Re: Music font switching question
Christopher R. Maden wrote Add the new different things at the *end* of the list, not the beginning, so that code that used to work continues to work. Otherwise, it seems good to me... Well, it's not really new because it already happens first under the covers. It's just hard-coded to the emmentaler fonts. Regards, Abraham -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Music-font-switching-question-tp164224p164227.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Question for all LilyPond users (especially power users)
Am 09.07.2014 07:43, schrieb tisimst: Greetings, All! I have worked out a very nice way to switch between notation fonts in LilyPond, both on a global document level and a local usage level. Up until now, there were only a couple of music fonts available that were really usable on a professional level: /Emmentaler/ (the default, built-in font) and /Gonville/. There are also /LilyJAZZ/ and /Bravura/ (a SMuFL-compliant font), but they require some serious hacks to make them work and they have trouble with even some basic notation elements (like tempo markings, arpeggios, etc.). I am pleased to announce that I have several new music fonts, both in OTF and SVG formats, that I'd like people to be able to use, but this requires a patch to a single file, so anyone wanting to patch the file can do it with little effort. It makes using other fonts as easy as putting a single \include statement at the top of a .ly file. I use them all the time, but I really want to share with the community that has shared so much with me. *My question is this: /Is anyone interested in this?/* Of course, count me in! Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Question for all LilyPond users (especially power users)
2014-07-09 22:40 GMT+02:00 tisimst tisi...@gmail.com: Recently, a user (I forget the name...) made some updates to the LilyJAZZ ensemble by introducing a font specifically designed for chords, which includes both lower and uppercase letters and shortcuts to the sharp, flat, etc. symbols. I did that, but I let it unfinished for a couple of weeks now... see = http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/LilyJAZZ-in-v2-18-td162423.html#a162444 Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Music font switching question
Hi,
2014-07-09 0:16 GMT+02:00 tisimst tisi...@gmail.com:
Let me explain. When one wants to change the text fonts _globally_, there is
the very useful Scheme function make-pango-font-tree, which looks
something like this when used:
\paper {
#(define fonts
(make-pango-font-tree
FreeSerif ; the serif font
FreeSans ; the sans-serif font
Inconsolata ; the mono-space font
(/ staff-height pt 20)))
}
You simply put this block into you .ly file and now you get those fonts
instead of the defaults. /What if/, using a similar syntax we could change
the music and brace fonts like this (additions highlighted):
\paper {
#(define fonts
(make-pango-font-tree
/*gonville ; the music notation font
emmentaler ; the music brace font*/
FreeSerif ; the serif font
FreeSans ; the sans-serif font
Inconsolata ; the mono-space font
(/ staff-height pt 20)))
}
I think something like this would be perfectly acceptable.
cheers,
Janek
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Re: Beam subdivided at non-periodic intervals
Hi Javier, 2014-07-09 8:11 GMT+02:00 Javier Ruiz-Alma jav...@ruiz-alma.com: The \subdivideBeams statement adds the unwanted subdivisions at the time signature beats. Hum, strange... You've written that before my mail and I just recieved it this morning!? I'm not sure to understand how this list works but happy to see that we came to the same conclusion. ;) Cheers, Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Proportional-Notation Durations
Thomas Morley wrote: 2014-07-09 0:24 GMT+02:00 PMApeterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu: Hi List. I'm looking for a LilyPond way to specify note duration in a Proportional Notation context using exactly _one_ stemless notehead type. Perhaps the first option is a mid-level horizontal line extending distance-X from the notehead. (The space following would indicate silence.) But I want ask: has anyone done this instead with the _hairpin_ -- attached to a note-head via pitch params, tapered to a param-specified length, and filled? If not, or in any case, any other ideas? Thanks in advance for your time. Pete Hi Pete, do you mean something like: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-12/msg00145.html ? Somewhere on my computer I've an updated version, if the link shows what you're looking for. Cheers, Harm Hi Yerself, Harm! I will give this a shot. (Better update to 2.18 first - I've been still treading water in 2.12.3). Thanks! Pete ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chord Symbols with inversions
On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 17:53 +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:
Thank you for this. With that I have now got as far as the attached
[...]
Sigh. No minimal working example.
I've created a minimal example now, the numeric time signature has
appeared, but with a warning:
warning: time signature symbol `numeric24' not found; reverting to
numbered style
which appears twice. The code is as follows:
\version 2.18.0
\score {
\set Score.timing = ##f
\new ChordNames \with {
\override BarLine.bar-extent = #'(-2 . 2)
\consists Bar_engraver
\consists Text_engraver
\consists Script_engraver
\consists Time_signature_engraver
\override TimeSignature #'style = #'numeric
}
{\time 2/4 f' a' c'' e''}
}
The Text and Script engravers are for things like \fermata and \markup
which will be needed though not in this minimal example.
Do I have something wrong here still?
Richard
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Re: Integrating a markup in a music-function
Schneidy wrote
Hi List,
On the French forum Remy and I (see:
http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/instrumentName-sur-plusieurs-lignes-dans-une-fonction-tt7581499.html)
are stucked with a markup function.
Here we are so far :
\version 2.18.2
#(define (general-column align-dir baseline mols)
(let* ((aligned-mols (map (lambda (x) (ly:stencil-aligned-to x X
align-dir)) mols)))
(stack-lines -1 0.0 baseline aligned-mols)))
#(define-markup-command (textCenter layout props args)(markup-list?)
#:properties ((baseline-skip))
(general-column CENTER baseline-skip (wordwrap-internal-markup-list
layout props #f args)))
shortIncipit =
#(define-music-function (parser location InstrName ) (markup?)
#{
\set Staff.instrumentName = \markup {
\override #'(line-width . 12)
#InstrName
}
#})
myInst = \markup\textCenter { Cantus primi chori }
\layout {
indent = 30
}
{ \shortIncipit\myInst c' }
What we would like is to integrate \textCenter in the shortIncipit
function
in order to be able to write :
{ \shortIncipit #Cantus primi chori c' }
Anyone ?
