Re: Lilypond, Linux (Fedora) and Vim

2015-02-13 Thread Philip Rhoades

Kevin,


On 2015-02-13 18:54, Kevin Tough wrote:

Once again my favorite linux OS Fedora is giving me  some problems. The
implementation of Lilypond with Vim is good. Packaged with Lilypond
2.18.2 the software is reasonably up to date. Networking with Fedora 
has
recently given me problems with one notebook no longer making it's 
wired

connection.
I'd be grateful for a few suggestions of worthy OS alternatives in the
linux world that also implement Lilypond. My searches some months ago
surprised me that Lilypond standard implementation by many Linix
flavours was not so up to date.



I too use these tools although I have not been making much use of 
Lilypond recently due to other demands.  I am currently using F21 and 
would be happy to try and replicate your problems and maybe help find a 
solution if you like . .


Regards,

Phil.



Namaste,
Kevin Tough


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Re: [Announce] Boulez anyone?

2015-02-13 Thread Noeck
Thanks a lot Abraham, it is just great to see all these styles.

You know that, but for all who don't: straight flags and other flag styles can
also be easily set in LilyPond for fonts that support it like the default font:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#rhythms-using-alternative-flag-styles

Cheers,
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Re: global marks

2015-02-13 Thread Johan Vromans
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:20:01 -0800
Flaming Hakama by Elaine ela...@flaminghakama.com wrote:

 In particular, how much can you put in the \markVoice?  Would this
 approach work for:
 
 ...
 o Repeats

Yes, unless you use \unfoldRepeats to generate MIDI. 

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Re: Broken ligatures in recent LilyPond versions

2015-02-13 Thread Werner LEMBERG

 So do I understand you correctly, that if a font contains a ligature
 for a given sequence of characters, then Lilypond will always
 typeset that character sequence using the ligature,

It is more complicated than that.  Here is the ideal model for
OpenType ligature handling.

  1. Get the current script (for example `latn' for Latin).
  2. Get the current language (for example `TRK ' for Turkish – yes,
 the final space is part of the four-letter tag).
  3. Activate the default features for the current script/language
 pair.
  4. Let the user control additional features of the current font.
  5. Typeset the input string, using the feature set related to items
 3 and 4.

Right now, *none* of those items are controlled by Lilypond;
everything is handled by Pango.  While this is the right thing
basically, we lack control in case the default settings don't apply.

Items 1 and 2 are initially controlled by the locale, but the user
should of course be able to override those values.  Item 3 belongs
partly to items 1 and 2 and partly to the font's capabilities.  Item 4
is the place to control small caps, old-style figures, and the like
(and it hurts most that Lilypond can't handle that currently).

Now let's come back to the `fi' ligature.  I mentioned Turkish for a
good reason: If you are in a `latn/TRK' environment, the font *must
not* apply the `fi' ligature!  In Turkish words you can find both `fi'
and `fı', and using the `fi' ligature would thus confuse the reader.
So even if the font in question has an `fi' ligature, you won't get it
by default in a Turkish environment.

 and it is not possible to typeset them as separate glyphs?

Unicode defines a special, invisible character, U+200C `ZERO WIDTH
NON-JOINER' (usually abbreviated as `ZWNJ').  To break up a ligature,
you should insert this character between the ligature elements.

 That is to say, the following naive example is not possible to
 implement, because if FontA defines that f followed by i will always
 be ligatured, it is not possible (at least in Lilypond) to typeset
 them separately?

 \markup this is FontA with a ligature: fi
 \markup this is FontA without a ligature: fi

It is indeed dependent on the font whether it has an `fi' ligature or
not.  However, if it has one, and you want to avoid it, you should use
ZWNJ:

  \markup { this is FontC that has an fi ligature,
but I want to avoid it: f \char ##200C i }

Here, I've used `\char' for clarity.  In languages where the use of
ZWNJ is essential (e.g., Arabic), you would rather enter the character
directly.

 And if there is a ligature for AE, then likewise for the capitalized
 vowels?

There doesn't exist an `AE' ligature; `Æ' is a separate character.

