Re:Lilypond for blind musicians
On Thu, 13 Feb 2014, Marc Sabatella wrote: ABC worked pretty well for us. LilyPond would have worked just as well I'm sure; I just thought ABC would be easier for my student to learn. If you've already invested some effort in learning LilyPond and feel comfortable with it, that's great - it shouldn't be that hard to figure out a way to get this running with or without a GUI. One other advantage of ABC is that there are abc/musicxml converters (abc2xml, xml2abc) available that both work reasonably well already today. These are available as separate commandline tools, but also integrated in EasyABC. -- MT ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond for blind musicians
Hi all! Thanks for your suggestions! Could you please give mee an example of how to create a lilypond file from a midi file? I've read the page Federico suggested but it's a bit complicated for mee. So, if I'm right, I would write, for example: midi2ly thenb the name of my midi file. But I don't understand in what directory have I to be for this operation! Have I to specify a name for my converted file? Sorry for all my questions, guys! Thanks again for all your help! Bye for now. Claudio 2014-02-13 23:02 GMT+01:00, Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: 2014-02-13 13:46 GMT+01:00 Claudio Garanzini claudiogaranz...@gmail.com: Hi all! I have some little questiosn for you guys: Are there any blind musician or composer that'' use lilypond regularly? I think there are a few in this list. It would be nice if they shared their experience here so we might add some tips to the documentation. Is there a software like Frescobaldi but more accessible using NVDA as my default screen reader? I've tryed Frescobaldi but simply can't use it because of it's complete inaccessibility, at least for me. I don't have any experience in this subject and I don't know how Frescobaldi could be improved to work better on a screen reader. I don't even know if it can work fine with any screen reader or operating system. You may try asking on frescobaldi group or opening an issue in the tracker: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/frescobaldi https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/issues?state=open Have you ever considered trying Linux? Here you can find some information on Orca, the default screen reader of the Gnome desktop: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions You may first try a live cd, to test it without installing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD Could you tell mee how to use midi2ly converter? Have I to put it in my midi folder for its use? You should use the command line. Please read this page and let us know if you have any problem: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/invoking-midi2ly ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Overriding staff-padding for MeasureCounter fails
Hi,
I tried to align the numbers of the MeasureCounter engraver but the
override doesn't have effect. Is this a bug or am I doing something
wrong here?
Greetings, Ed
\version 2.18.0
{
\override Staff.MeasureCounter.staff-padding = #4
\startMeasureCount
\repeat percent 4 { g''4 g'' g'' g'' }
\stopMeasureCount
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\consists #Measure_counter_engraver
% \override MeasureCounter.staff-padding = #4 % doesn't work either
}
}
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Re: Lilypond for blind musicians
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, claudio garanzini wrote: Hi all! Thanks for your suggestions! Could you please give mee an example of how to create a lilypond file from a midi file? I've read the page Federico suggested but it's a bit complicated for mee. So, if I'm right, I would write, for example: midi2ly thenb the name of my midi file. But I don't understand in what directory have I to be for this operation! midi2ly should be in a directory that is listed in your system's PATH environment variable. Then it will always be found wherever you are. (I am not a Windows user. Does the LilyPond installer for Windows take care of this automatically?) your source file can be anywhere if you call it with a complete pathname, but easiest is when it is in your current directory where you can call it with just the filename. Even without .ly it will work. you can provide an output name with the -o option If you don't use the -o option, midi2ly will automatically generate a destination filename from the source file. BTW: the most important commandline option to start with is probably -h. Try midi2ly -h -- MT ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond for blind musicians