Cheers,
Pierre
Hi Pierre,
try:
\version 2.18.2
#(define (general-column align-dir baseline mols)
(let* ((aligned-mols
(map (lambda (x) (ly:stencil-aligned-to x X align-dir)) mols)))
(stack-lines -1 0.0 baseline aligned-mols)))
#(define-markup-command (center-text-string layout props arg)
(string?)
#:properties ((baseline-skip)
wordwrap-string-internal-markup-list)
(general-column CENTER baseline-skip
(wordwrap-string-internal-markup-list layout props #f arg)))
shortIncipit =
#(define-music-function (parser location instr-name ) (markup?)
#{
\set Staff.instrumentName =
\markup {
\override #'(line-width . 12)
\center-text-string #instr-name
}
#})
\layout { indent = 30 }
{ \shortIncipit Cantus primi chori c' }
OT: I'm replying via the nabble-interface, because your post didn't appear
in my mails til now. Currently it seems I miss several mails.
Some of them I notice, when they are quoted.
Others with the same experience?
Cheers,
Harm
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Re: Integrating a markup in a music-function
Am 10.07.2014 10:54, schrieb Thomas Morley-2: [...] OT: I'm replying via the nabble-interface, because your post didn't appear in my mails til now. Currently it seems I miss several mails. Some of them I notice, when they are quoted. Others with the same experience? Yes, some messages are delayed for several hours, or even a whole day. Strange ... Marc ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Optical spacing -- no more?
Something I've been wondering about for awhile... lilypond.org boasts of
optical spacing for notes with alternating up and down stems, but it
seems this feature has been lost somewhere (or disabled by default). In
this example, it's quite plain to my eyes that the stems are not equally
spaced within the bars.
\version 2.18.2
\relative c'' { e4 c, f' d, g' e, a' f, }
Which is correct -- the website, or LP's behavior?
hjh
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Re: Optical spacing -- no more?
Am 10.07.2014 11:39, schrieb James Harkins:
\version 2.18.2
\relative c'' { e4 c, f' d, g' e, a' f, }
Hm, there have been quite significant improvements in the horizontal
spacing engine recently. Can it be that this is a side-effect of this?
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RE: Beam subdivided at non-periodic intervals
Javier,
Certainly more elegant and efficient than mine. Thank you for the instructions.
Mark
From: Javier Ruiz-Alma [mailto:jav...@ruiz-alma.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 11:11 PM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; 'LilyPond User Group'
Subject: Re: Beam subdivided at non-periodic intervals
The \subdivideBeams statement adds the unwanted subdivisions at the time
signature beats.
Once I did away with this, the passage renders with just two overrides per
break in the beam. Not as elegant as defining a custom beat count structure,
but the intent is clear.
\version 2.18.2
\relative c{
\time 4/4
\key g \minor
\ottava #1
ees16 [ \set stemRightBeamCount = #1 d \set stemLeftBeamCount = #1
f ees \set stemRightBeamCount = #1 d \set stemLeftBeamCount = #1
c b d \set stemRightBeamCount = #1 c \set stemLeftBeamCount = #1
bes a g fis]
}
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 10:22 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com
wrote:
Javier,
You are welcome!
Mark
From: Javier Ruiz-Alma [mailto:jav...@ruiz-alma.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 9:17 PM
To: Mark Stephen Mrotek; 'LilyPond User Group'
Subject: Re: Beam subdivided at non-periodic intervals
I'm surprised that it does. Thanks for coming up with that option.
I was stuck in the section on Subdivided beams, but failed to come up with any
combination of \baseMoment and \beatStructure that would render these beam
subdivisions.
On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 8:39 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek carsonm...@ca.rr.com
wrote:
Javier,
I am not sure it is the most elegant solution, yet it appears to work.
The command “\set stemLeftBeamCount” is at
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/beams#manual-beams
Mark
From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Javier
Ruiz-Alma
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:55 PM
To: LilyPond User Group
Subject: Beam subdivided at non-periodic intervals
I need help implementing beam subdivisions with non-periodic beat structure
(see image). Thank You!
Below base code for this measure:
%%
\version 2.18.2
\relative c{
\time 4/4
\key g \minor
\set subdivideBeams = ##t
\ottava #1
ees16[ d f ees d c b d c bes a g fis]
}
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Re: Header markup question
Hi Abraham,
this was the next point on my LilyPond todo list, doing such a spacing
cheat sheet. Thanks a lot for sharing. Can you provide a link such that
other users can be pointed to it?
Thanks,
Joram
Am 08.07.2014 16:48, schrieb Abraham Lee:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Larry Kent kentla...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm editing a file that was created in 2.16. Within the *\paper*
settings, I have the following two lines that put headers on pages
after the first, and they print too close to the top edge of the
paper. What markup should be added to move the headers down a bit?
*evenHeaderMarkup=\markup \fill-line { \fromproperty
#'page:page-number-string \htitle \hcomposer }
*
*oddHeaderMarkup= \markup \fill-line { \on-the-fly #not-first-page
\hcomposer \on-the-fly #not-first-page \htitle \on-the-fly
#not-first-page \fromproperty #'page:page-number-string }*
**
Thanks.
Larry Kent
Tampa, FL
Larry,
This may also help. I made this diagram because I had trouble
understanding which page layout properties did what. See attached for a
graphical example of vertical layout properties (some rigid, some
flexible). This, in conjunction with the description in the notation
reference
(http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/page-layout),
should give you enough options.
Also, you could also do the something like this in a \markup block:
\markup { \column { \line { \what-you-want-to-print } } }
This will force a little extra space on top of \what-you-want-to-print.
Regards,
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Re: Chord Symbols with inversions
2014-07-09 13:52 GMT+02:00 Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com:
Hi list,
With notation like
\version 2.18.0
\chordmode {
c/g
}
I can get chord names with /G at the end to indicate a G added below the
root of the chord.
With the notation
\new ChordNames
{
c' e' g'1
}
I can get the chord symbol C typeset, but is there any way to get the
C/G symbol typeset via this syntax? Obviously, if I just add the low G
it interprets it as a chord on the root G.