It is an important thing to avoid mixing up input and output
ligatures.  An output ligature is mapping some glyph combinations to
other glyphs.  An input ligature is just a convenience for better
input.  For example, in LaTeX it is custom to write

  ``foo''

to get “foo”.  The font itself doesn't contain ligatures for `` or '';
it is LaTeX that maps this letter combination to separate glyphs.
Similarly, LaTeX maps `foo' to ‘foo’ (thus my bad habit to use ` and '
everywhere :-)


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Re: Lilypond, Linux (Fedora) and Vim

2015-02-13 Thread Stjepan Horvat
I use archlinux and its very cool couse of AUR user reposatory..U can
install frescobaldi from it or apps directly from git..I use vim too.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Philip Rhoades p...@philiprhoades.org
wrote:

 Kevin,


 On 2015-02-13 18:54, Kevin Tough wrote:

 Once again my favorite linux OS Fedora is giving me  some problems. The
 implementation of Lilypond with Vim is good. Packaged with Lilypond
 2.18.2 the software is reasonably up to date. Networking with Fedora has
 recently given me problems with one notebook no longer making it's wired
 connection.
 I'd be grateful for a few suggestions of worthy OS alternatives in the
 linux world that also implement Lilypond. My searches some months ago
 surprised me that Lilypond standard implementation by many Linix
 flavours was not so up to date.



 I too use these tools although I have not been making much use of Lilypond
 recently due to other demands.  I am currently using F21 and would be happy
 to try and replicate your problems and maybe help find a solution if you
 like . .

 Regards,

 Phil.


  Namaste,
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Re: Lilypond, Linux and Vim

2015-02-13 Thread Johan Vromans
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:54:58 +0100
Kevin Tough ke...@toughlife.org wrote:

 Once again my favorite linux OS Fedora is giving me  some problems.

Oh? Let's see...

 The implementation of Lilypond with Vim is good.

Ok.

 Packaged with Lilypond 2.18.2 the software is reasonably up to date.

I'd call this 'up to date' since 2.18.2 is the latest stable release.

 Networking with Fedora has
 recently given me problems with one notebook no longer making it's wired
 connection.

Ok, so you have networking problems with one notebook.
I'd suggest to sort this out instead of moving to another distro for this
reason only.

-- Johan
   Using RedHat/Fedora since 1995

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Re: [Announce] Boulez anyone?

2015-02-13 Thread tisimst
You know, I am 100% sure I knew about this at one point, but since I had never 
used it myself, I guess I had forgotten about it :)

- Abraham

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 13, 2015, at 4:16 AM, Noeck [via Lilypond] 
 ml-node+s1069038n171813...@n5.nabble.com wrote:
 
 Thanks a lot Abraham, it is just great to see all these styles. 
 
 You know that, but for all who don't: straight flags and other flag styles 
 can 
 also be easily set in LilyPond for fonts that support it like the default 
 font: 
 http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#rhythms-using-alternative-flag-styles
 
 Cheers, 
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Re: Encapsulating tweak and markup in a variable

2015-02-13 Thread Klaus Blum
Salut Jacques, 

defining your command as a function should do the trick:

%---

\version 2.18.2

UN_E = #(define-music-function (parser location) ()
#{
  -\tweak TextScript.self-alignment-X #CENTER
  -\markup\large\bold\with-color #magenta 1E
#})

{g2 \mf ^\UN_E}

%

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Re: Encapsulating tweak and markup in a variable

2015-02-13 Thread Klaus Blum
P.S.: You can also pass parameters to that function: 

% ---

\version 2.18.2

F = #(define-music-function (parser location text) (string?)
#{
  -\tweak TextScript.self-alignment-X #CENTER
  -\markup\large\bold\with-color #magenta $text
#})

{g2 \mf ^\F1E}

% -   or:   ---

\version 2.18.2

F = #(define-music-function (parser location col text) (color? string?)
#{
  -\tweak TextScript.self-alignment-X #CENTER
  -\markup\large\bold\with-color $col $text
#})

{g2 \mf ^\F #magenta 1E}

% 

...just discovered Pierre's response. That's really easier!

Cheers, 
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Re: Cadence treble clef

2015-02-13 Thread tisimst
Joram,

That isn't hard at all. Which would you prefer? 

1. A brand-new font that has the sharper Cadence treble clef and the rest 
Emmentaler (with a new name, just for you). 

OR

2. A custom Cadence font with the treble clef changes you requested, to replace 
the one you currently have installed, that you still use to bring in the treble 
clef through an override?

Either one is fine with me. 

