Re: print change of clef after barline
On 31 May 2014, at 22:12, Thomas Morley wrote:
2014-05-31 20:05 GMT+02:00 Damian leGassick damianlegass...@mac.com:
thanks Harm
I found a way...though I don't understand how or why the vector works for
break-align-orders
Damian
Did you look into
IR 3.1.22 BreakAlignment -break-align-orders ?
Or NR A.17 Layout properties -break-align-orders
Please specify whats not clear there and how to improve the description.
Cheers,
Harm
what is not clear is this bit:
The format is a vector of length 3, where each element is one order for
end-of-line, middle of line, and start-of-line, respectively.
the override in this:
\version 2.18.0
musicRH = {
\override Staff.Clef.full-size-change = ##t
\set Staff.printKeyCancellation = ##f
\override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders =
#(make-vector 3 '(
span-bar
breathing-sign
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature
time-signature))
\key fis \major
s1 \bar ||
\set Staff.forceClef = ##t \key es \major s \bar ||
\set Staff.forceClef = ##t \key a \major
}
\layout { ragged-right = ##f }
\score {
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff {\musicRH}
\new Staff {\musicRH}
}
has only one order, suggesting that it acts on end-of-line only, but it also
affects middle of line and also changes the spacing at start of line
I couldn't work out form the docs how to do the override just for middle of
line (which is what I want), or how to do a vector with a different orders for
end/middle/start respectively
thanks
Damian
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Re: print change of clef after barline
Damian leGassick damianlegass...@mac.com writes: On 31 May 2014, at 22:12, Thomas Morley wrote: Did you look into IR 3.1.22 BreakAlignment -break-align-orders ? Or NR A.17 Layout properties -break-align-orders what is not clear is this bit: The format is a vector of length 3, where each element is one order for end-of-line, middle of line, and start-of-line, respectively. \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(make-vector 3 '( span-bar breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature)) has only one order, No. -- Scheme Procedure: make-vector len [fill] -- C Function: scm_make_vector (len, fill) Return a newly allocated vector of LEN elements. If a second argument is given, then each position is initialized to FILL. Otherwise the initial contents of each position is unspecified. suggesting that it acts on end-of-line only, but it also affects middle of line and also changes the spacing at start of line I couldn't work out form the docs how to do the override just for middle of line (which is what I want), or how to do a vector with a different orders for end/middle/start respectively By specifying three different vectors instead of creating one vector with three equal elements. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: print change of clef after barline
2014-06-01 10:23 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Damian leGassick damianlegass...@mac.com writes: On 31 May 2014, at 22:12, Thomas Morley wrote: Did you look into IR 3.1.22 BreakAlignment -break-align-orders ? Or NR A.17 Layout properties -break-align-orders what is not clear is this bit: The format is a vector of length 3, where each element is one order for end-of-line, middle of line, and start-of-line, respectively. \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(make-vector 3 '( span-bar breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature)) has only one order, No. -- Scheme Procedure: make-vector len [fill] -- C Function: scm_make_vector (len, fill) Return a newly allocated vector of LEN elements. If a second argument is given, then each position is initialized to FILL. Otherwise the initial contents of each position is unspecified. suggesting that it acts on end-of-line only, but it also affects middle of line and also changes the spacing at start of line I couldn't work out form the docs how to do the override just for middle of line (which is what I want), or how to do a vector with a different orders for end/middle/start respectively By specifying three different vectors instead of creating one vector with three equal elements. -- David Kastrup @Damian David explained it already, though, here a bit more demonstrative: Look at: guile (use-modules (ice-9 pretty-print)) guile (pretty-print (make-vector 3 '( span-bar breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature))) It returns: #((span-bar breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature) (span-bar breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature) (span-bar breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature)) Now it should be clear why this affects end-of-line, middle of line and start-of-line in the same manner. To get different settings you can't use (make-vector 3 '( ... )), but you have to specify each entry in the vector differently. @David If an experienced user like Damian stumbles across it, it might be worth clearifying it in NR/IR. What do you think? Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: print change of clef after barline