Richard
How about:
\version 2.18.0
bass =
#(define-music-function (parser location mus)(ly:music?)
(if (music-is-of-type? mus 'note-event)
(ly:music-set-property! mus 'bass #t)
mus)
mus)
\new ChordNames
{
c' e' g' \bass g,2
c' e' g' \bass e2
c' e' g' \bass fis2
}
HTH,
Harm
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Re: Header markup question
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi Abraham,
this was the next point on my LilyPond todo list, doing such a spacing
cheat sheet. Thanks a lot for sharing. Can you provide a link such
that
other users can be pointed to it?
Thanks,
Joram
Am 08.07.2014 16:48, schrieb Abraham Lee:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Larry Kent kentla...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm editing a file that was created in 2.16. Within the *\paper*
settings, I have the following two lines that put headers on pages
after the first, and they print too close to the top edge of the
paper. What markup should be added to move the headers down a bit?
*evenHeaderMarkup=\markup \fill-line { \fromproperty
#'page:page-number-string \htitle \hcomposer }
*
*oddHeaderMarkup= \markup \fill-line { \on-the-fly #not-first-page
\hcomposer \on-the-fly #not-first-page \htitle \on-the-fly
#not-first-page \fromproperty #'page:page-number-string }*
**
Thanks.
Larry Kent
Tampa, FL
Larry,
This may also help. I made this diagram because I had trouble
understanding which page layout properties did what. See attached
for a
graphical example of vertical layout properties (some rigid, some
flexible). This, in conjunction with the description in the notation
reference
(http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/page-layout),
should give you enough options.
Also, you could also do the something like this in a \markup block:
\markup { \column { \line { \what-you-want-to-print } } }
This will force a little extra space on top of
\what-you-want-to-print.
Regards,
Abraham
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Joram,
Good idea! I'm not sure how to contribute it to openlilylib properly,
but it seems like that might be a nice place to make it permanently
available if Janek/Urs might be willing to place it there :)
-Abraham
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I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update
Hi, some days ago I posted a message to say that I couldn't import an xml
organ file made with Musescore; yesterday I installed Forte 5 basic took
from GAOTD, and at my surprise it read perfectly the xml files I couldn't
made Lilypond read . At this point i could think there is a problem in the
LilyPond import section. I installed Forte 5 premium demo (the basic edition
can't export to xml) and imported the xml file produced by Musescore (all
OK) and export it back to a new xml file. I got another, different error.
Importing in Ubuntustudio, Frescobaldi 2.0.13, LilyPond 2.16.2 from
the Musescore xml output
The file couldn't be converted. Error message:
musicxml2ly: Lettura di MusicXML da /home/vincent/Musica/CANC/cazz/prova.xml
...
musicxml2ly: Conversione nelle espressioni di LilyPond...
musicxml2ly: Conversione nelle espressioni di LilyPond...
musicxml2ly: Conversione nelle espressioni di LilyPond...
musicxml2ly: Conversione nelle espressioni di LilyPond...
musicxml2ly: Conversione nelle espressioni di LilyPond...
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2986, in module
main()
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2981, in main
voices = convert (filename, options)
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2896, in convert
update_score_setup (score, part_list, voices)
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2794, in update_score_setup
score_structure.set_part_information (part_id, staves_info)
File /usr/share/lilypond/2.16.2/python/musicexp.py, line 1935, in
set_part_information
self.contents.set_part_information (part_id, staves_info)
File /usr/share/lilypond/2.16.2/python/musicexp.py, line 1774, in
set_part_information
c.set_part_information (part_name, staves_info)
AttributeError: PartGroupInfo instance has no attribute
'set_part_information'
Importing in Ubuntustudio, from the from the Forte 5 premium demo
xml output
The file couldn't be converted. Error message:
musicxml2ly: Lettura di MusicXML da
/home/vincent/Musica/CANC/cazz/provaII.xml ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2986, in module
main()
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2981, in main
voices = convert (filename, options)
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2883, in convert
score_information = extract_score_information (tree)
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 201, in extract_score_information
set_if_exists ('title', movement_title.get_text ())
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_text'
What can be done? :-(
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Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update
- Original Message - From: Son_V vincenzo.a...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 11:59 AM Subject: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update What can be done? :-( Please see my reply on bugs to your duplicate message about this. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chord Symbols with inversions
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes: On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 17:53 +0200, David Kastrup wrote: Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes: Thank you for this. With that I have now got as far as the attached [...] Sigh. No minimal working example. I've created a minimal example now, the numeric time signature has appeared, but with a warning: warning: time signature symbol `numeric24' not found; reverting to numbered style Not obvious? \override TimeSignature #'style = #'numeric Do I have something wrong here still? There is no #'numeric time signature style, only #'numbered. But you may invoke it using \numericTimeSignature if you like. It's defined as %% numeric time signature numericTimeSignature = \override Staff.TimeSignature.style = #'numbered defaultTimeSignature = \revert Staff.TimeSignature.style in ly/property-init.ly -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chord Symbols with inversions
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 11:11 +0200, David Kastrup wrote: \override TimeSignature #'style = #'numeric Do I have something wrong here still? There is no #'numeric time signature style, only #'numbered. But you may invoke it using \numericTimeSignature if you like. Hmm, I guess I was thrown by the fact that it worked, the default style changed to numeric, only later did I notice the warning. By then I had established it in my mind as correct syntax. All fixed now, thank you Richard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chord Symbols with inversions
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes: On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 11:11 +0200, David Kastrup wrote: \override TimeSignature #'style = #'numeric Do I have something wrong here still? There is no #'numeric time signature style, only #'numbered. But you may invoke it using \numericTimeSignature if you like. Hmm, I guess I was thrown by the fact that it worked, the default style changed to numeric, only later did I notice the warning. It does seem like a strange choice to revert to something _different_ from the default setting when no recognized style is specified. -- David Kastrup ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update
On 10/07/14 11:59, Son_V wrote:
Hi, some days ago I posted a message to say that I couldn't import an xml
organ file made with Musescore; yesterday I installed Forte 5 basic took
from GAOTD, and at my surprise it read perfectly the xml files I couldn't
made Lilypond read . At this point i could think there is a problem in the
LilyPond import section. I installed Forte 5 premium demo (the basic edition
can't export to xml) and imported the xml file produced by Musescore (all
OK) and export it back to a new xml file. I got another, different error.
