Re: Tremolos between two whole notes

2012-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com writes:

 2012/2/4 Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com:
 Maybe the last time this was discussed
 was in a thread with Janek and his new tremolo styles?

 I don't recall discussions about whole note tremolo related to the
 tremolo style i was working on.
 As for the said tremolo style, i'd like to finish that indeed, but i
 have lots of other stuff flying around, and also i'm heavily
 demotivated because of recent Patchy rewrite failure :(


 2012/2/4 Brent Annable brentanna...@gmail.com:
 I suppose, since the issue is already known and I'm not a programmer, I just
 need to wait then?

 You can pay David Kastrup to fix it; chances that just waiting will
 be enough to have it fixed are close to 0.  If i were you i'd find
 some other people who want this and pay David together.

Probably it would be more effective to find some people for paying David
to finish the work Janek got stuck on (which, after all, is supposed to
replace work that LilyPond users can't be bothered with doing manually),
and thus free Janek to think about what it would take for him to tackle
this issue rather than working on less pleasant things.

 sorry for being grumpy,

After enough work on LilyPond, this will change.  Not the grumpy part,
but the sorry one.

All the best

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Re: Burden and Volta with Coventry Carol

2012-02-04 Thread Trevor Daniels

Hi

This should help:

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/techniques-specific-to-lyrics#lyrics-and-repeats

Trevor

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Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 6:22 AM
Subject: Burden and Volta with Coventry Carol



Hi Folks,

I'm getting Christmas carols ready for December 2012.

In this case, the Coventry Carol.

I don't know how to arrange for 2 blocks of lyrics: a burden (a
front-loaded chorus), followed by three stanzas.

I explain my problem here, with .ly and .pdf files.

http://www.hosorembo.com/Lily/JF.html#Coventry

A .gif model is here (with slightly different interpretation of 
accidentals).


http://www.8notes.com/christmas/xmas/images/s7272b.gif

(Probably the 1591 MS that everyone works from didn't clearly mark 
accidentals.)


If I use volta for the stanza section, how do I get the stanzas to
print only inside the volta?

I borrowed a \context Voice = sopverse [SopranoVerse] from another
LilyPond file (version 2.6.3); even so, the stanzas start at the
beginning, rather than at the \context point.

The burden over-writes the first stanza
Two simultaneous lyric events, junking this one

Maybe there's a simple line of instructions I need to add.

Maybe I need to completely rethink the way I structure my files.

Thanks in advance,

David Olson
Culver City, California

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Re: Tremolos between two whole notes

2012-02-04 Thread Xavier Scheuer
2012/2/4 Janek Warchoł janek.lilyp...@gmail.com:

 I don't recall discussions about whole note tremolo related to the
 tremolo style i was working on.

OK, I was not sure.   And at that moment I was not courageous enough
to 'dig' into the archive to find the relevant thread.

Now I did.  And I found this discussion I remembered a bit.
It was indeed more recent that the report of 2007, since this discussion
occurred in February 2011 (so exactly one year ago).
The subject was titled Cleanup beam scoring code (yeah, so a bit
difficult to find it by searching with the keyword tremolo!).

Basically Werner, Reinhold and Han-Wen agreed that slanted beam
tremolo should be the default behaviour for whole notes.  And Reinhold
said that

  According to Gardner Read (p. 236-237) and Kurt Stone (p. 150-151),
  the beams of whole-note tremolos are slanted like with shorter
  durations with stems, but the beams are placed centered between the
  whole notes (i.e. not where an imaginary stem would end!). The only
  situation where an imaginary stem is used to determine the
  position/slant of the beams is in cross-staff tremolos.