On 01/06/14 10:29, Thomas Morley wrote: 2014-06-01 10:23 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Damian leGassick damianlegass...@mac.com writes: On 31 May 2014, at 22:12, Thomas Morley wrote: Did you look into IR 3.1.22 BreakAlignment -break-align-orders ? Or NR A.17 Layout properties -break-align-orders what is not clear is this bit: The format is a vector of length 3, where each element is one order for end-of-line, middle of line, and start-of-line, respectively. \override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders = #(make-vector 3 '( span-bar breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature)) has only one order, No. -- Scheme Procedure: make-vector len [fill] -- C Function: scm_make_vector (len, fill) Return a newly allocated vector of LEN elements. If a second argument is given, then each position is initialized to FILL. Otherwise the initial contents of each position is unspecified. suggesting that it acts on end-of-line only, but it also affects middle of line and also changes the spacing at start of line I couldn't work out form the docs how to do the override just for middle of line (which is what I want), or how to do a vector with a different orders for end/middle/start respectively By specifying three different vectors instead of creating one vector with three equal elements. -- David Kastrup @Damian David explained it already, though, here a bit more demonstrative: Look at: guile (use-modules (ice-9 pretty-print)) guile (pretty-print (make-vector 3 '( span-bar breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature))) It returns: #((span-bar breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature) (span-bar breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature) (span-bar breathing-sign staff-bar clef key-cancellation key-signature time-signature)) Now it should be clear why this affects end-of-line, middle of line and start-of-line in the same manner. To get different settings you can't use (make-vector 3 '( ... )), but you have to specify each entry in the vector differently. @David If an experienced user like Damian stumbles across it, it might be worth clearifying it in NR/IR. What do you think? Yes, even I could follow that. We could use this example and one that shows how to write it for specifying different vectors. I assume from reading this it would be ((make-vector 1 '( ... )), (make-vector 2 '( ... )), (make-vector 3 '( ... )),) Or something - but then again, I am not the target audience for the IR :) James ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: print change of clef after barline
2014-06-01 11:32 GMT+02:00 James pkx1...@gmail.com:
On 01/06/14 10:29, Thomas Morley wrote:
2014-06-01 10:23 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Damian leGassick damianlegass...@mac.com writes:
On 31 May 2014, at 22:12, Thomas Morley wrote:
Did you look into
IR 3.1.22 BreakAlignment -break-align-orders ?
Or NR A.17 Layout properties -break-align-orders
what is not clear is this bit:
The format is a vector of length 3, where each element is one order
for end-of-line, middle of line, and start-of-line, respectively.
\override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders =
#(make-vector 3 '(
span-bar
breathing-sign
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature
time-signature))
has only one order,
No.
-- Scheme Procedure: make-vector len [fill]
-- C Function: scm_make_vector (len, fill)
Return a newly allocated vector of LEN elements. If a second
argument is given, then each position is initialized to FILL.
Otherwise the initial contents of each position is unspecified.
suggesting that it acts on end-of-line only, but it also affects
middle of line and also changes the spacing at start of line
I couldn't work out form the docs how to do the override just for
middle of line (which is what I want), or how to do a vector with a
different orders for end/middle/start respectively
By specifying three different vectors instead of creating one vector
with three equal elements.
--
David Kastrup
@Damian
David explained it already, though, here a bit more demonstrative:
Look at:
guile (use-modules (ice-9 pretty-print))
guile (pretty-print (make-vector 3 '(
span-bar
breathing-sign
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature
time-signature)))
It returns:
#((span-bar
breathing-sign
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature
time-signature)
(span-bar
breathing-sign
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature
time-signature)
(span-bar
breathing-sign
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature
time-signature))
Now it should be clear why this affects end-of-line, middle of line
and start-of-line in the same manner.
To get different settings you can't use (make-vector 3 '( ... )), but
you have to specify each entry in the vector differently.
@David
If an experienced user like Damian stumbles across it, it might be
worth clearifying it in NR/IR.
What do you think?
Yes, even I could follow that.
We could use this example and one that shows how to write it for specifying
different vectors. I assume from reading this it would be
((make-vector 1 '( ... )),
(make-vector 2 '( ... )),
(make-vector 3 '( ... )),)
Not exactly.
