Re: bar-check warning when generating rehearsal midi soprano, alto, tenor etc
Hello, yesterday I wrote about your variables, using the melody for lyrics, for example \sopranoVoiceI instead of \verseSopranoVoiceI \partial and rests in a Lyrics context lead to unexpectable(?) behaviour. I came on something else, which does not affect your file, but I just want to note it here for reference: If you put \partial inside a repeat and then unfold the repeats --snip-- \version 2.18.0 music = \repeat volta 2 { \partial 4 r4 | R1 | r2 r4 } \score { \unfoldRepeats \music } --snip-- It will at least lead to a warning about a partial beyond the beginning of the music. HTH Cheers, Jan-Peter On 23.01.2014 02:45, MING TSANG wrote: but when I added rehearsal midi generation, I got warning bar-check error. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... Richard On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 08:01 -0600, David Nalesnik wrote: Hi, On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com wrote: Below some coding just to show that it can be done. It's a very first sketch, several issues are present (p.e. linebreak) Might be a starting point, though. There's also the attached file (which comes from http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-devel@gnu.org/msg47432/shape-tie-columns.ly) which will work with broken ties. HTH, David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com wrote: Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :) -- Do not meddle in the affairs of trombonists, for they are subtle and quick to anger. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes: Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... URL:http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes: hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com wrote: Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :) Not this one, though. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:26 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes: hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com wrote: Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :) Not this one, though. i was about to correct the error of my ways -- the link is to the NR not the LM. sorry :) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:26 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes: hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com wrote: Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :) Not this one, though. So is this a bug with the documentation (incomplete indexing)? Richard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes: On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:26 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes: hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com wrote: Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :) Not this one, though. So is this a bug with the documentation (incomplete indexing)? Well, we don't have c, cis, ces... indexed, either. Admittedly, we do have r, s, and R in the index. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
Richard Shann-2 wrote [...] I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. [...] I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... searching for the *word* q would help: one place you'll find it is /E. LilyPond index/ , but in /D. LilyPond command index/ it's missing, indeed I wonder, after the introduction of repeating pitches and chords with a simple duration in 2.19.1(?), if there is good reason to keep this command!? Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Shape-of-individual-ties-in-chords-tp158120p158389.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:31 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes: On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 10:26 +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes: hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com wrote: Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :) Not this one, though. So is this a bug with the documentation (incomplete indexing)? Well, we don't have c, cis, ces... indexed, either. Admittedly, we do have r, s, and R in the index. yes, I was thinking about that - there is the language include file that would affect some of those, but to be practical, I don't recall ever noticing q in the past ten years or so of watching and using LilyPond (well, I virtually never have to write chords myself so perhaps it is not surprising) Richard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
On 24/01/14 09:22, Simon Bailey wrote: hi, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com wrote: Thanks for this - while playing around with it I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. It causes a syntax error after a note but repeats a chord when placed after a chord. I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/single-voice#chord-repetition there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :) Actually I would change that last sentence to read: There's a few things which are not documented in the Learning Manual. And this is a deliberate decision. If not, it's still a good decision. I don't see q as being needed in the Learning Manual as a good thing; apart from all the discussion how 'q' is a rather arbitrary 'command' - why 'q'? what does 'q' stand for etc., not knowing q doesn't lose you any functionality (i.e. there is nothing that q does that you cannot already do with the 'correct' syntax) but there are limitations using q - which are/should be documented in the Notation Reference. As to the quote: there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :) That implies that we're missing things in the NR that shoudl be in there. If so then let the list know (lilypond-...