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-02/msg00029.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-02/msg00032.html
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2011-02/msg00034.html

I'm adding this comment on issue #1176 .


 sorry for being grumpy,

At least you are not whining.  :D

Cheers,
Xavier

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Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor

2012-02-04 Thread ymingt



ming tsang wrote:
 
 pThis works fine in firefox 10.0/p
 
 pI am looking forward to the future feature as mention in your
 email./p
 
 pCan you also include midi output?/p
 ul
 liGood for singing practice/li
 li/li
 /ul
 
 pSee it at:  http://lily.sytes.net http://lily.sytes.net /p
 
 
 

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Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor

2012-02-04 Thread Nils
On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 06:05:10 +
James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello
 
  ?
  
  On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Jonathan Kulp
  jonlancek...@gmail.comwrote:
  
  Completely Awesome! I'm going to show this to my students. They'll
  find this much easier than trying to deal with a separate editor,
  opening pdf reader, etc. Thanks for sharing!
 
 Frescobaldi?
 
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By what definition is Frescobaldi not a separate editor?


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Re: Tremolos between two whole notes

2012-02-04 Thread Neil Thornock
As far as getting the look you want, you need to use a combination of
Beam #'gap, Beam #'positions, Beam #'extra-offset, and NoteHead
#'stem-attachment.  I've gotten very nice results with those
overrides.  It's a pain, but it's worth avoiding the horrible default.

Hope that helps,
Neil

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Brent Annable brentanna...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,

 I have a question, and perhaps a suggestion. I just typeset the following
 tremolo between two whole notes:

 \score {
 \relative c'' {

 \repeat tremolo 16  { gis32 b }

 }
 }

 and was quite disappointed by the fact that Lilypond places the tremolo
 beams horizontally and above the notes in question. I much prefer the look
 of the first tremolo in this image:

 http://media.wiley.com/assets/25/94/0-7645-5105-1_1309.jpg

 with the beams tilted and occupying the space in-between the whole notes. I
 read through the manual and searched for some snippets, but couldn't find
 any reference to this tremolo style at all. Is there any relatively simple
 way of achieving this look that I'm missing? And if not, could a tremolo
 style option perhaps be added for those who prefer them this way?

 Brent.



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Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor

2012-02-04 Thread James
Hello,

On 4 Feb 2012, at 12:42, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote:

 On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 06:05:10 +
 James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello
 
 ?
 
 On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Jonathan Kulp
 jonlancek...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 Completely Awesome! I'm going to show this to my students. They'll
 find this much easier than trying to deal with a separate editor,
 opening pdf reader, etc. Thanks for sharing!
 
 Frescobaldi?
 
 James
 
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 By what definition is Frescobaldi not a separate editor?

Get as pedantic as you like, but Frescobaldi is a Big window with editor on the 
left, PDF output on the right.

This Browser based solution is a big window with an editor on the left and PDF 
output on the right.

Apart from the OS you run on. There is no difference. 

Frescobaldi has a heap more useful features though for serious use than this 
experimental website - that's not to disparage what is done here, it's a nice 
piece of work. 

The Implication that Mr Kulp made was basically not having to keep opening a 
PDF separately from the editor. 

In Linux and MacOs when LilyPad worked for me, you never would need to do that, 
the PDF would update automatically, windows never did. So it was a big window 
on the left where I edited and the PDF on the right where the music appeared. I 
just pressed ctrl-c or whatever it was instead of click a 'preview' button. 
Same difference. Average user doesn't care.

So if I were going to recommend LP editor or composition and the users had 
windows I'd go for FB everytime. Try the latest version 2.2 I think, Wilbert 
has done a cracking job for windows users.
 
You still need an editor to errr edit the LP file and a PDF viewer to view it. 

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verifying \chordmode neglects point-and-click (fixed)

2012-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
Some kind of error with chordmode was fixed.  Can somebody check
this works?
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1022

- Graham

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Re: verifying \chordmode neglects point-and-click (fixed)

2012-02-04 Thread Phil Holmes
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From: Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca

To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:01 PM
Subject: verifying \chordmode neglects point-and-click (fixed)



Some kind of error with chordmode was fixed.  Can somebody check
this works?
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1022

- Graham

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Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor

2012-02-04 Thread Nils
On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 15:52:27 +
James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 On 4 Feb 2012, at 12:42, Nils l...@nilsgey.de wrote:
 
  On Sat, 4 Feb 2012 06:05:10 +
  James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  Hello
  
  ?
  