- Abraham

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 12, 2015, at 4:13 PM, Noeck [via Lilypond] 
 ml-node+s1069038n171789...@n5.nabble.com wrote:
 
 Dear Abraham, 
 
 I like your treble clef with a straight diagonal line in the Cadence font. On 
 the other hand, I prefer the sharper inner edges of Emmentaler. So I end up 
 using Emmentaler and override the Clef font, which is a solution I am 
 satisfied 
 with even though it is not perfect. 
 
 My question to this: Does it require a whole new font to reconcile the two 
 things? To have the Emmentaler clefs but the treble clefs with a straighter 
 line 
 and at the same time no roundings along this diagonal line. 
 If it is complicated, just forget about this mail. If there is an easy way to 
 handle it (a font with just the treble clefs or I don’t know, I am fine with 
 overrides) and not too much work for you, would you do me this favour? 
 
 Cheers, 
 Joram 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Encapsulating tweak and markup in a variable

2015-02-13 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Jacques, Hi Klaus,

You can do also :

%%
\version 2.18.2

UN_E = -\tweak self-alignment-X #CENTER -\markup\large\bold\with-color
#magenta 1E

{
  g2 \mf ^\UN_E
}

%%

Cheers,
Pierre

2015-02-13 15:36 GMT+01:00 Klaus Blum benbigno...@gmx.de:

 Salut Jacques,

 defining your command as a function should do the trick:

 %---

 \version 2.18.2

 UN_E = #(define-music-function (parser location) ()
 #{
   -\tweak TextScript.self-alignment-X #CENTER
   -\markup\large\bold\with-color #magenta 1E
 #})

 {g2 \mf ^\UN_E}

 %

 Cheers,
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Encapsulating tweak and markup in a variable

2015-02-13 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello folks,

In order to produce home-make fingerings, I use the code below, a solution 
supplied by users of this list:

%%

\version 2.19.15

Introduction =  \relative g, {
  \markLengthOn

  \clef bass \key bes \major \time 2/4 | % 1
  \tempo Moderato 4 = 108

  g2 \mf
  -\tweak TextScript.self-alignment-X #CENTER
  ^\markup{\large\bold\with-color #magenta 1E}
  | % 2
  g2
  \bar ||
}

{\Introduction}

%%



My attempt to define a variable UN_E to obtain the same effect:

%%

UN_E = {
  \tweak TextScript.self-alignment-X #CENTER
  \markup\large\bold\with-color #magenta 1E
}

{g2 \mf ^\markup{\UN_E}

%%


leads to error messages:

Users/menu/Documents/LaTeX/PartitionsLilypond/DoigteAndTweakAsVariable.ly:26:3: 
Erreur : type d'argument erroné pour 3.
 Attendait symbol list or music, (markup #:large (#:bold (#:with-color (list 
1.0 0.0 1.0) 1E))) trouvé
  
  \markup\large\bold\with-color #magenta 1E
/Users/menu/Documents/LaTeX/PartitionsLilypond/DoigteAndTweakAsVariable.ly:29:18:
 Erreur : syntax error, unexpected MUSIC_IDENTIFIER
{g2 \mf ^\markup{
 \UN_E}
/Users/menu/Documents/LaTeX/PartitionsLilypond/DoigteAndTweakAsVariable.ly:29:24:
 Erreur : Fichier principal non fini
{g2 \mf ^\markup{\UN_E}


Thanks for your help to sort this out!

JM



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Re: change the font for all markups

2015-02-13 Thread ole

Am 12.02.2015 um 20:53 schrieb tisimst tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com:

 Ole Schmidt wrote
 Am 12.02.2015 um 11:50 schrieb Richard Shann lt;
 
 richard@.plus
 
 gt;:
 
 On Thu, 2015-02-12 at 12:20 +0100, Ole Schmidt wrote:
 Am 12.02.2015 um 12:04 schrieb Noeck lt;
 
 noeck.marburg@
 
 gt;:
 
 Hi,
 
 this works for me (taken from Frescobaldi Insert  Document fonts …):
 
 \paper {
 fonts = #
 (make-pango-font-tree
  Times New Roman
  Nimbus Sans
  Luxi Mono
 (/ (* staff-height pt) 2.5))
 }
 { a^\markup { Test \typewriter code } }
 
 Of course, the fonts must be installed.
 
 replace Times New Roman with Luxi Mono or whatever typerwriter font
 you have, the what would have been in Times will come out in Mono...
 
 Richard
 
 that makes sense and works!
 
 thanks!
 