Here some crazy settings for time-signature:
#(
;; end of line: time-signature right before key-signature
(span-bar
breathing-sign
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
time-signature
key-signature)
;; middle of line: time-signature right before staff-bar
(span-bar
breathing-sign
time-signature
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature)
;; start of line: time-signature right before clef
(span-bar
breathing-sign
staff-bar
time-signature
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature))
Though, applying this would return warnings:
No spacing entry from TimeSignature to `clef'
No spacing entry from TimeSignature to `key-signature'
which can be resolved with additional overrides for TimeSignature.space-alist
Here a compilable snippet:
\version 2.19.6
{
\override Score.BreakAlignment #'break-align-orders =
##(
;; end of line: time-signature right before key-signature
(span-bar
breathing-sign
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
time-signature
key-signature)
;; middle of line: time-signature before staff-bar
(span-bar
breathing-sign
time-signature
staff-bar
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature)
;; start of line: time-signature before clef
(span-bar
breathing-sign
staff-bar
time-signature
clef
key-cancellation
key-signature))
\override Score.TimeSignature.space-alist.clef = #'(extra-space . 1)
\override Score.TimeSignature.space-alist.key-signature = #'(extra-space . 1)
\key c \minor
\time 2/2
c''1
\key cis \minor
\time 4/4
d''
\break
\key c \minor
\time 8/8
e''
}
Cheers,
Harm
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Re: print change of clef after barline
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes: make-vector @David If an experienced user like Damian stumbles across it, it might be worth clearifying it in NR/IR. What do you think? I don't think that we can reasonably explain stuff like make-vector in our manuals. The best we can do is to avoid it in elementary examples. That may mean spelling three identical lists out, or using (let ((breaklst ...)) (vector breaklst breaklst breaklst)) It's probably most straightforward to spell the lists out three times. That leaves the user with a tedious but reliable and easy to understand recipe. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: print change of clef after barline
2014-06-01 12:09 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes: make-vector @David If an experienced user like Damian stumbles across it, it might be worth clearifying it in NR/IR. What do you think? I don't think that we can reasonably explain stuff like make-vector in our manuals. The best we can do is to avoid it in elementary examples. That may mean spelling three identical lists out, or using (let ((breaklst ...)) (vector breaklst breaklst breaklst)) It's probably most straightforward to spell the lists out three times. That leaves the user with a tedious but reliable and easy to understand recipe. -- David Kastrup Agreed. I'll go for a patch. Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
chord name
lilyponders:
I am transcribe a score hardcopy and I encounter lily does not generate as the
score hardcopy.
questions:
(1) are they the same?
(2) how can I make it show as the score hardcopy?
(3) Is there a sample chord name sample?
Below is a sample code:
\version 2.19.7
\language english
chordz = \chordmode {
bf2:2 % score hardcopy show Bf2 : lily code as bf2:2 -generate as Bfsus2
?are they the same?
f2:sus % score hardcopy show Fsus : lily code as f2:sus -generate as F
?are they the same?
f2 % score hardcopy show F2 : lily code as f2 -generate as F ?are
they the same?
ef:min7 % score hardcopy show EfM7 : lily code as ef:min7 -generate as Efm7
?are they the same?
}
\score {
\new ChordNames \chordz
\new Staff { \chordz }
\layout { }
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Re: chord name
On 01/06/14 11:34, MING TSANG wrote:
lilyponders:
I am transcribe a score hardcopy and I encounter lily does not
generate as the score hardcopy.
questions:
(1) are they the same?
(2) how can I make it show as the score hardcopy?
(3) Is there a sample chord name sample?
Below is a sample code:
\version 2.19.7
\language english
chordz = \chordmode {
bf2:2 % score hardcopy show Bf2 : lily code as bf2:2 -generate
as Bfsus2 ?are they the same?
f2:sus% score hardcopy show Fsus : lily code as f2:sus -generate
as F ?are they the same?
f2 % score hardcopy show F2 : lily code as f2 -generate as F
?are they the same?
ef:min7 % score hardcopy show EfM7 : lily code as ef:min7 -generate
as Efm7 ?are they the same?
}
\score {
\new ChordNames \chordz
\new Staff { \chordz }
\layout { }
}
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Ming,
I cannot answer the specific comparative examples, but the Appendix
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation-big-page#common-chord-modifiers
does show much more than it ever did in the 2.18 docs.
Does this new information here help or not?