@gnu.org) and that can be fixed. Thanks James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Hello Hraban, I found that one: Ctrl-left/right arrow move the cursor to the beginning or end of the current line. JM Le 24 janv. 2014 à 08:52:41, Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net a écrit : Am 2014-01-23 um 20:35 schrieb Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.com: The patch is now in MacPorts. Great, it works again! Thank you (all of you) very much! I have two little complaints with Frescobaldi on OSX, that didn’t change in all the versions I tried: - If I start the program by opening a .ly file, Frescobaldi starts, but the file doesn’t open. - There seems to be no keyboard shortcut to get to the end of the line, that’s very inconvenient. The „End“ key is going to the end of the file, as usual on Mac, but Cmd-Right (Meta-Right), the usual key for end of line, changes the tab. I didn’t look into the code yet - in the preferences I can’t change those keys. Should I open two tickets? Greetlings, Hraban --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Hi Henning et al, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net wrote: I have two little complaints with Frescobaldi on OSX, that didn’t change in all the versions I tried: - If I start the program by opening a .ly file, Frescobaldi starts, but the file doesn’t open. This was a known issue a while back and was fixed. I reinstalled frescobaldi through MacPorts yesterday morning and it works for me -- you may have to associate the file with /Applications/MacPorts/Frescobaldi.app rather than with the /opt/local/bin/frescobaldi binary (location may be different for you). - There seems to be no keyboard shortcut to get to the end of the line, that’s very inconvenient. The „End“ key is going to the end of the file, as usual on Mac, but Cmd-Right (Meta-Right), the usual key for end of line, changes the tab. I didn’t look into the code yet - in the preferences I can’t change those keys. This is strange -- it works for me. Cmd+[ or Cmd+] change the tabs. What I find slightly irritating is that scrolling the preview window steals focus from the text editor. I assume this is probably a poppler problem. regards, sb -- Do not meddle in the affairs of trombonists, for they are subtle and quick to anger. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Dear Hraban, 2014/1/24 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net: - If I start the program by opening a .ly file, Frescobaldi starts, but the file doesn’t open. There was this problem in previous versions, but it should be solved in 2.0.13: on my machine I can either open a file with Open with... Frescobaldi or double click on a file associated with Frescobaldi or drag and drop the file over Frescobaldi's icon in the dock and Frescobaldi starts correctly and opens the file. What happens exactly? What is the version you are using? Are you using the application bundle created by MacPorts? Best wishes. Davide ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
Eluze elu...@gmail.com writes: Richard Shann-2 wrote [...] I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. [...] I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... searching for the *word* q would help: one place you'll find it is /E. LilyPond index/ , but in /D. LilyPond command index/ it's missing, indeed I wonder, after the introduction of repeating pitches and chords with a simple duration in 2.19.1(?), if there is good reason to keep this command!? It's different. For one thing, it's chord-only, so it helps in situations like { \partial 8 g8 | c' e' g' 4 r8 g c' e' g'4 r8 g | c' e' g'1 | } In particular the Oom-pah kind of alternating basses accompaniment used with accordions and also in a number of basic piano styles (like ragtime) benefit (it makes it quite easier to recognize in the input that the interspersed chords remain identical). { c g c' e' g, g c' e' ... For another, q carries forward articulations (and on demand, fingering, though this could be made less relevant when someone chooses to work on issue URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3662). The main incentive for doing the fascinating rhythm patch was not actually being able to simplify repeated pitches, but to have a representation for purely rhythmic material. Of course, with things like tamb 4. 8 4 4 there is a bit of overlap since it _starts_ with a pitch that is later repeated throughout the part. It's conceivable that if pure rhythms were present before chord repetitions, the latter would not have made it off the ground (even alternating basses can be written as { { c4 s g, s } { s g c' e' s4 4 } } if you really _must_). But the cat seems out of the bag far enough that there is no point in stuffing it back again. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
James, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:56 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :) Actually I would change that last sentence to read: There's a few things which are not documented in the Learning Manual. And this is a deliberate decision. If not, it's still a good decision. i realised my mistake almost as soon as i pressed send. the link i sent is to the NR and there's an amazing amount of information not covered in the LM. Correctly so. I don't see q as being needed in the Learning Manual as a good thing; apart from all the discussion how 'q' is a rather arbitrary 'command' - why 'q'? what does 'q' stand for etc., not knowing q doesn't lose you any functionality (i.e. there is nothing that q does that you cannot already do with the 'correct' syntax) but there are limitations using q - which are/should be documented in the Notation Reference. two i can think of: - it can't be quoted (at least i haven't found the correct event to quote yet) - it can't be altered with relative octave-switch commands As to the quote: there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :) That implies that we're missing things in the NR that shoudl be in there. If so then let the list know (lilypond-...@gnu.org) and that can be fixed. i remember looking for something fairly basic a while back and only finding it in the LM. at the time, i decided that it deserves to be in the LM and may not really be needed in the NR. however, for the life of me, i cannot remember what it was i was looking for. :) if i come across it again, i'll shout. ;) regards, sb -- Do not meddle in the affairs of trombonists, for they are subtle and quick to anger. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 01:36 -0800, Eluze wrote: Richard Shann-2 wrote [...] I noticed the mysterious synatx q that appears. I tried looking this up in the two indices without success. [...] I wonder what exactly it is all about and why I can't find it documented... searching for the *word* q would help: one place you'll find it is /E. LilyPond index/ , but in /D. LilyPond command index/ it's missing, indeed ??? I tried both indices, clicked on the alphabetical Q link and got a list which doesn't include q, what else could I do? Richard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes: James, On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 10:56 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote: there's a few things which are only documented in the learning manual. :) Actually I would change that last sentence to read: There's a few things which are not documented in the Learning Manual. And this is a deliberate decision. If not, it's still a good decision. i realised my mistake almost as soon as i pressed send. the link i sent is to the NR and there's an amazing amount of information not covered in the LM. Correctly so. I don't see q as being needed in the Learning Manual as a good thing; apart from all the discussion how 'q' is a rather arbitrary 'command' - why 'q'? what does 'q' stand for etc., not knowing q doesn't lose you any functionality (i.e. there is nothing that q does that you cannot already do with the 'correct' syntax) but there are limitations using q - which are/should be documented in the Notation Reference. two i can think of: - it can't be quoted (at least i haven't found the correct event to quote yet) I think that this will be fixed as a side effect of URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3810. - it can't be altered with relative octave-switch commands Well, it would be so weird behavior in a \relative section that I'm actually glad about that. Why would you even want to do that? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes: [ q ] two i can think of: - it can't be quoted (at least i haven't found the correct event to quote yet) I think that this will be fixed as a side effect of URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3810. and of course, you can always call \chordRepeats explicitly on the music you want to quote. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Just confirming that installing from a fresh MacPorts works perfectly. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:44 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Simon Bailey si...@bailey.at writes: two i can think of: - it can't be quoted (at least i haven't found the correct event to quote yet) I think that this will be fixed as a side effect of URL:http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3810. cool. i _really_ like the new rhythm syntax. :) and of course, you can always call \chordRepeats explicitly on the music you want to quote. first time i've heard about that function. :) yes, it's in the documentation, but only as a way to repeat event types on chords -- doesn't explicitly state that it would expand q to become the chords in music expressions [but makes sense if you think outside of the box a bit]. - it can't be altered with relative octave-switch commands Well, it would be so weird behavior in a \relative section that I'm actually glad about that. Why would you even want to do that? in the piano music i've been typesetting over the last few months, i've come across a lot of chords that jump around in octaves -- being able to octave a chord repetition would sometimes be handy. a very trivial example: %%% SNIPSNAP %%% \new PianoStaff \new Staff = up \relative c' { d fis a2 d' fis a2 } \new Staff = down \relative c { \clef bass d d,2 d, d,2 } } %%% SNAPSNIP %%% could conceivably be written as: %%% SNIPSNAP %%% \new PianoStaff \new Staff = up \relative c' { d fis a2 q' } \new Staff = down \relative c { \clef bass d d,2 q, } } %%% SNAPSNIP %%% may or may not be a fringe case. regards, sb -- Do not meddle in the affairs of trombonists, for they are subtle and quick to anger. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Am 2014-01-24 um 16:11 schrieb Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.com: Dear Hraban, 2014/1/24 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net: - If I start the program by opening a .ly file, Frescobaldi starts, but the file doesn’t open. There was this problem in previous versions, but it should be solved in 2.0.13: on my machine I can either open a file with Open with... Frescobaldi or double click on a file associated with Frescobaldi or drag and drop the file over Frescobaldi's icon in the dock and Frescobaldi starts correctly and opens the file. What happens exactly? What is the version you are using? Are you using the application bundle created by MacPorts? If Frescobaldi already runs and I doubleclick a .ly file, it opens correctly. But if FB is not yet running, it just starts, but doesn’t open the file. The FB icon in Finder doesn’t accept any files, just in the dock. But if the app isn’t running, dragging on the dock icon just brings FB to front. I use today’s MacPorts dev version on OSX 10.9. Maybe these lines in the system log are related, I get them with every try to open: 24.01.14 17:19:03,384 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31909]) Exited with code: 2 24.01.14 17:19:03,385 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31913]) open(/opt/local/var/log/rsyncd.log, ...): 2: No such file or directory 24.01.14 17:19:03,401 rsyncd[31915]: rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at clientserver.c(1056) [Receiver=3.0.9] 24.01.14 17:19:12,954 Finder[425]: [QL] Can't get plugin bundle info at file:///Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/SourceCode.qlgenerator/ Greetlings, Hraban --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Am 2014-01-24 um 15:54 schrieb Jacques Menu jacques.m...@tvtmail.ch: Hello Hraban, I found that one: Ctrl-left/right arrow move the cursor to the beginning or end of the current line. On my machine these are set as „move one workspace to left/right“. Unfortunately you can’t re-map those keys, just disable. But since I can address the spaces also with ^1 ^2 ^3, disabling is feasible. Thank you for the hint! But I would appreciate default Mac editing keys in Frescobaldi anyway. Greetlings, Hraban --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Shape of individual ties in chords
Richard Shann-2 wrote searching for the *word* q would help: ??? I tried both indices, clicked on the alphabetical Q link and got a list which doesn't include q, what else could I do? see above Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Shape-of-individual-ties-in-chords-tp158120p158410.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Looking for work arround for partcombine's known issue
Hi, I'm working with partcombine and don't know how to solve an 'unterminated slur' issue. I suppose this is the known issue that is described in the manual: '\partcombine keeps all spanners (slurs, ties, hairpins etc.) in the same Voice so that if any such spanners start or end in a different Voice, they may not be printed properly or at all.' But is there a work around for this? See my minimal example showing the problem, Greetings Ed \version 2.18.0 musicI = { e''2( a'2) } musicII = { e'2( \partcombineApart a'2) } \markup { Partcombine is not showing slurs: warning: unterminated slur} { \partcombine \musicI \musicII } ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Horizontal TupletBrackets?
Hi List, is there a way to have all TupletBrackets in a score be horizontal without altering every single one? See this example – first bar is the default, second bar is how I’d like to have it all through the score, but without overriding every one. \version 2.19.0 \new DrumVoice { \drummode { \voiceOne \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 4) \tuplet 3/2 { hh sn4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 \once \override TupletBracket.positions = #'(6.625 . 6.625) hh sn4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 cymr4 cymr8 } } } In a drum score I think it’s preferable to have all Beams and TupletBrackets horizontal as this helps with reading. For Beams there is the possibility of \override Beam.damping = #+inf.0, but I can’t find anything similar for TupletBrackets. I’d appreciate any help! -- Peter Crighton | Musician Music Engraver based in Mainz, Germany http://www.petercrighton.de ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
vertical position of secondary beams