 
 
 HTH,
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 I have lots of markups and don't want to change them all manually.
 
 
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 While it works, the effect is that the typewriter font becomes your MAIN
 font (since that is what LilyPond uses the \roman font-family for). If you
 are okay with that, great. If this is not desired, you can do:
 
  \override Score.TextScript.font-family = #'typewriter
 
 This only affects \markups and other simple text.
 
 HTH,
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Thanks for that!

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Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-02-13 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Joram,

 did I miss something or what happened to GASP?

It’s on a (hopefully brief) hiatus, while I finish two large commissions (one 
two-act stage musical, one concert-length multidisciplinary work).

 Is there any repository and plans how to contribute?

Urs and I are discussing (off-line) how to proceed — when we have a solid plan, 
we will bring it back to the list.

All the best,
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Re: [Announce] Boulez anyone?

2015-02-13 Thread tisimst
That's correct, David. No overrides necessary. 

- Abraham

Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 13, 2015, at 5:13 AM, David Stephen Grant [via Lilypond] 
 ml-node+s1069038n171819...@n5.nabble.com wrote:
 
 Oh, but I guess the Boulez font does this automatically, right?
 Thanks!
 David
 
 On 13 February 2015 at 13:10, David Stephen Grant [hidden email] wrote:
 I've been wondering - is there an easy way to use the built-in straight 
 LilyPond flags also in metronome marks and markups?
 
 \version 2.19.15
 
 \relative c' {
   \override Score.Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag
   
   \time 2/4
   \autoBeamOff
 
   \tempo Default flag: 8 = 120
   c8 d16 c32 d64 \acciaccatura { c8 }
   d64^\markup { Default flag:\note-by-number #3 #0 #UP } r4
 }
 
 On 13 February 2015 at 12:15, Noeck [hidden email] wrote:
 Thanks a lot Abraham, it is just great to see all these styles.
 
 You know that, but for all who don't: straight flags and other flag styles 
 can
 also be easily set in LilyPond for fonts that support it like the default 
 font:
 http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#rhythms-using-alternative-flag-styles
 
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Re: Augmentation Dot Appearance

2015-02-13 Thread thepocketwade
That's perfect.  Thanks a lot.



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Re: global marks

2015-02-13 Thread Simon Albrecht

Hello,

I usually don’t write this in the \score block, but instead define a 
music function like

global = #(define-music-function (parser location mus) (ly:music?)
  #{  \helper
\relative { \key as \minor \time 9/16 \partial 8. \autoBeamOff
  $mus }
  #})
with \helper defined as  a stream of silent rests and all kinds of 
events (\tempo, \time, \override, \bar etc.) which are common to all 
voices. This really simplifies work for me.

Music is then entered as
soprano = \global { c'8. | f4.~ 8. }

Yours, Simon

Am 13.02.2015 um 01:20 schrieb Flaming Hakama by Elaine:


I am inclined to agree with Kieren. Manually putting the marks in
EVERY
staff can be tedious and error prone, depending on how many you
plan to use.
The better way is to create another voice that only contains
spacer rests
with the marks at the appropriate position(s), then make it
simultaneous
with a voice in each staff. That way you only have to define where
the marks
are once, but it is replicated perfectly.


I am wondering if folks would mind commenting on their experience 
using this type of approach:


new Staff 
  \new Voice \markVoice
  \new Voice \partI


In particular, how much can you put in the \markVoice? Would this 
approach work for:


o Marks
o Tempi
o Time signatures
o Key signatures
o Repeats
o Double bar lines
o Symbols like coda, DS, fermata

Also, if you are using tags, is this how you would combine these syntaxes:

new Staff 
  \new Voice \markVoice
  \new Voice \keepWithTag #'tagPartI \partI



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Re: Grand Advanced Stylesheet Project (GASP)

2015-02-13 Thread Noeck
Hi Kieren,

thanks for the info. I reviewed my stylesheets and now I am ready
whenever you are. I just didn't want to loose touch with this initiative.

Cheers,
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Re: How to encapsulate TextSpanner?

2015-02-13 Thread Simon Albrecht

Am 12.02.2015 um 23:40 schrieb Kevin Barry:


On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:32 PM, H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx 
mailto:hst...@quickfur.ath.cx wrote:


Why doesn't it work when I use \override instead of \tweak?