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Re: print change of clef after barline
2014-06-01 12:19 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com: 2014-06-01 12:09 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes: make-vector @David If an experienced user like Damian stumbles across it, it might be worth clearifying it in NR/IR. What do you think? I don't think that we can reasonably explain stuff like make-vector in our manuals. The best we can do is to avoid it in elementary examples. That may mean spelling three identical lists out, or using (let ((breaklst ...)) (vector breaklst breaklst breaklst)) It's probably most straightforward to spell the lists out three times. That leaves the user with a tedious but reliable and easy to understand recipe. -- David Kastrup Agreed. I'll go for a patch. Cheers, Harm Well, I have a problem: I assume the entries in IR 3.1.22 BreakAlignment -break-align-orders Or NR A.17 Layout properties -break-align-orders are generated from define-grob-properties.scm Correct? We have already: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/pitches#pitches-separating-key-cancellations-from-key-signature-changes Therefore I think refering to that snippet would be sufficient. Is it feasible to reference it from inside define-grob-properties.scm If yes, how to do it? Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: chord name
James:
Thank you for the link. I will study it and let you know.
Emmanuel,
Ming
On Sunday, June 1, 2014 6:54:47 AM, James pkx1...@gmail.com wrote:
On 01/06/14 11:34, MING TSANG wrote:
lilyponders:
I am transcribe a score hardcopy and I encounter lily does not generate as the
score hardcopy.
questions:
(1) are they the same?
(2) how can I make it show as the score hardcopy?
(3) Is there a sample chord name sample?
Below is a sample code:
\version 2.19.7
\language english
chordz = \chordmode {
bf2:2 % score hardcopy show Bf2 : lily code as bf2:2 -generate as Bfsus2
?are they the same?
f2:sus % score hardcopy show Fsus : lily code as f2:sus -generate as F
?are they the same?
f2 % score hardcopy show F2 : lily code as f2 -generate as F ?are
they the same?
ef:min7 % score hardcopy show EfM7 : lily code as ef:min7 -generate as Efm7
?are they the same?
}
\score {
\new ChordNames \chordz
\new Staff { \chordz }
\layout { }
}
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Ming,
I cannot answer the specific comparative examples, but the Appendix
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation-big-page#common-chord-modifiers
does show much more than it ever did in the 2.18 docs.
Does this new information here help or not?
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bar numbers above StaffGroups
Hi,
I'm trying to print bar numbers not only at the top of the score, but
also above selected groups, (like brass, percussion, strings, etc.).
The code below does the trick, but the bar numbers are both printed in
columns above the topmost staff. Is there a canonical way to get them
printed directly above the StaffGroup?
I know there is a workaround by inserting an empty staff as topmost
staff of the group with Staff_symbol_engraver and such removed,
BarNumberEngraver enabled for that staff, keeping it alive and
reducing its height to 0. But I guess that wouldn't work very well if
notes on the topmost visible staff of that StaffGroup are sticking out
at the top: All bar numbers of the StaffGroup in that line then would
get printed way above the staff.
--
Orm
\version 2.19.5
music = { \relative c' { \repeat unfold 16 { c4 d e f } } }
\score {
\new Staff { \music }
\new Staff { \music }
\new StaffGroup = mygroup \with {
\consists Bar_number_engraver
}
{
\new Staff { \music }
\new Staff { \music }
}
\layout{
\context {
\Score
\override BarNumber.break-visibility = ##(#t #t #t)
}
}
}
Using \consists Bar_number_engraver doesn't seem to do anything if
defined in a StaffGroup, but works for staffs. This is disadvantegous
as the barnumbers above the topmost staff in a group disappear if the
staff gets removed with \removeEmptyStaves.
Below are some snippets to show what I'm talking about. Is there a way
to make this work for a Staffgroup?
--
Orm
This doesn't show any barnumbers above the strings:
\
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Re: Problems with DC al Fine template
In my previous example, just change _\dc to ^\dc and you have it.
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On Sun, Jun 1, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Yann yann@free.fr wrote:
Ok, I was too quick to post, now I remember the reason for these
\consists and \remove statements. I have chords in my template, and I
wanted the Fine and DC marks to be printed just above the staff
(that is, between the chords and the staff). About this, where would
you put the marks ? Between chords and staff, or above chords ?