Importing in Ubuntustudio, Frescobaldi 2.0.13, LilyPond 2.16.2 from
the Musescore xml output
The file couldn't be converted. Error message:
musicxml2ly: Lettura di MusicXML da /home/vincent/Musica/CANC/cazz/prova.xml
...
musicxml2ly: Conversione nelle espressioni di LilyPond...
musicxml2ly: Conversione nelle espressioni di LilyPond...
musicxml2ly: Conversione nelle espressioni di LilyPond...
musicxml2ly: Conversione nelle espressioni di LilyPond...
musicxml2ly: Conversione nelle espressioni di LilyPond...
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2986, in module
main()
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2981, in main
voices = convert (filename, options)
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2896, in convert
update_score_setup (score, part_list, voices)
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2794, in update_score_setup
score_structure.set_part_information (part_id, staves_info)
File /usr/share/lilypond/2.16.2/python/musicexp.py, line 1935, in
set_part_information
self.contents.set_part_information (part_id, staves_info)
File /usr/share/lilypond/2.16.2/python/musicexp.py, line 1774, in
set_part_information
c.set_part_information (part_name, staves_info)
AttributeError: PartGroupInfo instance has no attribute
'set_part_information'
Importing in Ubuntustudio, from the from the Forte 5 premium demo
xml output
The file couldn't be converted. Error message:
musicxml2ly: Lettura di MusicXML da
/home/vincent/Musica/CANC/cazz/provaII.xml ...
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2986, in module
main()
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2981, in main
voices = convert (filename, options)
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 2883, in convert
score_information = extract_score_information (tree)
File /usr/bin/musicxml2ly, line 201, in extract_score_information
set_if_exists ('title', movement_title.get_text ())
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get_text'
What can be done? :-(
I'd attach the xml file you are trying to convert (if it is small enough
- or give someone a place they can get it from) and report this to
'bug-lilyp...@gnu.org'.
James
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Re: Optical spacing -- no more?
Am 10.07.2014 11:42, schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 10.07.2014 11:39, schrieb James Harkins:
\version 2.18.2
\relative c'' { e4 c, f' d, g' e, a' f, }
Hm, there have been quite significant improvements in the horizontal
spacing engine recently. Can it be that this is a side-effect of this?
It seems like this disappeared before 2.16.2. Since then I can see no
difference. But I agree, the current spacing does not look like the
optical spacing to me.
Cheers,
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Re: Optical spacing -- no more?
Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de writes:
Am 10.07.2014 11:42, schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 10.07.2014 11:39, schrieb James Harkins:
\version 2.18.2
\relative c'' { e4 c, f' d, g' e, a' f, }
Hm, there have been quite significant improvements in the horizontal
spacing engine recently. Can it be that this is a side-effect of this?
It seems like this disappeared before 2.16.2. Since then I can see no
difference. But I agree, the current spacing does not look like the
optical spacing to me.
I think that is an optical illusion, as to be expected from optical
spacing.
If I write
\relative c'' { e4 c, f' d, g' e, a' f, }
% \addlyrics { ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! }
I get
And in the lyrics one sees quite well that the middle notes are spaced
further apart than the outer ones.
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Re: Optical spacing -- no more?
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
If I write
\relative c'' { e4 c, f' d, g' e, a' f, }
% \addlyrics { ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! }
Obviously, remove the % character for that experiment...
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List defect?
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Re: Optical spacing -- no more?
Am 10.07.2014 14:50, schrieb David Kastrup:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
If I write
\relative c'' { e4 c, f' d, g' e, a' f, }
% \addlyrics { ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! }
Obviously, remove the % character for that experiment...
That is quite convincing.
So I guess the default spacing is now a bit thighter compared to
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/essay/engraving-details#optical-spacing
which reduces the optical impression but the feature is still there.
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Re: Optical spacing -- no more?
At 15:15 on 10 Jul 2014, Noeck wrote:
Am 10.07.2014 14:50, schrieb David Kastrup:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
If I write
\relative c'' { e4 c, f' d, g' e, a' f, }
% \addlyrics { ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! }
Obviously, remove the % character for that experiment...
That is quite convincing.
So I guess the default spacing is now a bit thighter compared to
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/essay/engraving-details#optical-spacing
which reduces the optical impression but the feature is still there.
For some reason (presumably to slightly exaggerate the effect) the
example in the essay includes:
\override NoteSpacing.stem-spacing-correction = #0.6
as opposed to the default of #0.5. Might it be a good idea for the
feature to be illustrated with the default value?
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Re: List defect?
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Re: Optical spacing -- no more?
Mark Knoop m...@opus11.net writes:
At 15:15 on 10 Jul 2014, Noeck wrote:
Am 10.07.2014 14:50, schrieb David Kastrup:
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:
If I write
\relative c'' { e4 c, f' d, g' e, a' f, }
% \addlyrics { ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! }
Obviously, remove the % character for that experiment...
That is quite convincing.
So I guess the default spacing is now a bit thighter compared to
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/essay/engraving-details#optical-spacing
which reduces the optical impression but the feature is still there.
For some reason (presumably to slightly exaggerate the effect) the
example in the essay includes:
\override NoteSpacing.stem-spacing-correction = #0.6
as opposed to the default of #0.5. Might it be a good idea for the
feature to be illustrated with the default value?
Well, I don't know whether we are supposed to alter the essay after the
fact... It's conceivable that the defaults changed over time, too.