- Original Message - From: Martin Tarenskeen m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl To: lilypond-user mailinglist lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 11:14 AM Subject: Re: Lilypond for blind musicians On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, claudio garanzini wrote: Hi all! Thanks for your suggestions! Could you please give mee an example of how to create a lilypond file from a midi file? I've read the page Federico suggested but it's a bit complicated for mee. So, if I'm right, I would write, for example: midi2ly thenb the name of my midi file. But I don't understand in what directory have I to be for this operation! midi2ly should be in a directory that is listed in your system's PATH environment variable. Then it will always be found wherever you are. (I am not a Windows user. Does the LilyPond installer for Windows take care of this automatically?) No - it used to, but this caused problems for users with multiple versions. your source file can be anywhere if you call it with a complete pathname, but easiest is when it is in your current directory where you can call it with just the filename. Even without .ly it will work. you can provide an output name with the -o option If you don't use the -o option, midi2ly will automatically generate a destination filename from the source file. BTW: the most important commandline option to start with is probably -h. Try midi2ly -h c:\Program Files (x86)\LilyPond\usr\bin\midi2ly is likely to be the correct command line on a standatd windows install -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond for blind musicians
Hi all! Just to let you know that midi2ly seems not to work for mee. When I try to invoche it I have a message saying midi2ly is not a valid command or an executable a batch file. If someone uses windows7 and would like to help mee Thanks a lot. Bye for now! -Messaggio originale- From: Martin Tarenskeen Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:13 PM To: claudio garanzini Subject: Re: Lilypond for blind musicians On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, claudio garanzini wrote: Hi all! Thanks for your suggestions! Could you please give mee an example of how to create a lilypond file from a midi file? I've read the page Federico suggested but it's a bit complicated for mee. So, if I'm right, I would write, for example: midi2ly thenb the name of my midi file. But I don't understand in what directory have I to be for this operation! midi2ly should be in a directory that is listed in your system's PATH environment variable. Then it will always be found wherever you are. (I am not a Windows user. Does the LilyPond installer for Windows take care of this automatically?) your source file can be anywhere if you call it with a complete pathname, but easiest is when it is in your current directory where you can call it with just the filename. Even without .ly it will work. you can provide an output name with the -o option If you don't use the -o option, midi2ly will automatically generate a destination filename from the source file. BTW: the most important commandline option to start with is probably -h. Try midi2ly -h -- MT ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond for blind musicians
- Original Message - From: Claudio Garanzini claudiogaranz...@gmail.com To: lilypond lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 12:21 PM Subject: Re: Lilypond for blind musicians Hi all! Just to let you know that midi2ly seems not to work for mee. When I try to invoche it I have a message saying midi2ly is not a valid command or an executable a batch file. If someone uses windows7 and would like to help mee Thanks a lot. Bye for now! Have you seen my earlier reply with a longer command line pointing to midi2ly? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Overriding staff-padding for MeasureCounter fails
Hi,
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Ed Gordijn ed.klari...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I tried to align the numbers of the MeasureCounter engraver but the
override doesn't have effect. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong
here?
Greetings, Ed
\version 2.18.0
{
\override Staff.MeasureCounter.staff-padding = #4
\startMeasureCount
\repeat percent 4 { g''4 g'' g'' g'' }
\stopMeasureCount
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\consists #Measure_counter_engraver
% \override MeasureCounter.staff-padding = #4 % doesn't work either
}
}
Huh--that's strange. This will involve some investigation to get at the
cause, determine if there's a bug.
Anyway, overriding outside-staff-padding instead should give you what you
want:
\override Staff.MeasureCounter.outside-staff-padding = #4
HTH,
David
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Re: Ottava
Hi Joram,
Text positioning:
- \super does not look good, therefore \raise
- the raise value of 0.7 depends on the font, is there a way to align
the top boundaries of the 8 and the va?
If you want it completely independent of the font I think you could use
this:
\version 2.18.0
#(define-markup-command (TopAlign layout props arg)
(markup?)
(let* ((mol (interpret-markup layout props arg)))
(ly:stencil-aligned-to mol Y 1)))
\markup \huge \bold \concat {\TopAlign 8 \TopAlign \tiny va}
Greetings, Ed
\version 2.18.0
#(define-markup-command (TopAlign layout props arg)
(markup?)
