Re: bar-check warning when generating rehearsal midi soprano, alto, tenor etc

2014-01-24 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hello,

yesterday I wrote about your variables, using the melody for lyrics,
for example \sopranoVoiceI instead of \verseSopranoVoiceI

\partial and rests in a Lyrics context lead to unexpectable(?) behaviour.
I came on something else, which does not affect your file, but I just
want to note it here for reference:

If you put \partial inside a repeat and then unfold the repeats
--snip--

\version 2.18.0

music = \repeat volta 2 { \partial 4 r4 | R1 | r2 r4 }

\score {
\unfoldRepeats \music
}
--snip--

It will at least lead to a warning about a partial beyond the beginning
of the music.

HTH

Cheers, Jan-Peter


On 23.01.2014 02:45, MING TSANG wrote:

 but when I added rehearsal midi generation, I got warning bar-check error.


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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Shann
Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious
synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices
without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a
chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about
and why I can't find it documented...

Richard



On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 08:01 -0600, David Nalesnik wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Thomas Morley
 thomasmorle...@gmail.com wrote:
  
 Below some coding just to show that it can be done.
 It's a very first sketch, several issues are present (p.e.
 linebreak)
 Might be a starting point, though.
 
 
 
 There's also the attached file (which comes
 from 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-devel@gnu.org/msg47432/shape-tie-columns.ly)
  which will work with broken ties.
 
 
 HTH,
 David



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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread Simon Bailey
hi,

On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com wrote:
 Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious
 synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices
 without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a
 chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about
 and why I can't find it documented...

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition

there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :)


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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:

 Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious
 synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices
 without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a
 chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about
 and why I can't find it documented...

URL:http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition


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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes:

 hi,

 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com 
 wrote:
 Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious
 synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices
 without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a
 chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about
 and why I can't find it documented...

 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition

 there's a few things which are only documented in the learning
 manual. :)

Not this one, though.

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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread Simon Bailey
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:26 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes:

 hi,

 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com 
 wrote:
 Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious
 synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices
 without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a
 chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about
 and why I can't find it documented...

 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition

 there's a few things which are only documented in the learning
 manual. :)

 Not this one, though.

i was about to correct the error of my ways -- the link is to the NR
not the LM. sorry :)

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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Shann
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:26 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
 Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes:
 
  hi,
 
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com 
  wrote:
  Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious
  synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices
  without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a
  chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about
  and why I can't find it documented...
 
  http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition
 
  there's a few things which are only documented in the learning
  manual. :)
 
 Not this one, though.

So is this a bug with the documentation (incomplete indexing)?

Richard




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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:

 On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:26 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
 Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes:
 
  hi,
 
  On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com 
  wrote:
  Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious
  synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices
  without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a
  chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about
  and why I can't find it documented...
 
  http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition
 
  there's a few things which are only documented in the learning
  manual. :)
 
 Not this one, though.

 So is this a bug with the documentation (incomplete indexing)?

Well, we don't have c, cis, ces... indexed, either.  Admittedly, we do
have r, s, and R in the index.

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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread Eluze
Richard Shann-2 wrote
 [...] 
 I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in
 the two indices
 without success. 
 [...] 
  I wonder what exactly it is all about
 and why I can't find it documented...

searching for the *word* q would help:

one place you'll find it is /E. LilyPond index/ , but in /D. LilyPond
command index/ it's missing, indeed

I wonder, after the introduction of repeating pitches and chords with a
simple duration in 2.19.1(?), if there is good reason to keep this command!?

Eluze







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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Shann
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:31 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
 Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:
 
  On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:26 +0100, David Kastrup wrote:
  Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes:
  
   hi,
  
   On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann 
   rich...@rshann.plus.com wrote:
   Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious
   synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices
   without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a
   chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about
   and why I can't find it documented...
  
   http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition
  
   there's a few things which are only documented in the learning
   manual. :)
  
  Not this one, though.
 
  So is this a bug with the documentation (incomplete indexing)?
 
 Well, we don't have c, cis, ces... indexed, either.  Admittedly, we do
 have r, s, and R in the index.

yes, I was thinking about that - there is the language include file that
would affect some of those, but to be practical, I don't recall ever
noticing q in the past ten years or so of watching and using LilyPond
(well, I virtually never have to write chords myself so perhaps it is
not surprising)

Richard



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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread James

On 24/01/14 09:22, Simon Bailey wrote:

hi,

On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com wrote:

Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious
synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices
without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a
chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about
and why I can't find it documented...