But I discovered it can be achieved by keeping the lines related to
Mark_engraver. the \removeStaff_collecting_engraver seems to be
the one m
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Yann yann@free.fr wrote:
essing with the measure number position.
so my (reduced) working example is as follows :
\version 2.18.0
\paper { #(set-paper-size a4) }
accords = \chordmode {
c1 c2 f g c f g g1 c c2 c |
}
melody = \relative c' {
c'4 c c b |
c8 b a g f g a f |
b a g f e f g e |
a g f e d e f fis |
g2 g |
c4 c c d |
e8 f e d c2\once \override Score.RehearsalMark.self-alignment-X =
#RIGHT \mark \markup { \tiny \italic D.C. al Fine } |
}
% Staves
basePart =
\new ChordNames { \accords }
\new Staff \with {
\consists Mark_engraver
}
\new Voice = melody { \repeat volta 2 { \melody } }
\book {
\score {
\basePart
\layout {
\context {
\Score
\remove Mark_engraver
}
}
}
}
Yann
2014-05-25 15:08 GMT+02:00 Knute Snortum ksnor...@gmail.com:
Personally, I'd put the DC below the staff in this situation:
\version 2.18.0
accords = \chordmode {
c1 c2 f g c f g g1 c c2 c |
}
alignRight = \once \override Score.RehearsalMark.self-alignment-X =
#RIGHT
dc = \markup { \tiny \italic D.C. al Fine }
melody = \relative c' {
c'4 c c b |
c8 b a g f g a f |
b a g f e f g e |
a g f e d e f fis |
g2 g |
c4 c c d |
e8 f e d \alignRight c2 _\dc |
}
basePart =
\new ChordNames { \accords }
\new Staff
\new Voice = melody { \repeat volta 2 { \melody } }
\score {
\basePart
\layout {
}
}
Knute Snortum
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Thank you very much for your answer. But, in a case where there are
lyrics as well below the staves, won't it get confusing if the DC mark
is also below the staff ?
Yann
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Re: bar numbers above StaffGroups
2014-06-01 14:23 GMT+02:00 Orm Finnendahl orm.finnend...@hfmdk-frankfurt.de:
Hi,
I'm trying to print bar numbers not only at the top of the score, but
also above selected groups, (like brass, percussion, strings, etc.).
The code below does the trick, but the bar numbers are both printed in
columns above the topmost staff. Is there a canonical way to get them
printed directly above the StaffGroup?
I know there is a workaround by inserting an empty staff as topmost
staff of the group with Staff_symbol_engraver and such removed,
BarNumberEngraver enabled for that staff, keeping it alive and
reducing its height to 0. But I guess that wouldn't work very well if
notes on the topmost visible staff of that StaffGroup are sticking out
at the top: All bar numbers of the StaffGroup in that line then would
get printed way above the staff.
--
Orm
\version 2.19.5
music = { \relative c' { \repeat unfold 16 { c4 d e f } } }
\score {
\new Staff { \music }
\new Staff { \music }
\new StaffGroup = mygroup \with {
\consists Bar_number_engraver
}
{
\new Staff { \music }
\new Staff { \music }
}
\layout{
\context {
\Score
\override BarNumber.break-visibility = ##(#t #t #t)
}
}
}
Using \consists Bar_number_engraver doesn't seem to do anything if
defined in a StaffGroup, but works for staffs. This is disadvantegous
as the barnumbers above the topmost staff in a group disappear if the
staff gets removed with \removeEmptyStaves.
Below are some snippets to show what I'm talking about. Is there a way
to make this work for a Staffgroup?
--
Orm
A first idea:
\version 2.19.5
my-with =
\with {
\override BarNumber.break-visibility = ##(#t #t #f)
\consists Bar_number_engraver
\consists Staff_collecting_engraver
\override BarNumber.after-line-breaking = ##f
}
mI = \relative c' { \repeat unfold 16 { c4 d e f } }
mII = \relative c' { \repeat unfold 16 s1 }
\score {
\new Staff { \transpose c cis \mI }
\new Staff { \transpose c d \mI }
\new StaffGroup = mygroup \my-with
{
\new Staff { \transpose c ees \mI }
\new Staff { \transpose c e \mI }
}
\layout{
\context {
\Score
\override BarNumber.break-visibility = ##(#t #t #t)
}
\context {
\Staff
\RemoveEmptyStaves
\override VerticalAxisGroup.remove-first = ##t
}
}
}
Though, playing around with \mI and \mII you'll notice the BArNumbers
are not removed but overlay each other, while empty staves are
removed.
Cheers,
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Re: bar numbers above StaffGroups
Orm Finnendahl orm.finnend...@hfmdk-frankfurt.de writes:
Hi,
I'm trying to print bar numbers not only at the top of the score, but
also above selected groups, (like brass, percussion, strings, etc.).
The code below does the trick, but the bar numbers are both printed in
columns above the topmost staff. Is there a canonical way to get them
printed directly above the StaffGroup?