(let* ((mol (interpret-markup layout props arg)))
(ly:stencil-aligned-to mol Y 1)))
ottavaa = {
\ottava 1
\set Staff.ottavation = \markup \bold \concat {\TopAlign 8 \tiny \TopAlign
va }
}
ottavab = {
\ottava -1
\set Staff.ottavation = \markup \bold \concat{ 8 \tiny vb }
}
ottavac = {
\ottava 2
\set Staff.ottavation = \markup \bold \concat{\TopAlign 15 \tiny \TopAlign
ma }
}
ottavad = {
\ottava -2
\set Staff.ottavation = \markup \bold \concat{ 15 \tiny mb }
}
ottavae = {
\ottava 3
\set Staff.ottavation = \markup \bold \concat{\TopAlign 22 \tiny \TopAlign
ma }
}
\new Staff \relative c''' {
\ottava #1 a a
\ottava #-1 a,, a
\ottava #2 a''' a
\ottava #-2 a a
\ottava #3 a' a
}
\new Staff \relative c''' {
\ottavaa a a
\ottavab a,, a
\ottavac a''' a
\ottavad a a
\ottavae a' a
}
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Re: Overriding staff-padding for MeasureCounter fails
Hi David,
Huh--that's strange. This will involve some investigation to get at
the cause, determine if there's a bug.
Anyway, overriding outside-staff-padding instead should give you what
you want:
\override Staff.MeasureCounter.outside-staff-padding = #4
This has effect but the numbers don't align. The padding is relative to
the notes as well.
Greetings, Ed
attachment: bug measurecounter.png\version 2.18.0
{
%\override Staff.MeasureCounter.staff-padding = #4 doesn't work
\override Staff.MeasureCounter.outside-staff-padding = #2
% \override Staff.MeasureCounter.count-from = #2 %this works
\startMeasureCount
\repeat percent 4 { g''4 g'' g'' g'' }
\stopMeasureCount
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\consists #Measure_counter_engraver
% \override MeasureCounter.staff-padding = #4 % doesn't work either
}
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Re: Overriding staff-padding for MeasureCounter fails
Hi Ed,
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:05 AM, Ed Gordijn ed.klari...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David,
Huh--that's strange. This will involve some investigation to get at the
cause, determine if there's a bug.
Anyway, overriding outside-staff-padding instead should give you what you
want:
\override Staff.MeasureCounter.outside-staff-padding = #4
This has effect but the numbers don't align. The padding is relative to
the notes as well.
True. In that case your best bet its to use a Dynamics context:
\version 2.18.0
\layout {
\context {
\Dynamics
\consists #Measure_counter_engraver
% to control the distance of the Dynamics context from the staff:
\override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing.padding = #4
}
}
\new Dynamics {
\startMeasureCount
s1*4
\stopMeasureCount
}
\new Staff {
\repeat percent 4 { g''4 g'' g'' g'' }
}
(Based on Centered measure numbers
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/repeats)
--David
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Re: \context \voice override previous \context voice
MING TSANG wrote
I try to combine two includes into one and I encounter the last \context
\voice override previous \context \voice.
that's expected behavior.
I am expecting soprano voice has EzNum encoded and alto voice has EzSol
encoded. Is is feasible to do this in lilypond?
you can use a specific engraver in each voice with
\new Voice = sop \with { \consists \Ez_numbers-engraver }
Eluze
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Re: \context \voice override previous \context voice
MING TSANG wrote
I try to combine two includes into one and I encounter the last \context
\voice override previous \context \voice. that's expected behavior. I
am expecting soprano voice has EzNum encoded and alto voice has EzSol
encoded. Is is feasible to do this in lilypond? you can use a specific
engraver in each voice with \new Voice = sop \with { \consists
\Ez_numbers-engraver } Eluze
It works. Thank you Eluze.
Is it possible to combine the 2 Ez-number-engraver % Ez_solfege-engraver into
one?
Emmanuel,
Ming.