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition

there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :)



Actually I would change that last sentence to read:

There's a few things which are not documented in the Learning Manual.

And this is a deliberate decision. If not, it's still a good decision.

I don't see q as being needed in  the Learning Manual as a good thing; 
apart from all the discussion how 'q' is a rather arbitrary 'command' - 
why 'q'? what does 'q' stand for etc., not knowing q doesn't lose you 
any functionality (i.e. there is nothing that q does that you cannot 
already do with the 'correct' syntax) but there are limitations using q 
- which are/should be documented in the Notation Reference.


As to the quote:

there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :)


That implies that we're missing things in the NR that shoudl be in 
there. If so then let the list know (lilypond-...@gnu.org) and that can 
be fixed.


Thanks

James




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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Jacques Menu
Hello Hraban,

I found that one: Ctrl-left/right arrow move the cursor to the beginning or end 
of the current line.

JM

Le 24 janv. 2014 à 08:52:41, Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net a écrit :

 
 Am 2014-01-23 um 20:35 schrieb Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.com:
 
 The patch is now in MacPorts.
 
 Great, it works again! Thank you (all of you) very much!
 
 
 I have two little complaints with Frescobaldi on OSX, that didn’t change in 
 all the versions I tried:
 
 - If I start the program by opening a .ly file, Frescobaldi starts, but the 
 file doesn’t open.
 
 - There seems to be no keyboard shortcut to get to the end of the line, 
 that’s very inconvenient. The „End“ key is going to the end of the file, as 
 usual on Mac, but Cmd-Right (Meta-Right), the usual key for end of line, 
 changes the tab. I didn’t look into the code yet - in the preferences I can’t 
 change those keys.
 
 Should I open two tickets?
 
 
 Greetlings, Hraban
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 fiëé visuëlle
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 http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/
 https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer)
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Simon Bailey
Hi Henning et al,

On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm
lilypon...@fiee.net wrote:
 I have two little complaints with Frescobaldi on OSX, that didn’t change in 
 all the versions I tried:

 - If I start the program by opening a .ly file, Frescobaldi starts, but the 
 file doesn’t open.

This was a known issue a while back and was fixed. I reinstalled
frescobaldi through MacPorts yesterday morning and it works for me --
you may have to associate the file with
/Applications/MacPorts/Frescobaldi.app rather than with the
/opt/local/bin/frescobaldi binary (location may be different for you).

 - There seems to be no keyboard shortcut to get to the end of the line, 
 that’s very inconvenient. The „End“ key is going to the end of the file, as 
 usual on Mac, but Cmd-Right (Meta-Right), the usual key for end of line, 
 changes the tab. I didn’t look into the code yet - in the preferences I can’t 
 change those keys.

This is strange -- it works for me. Cmd+[ or Cmd+] change the tabs.

What I find slightly irritating is that scrolling the preview window
steals focus from the text editor. I assume this is probably a poppler
problem.

regards,
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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Davide Liessi
Dear Hraban,

2014/1/24 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net:
 - If I start the program by opening a .ly file, Frescobaldi starts, but the 
 file doesn’t open.

There was this problem in previous versions, but it should be solved
in 2.0.13: on my machine I can either open a file with Open with... 
Frescobaldi or double click on a file associated with Frescobaldi or
drag and drop the file over Frescobaldi's icon in the dock and
Frescobaldi starts correctly and opens the file.

What happens exactly? What is the version you are using? Are you using
the application bundle created by MacPorts?

Best wishes.
Davide

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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes:

 Richard Shann-2 wrote
 [...] 
 I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in
 the two indices
 without success. 
 [...] 
  I wonder what exactly it is all about
 and why I can't find it documented...

 searching for the *word* q would help:

 one place you'll find it is /E. LilyPond index/ , but in /D. LilyPond
 command index/ it's missing, indeed

 I wonder, after the introduction of repeating pitches and chords with
 a simple duration in 2.19.1(?), if there is good reason to keep this
 command!?

It's different.  For one thing, it's chord-only, so it helps in
situations like

{ \partial 8 g8 | c' e' g' 4 r8 g c' e' g'4 r8 g | c' e' g'1 | }

In particular the Oom-pah kind of alternating basses accompaniment
used with accordions and also in a number of basic piano styles (like
ragtime) benefit (it makes it quite easier to recognize in the input
that the interspersed chords remain identical).

{ c g c' e'  g, g c' e' ...

For another, q carries forward articulations (and on demand, fingering,
though this could be made less relevant when someone chooses to work on
issue URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3662).