I think \override doesn't work because it gets between the note and 
\startTextSpan (which always has to follow a note). \tweak doesn't 
`break' that link, so to speak.
Using \displayScheme we can say more about this: an \override creates an 
element to sequentialMusic, which separates the post-event 
\startTextSpan from its note. \tweak is a music function, which in this 
case takes a post-event, modifies it and returns a post-event again.
Concerning the hyphens: When I last tried to pack two tweaks into a 
variable, the hyphens seemed to be necessary in order for the second 
tweak to still belong into the variable definition, else it would have 
“hung around in mid-air”. Don’t know why this may work nevertheless.


Best regards, Simon



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Re: Lilypond, Linux and Vim

2015-02-13 Thread Kevin Tough
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 13:56 +0100, Johan Vromans wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 08:54:58 +0100
 Kevin Tough ke...@toughlife.org wrote:
 
  Once again my favorite linux OS Fedora is giving me  some problems.
 
 Oh? Let's see...
 
  The implementation of Lilypond with Vim is good.
 
 Ok.
 
  Packaged with Lilypond 2.18.2 the software is reasonably up to date.
 
 I'd call this 'up to date' since 2.18.2 is the latest stable release.
 
  Networking with Fedora has
  recently given me problems with one notebook no longer making it's wired
  connection.
 
 Ok, so you have networking problems with one notebook.
 I'd suggest to sort this out instead of moving to another distro for this
 reason only.
 
 -- Johan
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Hi Johan,
you are probably right. As a hobby .net programmer Fedora is likely good
to stay with. Some day, hopefully before I retire, I hope to be able to
give something back to Linux(Fedora), Vim and/or Lilypond.

I'll check if maybe I can solve this problem temporarily by setting up
the notebook with a wireless connection. The notebook is a Fujitzu Amilo
and probably rare, so I don't expect anyone to be able to help me on
hardware side.

Thanks for the tip.

Namaste,
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Re: Cadence treble clef

2015-02-13 Thread Noeck
Hi Abraham,

 That isn't hard at all. Which would you prefer? 
 
 1. A brand-new font that has the sharper Cadence treble clef and the
 rest Emmentaler (with a new name, just for you). 

Cool! I would prefer this. How about Greyerzer? It is a cheese quite
close to Emmentaler originwise. Am I right that in this case, it would
not matter whether I use this font completely or just for the clefs and
Emmentaler otherwise?


Independent from this, I think most beautiful handling of corners would
be in the middle of Emmentaler and Cadence. Looking at typographically
nice text fonts like Minion Pro or Linux Libertine and some others, my
take is (experts may correct me) this: Outer edges are almost never
infinitely sharp. There are no acute angles in the filled part.
But inner edges vary depending on how they would be drawn by hand. In
general, corners that arise by moving a pen are round (upper right part
of the e, the s, the lower left corner of the b) but corners that arise
from intersection of lines (x, where the curved parts of the n and m
meet the first straight line on the left) have sharp inner corners.

Translated to the clefs this would mean for the treble clef: The drop at
the lower end would be a bit rounded and the upper inner corner in the
upper loop (more towards Cadence) but the intersections along the
straight diagonal line would be sharp (more like Emmentaler).
For the bass clef, there would be no completely sharp corner.

Of course you can see that differently, but I think that is a reason why
I like these text fonts: They have a nice equilibrium between
clear/sharp lines and roundness.

Cheers,
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Re: Dotted ottava bracket

2015-02-13 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi,

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Pierre Perol-Schneider 
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Joram,

 Two things :
 1) Ottava_spanner_engraver is part of the Staff context, see :
 http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/internals/ottava_005fspanner_005fengraver
 2) for some reason LP spanners cannot reproduce dotted lines such as the
 one your looking for.


LilyPond draws both dotted lines and dashed lines using code for drawing
dashed lines.  This sounds irrational, but it makes sense in that a dot is
simply a dash where the line part has no length, but the rounded end-cap of
the line (a superimposed circle) appears.   Whenever you set style to
'dotted-line, the dash-fraction gets set to 0 automatically.

The problem is that line-thickness is getting added into the mix.  Thus, in
your original snippet, by setting thickness to 2, the program ends up
drawing a short line in addition to the rounded end caps.  Of course, if
you set thickness to 0, nothing appears--the end-cap has diameter of 0, too.

(See https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=4103 for a related
discussion.)