  On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Jonathan Kulp
  jonlancek...@gmail.comwrote:
  
  Completely Awesome! I'm going to show this to my students. They'll
  find this much easier than trying to deal with a separate editor,
  opening pdf reader, etc. Thanks for sharing!
  
  Frescobaldi?
  
  James
  
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  By what definition is Frescobaldi not a separate editor?
 
 Get as pedantic as you like, but Frescobaldi is a Big window with editor on 
 the left, PDF output on the right.
 
 This Browser based solution is a big window with an editor on the left and 
 PDF output on the right.
 
 Apart from the OS you run on. There is no difference. 
 
 Frescobaldi has a heap more useful features though for serious use than this 
 experimental website - that's not to disparage what is done here, it's a nice 
 piece of work. 
 
 The Implication that Mr Kulp made was basically not having to keep opening a 
 PDF separately from the editor. 
 
 In Linux and MacOs when LilyPad worked for me, you never would need to do 
 that, the PDF would update automatically, windows never did. So it was a big 
 window on the left where I edited and the PDF on the right where the music 
 appeared. I just pressed ctrl-c or whatever it was instead of click a 
 'preview' button. Same difference. Average user doesn't care.
 
 So if I were going to recommend LP editor or composition and the users had 
 windows I'd go for FB everytime. Try the latest version 2.2 I think, Wilbert 
 has done a cracking job for windows users.
  
 You still need an editor to errr edit the LP file and a PDF viewer to view 
 it. 
 
 James

This was not against Frescobaldi, I like it.
My question was real, it is a seperate editor. Seperate from the web point of 
view means that your own computer does the computation.
Especially Lilypond runs on your own computer.

The web editor is different because it runs remote lilypond and you only 
interact with the frontend. This is meant by not seperate.
In fact it would be more accurate to say that you don't want to run a seperate 
lilypond and a seperate pdf viewer. The text-area is the center of view and so 
it cannot be seperate per definitionem.

Nils 



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Re: Roadblock MacOSX 10.4 for release of LilyPond 2.16

2012-02-04 Thread James Worlton


On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:30 AM, James Worlton wrote:


On my PPC 10.4 machine Lily 2.15.26 was the last one that ran (the
GUI) without problems. I am not near my machine now, and so I can't
test if 2.15.27 will run from the command line. I'll test that
tonight.



So, I'm a bit late with the results of this test. But I can say that  
the most

recent dev. version, 2.15.28, DOES compile and provide output if
you run Lily from the command line. It appears the problem is solely
related to the GUI.

Mac OS X 10.4
Dual 2.7 GHz PPC G5

James Worlton

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Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor

2012-02-04 Thread Jonathan Kulp
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 9:52 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Frescobaldi has a heap more useful features though for serious use than this 
 experimental website - that's not to disparage what is done here, it's a nice 
 piece of work.

 The Implication that Mr Kulp made was basically not having to keep opening a 
 PDF separately from the editor.


Frescobaldi looks nice (although the pdf preview didn't work for me),
I didn't mean to say anything against it. What I like about the web
app is that one needn't install anything. I personally use vim and a
shell script of my own for previewing. I wouldn't use either
Frescobaldi or the web app for myself, I just meant the web app is
great to give super-quick intro without having to install anything.

Jon
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Re: Roadblock MacOSX 10.4 for release of LilyPond 2.16

2012-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
James Worlton jworl...@gmail.com writes:

 On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:30 AM, James Worlton wrote:

 On my PPC 10.4 machine Lily 2.15.26 was the last one that ran (the
 GUI) without problems. I am not near my machine now, and so I can't
 test if 2.15.27 will run from the command line. I'll test that
 tonight.


 So, I'm a bit late with the results of this test. But I can say that
 the most
 recent dev. version, 2.15.28, DOES compile and provide output if
 you run Lily from the command line. It appears the problem is solely
 related to the GUI.