The main incentive for doing the fascinating rhythm patch was not
actually being able to simplify repeated pitches, but to have a
representation for purely rhythmic material.

Of course, with things like

tamb 4. 8 4 4

there is a bit of overlap since it _starts_ with a pitch that is later
repeated throughout the part.

It's conceivable that if pure rhythms were present before chord
repetitions, the latter would not have made it off the ground (even
alternating basses can be written as
{  { c4 s g, s }
 { s g c' e' s4 4 }  }
if you really _must_).  But the cat seems out of the bag far enough that
there is no point in stuffing it back again.

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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread Simon Bailey
James,

On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:56 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
 there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :)


 Actually I would change that last sentence to read:

 There's a few things which are not documented in the Learning Manual.

 And this is a deliberate decision. If not, it's still a good decision.

i realised my mistake almost as soon as i pressed send. the link i
sent is to the NR and there's an amazing amount of information not
covered in the LM. Correctly so.

 I don't see q as being needed in  the Learning Manual as a good thing; apart
 from all the discussion how 'q' is a rather arbitrary 'command' - why 'q'?
 what does 'q' stand for etc., not knowing q doesn't lose you any
 functionality (i.e. there is nothing that q does that you cannot already do
 with the 'correct' syntax) but there are limitations using q - which
 are/should be documented in the Notation Reference.

two i can think of:
- it can't be quoted (at least i haven't found the correct event to quote yet)
- it can't be altered with relative octave-switch commands

 As to the quote:

 there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :)

 That implies that we're missing things in the NR that shoudl be in there. If
 so then let the list know (lilypond-...@gnu.org) and that can be fixed.

i remember looking for something fairly basic a while back and only
finding it in the LM. at the time, i decided that it deserves to be in
the LM and may not really be needed in the NR. however, for the life
of me, i cannot remember what it was i was looking for. :)

if i come across it again, i'll shout. ;)

regards,
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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread Richard Shann
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 01:36 -0800, Eluze wrote:
 Richard Shann-2 wrote
  [...] 
  I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this
 up in
  the two indices
  without success. 
  [...] 
   I wonder what exactly it is all about
  and why I can't find it documented...
 
 searching for the *word* q would help:
 
 one place you'll find it is /E. LilyPond index/ , but in /D. LilyPond
 command index/ it's missing, indeed 

??? I tried both indices, clicked on the alphabetical Q link and got a
list which doesn't include q, what else could I do?

Richard



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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes:

 James,

 On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:56 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
 there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :)


 Actually I would change that last sentence to read:

 There's a few things which are not documented in the Learning Manual.

 And this is a deliberate decision. If not, it's still a good decision.

 i realised my mistake almost as soon as i pressed send. the link i
 sent is to the NR and there's an amazing amount of information not
 covered in the LM. Correctly so.

 I don't see q as being needed in  the Learning Manual as a good thing; apart
 from all the discussion how 'q' is a rather arbitrary 'command' - why 'q'?
 what does 'q' stand for etc., not knowing q doesn't lose you any
 functionality (i.e. there is nothing that q does that you cannot already do
 with the 'correct' syntax) but there are limitations using q - which
 are/should be documented in the Notation Reference.

 two i can think of:
 - it can't be quoted (at least i haven't found the correct event to
 quote yet)

I think that this will be fixed as a side effect of
URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3810.

 - it can't be altered with relative octave-switch commands

Well, it would be so weird behavior in a \relative section that I'm
actually glad about that.  Why would you even want to do that?

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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:

 Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes:

[ q ]

 two i can think of:
 - it can't be quoted (at least i haven't found the correct event to
 quote yet)

 I think that this will be fixed as a side effect of
 URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3810.

and of course, you can always call \chordRepeats explicitly on the music
you want to quote.

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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Xavier Noria
Just confirming that installing from a fresh MacPorts works perfectly.
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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread Simon Bailey
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:44 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes:
 two i can think of:
 - it can't be quoted (at least i haven't found the correct event to
 quote yet)

 I think that this will be fixed as a side effect of
 URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3810.

cool. i _really_ like the new rhythm syntax. :)

 and of course, you can always call \chordRepeats explicitly on the music
 you want to quote.

first time i've heard about that function. :) yes, it's in the
documentation, but only as a way to repeat event types on chords --
doesn't explicitly state that it would expand q to become the chords
in music expressions [but makes sense if you think outside of the box
a bit].