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Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update
Well, the file produced by Musescore: http://www.freefilehosting.net/prova_1 and the same file imported in Forte Premium demo and re-exported in an xml file: http://www.freefilehosting.net/provaii But what messes me is that the first file, the one produced by MuseScore, can be imported in Denemo (BUT it sees FIVE voices!) and, WITHOUT any problem, by Forte. I think maybe there's a problem with musixml2ly ... but what can be done? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/I-was-unable-to-import-an-xml-ogan-file-from-Musescore-update-tp164243p164256.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Integrating a markup in a music-function
Am 10.07.2014 10:54, schrieb Thomas Morley-2: OT: I'm replying via the nabble-interface, because your post didn't appear in my mails til now. Currently it seems I miss several mails. Some of them I notice, when they are quoted. Others with the same experience? I have the impression that some of my own posts don't show up in my inbox. Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypondforum.nl
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Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update
On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 09:45 -0700, Son_V wrote: the one produced by MuseScore, can be imported in Denemo (BUT it sees FIVE voices!) well, it sees 5 voices because, bizarrely MuseScore has numbered the three voices 1, 2 and 5 The two empty ones are harmless (empty) and easily deleted of course. Richard ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Optical spacing -- no more?
Hi,
2014-07-10 15:15 GMT+02:00 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de:
So I guess the default spacing is now a bit thighter compared to
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/essay/engraving-details#optical-spacing
Nope - the difference is because you're comparing different examples.
Example in Essay has both quarters and eights, and this is what makes
the spacing wider there (common shortest duration becomes an eight
instead of quarter). See for yourself:
relative c'' { e4 c, f' d, g' e, a' f, }
{ c'4 e''4 e'4 b'4 }
% versus
{
c'4 e''4 e'4 b'4 |
\stemDown
b'8[ e'' a' e'']
\stemNeutral
e'8[ e'8 e'8 e'8]
}
So, I don't think there were any significant changes to spacing in this regard.
best,
Janek
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Re: Header markup question
Hi, 2014-07-10 12:18 GMT+02:00 Abraham Lee tisi...@gmail.com: Good idea! I'm not sure how to contribute it to openlilylib properly, but it seems like that might be a nice place to make it permanently available if Janek/Urs might be willing to place it there :) I fully support placing it somewhere visible, but i think that it doesn't quite fit the characteristic of openlilylib - this is a piece of documentation, not code with some functionality. I would rather add it here https://github.com/openlilylib/development-resources/tree/master/learning-resources, but then it's not really a visible place :( Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update
- Original Message - From: Son_V vincenzo.a...@gmail.com To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 5:45 PM Subject: Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update Well, the file produced by Musescore: http://www.freefilehosting.net/prova_1 and the same file imported in Forte Premium demo and re-exported in an xml file: http://www.freefilehosting.net/provaii But what messes me is that the first file, the one produced by MuseScore, can be imported in Denemo (BUT it sees FIVE voices!) and, WITHOUT any problem, by Forte. I think maybe there's a problem with musixml2ly ... but what can be done? Thanks. [echo] You could see whether you can reduce the XML file to a tiny example that still breaks the import, and post it here. We can then use that to raise a bug report. You could also hand edit the XML source to get rid of the error in the PartGroupInfo section. -- Phil Holmes ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update
Ok, but how can Denemo load the file that LilyPond can't open, and so makes Forte? -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/I-was-unable-to-import-an-xml-ogan-file-from-Musescore-update-tp164243p164263.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update
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Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update
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Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update
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Re: Integrating a markup in a music-function
Hi Harm,
2014-07-10 10:54 GMT+02:00 Thomas Morley-2 thomasmorle...@gmail.com:
try:
\version 2.18.2
#(define (general-column align-dir baseline mols)
(let* ((aligned-mols
(map (lambda (x) (ly:stencil-aligned-to x X align-dir)) mols)))
(stack-lines -1 0.0 baseline aligned-mols)))
#(define-markup-command (center-text-string layout props arg)
(string?)
#:properties ((baseline-skip)
wordwrap-string-internal-markup-list)
(general-column CENTER baseline-skip
(wordwrap-string-internal-markup-list layout props #f arg)))
shortIncipit =
#(define-music-function (parser location instr-name ) (markup?)
#{
\set Staff.instrumentName =
\markup {
\override #'(line-width . 12)
\center-text-string #instr-name
}
#})
\layout { indent = 30 }
{ \shortIncipit Cantus primi chori c' }
Perfect !
Thanks Harm,
OT: I'm replying via the nabble-interface, because your post didn't appear
in my mails til now. Currently it seems I miss several mails.
Some of them I notice, when they are quoted.
Others with the same experience?
Indeed, I've mentioned it here :
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Beam-subdivided-at-non-periodic-intervals-tt164174.html#none
Cheers,
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Re: Question for all LilyPond users (especially power users)
I had answered this but it seems my mobile had trashed the message ... As we've been discussing earlier I still think this a tremenduous achievement. I don't know whether this reflects the latest state but I very much enjoyed engraving a score with five different fonts. See https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49478835/lilypond-fonts/lilypond-fonts-haydn-cadenza.tar.gz (this is a non-permanent link and may be removed any time). If you haven't gone other ways in the meantime I still think that openlilylib would be a suitable place for that, particularly after the current reorganization has completed. Incorporating into LilyPond itself will impose a number of issues, e.g. how to distribute the fonts? They aren't produced from sources and can't easily be built together with LilyPond. Best Urs Am 09.07.2014 13:56, schrieb SoundsFromSound: tisimst wrote Greetings, All! I have worked out a very nice way to switch between notation fonts in LilyPond, both on a global document level and a local usage level. Up until now, there were only a couple of music fonts available that were really usable on a professional level: / Emmentaler / (the default, built-in font) and / Gonville / . There are also / LilyJAZZ / and / Bravura / (a SMuFL-compliant font), but they require some serious hacks to make them work and they have trouble with even some basic notation elements (like tempo markings, arpeggios, etc.). I am pleased to announce that I have several new music fonts, both in OTF and SVG formats, that I'd like people to be able to use, but this requires a patch to a single file, so anyone wanting to patch the file can do it with little effort. It makes using other fonts as easy as putting a single \include statement at the top of a .ly file. I use them all the time, but I really want to share with the community that has shared so much with me. * My question is this: / Is anyone interested in this? /* I know that the notation font is a small part of the way a score looks, but I think we can all recall a time when a score just didn't look that good and it was because of the notation elements, not just the score layout. And, just so you know, I have LilyJAZZ (including all the latest and greatest efforts for chords and a bunch of missing articulations, characters, etc.) and Bravura (my version is called / Profondo / , for OFL licensing reasons) working perfectly as alternate music fonts. In addition, these all provide access to all the ancient notation glyphs as well, so nothing is lost (except for Gonville, which I haven't taken the time to update at all). I eagerly await your responses! Happily Engraving, Abraham I'm certainly interested in hearing more about this! - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Question-for-all-LilyPond-users-especially-power-users-tp164178p164183.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Question for all LilyPond users (especially power users)
Hi all, I still think this a tremenduous achievement. +1 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49478835/lilypond-fonts/lilypond-fonts-haydn-cadenza.tar.gz Amazing! Each font has its compelling points, doesn’t it? In any case, *choice* is a great thing. Thanks [to all], Kieren. ___ Kieren MacMillan, composer www: http://www.kierenmacmillan.info email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
N'th time bar markup
Dear List,
The example given in the docs
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/long-repeats#index-volta-bracket-with-text
for n'th time bar with arbitrary text uses a separate definition for
the markup to be placed in the n'th time marker. This is a bit awkward
to output from Denemo, and would not help clarity in any case, as the
definition would only be used once and would be widely separated from
its use.
