice
 
   \lyricsto voice 1 \new Lyrics \lyricmode {
  \override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER
 
  Ca -- sa mi -- a ca -- sa mi -- a per pic -- ci -- na che tu si --  
  a ca
  -- sa mi -- a ca -- sa mi -- a tu mi sem -- bri~il Vil -- lag --  
  gio Ba
  -- di -- a.
  } % Lyrics 1
 
  % Staff ends
 
  \context Staff = track 3 
  \set Staff.instrumentName = \markup { \column { Giuliaok  
   } }
  \set Score.skipBars = ##t
  \set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f
  \new Voice \global
  \new Voice \globalTempo
 
  \context Voice = voice 3 {
  \override Voice.TextScript #'padding = #2.0
  \override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = 1
 
 
  \clef treble
  %% 120
  \clef treble_8
  c' 4 c' a 8 g _~ g 4  |
  c' 4 c' a 8 g _~ g 4  |
  c' 4 _~ c' 8 c' c' c' a g  |
  a 8 d' _~ d' 2 _~ r4  |
  c' 4 c' a 8 g _~ g 4  |
  %% 125
  c' 4 c' a 8 g _~ g 4  |
  c' 8 c' c' c' g g g g  |
  c 8 c _~ c 2 r4  |
  \bar |.
  } % Voice
 
   \lyricsto voice 3 \new Lyrics \lyricmode {
  \override LyricText #'self-alignment-X = #CENTER
 
  Ca -- sa mi -- a ca -- sa mi -- a per pic -- ci -- na che tu si --  
  a ca
  -- sa mi -- a ca -- sa mi -- a tu mi sem -- bri~il Vil -- lag --  
  gio Ba
  -- di -- a.
  } % Lyrics 3
 
  % Staff ends
 
 
  % Staff (final) ends
 
  \layout {
  \context { \GrandStaff \accepts ChordNames }
  }
  } % score
 
 
 
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Re: How to tie a note in a chord to a note outside a chord

2009-02-07 Thread James E. Bailey
That's true, it's because you're notating notes of different values  
at the same time. It happens without the third voice. You can turn  
the warning off.


Am 07.02.2009 um 17:53 schrieb Jayaratna:



Hi James,

what you suggests works very well, but if you add the d2. at the  
bottom

Lilypond says:





 warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns
{  { \voiceOne c'2~
  c4 } \new Voice { \voiceTwo g4 \voiceOne a_~  
a } \\{s2

d,2.} }


%%




James E. Bailey-3 wrote:


Aside from the tie/stem collision, is this not what you wanted?
\version 2.12.2

\new Staff \relative c'' {  { \voiceOne c2~ c4 } \new Voice
{ \voiceTwo g4 \voiceOne a_~ a }  }



Am 07.02.2009 um 17:21 schrieb Jayaratna:



Hi Robin,

in fact I just came back to the list because I still didn't know
how to tie
that a: I'm trying your tieWaitForNote, which sounds like should
work...

Thanks!!!
A


Robin Bannister wrote:


Jayaratna wrote:

This does not seem to work:
 {\stemUp c2^~ c4}\\{\stemDown g4 \stemUp a4_~ a}


Well, this looks like (part of) what you want!
Or is it that you then don't see how to cope with the d2.?

The manual mentions connecting ties across voices
( Snippets / Rhythms / Making an object invisible with the
transparent
property)
but only deals with a simple case.
Using that approach here probably involves a _third_ voice,
which then needs some more tweaking to get things aligned.

But do you know about tieWaitForNote?
Try this:
%%
twfon = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##t }
twfoff = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##f }
\relative c''

  {c4 g4 \twfon c4^~ a4_~  4 \twfoff g bes8 fis a8 g bes4  4}
\\
  {g8 f8 e8 f8 g4 s4 d2. e4 }




%%

This is quite readable.
But if you insist on an exact match,
replace the   c4^~   with   c2*1/2^~

Cheers,
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Re: printed page does not match the .pdf file

2009-02-07 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message cc3c7963-fb6c-4aa5-a7e2-5f6f63c86...@googlemail.com, James 
E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com writes


So how do you get it to print properly if you DON'T want it to 
shrink to fit? (ime, it then prints the page, full size, but 
offset down and left by the printer margin!)