 - it can't be altered with relative octave-switch commands

 Well, it would be so weird behavior in a \relative section that I'm
 actually glad about that.  Why would you even want to do that?

in the piano music i've been typesetting over the last few months,
i've come across a lot of chords that jump around in octaves -- being
able to octave a chord repetition would sometimes be handy. a very
trivial example:

%%% SNIPSNAP %%%
\new PianoStaff 
  \new Staff = up \relative c' { d fis a2 d' fis a2 }
  \new Staff = down \relative c { \clef bass d d,2 d, d,2 }
}
%%% SNAPSNIP %%%

could conceivably be written as:
%%% SNIPSNAP %%%
\new PianoStaff 
  \new Staff = up \relative c' { d fis a2  q' }
  \new Staff = down \relative c { \clef bass d d,2  q, }
}
%%% SNAPSNIP %%%

may or may not be a fringe case.

regards,
sb

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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2014-01-24 um 16:11 schrieb Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.com:

 Dear Hraban,
 
 2014/1/24 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net:
 - If I start the program by opening a .ly file, Frescobaldi starts, but the 
 file doesn’t open.
 
 There was this problem in previous versions, but it should be solved
 in 2.0.13: on my machine I can either open a file with Open with... 
 Frescobaldi or double click on a file associated with Frescobaldi or
 drag and drop the file over Frescobaldi's icon in the dock and
 Frescobaldi starts correctly and opens the file.
 
 What happens exactly? What is the version you are using? Are you using
 the application bundle created by MacPorts?

If Frescobaldi already runs and I doubleclick a .ly file, it opens correctly.
But if FB is not yet running, it just starts, but doesn’t open the file.

The FB icon in Finder doesn’t accept any files, just in the dock. But if the 
app isn’t running, dragging on the dock icon just brings FB to front.

I use today’s MacPorts dev version on OSX 10.9.

Maybe these lines in the system log are related, I get them with every try to 
open:

24.01.14 17:19:03,384 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31909]) Exited 
with code: 2
24.01.14 17:19:03,385 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31913]) 
open(/opt/local/var/log/rsyncd.log, ...): 2: No such file or directory
24.01.14 17:19:03,401 rsyncd[31915]: rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 
1) at clientserver.c(1056) [Receiver=3.0.9]
24.01.14 17:19:12,954 Finder[425]: [QL] Can't get plugin bundle info at 
file:///Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/SourceCode.qlgenerator/



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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2014-01-24 um 15:54 schrieb Jacques Menu jacques.m...@tvtmail.ch:

 Hello Hraban,
 
 I found that one: Ctrl-left/right arrow move the cursor to the beginning or 
 end of the current line.

On my machine these are set as „move one workspace to left/right“. 
Unfortunately you can’t re-map those keys, just disable. But since I can 
address the spaces also with ^1 ^2 ^3, disabling is feasible.
Thank you for the hint!
But I would appreciate default Mac editing keys in Frescobaldi anyway.


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Re: Shape of individual ties in chords

2014-01-24 Thread Eluze
Richard Shann-2 wrote
 
 searching for the *word* q would help:
 
 
 ??? I tried both indices, clicked on the alphabetical Q link and got a
 list which doesn't include q, what else could I do?

see above 

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Looking for work arround for partcombine's known issue

2014-01-24 Thread Ed Gordijn

Hi,

I'm working with partcombine and don't know how to solve an 
'unterminated slur' issue. I suppose this is the known issue that is 
described in the manual:


'\partcombine keeps all spanners (slurs, ties, hairpins etc.) in the 
same Voice so that if any such spanners start or end in a different 
Voice, they may not be printed properly or at all.'


But is there a work around for this?

See my minimal example showing the problem,

Greetings Ed


\version 2.18.0

musicI  = { e''2( a'2) }
musicII = { e'2( \partcombineApart a'2) }

\markup { Partcombine is not showing slurs: warning: unterminated slur}
{
  \partcombine \musicI \musicII
}





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Horizontal TupletBrackets?

2014-01-24 Thread Peter Crighton
Hi List,

is there a way to have all TupletBrackets in a score be horizontal without
altering every single one?
See this example – first bar is the default, second bar is how I’d like to
have it all through the score, but without overriding every one.


\version 2.19.0

\new DrumVoice {
  \drummode {
\voiceOne
\set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4)
\tuplet 3/2 {
  hh sn4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8
  \once \override TupletBracket.positions = #'(6.625 . 6.625) hh sn4
cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8
}
  }
}


In a drum score I think it’s preferable to have all Beams and
TupletBrackets horizontal as this helps with reading. For Beams there is
the possibility of \override Beam.damping = #+inf.0, but I can’t find
anything similar for TupletBrackets.

I’d appreciate any help!