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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 135, Issue 60
Hey David, -danti-alias-factor looks great - thanks for the suggestion - but I believe it won't work for (extremely) large, transparent images... Unless Ghostscript is called with the option -dMaxBitmap=2147483647 (or similar) from within LilyPond. The reason is that without that option set, Ghostscript will revert to the png16m device (rather than the pngalpha device) for extremely large images, presumably because of memory reasons... and with png16m instead of pngalpha I will loose the transparency, which I don't want to... If Ghostscript was run with this dMaxBitmap option automatically, then I think it would work, or if I was able to specify this option somehow during lilypond runtime? Is that possible? Cheers, Erik PS: Pasting the previous discussion regarding GS / pngalpha / png16m for reference. Regarding how to create large, transparent scores: When the images you output are reasonably small, 'lilypond... --png ... -dpixmap-format=pngalpha ' successfully generates the transparent images. Once the images surpass a certain size however, transparency seems to fail, and the .png images come out with a white background. If you run the following lilypond command: 'lilypond --png -dresolution=100 -dpixmap-format=pngalpha --ps --verbose x.ly' and look at the bottom of the log, you can see the actual Ghostscript command called by Lilypond used to create the .png. It is going to look something like this: gs -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=37533.99 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=2160.00 -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -dTextAlphaBits=4 -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=pngalpha -sOutputFile=./x.png -r100 x.ps -c quit As you can see it is correctly using the device 'pngalpha' in order to generate the transparent image. The problem seems to be that - upon inspecting the logs - Ghostscript reverts to the device png16m instead, which is unable to generate a transparent image. The way to fix this is to tweak the memory usage options for Ghostscript, specifically by adding the option '-dMaxBitmap=2147483647' to the Ghostscript command, as in the following snippet: gs -dDEVICEWIDTHPOINTS=37533.99 -dDEVICEHEIGHTPOINTS=2160.00 -dMaxBitmap= 2147483647 -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -dTextAlphaBits=4 -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=pngalpha -sOutputFile=./x.png -r100 x.ps -c quit This allocates more memory to Ghostscript and makes it correctly use the pngalpha device, and thus correctly output a transparent image. If you have a 64 bit machine perhaps you can extend it further. It should also be possible to rebuild lilypond from source and compile it with this option baked in, but I haven't tried that Perhaps this information helps someone trying to create large, transparent images in LilyPond! On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:38 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Erik Linde erik.li...@gmail.com writes: Hey Chris / David, Adding the --png option when you run your lilypond command works fine (as David stated)... Also, you may want to set the -dresolution parameter to something high like 300 (DPI) to get a good resolution. Or even set it to 600, and then shrink it to 300DPI using some image processing software such as Photoshop or ImageMagick / GraphicMagick to achieve an even better anti-aliasing effect. Why would you do that manually rather than using the -danti-alias-factor=2 option? -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Horizontalized scores
2014-02-14 1:43 GMT+01:00 Chris Crossen ch...@crossen.net: What's wrong with lilypond --png here? I can't get good looking images from --png. I may not have found the right combination of parameters yet. I suggest to try strokeadjust option if you haven't already. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Horizontalized scores
From: Janek Warchoł [mailto:janek.lilyp...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 9:47 To: Chris Crossen Cc: David Kastrup; Chris Crossen; LilyPond Users Subject: Re: Horizontalized scores 2014-02-14 1:43 GMT+01:00 Chris Crossen ch...@crossen.net: What's wrong with lilypond --png here? I can't get good looking images from --png. I may not have found the right combination of parameters yet. I suggest to try strokeadjust option if you haven't already. Could someone suggest a good set of options for generating .png files that I can use as a starting point for experimentation? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Best practice for dynamics position on SATB hymn with chords