Hi list, sorry to ask something which could be looked up in the docs. But I've struggled so far to achieve the attached result and can't seem to get my mind clear anymore to find the solution :-( All non-standard stuff is just as I want it except one: The secondary beam at the last (the smaller) bes should be closer to the main beam in order _not_ to clash with the thicker beam. So which grob and which property do I have to override to move that beamlet? TIA Urs attachment: schoenberg-2.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Dear Hraban, 2014/1/24 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.net: Am 2014-01-24 um 16:11 schrieb Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.com: What happens exactly? What is the version you are using? Are you using the application bundle created by MacPorts? If Frescobaldi already runs and I doubleclick a .ly file, it opens correctly. But if FB is not yet running, it just starts, but doesn’t open the file. The FB icon in Finder doesn’t accept any files, just in the dock. But if the app isn’t running, dragging on the dock icon just brings FB to front. Your description is very similar to what used to happen. So either 10.9 needs something else to solve the problem or you are using an old application bundle. I understand that you say I use today’s MacPorts dev version on OSX 10.9. but are you sure that the Frescobaldi application bundle you are using is the one provided by current MacPorts and not a previous application bundle (maybe created with the previous installation instructions or with your initial version of the py2app setup file)? If you enter the following line in the Terminal, does Frescobaldi open the file? open -a /Applications/MacPorts/Frescobaldi.app /path/to/file.ly Maybe these lines in the system log are related, I get them with every try to open: 24.01.14 17:19:03,384 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31909]) Exited with code: 2 24.01.14 17:19:03,385 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31913]) open(/opt/local/var/log/rsyncd.log, ...): 2: No such file or directory 24.01.14 17:19:03,401 rsyncd[31915]: rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at clientserver.c(1056) [Receiver=3.0.9] 24.01.14 17:19:12,954 Finder[425]: [QL] Can't get plugin bundle info at file:///Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/SourceCode.qlgenerator/ I don't get these errors on my machine, and I don't know what could cause them. Frescobaldi/MacPorts users: can you please report how does Frescobaldi behave on your system? Here is what should happen (and happens on my 10.6 machine and on a 10.8 machine I can access sometimes): if you either - drag and drop a ly file (or any text file, for what is worth) over the icon of Frescobaldi in the Dock, or - right-click on a ly file and choose Open with... Frescobaldi ([version]), or - double-click on a ly file associated with Frescobaldi (to associate a file: right-click on the file, choose Get Info and choose Frescobaldi ([version]) in the Open with... dropdown list), then Frescobaldi should start, if it is not already running, and open the file. Please, test the latest version (sudo port selfupdate, sudo port upgrade outdated) and tell us also the version of Mac OS X. Best wishes. Davide ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Looking for work arround for partcombine's known issue
Ed Gordijn ed.klarinet at gmail.com writes: musicI = { e''2( a'2) } musicII = { e'2( \partcombineApart a'2) } { \partcombine \musicI \musicII } You can print the slurs separately musicI = { e''2( a'2) } musicII = {\partcombineApart e'2( a'2) } or together musicI = { e''2( a'2) } musicII = { e'2( a'2) } Maybe this is not really an 'issue' at all. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Looking for work arround for partcombine's known issue
Hi Keith, musicI = { e''2( a'2) } musicII = { e'2( \partcombineApart a'2) } { \partcombine \musicI \musicII } You can print the slurs separately musicI = { e''2( a'2) } musicII = {\partcombineApart e'2( a'2) } or together musicI = { e''2( a'2) } musicII = { e'2( a'2) } Maybe this is not really an 'issue' at all. If you move the \partcombineApart before the start of the slur then you are right and there is no issue. But, if I understand it correctly,that is because the slur then starts and ends in the same voice. The thing is that I want it to look like the included figure. So the e' e'' as a chord and the a' with two stems. Greetings, Ed attachment: partcombine.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: vertical position of secondary beams
Hi Urs, 2014/1/24 Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org: All non-standard stuff is just as I want it except one: The secondary beam at the last (the smaller) bes should be closer to the main beam in order _not_ to clash with the thicker beam. So which grob and which property do I have to override to move that beamlet? \override Beam #'length-fraction = #0.5 Small wonder you couldn't find it... I don't know who chose this name, but it's definitely nuts! Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Web site manual search defaulting to 2.17
On 23/01/2014 4:24 PM, Federico Bruni wrote: 2014/1/23 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net mailto:nick.pa...@internode.on.net Using the search box at top right on the LP web site is searching the 2.17 rather than the 2.18 manuals. e.g. The search submitted to google is: https://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Searchbrute_query=bar+engraverq=site%3Alilypond.org%2Fdoc%2Fv2.17+bar+engraver Shouldn't the default search be the current stable version? There's an issue already: https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2909 I think that it's just a matter of waiting for google to reindex the pages. No, it's not a matter of waiting for Google to reindex pages. The parameters being passed to Google search by the LP web site include site:lilypond.org/doc/2.17, which limits the search to the manuals for 2.17. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Web site manual search defaulting to 2.17