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vertical position of secondary beams

2014-01-24 Thread Urs Liska

Hi list,

sorry to ask something which could be looked up in the docs. But I've 
struggled so far to achieve the attached result and can't seem to get my 
mind clear anymore to find the solution :-(


All non-standard stuff is just as I want it except one:
The secondary beam at the last (the smaller) bes should be closer to the 
main beam in order _not_ to clash with the thicker beam.


So which grob and which property do I have to override to move that beamlet?

TIA
Urs
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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Davide Liessi
Dear Hraban,

2014/1/24 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net:
 Am 2014-01-24 um 16:11 schrieb Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.com:
 What happens exactly? What is the version you are using? Are you using
 the application bundle created by MacPorts?

 If Frescobaldi already runs and I doubleclick a .ly file, it opens correctly.
 But if FB is not yet running, it just starts, but doesn’t open the file.

 The FB icon in Finder doesn’t accept any files, just in the dock. But if the 
 app isn’t running, dragging on the dock icon just brings FB to front.

Your description is very similar to what used to happen.
So either 10.9 needs something else to solve the problem or you are
using an old application bundle.

I understand that you say

 I use today’s MacPorts dev version on OSX 10.9.

but are you sure that the Frescobaldi application bundle you are using
is the one provided by current MacPorts and not a previous application
bundle (maybe created with the previous installation instructions or
with your initial version of the py2app setup file)?

If you enter the following line in the Terminal, does Frescobaldi open the file?
open -a /Applications/MacPorts/Frescobaldi.app /path/to/file.ly

 Maybe these lines in the system log are related, I get them with every try to 
 open:

 24.01.14 17:19:03,384 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31909]) 
 Exited with code: 2
 24.01.14 17:19:03,385 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31913]) 
 open(/opt/local/var/log/rsyncd.log, ...): 2: No such file or directory
 24.01.14 17:19:03,401 rsyncd[31915]: rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 
 1) at clientserver.c(1056) [Receiver=3.0.9]
 24.01.14 17:19:12,954 Finder[425]: [QL] Can't get plugin bundle info at 
 file:///Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/SourceCode.qlgenerator/

I don't get these errors on my machine, and I don't know what could cause them.

Frescobaldi/MacPorts users: can you please report how does Frescobaldi
behave on your system?
Here is what should happen (and happens on my 10.6 machine and on a
10.8 machine I can access sometimes):
if you either
- drag and drop a ly file (or any text file, for what is worth) over
the icon of Frescobaldi in the Dock, or
- right-click on a ly file and choose Open with...  Frescobaldi
([version]), or
- double-click on a ly file associated with Frescobaldi (to associate
a file: right-click on the file, choose Get Info and choose
Frescobaldi ([version]) in the Open with... dropdown list),
then Frescobaldi should start, if it is not already running, and open the file.

Please, test the latest version (sudo port selfupdate, sudo port
upgrade outdated) and tell us also the version of Mac OS X.

Best wishes.
Davide

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Re: Looking for work arround for partcombine's known issue

2014-01-24 Thread Keith OHara
Ed Gordijn ed.klarinet at gmail.com writes:

 musicI  = { e''2( a'2) }
 musicII = { e'2( \partcombineApart a'2) }
 {
   \partcombine \musicI \musicII
 }

You can print the slurs separately 

  musicI  = { e''2( a'2) }
  musicII = {\partcombineApart  e'2( a'2) }

or together
  musicI  = { e''2( a'2) }
  musicII = { e'2( a'2) }

Maybe this is not really an 'issue' at all.




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Re: Looking for work arround for partcombine's known issue

2014-01-24 Thread Ed Gordijn

Hi Keith,

musicI  = { e''2( a'2) }
musicII = { e'2( \partcombineApart a'2) }
{
  \partcombine \musicI \musicII
}


You can print the slurs separately

   musicI  = { e''2( a'2) }
   musicII = {\partcombineApart  e'2( a'2) }

or together
   musicI  = { e''2( a'2) }
   musicII = { e'2( a'2) }

Maybe this is not really an 'issue' at all.

If you move the \partcombineApart before the start of the slur then you 
are right and there is no issue. But, if I understand it correctly,that 
is because the slur then starts and ends in the same voice. The thing is 
that I want it to look like the included figure. So the e' e'' as a 
chord and the a' with two stems.


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Re: vertical position of secondary beams

2014-01-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Urs,

2014/1/24 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org:
 All non-standard stuff is just as I want it except one:
 The secondary beam at the last (the smaller) bes should be closer to the
 main beam in order _not_ to clash with the thicker beam.