I've found it IMPOSSIBLE to get the pdf to print cleanly on a sheet 
of paper, full size, properly centred.


Cheers,
Wol


In Adobe Acrobat, I use no printer scaling, and automatically center. 
That gets it how it's supposed to be. At least for me.


I'll have to try. But iirc this is exactly where I get the behaviour 
this page is to big to fit in the printable area. Place the top left 
corner of the pdf in the top left corner of the printable area and don't 
scale. So everything is off by the printer margin.


It's probably not helped by the fact that I have an A4 document, 
printing on an A4 printer, and Acrobat (the ONLY application to do it) 
insists the printer has American Letter paper.


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Re: How to tie a note in a chord to a note outside a chord

2009-02-07 Thread James E. Bailey

In fact, looking at the picture, I would probably notate that thus:
\version 2.12.2

RH = \relative c'' {
   
  {
 \voiceOne
 c4 g c2~ |
 c a4 g b8 fis a g b4 a c
  }\new Voice {
 \voiceTwo
 g8 f e f g4 s4 |
 d2. e4
  }\new Voice {
 \voiceOne
 s2. a4_~ |
 \hideNotes a4
  }
   
}

\score {
   \new Staff  \RH 
}

Am 07.02.2009 um 17:53 schrieb Jayaratna:



Hi James,

what you suggests works very well, but if you add the d2. at the  
bottom

Lilypond says:





 warning: ignoring too many clashing note columns
{  { \voiceOne c'2~
  c4 } \new Voice { \voiceTwo g4 \voiceOne a_~  
a } \\{s2

d,2.} }


%%




James E. Bailey-3 wrote:


Aside from the tie/stem collision, is this not what you wanted?
\version 2.12.2

\new Staff \relative c'' {  { \voiceOne c2~ c4 } \new Voice
{ \voiceTwo g4 \voiceOne a_~ a }  }



Am 07.02.2009 um 17:21 schrieb Jayaratna:



Hi Robin,

in fact I just came back to the list because I still didn't know
how to tie
that a: I'm trying your tieWaitForNote, which sounds like should
work...

Thanks!!!
A


Robin Bannister wrote:


Jayaratna wrote:

This does not seem to work:
 {\stemUp c2^~ c4}\\{\stemDown g4 \stemUp a4_~ a}


Well, this looks like (part of) what you want!
Or is it that you then don't see how to cope with the d2.?

The manual mentions connecting ties across voices
( Snippets / Rhythms / Making an object invisible with the
transparent
property)
but only deals with a simple case.
Using that approach here probably involves a _third_ voice,
which then needs some more tweaking to get things aligned.

But do you know about tieWaitForNote?
Try this:
%%
twfon = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##t }
twfoff = { \set tieWaitForNote = ##f }
\relative c''

  {c4 g4 \twfon c4^~ a4_~  4 \twfoff g bes8 fis a8 g bes4  4}
\\
  {g8 f8 e8 f8 g4 s4 d2. e4 }




%%

This is quite readable.
But if you insist on an exact match,
replace the   c4^~   with   c2*1/2^~

Cheers,
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Re: printed page does not match the .pdf file

2009-02-07 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 07.02.2009 um 18:53 schrieb Anthony W. Youngman:


It's probably not helped by the fact that I have an A4 document,  
printing on an A4 printer, and Acrobat (the ONLY application to do  
it) insists the printer has American Letter paper.


Ah, that's the problem. You need to make sure that acrobat  
understands that you're printing on A4 paper. There should be a print  
options, or perhaps in the printer settings from the print dialogue.  
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Re: compiling error at the installation stage

2009-02-07 Thread mehmet nur olcay
On Saturday 07 February 2009 15:35:35 Mehmet Nur Olcay wrote:
 Hi all,

 Trying to compile lilypond 2.12 from source but getting an error nearly at
 the end of compiling, any idea/suggestion pls?

 Here is the output: http://pastebin.com/m3e8e359c


Ping ? Any idea about this error or any information needed ?
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Re: printed page does not match the .pdf file

2009-02-07 Thread Jonathan Kulp

James E. Bailey wrote:


Am 07.02.2009 um 18:53 schrieb Anthony W. Youngman:


It's probably not helped by the fact that I have an A4 document, 
printing on an A4 printer, and Acrobat (the ONLY application to do it) 
insists the printer has American Letter paper.