My usual layout when typesetting hymns is a ChoirStaff, with SA-TB voices, main lyrics printed between staves, ... I was wondering, what is the best practice for positioning the dynamics ? Above or below the staves ? Should them be printed only once for all the ChoirStaff, or for each staff? Gould says (p 465, under Choral writing): _Dynamics, expression marks and technical instructions_: place these above each individual stave so that each singer can see them immediately (avoid a single instruction above the top stave, as this will most certainly be overlooked). and (p 468): Two-stave SATB layout Place dynamics and expression marks above the treble stave and below the bass stave, to apply to both voices on each stave. Brian Barker Thank you for your detailed and documented answer. I guess the first case is for 4 staves choral layout, so the dynamics don't collide or interfere with lyrics. I was thinking of doing something similar to what is described in the second case. For the bass staff, I can place dynamics below, and hope it won't be a problem if there are some echo lyrics (that will go below the staff as well). For the treble staff, I was wondering, won't it be confusing, as there are chord names above it as well ? Would it be enough if I put dynamics only once below the ChoirStaff ? Yann ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Best practice for dynamics position on SATB hymn with chords
- Original Message - From: Yann yann@free.fr To: Lilypond-User Mailing List lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 6:16 PM Subject: Re: Best practice for dynamics position on SATB hymn with chords My usual layout when typesetting hymns is a ChoirStaff, with SA-TB voices, main lyrics printed between staves, ... I was wondering, what is the best practice for positioning the dynamics ? Above or below the staves ? Should them be printed only once for all the ChoirStaff, or for each staff? Gould says (p 465, under Choral writing): _Dynamics, expression marks and technical instructions_: place these above each individual stave so that each singer can see them immediately (avoid a single instruction above the top stave, as this will most certainly be overlooked). and (p 468): Two-stave SATB layout Place dynamics and expression marks above the treble stave and below the bass stave, to apply to both voices on each stave. Brian Barker Thank you for your detailed and documented answer. I guess the first case is for 4 staves choral layout, so the dynamics don't collide or interfere with lyrics. I was thinking of doing something similar to what is described in the second case. For the bass staff, I can place dynamics below, and hope it won't be a problem if there are some echo lyrics (that will go below the staff as well). For the treble staff, I was wondering, won't it be confusing, as there are chord names above it as well ? Would it be enough if I put dynamics only once below the ChoirStaff ? Yann Why are there chord names above the vocal score? As a singer, I would find that very unhelpful. Why not just lose them for the vocal part? -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Horizontalized scores
What's wrong with lilypond --png here? I can't get good looking images from --png. I may not have found the right combination of parameters yet. I suggest to try strokeadjust option if you haven't already. Could someone suggest a good set of options for generating .png files that I can use as a starting point for experimentation? I was quite happy with: lilypond --png -danti-alias-factor=10 -dresolution=300 file.ly An anti-alias-factor of 2 is not enough, IMHO. I don’t know other options. “strokeadjust” that Janek mentions is only documented for version 2.19 usage manual: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/usage/command_002dline-usage.html Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Lines and Ties and Slurs oh my!
Howdy! It is well known that Ties and Slurs are problematic in LilyPond 2.18.0. As can be seen by a simple example from my project Goldberg Variations for Guitar Ensemble variation 22 http://www.gooeytar.com/projects/BWV-988/test/test.orig.pdf Notice that Ties in bar 1 are different than Ties in bar 2 or bar 4 or bar 7. Termination of the Tie is not consistent. So first we need to ask the question: How should Ties be drawn? Specifically where should the Tie terminate relative to the notehead? Ties in bar 1 and bar 3 terminates at the inside upper corner of the notehead. Ties in bar 4 and 7, terminate above / below and in the middle of the notehead. Which is correct? My understanding is that the Ties in bar 1 and 3 are correct. Slurs should terminate in the middle of the note to distinguish between Ties. Is that the consensus with Lilypond users / dev? Is there a general fix for this across the broad section of examples? One solution is to use \shape to fix individual Ties. If I define a couple of macros * to fix ties in bar 4, 13 (TieDown_stemsUpUp) TDUUa = \shape #'((0.6 . 