 Mac OS X 10.4
 Dual 2.7 GHz PPC G5

I have an hour of developer time from Graham left that I earned with a
job I did for him.  He estimates that the preexisting work and analysis
should make this suffice for him getting the MacOSX changes required
into GUB.  For the sake of getting a stable release out soon, I am
willing to make that issue go away.

However, it will also go away by declaring MacOSX PPC an unsupported
platform.  I don't see any rationale why I should ask Graham to do the
work just out of his heart's goodness.  And if the MacOSX PPC community
does not consider this task worth the 70€ for which I would let my
remaining Graham hour go (and it is definitely a steal), there is no
point in anybody investing the work for a platform nobody is interested
spending any resources on.  I would also guess that a _willing_ MacOSX
developer could learn the ropes in a few hours.  Which would be a more
reliable course in the long run since obviously this problem is not
necessarily the last ever.

Just for the record: I already invested my other Graham hour into a
release-critical task that is not particularly interesting to me.

And I am sick to death about users pontificating why I (or Graham or
whoever else) should consider it my holy duty to make them happy at any
price to myself.  So here is your chance at showing that there is enough
interest in maintaining PPC compatibility to give it a reasonable shot
of happening (and be realistic: even a Graham hour is not more than a
good shot at it: if you are really serious, learn the ropes and invest
the time it takes to get this right).

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Re: Roadblock MacOSX 10.4 for release of LilyPond 2.16

2012-02-04 Thread Stan Sanderson
On Feb 4, 2012, at 5:07 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 James Worlton jworl...@gmail.com writes:
 
 On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:30 AM, James Worlton wrote:
 
 On my PPC 10.4 machine Lily 2.15.26 was the last one that ran (the
 GUI) without problems. I am not near my machine now, and so I can't
 test if 2.15.27 will run from the command line. I'll test that
 tonight.
 
 
 So, I'm a bit late with the results of this test. But I can say that
 the most
 recent dev. version, 2.15.28, DOES compile and provide output if
 you run Lily from the command line. It appears the problem is solely
 related to the GUI.
 
 Mac OS X 10.4
 Dual 2.7 GHz PPC G5
 
 I have an hour of developer time from Graham left that I earned with a
 job I did for him.  He estimates that the preexisting work and analysis
 should make this suffice for him getting the MacOSX changes required
 into GUB.  For the sake of getting a stable release out soon, I am
 willing to make that issue go away.
 
 However, it will also go away by declaring MacOSX PPC an unsupported
 platform.  I don't see any rationale why I should ask Graham to do the
 work just out of his heart's goodness.  And if the MacOSX PPC community
 does not consider this task worth the 70€ for which I would let my
 remaining Graham hour go (and it is definitely a steal), there is no
 point in anybody investing the work for a platform nobody is interested
 spending any resources on.  I would also guess that a _willing_ MacOSX
 developer could learn the ropes in a few hours.  Which would be a more
 reliable course in the long run since obviously this problem is not
 necessarily the last ever.
 
 Just for the record: I already invested my other Graham hour into a
 release-critical task that is not particularly interesting to me.
 
 And I am sick to death about users pontificating why I (or Graham or
 whoever else) should consider it my holy duty to make them happy at any
 price to myself.  So here is your chance at showing that there is enough
 interest in maintaining PPC compatibility to give it a reasonable shot
 of happening (and be realistic: even a Graham hour is not more than a
 good shot at it: if you are really serious, learn the ropes and invest
 the time it takes to get this right).
 
 -- 
 David Kastrup
 
 
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David, et. al.,

This is the first I've seen that PPC is to be totally abandoned. I'm running 
the the development version on my PowerBook G4, OS 10.5.8, with no problems. 
What will change to take that functionality away?

I would truly like to be able to dig into the code, and many years ago I would 
have offered to help. I once taught programming. However, the learning curve 
would be precipitously steep, and I'm afraid somewhat Sisyphean!