Il 24/gen/2014 22:04 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net ha scritto: On 23/01/2014 4:24 PM, Federico Bruni wrote: 2014/1/23 Nick Payne nick.pa...@internode.on.net Using the search box at top right on the LP web site is searching the 2.17 rather than the 2.18 manuals. e.g. The search submitted to google is: https://www.google.com/search?btnG=Google+Searchbrute_query=bar+engraverq=site%3Alilypond.org%2Fdoc%2Fv2.17+bar+engraver Shouldn't the default search be the current stable version? There's an issue already: https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2909 I think that it's just a matter of waiting for google to reindex the pages. No, it's not a matter of waiting for Google to reindex pages. The parameters being passed to Google search by the LP web site include site: lilypond.org/doc/2.17, which limits the search to the manuals for 2.17. You cut a relevant part of my e-mail ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Dear Davide, I am using the latest MacPorts installation under MacOS 10.8.4., with the latest stable LilyPond. I am experiencing variable results. When I drag a lilytst.lyhttp://lilytst.ly file (as saved by LilyPond) to the Frescobaldi icon in the dock, Frescobaldi opens and loads the file, but does not automatically call LilyPond. When I manually execute LilyPond, it runs to completion and the log displays in Frescobaldi, but there is no display in the Music View. Same if I load the file into Frescobaldi via the File/Open dialog. However, if I open Frescobaldi empty, and load another .ly file (e.g. lilyJAZZ-testing.lyhttp://lilyJAZZ-testing.ly, it compiles and displays in the Music View window. Hope this helps. I see no errors in the logs. Regards, Steve From: Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.commailto:davide.lie...@gmail.com Subject: Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update Date: January 24, 2014 10:20:41 AM PST To: Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.netmailto:lilypon...@fiee.net Cc: LilyPond lilypond-user@gnu.orgmailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org lilypond-user@gnu.orgmailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org Dear Hraban, 2014/1/24 Henning Hraban Ramm lilypon...@fiee.netmailto:lilypon...@fiee.net: Am 2014-01-24 um 16:11 schrieb Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.commailto:davide.lie...@gmail.com: What happens exactly? What is the version you are using? Are you using the application bundle created by MacPorts? If Frescobaldi already runs and I doubleclick a .ly file, it opens correctly. But if FB is not yet running, it just starts, but doesn’t open the file. The FB icon in Finder doesn’t accept any files, just in the dock. But if the app isn’t running, dragging on the dock icon just brings FB to front. Your description is very similar to what used to happen. So either 10.9 needs something else to solve the problem or you are using an old application bundle. I understand that you say I use today’s MacPorts dev version on OSX 10.9. but are you sure that the Frescobaldi application bundle you are using is the one provided by current MacPorts and not a previous application bundle (maybe created with the previous installation instructions or with your initial version of the py2app setup file)? If you enter the following line in the Terminal, does Frescobaldi open the file? open -a /Applications/MacPorts/Frescobaldi.app /path/to/file.lyhttp://file.ly/ Maybe these lines in the system log are related, I get them with every try to open: 24.01.14 17:19:03,384 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31909]) Exited with code: 2 24.01.14 17:19:03,385 com.apple.launchd[1]: (org.macports.rsyncd[31913]) open(/opt/local/var/log/rsyncd.log, ...): 2: No such file or directory 24.01.14 17:19:03,401 rsyncd[31915]: rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at clientserver.c(1056) [Receiver=3.0.9] 24.01.14 17:19:12,954 Finder[425]: [QL] Can't get plugin bundle info atfile:///Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Library/QuickLook/SourceCode.qlgenerator/ I don't get these errors on my machine, and I don't know what could cause them. Frescobaldi/MacPorts users: can you please report how does Frescobaldi behave on your system? Here is what should happen (and happens on my 10.6 machine and on a 10.8 machine I can access sometimes): if you either - drag and drop a ly file (or any text file, for what is worth) over the icon of Frescobaldi in the Dock, or - right-click on a ly file and choose Open with... Frescobaldi ([version]), or - double-click on a ly file associated with Frescobaldi (to associate a file: right-click on the file, choose Get Info and choose Frescobaldi ([version]) in the Open with... dropdown list), then Frescobaldi should start, if it is not already running, and open the file. Please, test the latest version (sudo port selfupdate, sudo port upgrade outdated) and tell us also the version of Mac OS X. Best wishes. Davide ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how close are we to having an addAt or insertAt feature?