0.4)(0 . 0.6)(0 . 0.6)(-0.6 . 0.4)) Tie * to fix ties in bar 7 (TieUp_stemsDownDown) TUDDa = \shape #'((0.6 . -0.2)(0 . -0.3)(0 . -0.3)(-0.6 . -0.2)) Tie The results of the above can be seen here http://www.gooeytar.com/projects/BWV-988/test/test.pdf Are they correct now? Is there another better way to deal with this? It is certainly possible to go through the 100+ or so bad Ties manually and I expect that there are simple fixes like the above that will correct common categories of bad Ties; for example all Ties between notes that are on upper ledger lines with stems down are drawn incorrectly with termination in the middle of the notehead (like a slur). Some preliminary testing has led me to conclude that the same fix (like above) may typically fix the same situation regardless of the length of the Tie or the value of the notes Is there a way to integrate this heuristic into the main code so that most manual tweaking is not needed? Or is there another better approach that can be used for issue? thanx - steve ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Goldberg Variations for Guitar Ensemble
Howdy! As per Janek's suggestion, I would like to announce my LilyPond project, the transcription and engraving of J. S. Bach's Goldberg Variations BWV 988 for Guitar Ensemble. http://www.gooeytar.com/projects/BWV-988/ The basics are mostly finished, and what remains is the fixing up of a few lilypond issues, fixing ties etc or whatever suggestions for improvement this forum and its experience can provide. I have an idea of how to approach the issue of ties and will elaborate in another post. -steve ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Best practice for dynamics position on SATB hymn with chords
Why are there chord names above the vocal score? As a singer, I would find that very unhelpful. Why not just lose them for the vocal part? -- Phil Holmes This is for a hymn book project; the hymns are harmonised 4 voices, but a requirement is that chords should appear as well, so guitar players that are used to it can play an accompaniment for the assembly. So eventhough I produce a lead sheet (melody, lyrics and chords) as well, I think it is a good thing to have the chords also on the assembly score. Yann ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lines and Ties and Slurs oh my!
Am 14.02.2014 22:01, schrieb st...@linuxsuite.org: Howdy! It is well known that Ties and Slurs are problematic in LilyPond 2.18.0. As can be seen by a simple example from my project Goldberg Variations for Guitar Ensemble variation 22 http://www.gooeytar.com/projects/BWV-988/test/test.orig.pdf Notice that Ties in bar 1 are different than Ties in bar 2 or bar 4 or bar 7. Termination of the Tie is not consistent. So first we need to ask the question: How should Ties be drawn? Specifically where should the Tie terminate relative to the notehead? Ties in bar 1 and bar 3 terminates at the inside upper corner of the notehead. Ties in bar 4 and 7, terminate above / below and in the middle of the notehead. Which is correct? My understanding is that the Ties in bar 1 and 3 are correct. Slurs should terminate in the middle of the note to distinguish between Ties. Is that the consensus with Lilypond users / dev? Is there a general fix for this across the broad section of examples? One solution is to use \shape to fix individual Ties. If I define a couple of macros * to fix ties in bar 4, 13 (TieDown_stemsUpUp) TDUUa = \shape #'((0.6 . 0.4)(0 . 0.6)(0 . 0.6)(-0.6 . 0.4)) Tie * to fix ties in bar 7 (TieUp_stemsDownDown) TUDDa = \shape #'((0.6 . -0.2)(0 . -0.3)(0 . -0.3)(-0.6 . -0.2)) Tie The results of the above can be seen here http://www.gooeytar.com/projects/BWV-988/test/test.pdf Are they correct now? Is there another better way to deal with this? It is certainly possible to go through the 100+ or so bad Ties manually and I expect that there are simple fixes like the above that will correct common categories of bad Ties; for example all Ties between notes that are on upper ledger lines with stems down are drawn incorrectly with termination in the middle of the notehead (like a slur). Some preliminary testing has led me to conclude that the same fix (like above) may typically fix the same situation regardless of the length of the Tie or the value of the notes Is there a way to integrate this heuristic into the main code so that most manual tweaking is not needed? Or is there another better approach that can be used for issue? thanx - steve This is at least something: http://lilypondblog.org/2014/01/engraving-statistics-slurs-and-ties/ http://lilypondblog.org/2013/11/engraving-challenges-slurs-and-ties/ http://lilypondblog.org/2013/08/tie-crusade-round-2/ http://lilypondblog.org/2013/07/lilypond-tie-crusade/ HTH Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Urs Liska www.openlilylib.org ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Goldberg Variations for Guitar Ensemble