Regards,

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Re: Roadblock MacOSX 10.4 for release of LilyPond 2.16

2012-02-04 Thread Tim McNamara

On Feb 4, 2012, at 5:07 PM, David Kastrup wrote:

 James Worlton jworl...@gmail.com writes:
 
 On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:30 AM, James Worlton wrote:
 
 On my PPC 10.4 machine Lily 2.15.26 was the last one that ran (the
 GUI) without problems. I am not near my machine now, and so I can't
 test if 2.15.27 will run from the command line. I'll test that
 tonight.
 
 
 So, I'm a bit late with the results of this test. But I can say that
 the most
 recent dev. version, 2.15.28, DOES compile and provide output if
 you run Lily from the command line. It appears the problem is solely
 related to the GUI.
 
 Mac OS X 10.4
 Dual 2.7 GHz PPC G5
 
 I have an hour of developer time from Graham left that I earned with a
 job I did for him.  He estimates that the preexisting work and analysis
 should make this suffice for him getting the MacOSX changes required
 into GUB.  For the sake of getting a stable release out soon, I am
 willing to make that issue go away.
 
 However, it will also go away by declaring MacOSX PPC an unsupported
 platform.  I don't see any rationale why I should ask Graham to do the
 work just out of his heart's goodness.  And if the MacOSX PPC community
 does not consider this task worth the 70€ for which I would let my
 remaining Graham hour go (and it is definitely a steal), there is no
 point in anybody investing the work for a platform nobody is interested
 spending any resources on.  I would also guess that a _willing_ MacOSX
 developer could learn the ropes in a few hours.  Which would be a more
 reliable course in the long run since obviously this problem is not
 necessarily the last ever.
 
 Just for the record: I already invested my other Graham hour into a
 release-critical task that is not particularly interesting to me.
 
 And I am sick to death about users pontificating why I (or Graham or
 whoever else) should consider it my holy duty to make them happy at any
 price to myself.  So here is your chance at showing that there is enough
 interest in maintaining PPC compatibility to give it a reasonable shot
 of happening (and be realistic: even a Graham hour is not more than a
 good shot at it: if you are really serious, learn the ropes and invest
 the time it takes to get this right).

I don't use the PPC platform for Lilypond any more but I am willing to kick in 
some cash if that will help make it possible to maintain usability on older 
Macs.  I know absolutely nothing about computer programming, so I can't do the 
work.  It'd be a lot faster for me to pay for someone else's time than to learn 
the skills to do it myself.  

I'll pledge US $25 if that will help.  Any other donors willing to pony up?
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Re: Roadblock MacOSX 10.4 for release of LilyPond 2.16

2012-02-04 Thread David Kastrup
Stan Sanderson stans...@gmail.com writes:

 On Feb 4, 2012, at 5:07 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 James Worlton jworl...@gmail.com writes:
 
 On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:30 AM, James Worlton wrote:
 
 On my PPC 10.4 machine Lily 2.15.26 was the last one that ran (the
 GUI) without problems. I am not near my machine now, and so I can't
 test if 2.15.27 will run from the command line. I'll test that
 tonight.
 
 
 So, I'm a bit late with the results of this test. But I can say that
 the most
 recent dev. version, 2.15.28, DOES compile and provide output if
 you run Lily from the command line. It appears the problem is solely
 related to the GUI.
 
 Mac OS X 10.4
 Dual 2.7 GHz PPC G5
 
 I have an hour of developer time from Graham left that I earned with a
 job I did for him.  He estimates that the preexisting work and analysis
 should make this suffice for him getting the MacOSX changes required
 into GUB.  For the sake of getting a stable release out soon, I am
 willing to make that issue go away.
 
 However, it will also go away by declaring MacOSX PPC an unsupported
 platform.  I don't see any rationale why I should ask Graham to do the
 work just out of his heart's goodness.  And if the MacOSX PPC community
 does not consider this task worth the 70€ for which I would let my
 remaining Graham hour go (and it is definitely a steal), there is no
 point in anybody investing the work for a platform nobody is interested
 spending any resources on.