So, I would like to inline the markup, but I'm having trouble figuring
out what scheme is seeing for the defined value. I've put in a
#(display ...) to print out the scheme representation, but I'm not quite
up to deciphering this. So if someone could put me out of my misery and
say what needs to go in place of the in the following to allow me
to uncomment those lines and drop the definition at the head, I would be
grateful.
\version 2.18.0
voltaAdLib = \markup { 1. 2. 3... \text \italic { ad lib. } }
#(display voltaAdLib)
\relative c'' {
c1
% \set Score.repeatCommands =
% #(let ((voltaAdLib ?)) (list(list 'volta voltaAdLib) 'start-repeat))
c4 b d e
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta 4.) end-repeat)
f1
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
}
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Re: I was unable to import an xml ogan file from Musescore - update
2014-07-10 21:52 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: See my file attached, all the measures are commented except the first and the problem is still present. This is not yet a minimal example. You should dig more. Try commenting staff 2 and leave only staff one. Be careful to comment in the right places; xmlcopyeditor will print a warning if there's something wrong. Run again musicxml2ly and see if the error is still present. I reduced it to a single measure and I can import in Denemo. In Denemo I see there's an upbeat or pickup at the beginning. Maybe this is what causes trouble? I've just tried musicxml2ly developed by philomelos¹ and I get a different error: Traceback (most recent call last): File ./musicxml2ly, line 3369, in module main() File ./musicxml2ly, line 3363, in main voices = convert (filename, options) File ./musicxml2ly, line 3241, in convert (voices, staff_info) = get_all_voices (parts) File ./musicxml2ly, line 2837, in get_all_voices part_ly_voices[n] = musicxml_voice_to_lily_voice (v) File ./musicxml2ly, line 2644, in musicxml_voice_to_lily_voice if (beamed == begin or slurred == start) and (len(voice._elements[idx+1].get_typed_children (musicxml.Lyric)) != 0): IndexError: list index out of range ¹ https://github.com/Philomelos/lilypond-musicxml2ly-dev ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE score-partwise PUBLIC -//Recordare//DTD MusicXML 2.0 Partwise//EN http://www.musicxml.org/dtds/partwise.dtd; score-partwise identification encoding softwareMuseScore 1.2/software encoding-date2014-06-08/encoding-date /encoding /identification defaults scaling millimeters7.056/millimeters tenths40/tenths /scaling page-layout page-height1683.67/page-height page-width1190.48/page-width page-margins type=even left-margin56.6893/left-margin right-margin56.6893/right-margin top-margin56.6893/top-margin bottom-margin113.379/bottom-margin /page-margins page-margins type=odd left-margin56.6893/left-margin right-margin56.6893/right-margin top-margin56.6893/top-margin bottom-margin113.379/bottom-margin /page-margins /page-layout /defaults credit page=1 credit-words default-x=595.238 default-y=1626.98 font-size=24 justify=center valign=topLaudes et gratia miserachs organo/credit-words /credit part-list part-group type=start number=1 group-symbolbrace/group-symbol /part-group score-part id=P1 part-nameOrgano/part-name part-abbreviationOrg./part-abbreviation score-instrument id=P1-I3 instrument-nameOrgano/instrument-name /score-instrument midi-instrument id=P1-I3 midi-channel1/midi-channel midi-program20/midi-program volume78.7402/volume pan0/pan /midi-instrument /score-part /part-list part id=P1 measure number=1 width=178.05 print system-layout system-margins left-margin107.78/left-margin right-margin0.00/right-margin /system-margins top-system-distance214.12/top-system-distance /system-layout staff-layout number=2 staff-distance65.00/staff-distance /staff-layout /print attributes divisions2/divisions key fifths-1/fifths modemajor/mode /key time beats4/beats beat-type4/beat-type /time staves2/staves clef number=1 signG/sign line2/line /clef clef number=2 signF/sign line4/line /clef /attributes note default-x=85.03 default-y=-25.00 pitch stepA/step octave4/octave /pitch duration4/duration voice1/voice typehalf/type stemup/stem staff1/staff notations slur type=start number=1/ /notations /note /measure /part /score-partwise ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Optical spacing -- no more?
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:39 AM, James Harkins jamshar...@gmail.com
wrote:
Something I've been wondering about for awhile... lilypond.org boasts
of optical spacing for notes with alternating up and down stems,
but it seems this feature has been lost somewhere (or disabled by
default). In this example, it's quite plain to my eyes that the stems
are not equally spaced within the bars.
\version 2.18.2
\relative c'' { e4 c, f' d, g' e, a' f, }
Which is correct -- the website, or LP's behavior?