Steve this absolutely wonderfull news ! What a great job !! Many thanks for posting, Pierre 2014-02-14 20:52 GMT+01:00 st...@linuxsuite.org: Howdy! As per Janek's suggestion, I would like to announce my LilyPond project, the transcription and engraving of J. S. Bach's Goldberg Variations BWV 988 for Guitar Ensemble. http://www.gooeytar.com/projects/BWV-988/ The basics are mostly finished, and what remains is the fixing up of a few lilypond issues, fixing ties etc or whatever suggestions for improvement this forum and its experience can provide. I have an idea of how to approach the issue of ties and will elaborate in another post. -steve ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Updating proceeded normally and double-clicking a .ly file in the Finder launches Frescobaldi and loads the file, so that bug seems squashed. Unfortunately now I no longer have the side-by-side view of the .ly file and the .pdf file. I can’t for the life of me figure out how that happened or how to get it back. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Goldberg Variations for Guitar Ensemble
Am 14.02.2014 20:52, schrieb st...@linuxsuite.org: Howdy! As per Janek's suggestion, I would like to announce my LilyPond project, the transcription and engraving of J. S. Bach's Goldberg Variations BWV 988 for Guitar Ensemble. http://www.gooeytar.com/projects/BWV-988/ Hi Steve, that’s very nice. Depending on your personal taste, you might consider these tweaks for the octavated treble clefs: \override Staff.ClefModifier.extra-offset = #'(-0.3 . 0.07) \override Staff.ClefModifier.font-series = #'bold Cheers, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
Dear Tim, 2014-02-14 23:35 GMT+01:00 Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net: Unfortunately now I no longer have the side-by-side view of the .ly file and the .pdf file. I can’t for the life of me figure out how that happened or how to get it back. Maybe you just need to enable Music View in the Tools menu. However I don't know why it could have been deactivated. Let me know if you need further help. Best wishes. Davide ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lines and Ties and Slurs oh my!
steve-166 wrote Howdy! It is well known that Ties and Slurs are problematic in LilyPond 2.18.0. As can be seen by a simple example from my project Goldberg Variations for Guitar Ensemble variation 22 hi steve! can you please point to the problematic tie or slur directly in the sense of a tiny example!? thanks! Eluze -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Lines-and-Ties-and-Slurs-oh-my-tp159306p159315.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
warning: no heads for arpeggio found?
I compile the following lily code:
\version 2.19.2
left= \relative c''{ \clef treble a2.\arpeggio }
\new Staff = left \with {
} { \clef bass \left }
And I got warning message and no arpeggio shown on pdf.
Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.19.2 [test_no-head-arpeggio.ly]...
Processing
`C:/Users/Tsang/Dropbox/Lyndon/LiLy/jesus-love-you/test_no-head-arpeggio.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
C:/Users/Tsang/Dropbox/Lyndon/LiLy/jesus-love-you/test_no-head-arpeggio.ly:4:42:
warning: no heads for arpeggio found?
left= \relative c''{ \clef treble a2.
\arpeggio }
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to `test_no-head-arpeggio.ps'...
Converting to `./test_no-head-arpeggio.pdf'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
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Re: warning: no heads for arpeggio found?
Hi Ming, Arpeggios require chords. It is sufficient to make it a one-note chord: a2.\arpeggio Hope this helps! Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: combine codes
Hi Ming,
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:09 PM, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote:
As the sample from David Nalesnik that combine three set of variables into
one, I try to do the same to combine two sets into one. I have problem to
let the combine code to recognize a list that is to be passed to the
variable.
See attached.