 So which grob and which property do I have to override to move that beamlet?

\override Beam #'length-fraction = #0.5

Small wonder you couldn't find it...  I don't know who chose this
name, but it's definitely nuts!

Janek

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Re: Web site manual search defaulting to 2.17

2014-01-24 Thread Nick Payne

On 23/01/2014 4:24 PM, Federico Bruni wrote:
2014/1/23 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net 
mailto:nick.pa...@internode.on.net


Using the search box at top right on the LP web site is searching
the 2.17 rather than the 2.18 manuals. e.g. The search submitted
to google is:


https://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Searchbrute_query=bar+engraverq=site%3Alilypond.org%2Fdoc%2Fv2.17+bar+engraver

Shouldn't the default search be the current stable version?


There's an issue already:
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2909

I think that it's just a matter of waiting for google to reindex the 
pages.


No, it's not a matter of waiting for Google to reindex pages. The 
parameters being passed to Google search by the LP web site include 
site:lilypond.org/doc/2.17, which limits the search to the manuals for 2.17.


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Re: Web site manual search defaulting to 2.17

2014-01-24 Thread Federico Bruni
Il 24/gen/2014 22:04 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net ha scritto:

 On 23/01/2014 4:24 PM, Federico Bruni wrote:

 2014/1/23 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net

 Using the search box at top right on the LP web site is searching the
2.17 rather than the 2.18 manuals. e.g. The search submitted to google is:


https://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Searchbrute_query=bar+engraverq=site%3Alilypond.org%2Fdoc%2Fv2.17+bar+engraver

 Shouldn't the default search be the current stable version?


 There's an issue already:
 https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2909

 I think that it's just a matter of waiting for google to reindex the
pages.


 No, it's not a matter of waiting for Google to reindex pages. The
parameters being passed to Google search by the LP web site include site:
lilypond.org/doc/2.17, which limits the search to the manuals for 2.17.


You cut a relevant part of my e-mail
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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Steve Noland
Dear Davide,

I am using the latest MacPorts installation under MacOS 10.8.4., with the 
latest stable LilyPond.   I am experiencing variable results.

When I drag a lilytst.lyhttp://lilytst.ly file (as saved by LilyPond) to the 
Frescobaldi icon in the dock, Frescobaldi opens and loads the file, but does 
not automatically call LilyPond.  When I manually execute LilyPond, it runs to 
completion and the log displays in Frescobaldi, but there is no display in the 
Music View.  Same if I load the file into Frescobaldi via the File/Open dialog. 
 However, if I open Frescobaldi empty, and load another .ly file (e.g. 
lilyJAZZ-testing.lyhttp://lilyJAZZ-testing.ly, it compiles and displays in 
the Music View window.

Hope this helps.  I see no errors in the logs.

Regards,

Steve

From: Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.commailto:davide.lie...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Date: January 24, 2014 10:20:41 AM PST
To: Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.netmailto:lilypon...@fiee.net
Cc: LilyPond lilypond-user@gnu.orgmailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org 
lilypond-user@gnu.orgmailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org


Dear Hraban,

2014/1/24 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.netmailto:lilypon...@fiee.net:
Am 2014-01-24 um 16:11 schrieb Davide Liessi 
davide.lie...@gmail.commailto:davide.lie...@gmail.com:
What happens exactly? What is the version you are using? Are you using
the application bundle created by MacPorts?

If Frescobaldi already runs and I doubleclick a .ly file, it opens correctly.
But if FB is not yet running, it just starts, but doesn’t open the file.

The FB icon in Finder doesn’t accept any files, just in the dock. But if the 
app isn’t running, dragging on the dock icon just brings FB to front.

Your description is very similar to what used to happen.
So either 10.9 needs something else to solve the problem or you are
using an old application bundle.

I understand that you say

I use today’s MacPorts dev version on OSX 10.9.

but are you sure that the Frescobaldi application bundle you are using
is the one provided by current MacPorts and not a previous application
bundle (maybe created with the previous installation instructions or
with your initial version of the py2app setup file)?

If you enter the following line in the Terminal, does Frescobaldi open the file?
open -a /Applications/MacPorts/Frescobaldi.app /path/to/file.lyhttp://file.ly/

Maybe these lines in the system log are related, I get them with every try to 
open:

24.01.14 17:19:03,384 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31909]) Exited 
with code: 2
24.01.14 17:19:03,385 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31913]) 
open(/opt/local/var/log/rsyncd.log, ...): 2: No such file or directory
24.01.14 17:19:03,401 rsyncd[31915]: rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 
1) at clientserver.c(1056) [Receiver=3.0.9]
24.01.14 17:19:12,954 Finder[425]: [QL] Can't get plugin bundle info 
atfile:///Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/SourceCode.qlgenerator/

I don't get these errors on my machine, and I don't know what could cause them.