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James,
I would have to disagree with you. I think the notes look very nicely
spaced. I think you are misunderstanding what optical spacing
implies. It doesn't mean that the stems will be placed equidistant from
each other. That would look awful because of how far that would push
the noteheads out of place! Rather, it's a balancing act of how much
whitespace our eyes perceive due to how close the stems AND noteheads
appear to be when the stems are in opposite directions. An up-stem,
down-stem pair will tend to push each other farther away _a little_
because the eye wants more whitespace between them. A down-stem,
up-stem pair will tend to pull towards each other _a little_ because
the eye wants less whitespace between them.
Attached is a pictogram of the paper columns of your snippet. Notice
the difference in how far a down-stem notehead is from an up-stem
notehead (2.66 staff spaces) and vice-versa (3.30 staff spaces). They
are not equal because of the optical spacing engine. If they were equal
(at 2.98 staff spaces), the up-stem/down-stem pairs would look too
close together and the down-stem/up-stem pairs would look too far
apart, as exemplified in the LilyPond essay:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/essay/engraving-details#optical-spacing
In my opinion, I'd say the optical spacing is alive and kicking!
Hope that helps.
-Abraham
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Re: Beam subdivided at non-periodic intervals
I was equally surprised to see my mail get logged so long after I sent it. It either went to a moderation queue, or perhaps stuck with the email gremlings. Sorry for your double-effort on this one...if there's any positive, I was glad to read your concurrence. On Jul 10, 2014, at 12:03 AM, Pierre Perol-Schneider pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Javier, 2014-07-09 8:11 GMT+02:00 Javier Ruiz-Alma jav...@ruiz-alma.com: The \subdivideBeams statement adds the unwanted subdivisions at the time signature beats. Hum, strange... You've written that before my mail and I just recieved it this morning!? I'm not sure to understand how this list works but happy to see that we came to the same conclusion. ;) Cheers, Pierre ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: List defect?
I've no idea, and don't see it as clearly a defect _of the list_. Over the past few days I've had emails straggling in a day- or-so late from _several_ forums. Richard Shann wrote: On Thu, 2014-07-10 at 14:53 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote: Hello, now there definitely seems to be something wrong with mail delivery on the list. I too have been receiving the emails on the list in haphazard order over the past few days. What else I've noticed (over a month or so) is complaints from the postmaster of this list about excessive bounces - I don't get this from other lists. Richard Some people already reported they were not receiving some posts at all. With me, some posts pop up another time two days or so after they were originally sent (including my own). Do any of you know what might be going on? And where to eventually report this buggy behaviour? Yours, Simon ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: List defect?
Simon Albrecht wrote Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:53 PM now there definitely seems to be something wrong with mail delivery on the list. Some people already reported they were not receiving some posts at all. With me, some posts pop up another time two days or so after they were originally sent (including my own). Do any of you know what might be going on? And where to eventually report this buggy behaviour? This effect can be caused by one of the mail relays en route going down. Other mail relays then have to queue up the mail destined for that relay. They retry periodically, and when it comes back up the queued mail is resent, but often it can take quite a time (many hours) to catch up, so delayed mail comes interspersed with new mail. Trevor ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Question for all LilyPond users (especially power users)
We'd already started to discuss this, and I'd be happy to continue on that track (for all: it was awesome to engrave a score with five different fonts). If you haven't worked in a different direction in the meantime I'd still say that openlilylib is the suitable place for that. Even more after the current reorganization has been completed. Best Urs On 9. Juli 2014 13:56:48 MESZ, SoundsFromSound soundsfromso...@gmail.com wrote: tisimst wrote Greetings, All! I have worked out a very nice way to switch between notation fonts in LilyPond, both on a global document level and a local usage level. Up until now, there were only a couple of music fonts available that were really usable on a professional level: / Emmentaler / (the default, built-in font) and / Gonville / . There are also / LilyJAZZ / and / Bravura / (a SMuFL-compliant font), but they require some serious hacks to make them work and they have trouble with even some basic notation elements (like tempo markings, arpeggios, etc.). I am pleased to announce that I have several new music fonts, both in OTF and SVG formats, that I'd like people to be able to use, but this requires a patch to a single file, so anyone wanting to patch the file can do it with little effort. It makes using other fonts as easy as putting a single \include statement at the top of a .ly file. I use them all the time, but I really want to share with the community that has shared so much with me. * My question is this: / Is anyone interested in this? /* I know that the notation font is a small part of the way a score looks, but I think we can all recall a time when a score just didn't look that good and it was because of the notation elements, not just the score layout. And, just so you know, I have LilyJAZZ (including all the latest and greatest efforts for chords and a bunch of missing articulations, characters, etc.) and Bravura (my version is called / Profondo / , for OFL licensing reasons) working perfectly as alternate music fonts. In addition, these all provide access to all the ancient notation glyphs as well, so nothing is lost (except for Gonville, which I haven't taken the time to update at all). I eagerly await your responses! Happily Engraving, Abraham I'm certainly interested in hearing more about this! - composer | sound designer LilyPond Tutorials (for beginners) -- http://bit.ly/bcl-lilypond -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Question-for-all-LilyPond-users-especially-power-users-tp164178p164183.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Dot-separated list as music function argument
Am 09.07.14 15:15, schrieb David Kastrup: No. If we have some Word in the place of a function argument, LilyPond tries interpreting it as a string first. If the predicate refuses to accept that, the next try is as a one-element symbol list. If that gets accepted, the parser checks whether this symbol list can be extended with .AnotherWord following. If the predicate refuses a symbol list, however, LilyPond tries feeding it a single symbol before giving up. Still, wrapped predicates do not get any special handling by th parser. No predicate at all gets special handling by the parser in music functions any more (as of issue 3618, version 2.17.29). You can wrap them all you want. LilyPond actually calls the predicates (often several times, sometimes on partially parsed input) to make its parsing decisions. thank you, now I understand But then that change has not had a lot of publicity: you'll see that (apart from administrative comments) I have been the only commenter on issue and code review. I see Things are different for markup command arguments: those have not gotten the whole treatment that music/scheme function arguments have. It would be a completely different bag of tricks to do so in markup mode. I thought so. It would be nice, but I would not call it that important. Best, Jan-Peter ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chord Symbols with inversions
On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 17:53 +0200, David Kastrup wrote:
{... the actual chords }
Sigh. No minimal working example. At any rate, you probably would
just
want \override TimeSignature ... in the context mod since there is no
grob called ChordNames.
sorry - and you are quite right, of course. I'll set about constructing
an example as I am still stuck with getting the initial time signature.