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org writes: For better or worse, I am currently focusing on speeding up git blame which is braking down lots of people. Excellent! If you want a test case from the dark side, try http://repo.or.cz/w/wortliste.git Wrong URL, needs a /r/ in the middle rather than /w/. For historical reasons, the `wortliste' is a single, large file instead of smaller ones. No need. Got src/xdisp.c from Emacs. That takes about 2 minutes for me right now. 3, actually. Looking at the code and where the profiling shows the bulk of time being spent, I'd hope to be able to shave off at least 98% or so. We'll see. Bah. Got only 50% off, and a third of the rest is system time. At least an artificial test case went from 40 seconds to 2, but that is only a 95% reduction, so still a far cry from what I fantasized. And the wortliste still takes more than 6 minutes on my computer: dak@lola:/usr/local/tmp/wortliste$ time ../git/git blame wortliste /dev/null real6m18.501s user3m58.104s sys 2m17.880s This does not really look useful yet. I might have to look in git's core diff mechanism to get a better return of investment. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how close are we to having an addAt or insertAt feature?
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes: Bah. Got only 50% off, and a third of the rest is system time. At least an artificial test case went from 40 seconds to 2, but that is only a 95% reduction, so still a far cry from what I fantasized. And the wortliste still takes more than 6 minutes on my computer: dak@lola:/usr/local/tmp/wortliste$ time ../git/git blame wortliste /dev/null real 6m18.501s user 3m58.104s sys 2m17.880s Which is not even a factor of 3 as compared to previously: dak@lola:/usr/local/tmp/wortliste$ time git blame wortliste /dev/null real18m28.269s user15m54.080s sys 2m27.760s -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Beam height
Is this a bug? I would expect for the beams to all line up with the first. They do if you take it down an octave. \version 2.19.1 {\relative c' {\repeat unfold 4 { es16 fes ges es }}} ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Davide Liessi-2 wrote Frescobaldi/MacPorts users: can you please report how does Frescobaldi behave on your system? Here is what should happen (and happens on my 10.6 machine and on a 10.8 machine I can access sometimes): if you either - drag and drop a ly file (or any text file, for what is worth) over the icon of Frescobaldi in the Dock, or - right-click on a ly file and choose Open with... Frescobaldi ([version]), or - double-click on a ly file associated with Frescobaldi, then Frescobaldi should start, if it is not already running, and open the file. All of these work for me (as well as dragging it onto the icon in the Finder) on OSX 10.9.1 with: Frescobaldi: 2.0.13 Python: 2.7.6 Qt: 4.8.5 PyQt4: 4.10.3 sip: 4.15.3 Operating System: Darwin-13.0.0-x86_64-i386-64bit -Paul -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/frescobaldi-macports-broken-after-update-tp158147p158429.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Looking for work arround for partcombine's known issue
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:16:02 -0800, Ed Gordijn ed.klari...@gmail.com wrote: So the e' e'' as a chord and the a' with two stems. I don't see any way to have \partcombine do that, but you could force the lower e to have a stem up and line up with the upper note. This almost looks like a chord. (If the overrides are inconsistent with how you want the individual parts to look, you can use the \removeWithTag feature.) musicI = { e''2( a'2) } musicII = {\partcombineApart \once\stemUp \once\override NoteColumn #'ignore-collision =##t e'2( a'2) } \partcombine \musicI \musicII ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Beam height
Alex, Don't know if it is a bug. The beam in the first set is higher to make room for the accidentals. Remove the accidentals and the beams line up. Mark From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Alex Loomis Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 6:34 PM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Beam height Is this a bug? I would expect for the beams to all line up with the first. They do if you take it down an octave. \version 2.19.1 {\relative c' {\repeat unfold 4 { es16 fes ges es }}} ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how close are we to having an addAt or insertAt feature?