Frescobaldi/MacPorts users: can you please report how does Frescobaldi
behave on your system?
Here is what should happen (and happens on my 10.6 machine and on a
10.8 machine I can access sometimes):
if you either
- drag and drop a ly file (or any text file, for what is worth) over
the icon of Frescobaldi in the Dock, or
- right-click on a ly file and choose Open with...  Frescobaldi
([version]), or
- double-click on a ly file associated with Frescobaldi (to associate
a file: right-click on the file, choose Get Info and choose
Frescobaldi ([version]) in the Open with... dropdown list),
then Frescobaldi should start, if it is not already running, and open the file.

Please, test the latest version (sudo port selfupdate, sudo port
upgrade outdated) and tell us also the version of Mac OS X.

Best wishes.
Davide
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Re: how close are we to having an addAt or insertAt feature?

2014-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:

 Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes:

 For better or worse, I am currently focusing on speeding up git
 blame which is braking down lots of people.

 Excellent!  If you want a test case from the dark side, try

   http://repo.or.cz/w/wortliste.git

Wrong URL, needs a /r/ in the middle rather than /w/.


 For historical reasons, the `wortliste' is a single, large file
 instead of smaller ones.

 No need.  Got src/xdisp.c from Emacs.  That takes about 2 minutes for me
 right now.

3, actually.

 Looking at the code and where the profiling shows the bulk of time
 being spent, I'd hope to be able to shave off at least 98% or so.
 We'll see.

Bah.  Got only 50% off, and a third of the rest is system time.  At
least an artificial test case went from 40 seconds to 2, but that is
only a 95% reduction, so still a far cry from what I fantasized.

And the wortliste still takes more than 6 minutes on my computer:

dak@lola:/usr/local/tmp/wortliste$ time ../git/git blame wortliste /dev/null

real6m18.501s
user3m58.104s
sys 2m17.880s

This does not really look useful yet.  I might have to look in git's
core diff mechanism to get a better return of investment.

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Re: how close are we to having an addAt or insertAt feature?

2014-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:

 Bah.  Got only 50% off, and a third of the rest is system time.  At
 least an artificial test case went from 40 seconds to 2, but that is
 only a 95% reduction, so still a far cry from what I fantasized.

 And the wortliste still takes more than 6 minutes on my computer:

 dak@lola:/usr/local/tmp/wortliste$ time ../git/git blame wortliste /dev/null

 real  6m18.501s
 user  3m58.104s
 sys   2m17.880s

Which is not even a factor of 3 as compared to previously:

dak@lola:/usr/local/tmp/wortliste$ time git blame wortliste /dev/null

real18m28.269s
user15m54.080s
sys 2m27.760s


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Beam height

2014-01-24 Thread Alex Loomis
Is this a bug? I would expect for the beams to all line up with the first.
They do if you take it down an octave.


\version 2.19.1

{\relative c' {\repeat unfold 4 { es16 fes ges es }}}
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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Paul Morris
Davide Liessi-2 wrote
 Frescobaldi/MacPorts users: can you please report how does Frescobaldi
 behave on your system?
 Here is what should happen (and happens on my 10.6 machine and on a
 10.8 machine I can access sometimes):
 if you either
 - drag and drop a ly file (or any text file, for what is worth) over
 the icon of Frescobaldi in the Dock, or
 - right-click on a ly file and choose Open with...  Frescobaldi
 ([version]), or
 - double-click on a ly file associated with Frescobaldi, then Frescobaldi
 should start, if it is not already running, and open the file.

All of these work for me (as well as dragging it onto the icon in the
Finder) on OSX 10.9.1 with:
Frescobaldi: 2.0.13
Python: 2.7.6
Qt: 4.8.5
PyQt4: 4.10.3
sip: 4.15.3
Operating System: Darwin-13.0.0-x86_64-i386-64bit

-Paul



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Re: Looking for work arround for partcombine's known issue

2014-01-24 Thread Keith OHara

On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:16:02 -0800, Ed Gordijn ed.klari...@gmail.com wrote:


So the e' e'' as a
chord and the a' with two stems.