One of the downsides of working with Denemo is that you don't get a
minimal example for free, you have to hack out some verbiage :(
Richard
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Re: Chord Symbols with inversions
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:
Hi list,
With notation like
\version 2.18.0
\chordmode {
c/g
}
I can get chord names with /G at the end to indicate a G added below the
root of the chord.
With the notation
\new ChordNames
{
c' e' g'1
}
I can get the chord symbol C typeset, but is there any way to get the
C/G symbol typeset via this syntax? Obviously, if I just add the low G
it interprets it as a chord on the root G.
\withMusicProperty bass ##t g
But I don't think that this is documented/guaranteed as a stable
interface to this kind of functionality. There is also a more complex
property inversion (to be accompanied by octavation). Digging
through the code did not really suggest to me how these are supposed to
fit together.
I suspect that there was some original design, but after patching it up
afterwards to account for some problems, it might be indiscernible.
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Re: Proportional-Notation Durations
2014-07-09 0:24 GMT+02:00 PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu: Hi List. I'm looking for a LilyPond way to specify note duration in a Proportional Notation context using exactly _one_ stemless notehead type. Perhaps the first option is a mid-level horizontal line extending distance-X from the notehead. (The space following would indicate silence.) But I want ask: has anyone done this instead with the _hairpin_ -- attached to a note-head via pitch params, tapered to a param-specified length, and filled? If not, or in any case, any other ideas? Thanks in advance for your time. Pete Hi Pete, do you mean something like: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2012-12/msg00145.html ? Somewhere on my computer I've an updated version, if the link shows what you're looking for. Cheers, Harm ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Follow-up question to alternate music fonts
All, Is there anyone who is VERY against distributing music fonts in binary form (i.e., as otf, svg, etc.files)? I just don't see how we can make other music fonts available by forcing them to have a metafont source file. I guess that could be nice, but it seems like so much work to do that. I have about 4 or 5 alternate music fonts that people could use and I certainly don't want to convert them to metafont. They are currently designed and built with fontforge. What do you think? -Abraham -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Follow-up-question-to-alternate-music-fonts-tp164259.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: minor chords
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 22:03:49 -0400 Kieren MacMillan kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi Simon (et al.), I think this is one of the few questions where it’s really difficult to establish a standard. Agreed. It’s the one big disappointment that I have in Gould’s engraving book: she doesn’t even address the subject at all!! Plus: there’s still some leap between the lilypond standard output – which one may usually take as „standard” indeed – and other options which are available if one looks for them. I’ve always found the Lilypond chord names default(s) to be totally unacceptable; I have a ChordNames.ly standard include, which changes font, size, placement, and contains an almost complete rewrite of the chord symbols. There was a standard that arose because of the extensive expansion of chord names necessary for bop. Lead sheet writers abandoned all symbols except the sharp and flat, and the only useful addition has been the slash basses of the sixties. I remember how much I hated the triangle for maj7 on sight, because the triangle hastily drawn can be mistaken for almost anything. This 1940's usage was contrary to the love for cryptic symbols like the little o's that were introduced in pop music. I got over disliking the C6 for a first inversion Bm7. Even a C4 or Csus is tolerable, but Csus4 is better. C2 is better than C9omit7, but there is nothing wrong with the latter. It's a matter of style. Since any chord can be easily typed with an ordinary font, the newest standard, from the 1940's, is IMO the best. I enter chords as text anyway. You can find a sharp and flat in most fonts, or just use # and b: Gm13(#7b5#9#11)/g but Gmmaj7, Gmmaj79 Why can't I enter chords as they will print with your system? It's not even an option now. Regards, Rale -- For All Guitar Beginners: The pages of very easy solos missing from all of the published guitar methods of others. For All Guitarists: solos, duets, and peerless guitar exercises David Raleigh Arnold http://www.openguitar.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Chord Symbols with inversions
Richard Shann rich...@rshann.plus.com writes:
Thank you for this. With that I have now got as far as the attached
sample in trying to typeset a jazz chord sheet (the chords are just
nonsense but most of the needed elements are there now).
Attached is the sort of sheet I'm trying to use LilyPond to improve on.
I think I have most of the elements now, though the time signature
stubbornly refuses to become numeric with
I'm trying to override TimeSignature style in ChordNames thus:
\new ChordNames \with {
\override BarLine.bar-extent = #'(-2 . 2)
\consists Bar_engraver
\consists Time_signature_engraver
\override ChordNames.TimeSignature #'style = #'numeric
}
{... the actual chords }
Sigh. No minimal working example. At any rate, you probably would just
want \override TimeSignature ... in the context mod since there is no
grob called ChordNames.
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Re: Question for all LilyPond users (especially power users)
Schneidy wrote I did that, but I let it unfinished for a couple of weeks now... see = http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/LilyJAZZ-in-v2-18-td162423.html#a162444 Pierre Yes! Thank you, Pierre, for your good work! I had fun making some updates to it. I think there are enough people interested in the Jazzy hand-written font that we should get this incorporated better. Since it is only available in binary font formats, is openlilylib the best place to put it? The only thing is, if we want to make the use of LilyJAZZ easier, it really needs the patched file that I mentioned in the initial post. That allows LilyPond to put all the LilyJAZZ glyphs (or any other music font) into use without a lot of manual labor with the potential of things getting missed and not looking right. -Abraham -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Question-for-all-LilyPond-users-especially-power-users-tp164178p164302.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