Ah, that's the problem. You need to make sure that acrobat understands 
that you're printing on A4 paper. There should be a print options, or 
perhaps in the printer settings from the print dialogue. But that bit of 
information is vital to getting proper output.


On Linux this is in the print dialog box under Properties.  I believe 
it's different on a Mac and I have no idea about Windows.


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Re: printed page does not match the .pdf file

2009-02-07 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 50b55f67-a1ed-4f05-96bd-82b00b260...@googlemail.com, James 
E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com writes


Am 07.02.2009 um 18:53 schrieb Anthony W. Youngman:


It's probably not helped by the fact that I have an A4 document, 
printing on an A4 printer, and Acrobat (the ONLY application to do 
it) insists the printer has American Letter paper.


Ah, that's the problem. You need to make sure that acrobat  understands 
that you're printing on A4 paper. There should be a print  options, or 
perhaps in the printer settings from the print dialogue.  But that bit 
of information is vital to getting proper output.


And there's the problem. The only place I know of to tell Acrobat what 
size paper is in the printer, is in the printer settings. And the 
printer is set to A4. As I said, so is the document. But Acrobat says 
American Letter.


I just don't know where or why Acrobat is finding this American Letter 
stuff (oh - I've got a Hickey Pouse WinPrinter - a laserjet 1000 series. 
Maybe that's why :-(


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Re: controlling the alignment of FretBoards

2009-02-07 Thread Carl D. Sorensen



On 2/6/09 4:31 PM, -Eluze elu...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 
 Robin Bannister wrote:
 
 
 The current (2.12.2) online NR 2.4.1 at line 782 has
 neither the first fret nor the fingering aligned.
 It looks prrety much like your align_chordmode.png.
 
 If I run the 782 snippet with my 2.12.1, it is aligned.
 
 so it looks like a little change between both versions - i checked the pdf
 (2.12.1) again, where it is aligned!
 
 
 The F chord has no open/mute indications, so maybe it is less constrained
 vertically.
 that's what i supposed, too.
 
 
 \override FretBoard #'stencil =
#(lambda (grob) (box-stencil (fret-board::calc-stencil grob ) 0 0))
 
 thanks for this nice little function!
 -Eluze


This is not expected behavior.  I'm not sure yet why it's working that way.
I suspect it's because the fretboards are being vertically centered, and now
(unlike in previous versions) the extent of the fretboards is strictly
correct.  It's a case where doing things right caused an unintended side
effect.

Please file a bug report on bug-lilypond, as I won't be able to get to this
for a while; perhaps two or three weeks.

Thanks,

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long text in composer / invisible TimeSignature

2009-02-07 Thread Zbyněk Burget

Hi,
I've two new problems.

1. How I can write long text to composer to header?
2. Why don't hide TimeSignature?

Zbynek



\version 2.12.2

\header{
  composer = Some long text. Long, long, long, long, long, long, long, 
long, long.

}

\score {
  \new Staff {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'break-visibility = #all-invisible
\relative g'{ \cadenzaOn g4 g g g g g g g g g \bar |. }
  }
}


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Re: controlling the alignment of FretBoards

2009-02-07 Thread Robin Bannister

Carl D. Sorensen wrote:

Please file a bug report


Already started, now done. 
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2009-02/msg00014.html ?


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Re: printed page does not match the .pdf file

2009-02-07 Thread Daniel Hulme
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 06:34:35PM +, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
 I just don't know where or why Acrobat is finding this American Letter  
 stuff (oh - I've got a Hickey Pouse WinPrinter - a laserjet 1000 series.  
 Maybe that's why :-(

Maybe, but I've heard of other people having the same problem with
Acrobat 8. If you're still on 8, perhaps upgrading to 9 will fix it. I
don't know of any workarounds.

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chord naming question

2009-02-07 Thread James E. Bailey
I'm going to be engraving some more music with chords, and thanks to  
last time, I have appropriate templates that will work. But, one  
problem that is inconsistent is the placement of the flat symbol.