I know there is a workaround by inserting an empty staff as topmost
staff of the group with Staff_symbol_engraver and such removed,
BarNumberEngraver enabled for that staff, keeping it alive and
reducing its height to 0. But I guess that wouldn't work very well if
notes on the topmost visible staff of that StaffGroup are sticking out
at the top: All bar numbers of the StaffGroup in that line then would
get printed way above the staff.
--
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\version 2.19.5
music = { \relative c' { \repeat unfold 16 { c4 d e f } } }
\score {
\new Staff { \music }
\new Staff { \music }
\new StaffGroup = mygroup \with {
\consists Bar_number_engraver
}
{
\new Staff { \music }
\new Staff { \music }
}
\layout{
\context {
\Score
\override BarNumber.break-visibility = ##(#t #t #t)
}
}
}
Using \consists Bar_number_engraver doesn't seem to do anything if
defined in a StaffGroup, but works for staffs. This is disadvantegous
as the barnumbers above the topmost staff in a group disappear if the
staff gets removed with \removeEmptyStaves.
2.2.8 Bar_number_engraver
-
A bar number is created whenever ‘measurePosition’ is zero and when
there is a bar line (i.e., when ‘whichBar’ is set). It is put on top of
all staves, and appears only at the left side of the staff. The staves
are taken from ‘stavesFound’, which is maintained by *note
Staff_collecting_engraver::.
2.2.112 Staff_collecting_engraver
-
Maintain the ‘stavesFound’ variable.
Properties (read)
‘stavesFound’ (list of grobs)
A list of all staff-symbols found.
Properties (write)
‘stavesFound’ (list of grobs)
A list of all staff-symbols found.
‘Staff_collecting_engraver’ is part of the following context(s):
*note DrumStaff::, *note GregorianTranscriptionStaff::, *note
KievanStaff::, *note MensuralStaff::, *note PetrucciStaff::, *note
Score::, *note Staff::, *note TabStaff:: and *note VaticanaStaff::.
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\bar partially broken for just me or everyone?
Since updating to 2.18.2 and using JazzLILY I notice that when I compile scores with \bar “|:” or \bar “:|” the repeat signs are not printed. The opening repeat is omitted and the closing repeat is omitted and the end barline is also missing (if the repeat happens at the end of a line, anyway). \bar “|.” works, however. Is this something peculiar to my situation or is this happening for others, too? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \bar partially broken for just me or everyone?
Oh, and of course, convert-ly knows this, so you can use it to update old source files. On 01.06.2014 18:59, Malte Meyn wrote: It’s not a bug, it’s a feature (see documentation; Changes for 2.18 and Notation Reference). \bar .|: and \bar :|. should do what you want. On 01.06.2014 18:40, Tim McNamara wrote: Since updating to 2.18.2 and using JazzLILY I notice that when I compile scores with \bar “|:” or \bar “:|” the repeat signs are not printed. The opening repeat is omitted and the closing repeat is omitted and the end barline is also missing (if the repeat happens at the end of a line, anyway). \bar “|.” works, however. Is this something peculiar to my situation or is this happening for others, too? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Phrasing Slur with Arrow
Hello all! Is there a way to have a phrasing slur with an arrow? I was hoping for something like: \override PhrasingSlur.bound-details.right.arrow = ##t, but that's no good. Thanks! ~Kate ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Phrasing Slur with Arrow
Hello, this was discussed just a few weeks ago at the German LilyPond forum: http://www.lilypondforum.de/index.php?topic=1744.msg9669#msg9669 This post contains an (as far as I know) ready-to-use solution. Maybe Harm, who also subscribed to this list, will answer questions to this ;) Malte On 01.06.2014 20:31, Kate Sekula wrote: Hello all! Is there a way to have a phrasing slur with an arrow? I was hoping for something like: \override PhrasingSlur.bound-details.right.arrow = ##t, but that's no good. Thanks! ~Kate ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \bar partially broken for just me or everyone?
On Jun 1, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Malte Meyn lilyp...@maltemeyn.de wrote: It’s not a bug, it’s a feature (see documentation; Changes for 2.18 and Notation Reference). \bar .|: and \bar :|. should do what you want. Huh! Thanks, it took me a couple minutes to see the logic to that change. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: print change of clef after barline
On 1 Jun 2014, at 12:26, David Kastrup wrote:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes:
2014-06-01 12:19 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com:
2014-06-01 12:09 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes:
make-vector
@David
If an experienced user like Damian stumbles across it, it might be
worth clearifying it in NR/IR.