HTH,
David
\version 2.18
#(define solfege (circular-list d r m f s l t))
#(define numbers (circular-list 1 2 3 4 5 6 7))
#(define (Ez_noteheads-engraver lst )
(list
(cons 'acknowledgers
(list
(cons 'note-head-interface
(lambda (engraver grob source-engraver)
(let* ((context (ly:translator-context engraver))
(tonic-pitch (ly:context-property context 'tonic))
(tonic-name (ly:pitch-notename tonic-pitch))
(delta (- 7 tonic-name))
(solfege-base lst)
(solfege (take (drop solfege-base delta) 7))
(note-names (apply vector solfege)))
; (display solfege)(newline)
(ly:grob-set-property! grob 'note-names
note-names
EzON = {
\easyHeadsOn
\override Staff.StaffSymbol.staff-space = #1.5
\override Staff.StaffSymbol.line-thickness = #1.5
\override Staff.NoteHead.font-size = #+3.25
\override Staff.Clef.font-size = #+1.35
\override Staff.TimeSignature.font-size = #+1.35
\override Staff.Accidental.font-size = #+1.35
\override Voice.NoteHead.font-size = #-5.25
}
EzNum = \with { \consists #(Ez_noteheads-engraver numbers ) }
EzSol = \with { \consists #(Ez_noteheads-engraver solfege ) }
% {
global = { \key c\major \time 4/4 }
muxI = \relative c'' { \global
c1 d2 e2 f4 g4 a8 b8 r4 \break
\key f\major f1 g2 a2 b4 c4 d8 e8 r4
}
muxII = \relative c' { \global
c1 d2 e f4 g a8 b8 r4
\key f\major f1 g2 a b4 c d8 e8 r4
}
\score {
\new Staff
\new Voice = sop \EzNum
{ \voiceOne \EzON \muxI }
\new Voice = alt \EzSol
{ \voiceTwo \EzON \muxII }
\layout { }
}
%}
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Re: warning: no heads for arpeggio found?
rpeggio.ly:4:46: warning: no heads for arpeggio found?
left= \relative c''{ \clef treble a 2.
\arpeggio }
I got the same warning message and no arprggio on pdf.
Emmanuel,
Ming
On Friday, February 14, 2014 9:26:06 PM, Kieren MacMillan
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hi Ming,
Arpeggios require chords.
It is sufficient to make it a one-note chord: a2.\arpeggio
Hope this helps!
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Re: combine codes
David, Wonderfull! Thank you very much. Emmanuel, Ming On Friday, February 14, 2014 9:44:31 PM, David Nalesnik david.nales...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ming, On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:09 PM, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote: As the sample from David Nalesnik that combine three set of variables into one, I try to do the same to combine two sets into one. I have problem to let the combine code to recognize a list that is to be passed to the variable. See attached. HTH, David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: warning: no heads for arpeggio found?
The arpeggio has to arpeggiate to something else Kieren's suggestion
will only help if there are multiple voice that get arpeggiated
together. I hope that makes sense to you. In any event it is not
possible to arpeggiate just a single tone.
Shane
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:56 PM, MING TSANG tsan...@rogers.com wrote:
rpeggio.ly:4:46: warning: no heads for arpeggio found?
left = \relative c''{ \clef treble a 2.
\arpeggio }
I got the same warning message and no arprggio on pdf.
Emmanuel,
Ming
On Friday, February 14, 2014 9:26:06 PM, Kieren MacMillan
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hi Ming,
Arpeggios require chords.
It is sufficient to make it a one-note chord: a2.\arpeggio
Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Overriding staff-padding for MeasureCounter fails
David Nalesnik david.nalesnik at gmail.com writes: On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Ed Gordijn ed.klarinet at gmail.com wrote:Hi, % \override MeasureCounter.staff-padding = #4 % doesn't work either Huh--that's strange. This will involve some investigation to get at the cause, determine if there's a bug. The code that implements staff-padding is used only when requested with \override MeasureCounter #'Y-offset = #side-position-interface::y-aligned-side ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: frescobaldi macports broken after update
On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:36 PM, Davide Liessi davide.lie...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Tim, 2014-02-14 23:35 GMT+01:00 Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net: Unfortunately now I no longer have the side-by-side view of the .ly file and the .pdf file. I can’t for the life of me figure out how that happened or how to get it back. Maybe you just need to enable Music View in the Tools menu. However I don't know why it could have been deactivated. That produces a new full-screen window with the music in it, floating over the window with the .ly file in it. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