I have to use a modified semi-german chord naming method because the  
person I'm engraving for likes Bb (with the flat symbol), and H for B  
natural. I notice that in my modified chord init template, with \set  
chordRootNamer = #(chord-name-german-markup #f) I get that, but the  
flat symbol is engraved as a superscript,  and the default has Bb  
with the flat symbol inline with the B. I would gladly modify it  
myself, but I don't really know where to look for how that's  
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Re: printed page does not match the .pdf file

2009-02-07 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 20090207193803.ga2...@istic.org, Daniel Hulme 
s...@istic.org writes

On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 06:34:35PM +, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:

I just don't know where or why Acrobat is finding this American Letter
stuff (oh - I've got a Hickey Pouse WinPrinter - a laserjet 1000 series.
Maybe that's why :-(


Maybe, but I've heard of other people having the same problem with
Acrobat 8. If you're still on 8, perhaps upgrading to 9 will fix it. I
don't know of any workarounds.

Actually, I'm on Acrobat 5 (and no, upgrading to 9 is not an option). I 
could try 9 Reader, but I find its incessant desire to talk to the 
internet a real pain (and at work its habit of trying to upgrade itself 
regularly breaks other programs that use pdf controls :-(


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piano notation element

2009-02-07 Thread Antanas Budriūnas
Hello,

in piano scores when a particular note (chord) in the upper staff
should be played with the left hand, a bracket of inverted L shape
is placed before that note.
I believe it is either in LP documentation or in Snippets, but
unfortunately I can't find it.
Could you point me please...

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Re: long text in composer / invisible TimeSignature

2009-02-07 Thread Marek Klein
Hi,

Concerning time signatur I have found two possibilities:
%%
\version 2.12.1

\score {
 \new Staff {
   \clef treble
   \key c \major
   \override Staff.TimeSignature #'break-visibility = #all-invisible
   \relative g'{ \cadenzaOn g4 g g g g g g g g g \bar |. }
 }
}
\score {
 \new Staff {
   \clef treble
   \key c \major
  \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f
   \relative g'{ \cadenzaOn g4 g g g g g g g g g \bar |. }
 }
}
\score {
 \new Staff {
   \clef treble
   \key c \major
   \relative g'{ \cadenzaOn g4 g g g g g g g g g \bar |. }
 }
  \layout {
\context {
  \Staff
  \remove Time_signature_engraver
}
  }
}

See also:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-big-page#Transcribing-Gregorian-chant



-- 
Marek Klein
http://gregoriana.sk



2009/2/7 Zbyněk Burget zbur...@burgnet.cz

 Hi,
 I've two new problems.

 1. How I can write long text to composer to header?
 2. Why don't hide TimeSignature?

 Zbynek



 \version 2.12.2

 \header{
  composer = Some long text. Long, long, long, long, long, long, long,
 long, long.
 }

 \score {
  \new Staff {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'break-visibility = #all-invisible
\relative g'{ \cadenzaOn g4 g g g g g g g g g \bar |. }
  }
 }


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Re: ignoring between-system-padding

2009-02-07 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM, M Watts zwy648...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tom Hall wrote:

 Hello List

 I have a generous between-system-padding = #6 for my score, but this gets
 overriden when the pdf is created, with the following message:

 warning: Can't fit systems on page -- ignoring between-system-padding

 Is there a way to maintain the system padding I want, at the expense of
 how many
 pages are required?

 6 what?  I think you have to specify the measurment, like
 between-system-padding = #6\in

This results in a compile error.  You can either set these variables
by using a scaling factor (between-system-padding = #6) or units
(between-system-padding = 6\in).

With Tom's setting, `between-system-padding = #6', the #6 is
equivalent to 6\mm, which is 2 millimeters more than the default
setting.

Tom, with regard to your question, I would suggest looking through
Notation Reference 4.1.2.  This section provides a comprehensive list
of variables that can be set.

-Patrick


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Re: printed page does not match the .pdf file

2009-02-07 Thread Brett Duncan

Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
In message 20090207193803.ga2...@istic.org, Daniel Hulme 
s...@istic.org writes

On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 06:34:35PM +, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:

I just don't know where or why Acrobat is finding this American Letter
stuff (oh - I've got a Hickey Pouse WinPrinter - a laserjet 1000 series.
Maybe that's why :-(


Maybe, but I've heard of other people having the same problem with
Acrobat 8. If you're still on 8, perhaps upgrading to 9 will fix it. I
don't know of any workarounds.