What do you think?
I don't think that we can reasonably explain stuff like make-vector in
our manuals.
The best we can do is to avoid it in elementary examples. That may mean
spelling three identical lists out, or using
(let ((breaklst ...)) (vector breaklst breaklst breaklst))
It's probably most straightforward to spell the lists out three times.
That leaves the user with a tedious but reliable and easy to understand
recipe.
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Agreed.
I'll go for a patch.
Cheers,
Harm
Well, I have a problem:
I assume the entries in
IR 3.1.22 BreakAlignment -break-align-orders
Or NR A.17 Layout properties -break-align-orders
are generated from define-grob-properties.scm
Correct?
Values from define-grobs.scm.
We have already:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/pitches#pitches-separating-key-cancellations-from-key-signature-changes
Therefore I think refering to that snippet would be sufficient.
Is it feasible to reference it from inside define-grob-properties.scm
If yes, how to do it?
Judging from other manual entries, by putting the following at the end
of the documentation string:
@snippets
@lilypondfile[verbatim,quote,ragged-right,texidoc,doctitle]
{separating-key-cancellations-from-key-signature-changes.ly}
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hi all
yes, a link to that snippet would have enabled me to hack it out; searching the
LSR it was not apparent that that snippet held all the answers
for 'normal but adventurous' users I wouldn't worry about examples in the
manual being 'tedious but reliable' - I use a lot of the internals tweaks every
day without really understanding how they work - the one's i've got to grips
with quickest are the ones with the fullest examples.
thanks for all the help - I really appreciate it
Damian
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A book on how music notation should look
Someone just pointed me to this source of opinion on music notation: https://archive.org/details/EssentialDictionaryOfMusicNotation I don't think I've seen it mentioned on this list before, so thought folk might be interested. I just used it to educate myself on the subject of melisma for which I was roundly condemned a while back. Richard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Getting LilyPond code with included files into LyX
On 26 May 2014, at 07:54, Ben Beeson wrote: Hi all, I decided that I wanted to compile a tune book using LyX. I have collected up several tunes that I want in the tune book and these tunes are all engraved with LilyPond. Now I need to figure out how to get these tunes into a LyX file so I can compile the tune book. I have figured out how to get some music notes such as a scale into a LyX document using the LilyPond module. Now I need to figure out how to make that work when your LilyPond code needs an included file such as bagpipe.ly to render the music correctly. So far I am not having much luck with including bagpipe.ly and the LyX documentation has not helped much in that regard. I am missing something that will tell LyX to send the instructions for the include files to LilyPond when it builds the file. I am hoping there is a simple fix for this, but I have not found it yet. If anyone knows how to get the LyX LilyPond module to include bagpipe.ly or some other path/to/some/file.ly when building a document with LilyPond to work, I would appreciate a short note to help explain that. Cheers and thanks in advance, Ben ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user It works for me - though there's a catch... On Mac OS 10.6.8 with LyX 2.0.5 I can get the included files to work *only* if they are located in /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/ly/ (right-click on the Lilypond app and 'show package contents') e.g. a source file that has: \include bagpipe.ly compiles for me in LyX if there is a file: /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/share/lilypond/current/ly/bagpipe.ly /include path/to/some/file.ly does not work in LyX even if the file compiles as normal with 'regular' Lilypond Damian ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Please how to use the Scheme debugger?
My apologies to D. Kastrup for having replied in the wrong way. It seems that Lilypond ( lilypond-2.18.2-1.linux-x86.sh installed with default options ) comes with its own private copy of Guile (1.8.7). Unfortunately this means that installing another version of Guile does not change anything. Please is there any way to break the link between Lilypond and this version of Guile? At present, the only way I can get a working debugger is by reverting to Lilypond 2.14 . ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: print change of clef after barline
2014-06-01 13:26 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes:
2014-06-01 12:19 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com:
2014-06-01 12:09 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org:
Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com writes:
make-vector
@David
If an experienced user like Damian stumbles across it, it might be
worth clearifying it in NR/IR.
What do you think?
I don't think that we can reasonably explain stuff like make-vector in
our manuals.
The best we can do is to avoid it in elementary examples. That may mean
spelling three identical lists out, or using
(let ((breaklst ...)) (vector breaklst breaklst breaklst))
It's probably most straightforward to spell the lists out three times.