And the wortliste still takes more than 6 minutes on my computer: Which is not even a factor of 3 as compared to previously: But even that is an large improvement. It's now unbearable and no longer unusable :-) Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Davide Liessi-2 wrote Frescobaldi/MacPorts users: can you please report how does Frescobaldi behave on your system? Here is what should happen (and happens on my 10.6 machine and on a 10.8 machine I can access sometimes): if you either - drag and drop a ly file (or any text file, for what is worth) over the icon of Frescobaldi in the Dock, or - right-click on a ly file and choose Open with... Frescobaldi ([version]), or - double-click on a ly file associated with Frescobaldi, then Frescobaldi should start, if it is not already running, and open the file. With all the latest updates, all file opening situations work only is Frrescobaldi is already launched. If double-clicked, right-click etc. on the file with Frescobaldi not yet running, it opens Frescobaldi but not the file. Philippe ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Am 2014-01-25 um 07:21 schrieb Steve Noland st...@thenolands.us: Dear Davide, I am using the latest MacPorts installation under MacOS 10.8.4., with the latest stable LilyPond. I am experiencing variable results. When I drag a lilytst.ly file (as saved by LilyPond) to the Frescobaldi icon in the dock, Frescobaldi opens and loads the file, but does not automatically call LilyPond. FB is not supposed to run LilyPond automatically at start. When I manually execute LilyPond, it runs to completion and the log displays in Frescobaldi, but there is no display in the Music View. Same if I load the file into Frescobaldi via the File/Open dialog. However, if I open Frescobaldi empty, and load another .ly file (e.g. lilyJAZZ-testing.ly, it compiles and displays in the Music View window. This is a different error, related to the poppler library and QT4. The PDF view should work again if you re-install (or even just update all outdated ports). Greetlings, Hraban --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Am 2014-01-25 um 00:20 schrieb Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.com: Dear Davide, thank you for your effort! If Frescobaldi already runs and I doubleclick a .ly file, it opens correctly. But if FB is not yet running, it just starts, but doesn’t open the file. Your description is very similar to what used to happen. So either 10.9 needs something else to solve the problem or you are using an old application bundle. No, I checked. Just uninstalled frescobaldi-devel, there was no application bundle left. Cleaned the port and re-installed. If you enter the following line in the Terminal, does Frescobaldi open the file? open -a /Applications/MacPorts/Frescobaldi.app /path/to/file.ly No, it doesn’t - it starts but doesn’t open the file, as before. If FB is already running, it works. A quick googling reveals no known argv emulation issues on Mavericks. Greetlings, Hraban --- fiëé visuëlle Henning Hraban Ramm http://www.fiee.net http://angerweit.tikon.ch/lieder/ https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Looking for work arround for partcombine's known issue
On 24-01-14 21:16, Ed Gordijn wrote: Hi Keith, musicI = { e''2( a'2) } musicII = { e'2( \partcombineApart a'2) } { \partcombine \musicI \musicII } The thing is that I want it to look like the included figure. So the e' e'' as a chord and the a' with two stems. And now with the correct figure! Greetings, Ed attachment: partcombine.png___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Beam height
2014/1/25 Alex Loomis thebluemusic...@gmail.com: Is this a bug? I would expect for the beams to all line up with the first. They do if you take it down an octave. \version 2.19.1 {\relative c' {\repeat unfold 4 { es16 fes ges es }}} As Mark wrote, this is because of accidentals, but you are right that the beam shouldn't look like this. It's a defect in beam collision detecting algorithm. Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user