Actually, I'm on Acrobat 5 (and no, upgrading to 9 is not an option). I 
could try 9 Reader, but I find its incessant desire to talk to the 
internet a real pain (and at work its habit of trying to upgrade itself 
regularly breaks other programs that use pdf controls :-(


Cheers,
Wol


Have you considered trying Foxit Reader?


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Re: compiling error at the installation stage

2009-02-07 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 10:04 AM, mehmet nur olcay mnurol...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Saturday 07 February 2009 15:35:35 Mehmet Nur Olcay wrote:
 Hi all,

 Trying to compile lilypond 2.12 from source but getting an error nearly at
 the end of compiling, any idea/suggestion pls?

 Here is the output: http://pastebin.com/m3e8e359c


 Ping ? Any idea about this error or any information needed ?

I've never seen this error message before.  I'm guessing this might be
a Guile problem.  Could you post your ./configure output?

-Patrick


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Re: chord naming question

2009-02-07 Thread Carl D. Sorensen



On 2/7/09 1:27 PM, James E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I'm going to be engraving some more music with chords, and thanks to
 last time, I have appropriate templates that will work. But, one
 problem that is inconsistent is the placement of the flat symbol.
 
 I have to use a modified semi-german chord naming method because the
 person I'm engraving for likes Bb (with the flat symbol), and H for B
 natural. I notice that in my modified chord init template, with \set
 chordRootNamer = #(chord-name-german-markup #f) I get that, but the
 flat symbol is engraved as a superscript,  and the default has Bb
 with the flat symbol inline with the B. I would gladly modify it
 myself, but I don't really know where to look for how that's
 configured. Can someone point me in the right direction?
 
 
 

You modify the flat symbol in the file scm/chord-name.scm.

There is a function alteration-text-accidental-markup that sets the amount
the flat is raised.

You could redefine this command in your .ly file, and you'd eliminate the
raising, without having to modify the distribution file.

HTH,

Carl




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Re: controlling the alignment of FretBoards

2009-02-07 Thread Carl D. Sorensen



On 2/7/09 12:34 PM, Robin Bannister r...@dataway.ch wrote:

 Carl D. Sorensen wrote:
 Please file a bug report
 
 Already started, now done.
 http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2009-02/msg00014.html ?
 
 Cheers,
 Robin

Oops, after asking you to file a bug report I decided to take a quick look,
and it was an extremely quick fix.

The problem is now fixed in git.

You can fix it your 2.12.2 distribution by downloading the file
scm/fret-diagrams.scm from the git repository.

The git repository version of fret-diagrams.scm can be found at

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=blob;f=scm/fret-diagram
s.scm;

Right click on the link fret-diagrams.scm at the top of the page, and you
will be able to download the file.

Save a copy of your current version of scm/fret-diagrams.scm, then replace
the original with the file you downloaded.

Then retry your example, and I think you'll find that the fretboards all
line up.

HTH,

Carl



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Re: printed page does not match the .pdf file

2009-02-07 Thread Chip

Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
In message cc3c7963-fb6c-4aa5-a7e2-5f6f63c86...@googlemail.com, 
James E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com writes


So how do you get it to print properly if you DON'T want it to 
shrink to fit? (ime, it then prints the page, full size, but 
offset down and left by the printer margin!)


I've found it IMPOSSIBLE to get the pdf to print cleanly on a sheet 
of paper, full size, properly centred.


Cheers,
Wol


In Adobe Acrobat, I use no printer scaling, and automatically center. 
That gets it how it's supposed to be. At least for me.


That works for me as well. I did have to install Acrobat since I only 
used jpedal previously. Oh well, at least it prints correctly now.

--
Chip

I'll have to try. But iirc this is exactly where I get the behaviour 
this page is to big to fit in the printable area. Place the top left 
corner of the pdf in the top left corner of the printable area and 
don't scale. So everything is off by the printer margin.


It's probably not helped by the fact that I have an A4 document, 
printing on an A4 printer, and Acrobat (the ONLY application to do it) 
insists the printer has American Letter paper.


Cheers,
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Re: multimeasure rest with no number of measures?

2009-02-07 Thread Chip

Robin Bannister wrote:

Chipwrote:
 I want a multi-measure rest with no number on it. 