That leaves the user with a tedious but reliable and easy to understand
recipe.
--
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Agreed.
I'll go for a patch.
Cheers,
Harm
Well, I have a problem:
I assume the entries in
IR 3.1.22 BreakAlignment -break-align-orders
Or NR A.17 Layout properties -break-align-orders
are generated from define-grob-properties.scm
Correct?
Values from define-grobs.scm.
We have already:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/pitches#pitches-separating-key-cancellations-from-key-signature-changes
Therefore I think refering to that snippet would be sufficient.
Is it feasible to reference it from inside define-grob-properties.scm
If yes, how to do it?
Judging from other manual entries, by putting the following at the end
of the documentation string:
@snippets
@lilypondfile[verbatim,quote,ragged-right,texidoc,doctitle]
{separating-key-cancellations-from-key-signature-changes.ly}
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https://codereview.appspot.com/96650050/
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slur and tie in a chord
lilyponders:
I have trouble make the following code working:
I like to see ef, tie to Ef, Ef tie to Ef, Af slur to G. The ties are ok but
slur does not display.
\version 2.19.7
\language english
{
\key ef\major
\clef bass
ef,~ ef~ af(2. |ef, ef g)2.
}
Emmanuel,
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Re: bug triplet line collides with fingering
I thought this bug had been reported but apparently not. I just recompiled
the same file with LilyPond_2.19.7 and the triplet line still collides with
either the fingering or with the slur.
\version 2.19.7
\language english
{
\relative d' {
\tuplet 3/2 {d'4\flageolet a8-4(} \tuplet 3/2{f d a)}
}
}
I tried several options and neither look nice. any way to reduce the width
of the bracket may be?
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small notehead in a chord
lilyponders:
For the following code, how can I make notehead Ef, Ef, in the chords smaller?
\version 2.19.7
\language english
{
\key ef\major
\time 3/4
\clef bass
ef, ef af2. |ef, ef g2.
}
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Re: Separate pedal staff shifts notes in music staves
To reproduce the behaviour you just have to extend on staff. e.g. the
first stuff:
\new Staff \relative c''{
\time 6/4
{ c2.( d2) d4 | c2.( d2) d4 | }
\\
{ g,2. a | g2. a |}
c1. c c c c c c c
}
Regards
Helge
Am 02.06.2014 04:27, schrieb Javier Ruiz-Alma:
I have Pedal markings on a separate 'dynamics staff within a PianoStaff
I need to place a sustainOff between 5th and 6th beats (on 6/4 time).
If I place the sustainOff on the 5th beat, the 6 quarter notes in the bass are
kept at equal distances, however, if I place the sustainOff after the 5th beat,
the note column of the 6th beat is shifted left.
I'm attaching images of the typesetting:
PedalStaff1.png (equal beat spacing when sustainOff placed on 5th beat):
s1\sustainOn s4 s4\sustainOff
PedalStaff2.png (compressed 6th beat when sustainOff placed after 5th beat):
{s1\sustainOn s8. s16\sustainOff s4}, or {s1\sustainOn s8 s8\sustainOff s4}
I tried to replicate with a tiny example, but I can't replicate this shifting
behavior :
\version 2.18.2
\new PianoStaff
\new Staff \relative c''{
\time 6/4
{ c2.( d2) d4 | c2.( d2) d4 | } \\
{ g,2. a | g2. a |}
}
\new Staff \relative c'{
\clef bass
c4( ees f,ees'g f)
c4( ees f,ees'g f)
}
\new Dynamics {
\time 6/4
s1\sustainOn s4 s4\sustainOff
s1\sustainOn s8. s16\sustainOff s4
}
The issue does occur in bar78 in the following score:
https://gist.github.com/dominicus/8085e4d3e8692ca64d27
Any ideas as to why a separate pedal staff may influence the note columns in
other staves?
Javier Ruiz-Alma
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Re: (was: print change of clef after barline) scm vectors in frescobaldi
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Re: bug triplet line collides with fingering
ccing bug list
On 02/06/14 02:37, MarcM wrote:
I thought this bug had been reported but apparently not. I just recompiled
the same file with LilyPond_2.19.7 and the triplet line still collides with
either the fingering or with the slur.
\version 2.19.7
\language english
{
\relative d' {
\tuplet 3/2 {d'4\flageolet a8-4(} \tuplet 3/2{f d a)}
}
}
I tried several options and neither look nice. any way to reduce the width
of the bracket may be?
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