 This is the first I've seen that PPC is to be totally abandoned. I'm
 running the the development version on my PowerBook G4, OS 10.5.8,
 with no problems. What will change to take that functionality away?

I have no idea as I am not a MacOSX user.
URL:code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2271 has the details
(concerns the GUI it seems).  If the _current_ version works for you,
there is no reason to suspect it to stop doing so.  Nobody is breaking
things on purpose.  But nobody is going to fix things on purpose either,
if nobody cares about them.

 I would truly like to be able to dig into the code, and many years ago
 I would have offered to help. I once taught programming. However, the
 learning curve would be precipitously steep, and I'm afraid somewhat
 Sisyphean!

Which is why somebody else should do it out of the goodness of their
heart.  At some point of time the goodness gets spread a bit thin, and
you have to expect spotty coverage.

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Spacing issue with ledger lines and custom Marks context

2012-02-04 Thread Shevek

Hello,

I posted a thread a week or two ago about the spacing issue with
MetronomeMarks and multimeasure rests. The upshot of that thread was that I
started using a custom context to display all my MetronomeMarks and
RehearsalMarks. It works great, except that whenever there are ledger lines,
the marks still affect the horizontal spacing of the notes. What I'd like to
happen is that the notes above the staff bump the MarkLine context to a
greater vertical distance from the staff, keeping the horizontal spacing
intact. Any ideas on how to accomplish that?

\version 2.14.2
\language english

\paper {
  ragged-right = ##t
}

foo = \relative c''' {
  \tempo For example
  c4 d e f |
  g f e d |
  \mark \default
  c e g f |
  e2 c2 | \break
  \tempo blah blah blah
  R1*2 |
  \mark \default
  R1*2 | \break
  \resetRelativeOctave c'''
  \tempo For example
  c4 d, e f |
  g f e d |
  \mark blah
  e e g f |
  e2 c2 |
}

\score {
  
\new MarkLine \foo
\new Staff { \compressFullBarRests \foo }
  
  \layout {
\context {
  \name MarkLine
  \type Engraver_group
  \consists Output_property_engraver
  \consists Axis_group_engraver
  \consists Mark_engraver
  \consists Metronome_mark_engraver
%   If you comment the following two lines, the notes space correctly
%   The marks then don't space correctly over the multimeasure rests,
however
  \override RehearsalMark #'extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 0)
  \override MetronomeMark #'extra-spacing-width = #'(0 . 0)
  \override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'(-2 . 2 )
  \override VerticalAxisGroup #'staff-staff-spacing = #'((basic-distance
. 1)
   
(minimum-distance . 1)
(padding . 1)
(stretchability
. 3))
}
\context {
  \Score
  \override MultiMeasureRest #'expand-limit = #1
  \remove Mark_engraver
  \remove Metronome_mark_engraver
  \accepts MarkLine
}
  }
}

As I remarked in the comment, the extra-spacing-width is what causes the
horizontal spacing problem. As you can see from the third system in the
example, though, the extra-spacing-width works fine with the horizontal
spacing as long as the notes are low enough in the staff. Two ledger lines
above the staff seems to be the limit for MetronomeMarks before the note
spacing is affected; the top space of the staff seems to be the limit for
RehearsalMarks before note spacing is affected.

I'd really appreciate any suggestions on how to solve this issue.


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Re: Beam Collides with Clef Number

2012-02-04 Thread James
Hello,

On 5 February 2012 01:17, Jay Anderson horndud...@gmail.com wrote:
 \version 2.15.28

 \score
 {
  \new Staff \relative c''
  {
    \clef treble
    c8^[
    \clef bass^8
    e,]
  }
 }

 I'm pretty sure this is an OctavateEight created with the clef. Is
 there a way to tell the beam to avoid it without code changes?


See:

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/displaying-pitches#clef

First snippets lower down the page

'Tweaking clef properties'

Also opened

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2284


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