I don't see any way to have \partcombine do that, but you could force the lower 
e to have a stem up and line up with the upper note.  This almost looks like a 
chord.  (If the overrides are inconsistent with how you want the individual 
parts to look, you can use the \removeWithTag feature.)

musicI  = { e''2( a'2) }
musicII = {\partcombineApart
   \once\stemUp
   \once\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision =##t
   e'2( a'2) }

\partcombine \musicI \musicII


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RE: Beam height

2014-01-24 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Alex,

 

Don't know if it is a bug. The beam in the first set is higher to make room
for the accidentals. Remove the accidentals and the beams line up.

 

Mark

 

From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of
Alex Loomis
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 6:34 PM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Beam height

 

Is this a bug? I would expect for the beams to all line up with the first.
They do if you take it down an octave.

 

\version 2.19.1

{\relative c' {\repeat unfold 4 { es16 fes ges es }}}

 

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Re: how close are we to having an addAt or insertAt feature?

2014-01-24 Thread Werner LEMBERG
 And the wortliste still takes more than 6 minutes on my computer:

 Which is not even a factor of 3 as compared to previously:

But even that is an large improvement.  It's now unbearable and no
longer unusable :-)


Werner

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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Philippe Massart
Davide Liessi-2 wrote
 Frescobaldi/MacPorts users: can you please report how does Frescobaldi
 behave on your system?
 Here is what should happen (and happens on my 10.6 machine and on a
 10.8 machine I can access sometimes):
 if you either
 - drag and drop a ly file (or any text file, for what is worth) over
 the icon of Frescobaldi in the Dock, or
 - right-click on a ly file and choose Open with...  Frescobaldi
 ([version]), or
 - double-click on a ly file associated with Frescobaldi, then Frescobaldi
 should start, if it is not already running, and open the file.
 

With all the latest updates, all file opening situations work only is 
Frrescobaldi is already launched. If double-clicked, right-click etc. on the 
file with Frescobaldi not yet running, it opens Frescobaldi but not the file.

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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm

Am 2014-01-25 um 07:21 schrieb Steve Noland st...@thenolands.us:

 Dear Davide,
 
 I am using the latest MacPorts installation under MacOS 10.8.4., with the 
 latest stable LilyPond.   I am experiencing variable results.
 
 When I drag a lilytst.ly file (as saved by LilyPond) to the Frescobaldi icon 
 in the dock, Frescobaldi opens and loads the file, but does not automatically 
 call LilyPond.

FB is not supposed to run LilyPond automatically at start.

 When I manually execute LilyPond, it runs to completion and the log displays 
 in Frescobaldi, but there is no display in the Music View.  Same if I load 
 the file into Frescobaldi via the File/Open dialog.  However, if I open 
 Frescobaldi empty, and load another .ly file (e.g. lilyJAZZ-testing.ly, it 
 compiles and displays in the Music View window.

This is a different error, related to the poppler library and QT4. The PDF view 
should work again if you re-install (or even just update all outdated ports).


Greetlings, Hraban
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Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update

2014-01-24 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm
Am 2014-01-25 um 00:20 schrieb Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.com:

Dear Davide,

thank you for your effort!

 If Frescobaldi already runs and I doubleclick a .ly file, it opens correctly.
 But if FB is not yet running, it just starts, but doesn’t open the file.
 
 Your description is very similar to what used to happen.
 So either 10.9 needs something else to solve the problem or you are
 using an old application bundle.

No, I checked. Just uninstalled frescobaldi-devel, there was no application 
bundle left.
Cleaned the port and re-installed.

 If you enter the following line in the Terminal, does Frescobaldi open the 
 file?
 open -a /Applications/MacPorts/Frescobaldi.app /path/to/file.ly

No, it doesn’t - it starts but doesn’t open the file, as before. If FB is 
already running, it works.

A quick googling reveals no known argv emulation issues on Mavericks.


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Re: Looking for work arround for partcombine's known issue

2014-01-24 Thread Ed Gordijn


On 24-01-14 21:16, Ed Gordijn wrote:

Hi Keith,

musicI  = { e''2( a'2) }
musicII = { e'2( \partcombineApart a'2) }
{
  \partcombine \musicI \musicII
}

 The thing is that I want it to look like the included figure. So the 
e' e'' as a chord and the a' with two stems.


And now with the correct figure!

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Re: Beam height

2014-01-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2014/1/25 Alex Loomis thebluemusic...@gmail.com:
 Is this a bug? I would expect for the beams to all line up with the first.
 They do if you take it down an octave.

 \version 2.19.1

 {\relative c' {\repeat unfold 4 { es16 fes ges es }}}

As Mark wrote, this is because of accidentals, but you are right that
the beam shouldn't look like this.  It's a defect in beam collision
detecting algorithm.

Janek

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