This gets rid of the number:
  mmrNoNum = \once \override MultiMeasureRestNumber #'stencil = ##f
as in:
  \mmrNoNum R1*16

Cheers,
Robin
Thanks, that's one I haven't seen in the NR or LM or Snippets. I placed 
this in my global overrides so it effects the entire page, which 
contains horn parts for 10 raggae songs (they're short parts).

Regards,
Chip


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Re: chord naming question

2009-02-07 Thread James E. Bailey


Am 07.02.2009 um 23:34 schrieb Carl D. Sorensen:





On 2/7/09 1:27 PM, James E. Bailey derhindem...@googlemail.com  
wrote:



I'm going to be engraving some more music with chords, and thanks to
last time, I have appropriate templates that will work. But, one
problem that is inconsistent is the placement of the flat symbol.

I have to use a modified semi-german chord naming method because the
person I'm engraving for likes Bb (with the flat symbol), and H for B
natural. I notice that in my modified chord init template, with \set
chordRootNamer = #(chord-name-german-markup #f) I get that, but the
flat symbol is engraved as a superscript,  and the default has Bb
with the flat symbol inline with the B. I would gladly modify it
myself, but I don't really know where to look for how that's
configured. Can someone point me in the right direction?





You modify the flat symbol in the file scm/chord-name.scm.

There is a function alteration-text-accidental-markup that sets  
the amount

the flat is raised.

You could redefine this command in your .ly file, and you'd  
eliminate the

raising, without having to modify the distribution file.

HTH,

Carl



Thanks, hopefully I'll figure it out from this!


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Re: piano notation element

2009-02-07 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/2/7 Antanas Budriūnas antan...@gmail.com:
 Hello,

 in piano scores when a particular note (chord) in the upper staff
 should be played with the left hand, a bracket of inverted L shape
 is placed before that note.
 I believe it is either in LP documentation or in Snippets, but
 unfortunately I can't find it.
 Could you point me please...

Possibly something like

LH = \markup { \postscript #0.2 setlinewidth 0 0 moveto -1 0 lineto 0
-5 rlineto stroke }

{  e''^\LH }

A good design would have taken into account the pitch instead of
having a fixed height, but I could be a starting point anyway.

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Starting lyrics on measure 4

2009-02-07 Thread Jonathan Klein
I am engraving a song which starts with three measures of instrumental before 
going into the first verse. How do I start the lyrics on measure 4?

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Re: compiling error at the installation stage

2009-02-07 Thread mehmet nur olcay
On Sunday 08 February 2009 00:04:07 you wrote:

 I've never seen this error message before.  I'm guessing this might be
 a Guile problem.  Could you post your ./configure output?


Hi, thanks for the reply. Here is the .configure output:

http://dpaste.com/117974/

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Re: Starting lyrics on measure 4

2009-02-07 Thread M Watts

Jonathan Klein wrote:
I am engraving a song which starts with three measures of 
instrumental before going into the first verse. How do I start the 
lyrics on measure 4?
 
Many ways to skin a cat -- if the vocal part is in a separate voice from 
the accompaniment, a simple \new Lyrics \lyricsto vocal or similar 
will just work.


Plenty of docs on lyrics:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-learning/Songs#Songs
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Vocal-music#Vocal-music 




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Re: songbook from Lily scores

2009-02-07 Thread Graham Breed

Zoltan Kota wrote:


I have been using Lily for a year now, and I have several music scores
as separate lily files. I would like to make a songbook including
them, with cover page, table of contents, correct page numbering, etc.
How should I start? What sectiones should I learn in documentation?
Lilypond-book? Any useful info and tips are welcome!


I've written one thing with Lilypond-book and I'm very happy 
with it.  It just works.  It is, for now and for me, the 
killer application for LilyPond over ABC.  You put your 
LilyPond code in there with your LaTeX markup and there's 
the LilyPond in the output.  I don't have any amazing 
anecdotes to report because all it does is exactly what you 
expect.  The main bug is that it doesn't recompile the music 
if an external dependency changes, so you need to delete the 
working files.


Of course, LaTeX has its own learning curve but the stuff 
you're talking about isn't that difficult.  Lilypond-book 
itself is very simple.


If you want my example, here it is:

http://x31eq.com/magic/tripod.pdf

And the source code, if you want that:

http://x31eq.com/magic/tripod-code.zip


Graham


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