This is definitely a problem.  It doesn't look like this should be too hard
to fix.  (Famous last words.)  I'll see about making a patch.

--David
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Re: Levelling hairpins

2015-02-13 Thread Richard Shann
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 11:21 -0700, tisimst wrote:
 David,
 
 
 You have several options, but first would you mind providing a tiny
 example that shows these undesired offsets? Thanks

This is too well known to need an example, indeed one is given in the
documentation

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes#dynamics

where the solution is discussed

A Dynamics context is available to engrave dynamics on their own
horizontal line. Use spacer rests to indicate timing. (Notes in a
Dynamics context will also take up musical time, but will not be
engraved.) The Dynamics context can usefully contain some other items
such as text scripts, text spanners, and piano pedal marks. 

Richard

 
 
 - Abraham
 
 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:13 AM, David Sumbler [via Lilypond]
 [hidden email] wrote:
 One of my pieces has a lot of crescendo-decrescendo markings,
 using two 
 hairpins (i.e.  and  ). 
 
 Mostly these look fine; but just occasionally, because of the
 contours 
 of the melodic line above the hairpins, the crescendo and
 decrescendo 
 hairpins have different vertical placements and are not
 level. 
 
 What is the simplest way to get them both to appear at the
 level 
 required by the lower one of the two? 
 
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Levelling hairpins

2015-02-13 Thread David Sumbler
One of my pieces has a lot of crescendo-decrescendo markings, using two
hairpins (i.e.  and  ).

Mostly these look fine; but just occasionally, because of the contours
of the melodic line above the hairpins, the crescendo and decrescendo
hairpins have different vertical placements and are not level.

What is the simplest way to get them both to appear at the level
required by the lower one of the two?

David


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Re: Compile .ly via terminal in mac

2015-02-13 Thread Tim Walters

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond file.ly

On 2/13/15 7:16 AM, jrsv wrote:

Hello forum,

I am new user of lilypond. I need to help out a friend compiling his scores.
We have setup a dropbox shared folder and I am preparing an automator action
in Mac to compile the files automatically via terminal.

so far I only manage to open the file with lilypond, meaning that when I
type

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/MacOS/LilyPond file.ly

lilypond opens,

question is:

what would be the exact line to compile the file into a pdf??. Yes, I have
seen the documentation online but I cant seem to wrap my mind around it.

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Hello forum,

I am new user of lilypond. I need to help out a friend compiling his scores.
We have setup a dropbox shared folder and I am preparing an automator action
in Mac to compile the files automatically via terminal.

so far I only manage to open the file with lilypond, meaning that when I
type

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/MacOS/LilyPond file.ly

lilypond opens,

question is:

what would be the exact line to compile the file into a pdf??. Yes, I have
seen the documentation online but I cant seem to wrap my mind around it.

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Re: Compile .ly via terminal in mac

2015-02-13 Thread Hans Aberg

 On 13 Feb 2015, at 16:16, jrsv jsubiaval...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I am new user of lilypond. I need to help out a friend compiling his scores.
 We have setup a dropbox shared folder and I am preparing an automator action
 in Mac to compile the files automatically via terminal.

Make script called ‘lilypond’ somewhere in your PATH with the single line
exec /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/lilypond $@“

Then compile with
  lilypond name.ly

Open the output file with
  open name.pdf

Also try
  ls /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/
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Compile .ly via terminal in mac

2015-02-13 Thread jrsv
Hello forum,

I am new user of lilypond. I need to help out a friend compiling his scores.
We have setup a dropbox shared folder and I am preparing an automator action
in Mac to compile the files automatically via terminal.

so far I only manage to open the file with lilypond, meaning that when I
type 

/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/MacOS/LilyPond file.ly 

lilypond opens, 

question is: 

what would be the exact line to compile the file into a pdf??. Yes, I have
seen the documentation online but I cant seem to wrap my mind around it.

thank you for any help provided



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Re: Levelling hairpins

2015-02-13 Thread tisimst
David,

You have several options, but first would you mind providing a tiny example
that shows these undesired offsets? Thanks

- Abraham

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:13 AM, David Sumbler [via Lilypond] 
ml-node+s1069038n171841...@n5.nabble.com wrote:

 One of my pieces has a lot of crescendo-decrescendo markings, using two
 hairpins (i.e.  and  ).

 Mostly these look fine; but just occasionally, because of the contours
 of the melodic line above the hairpins, the crescendo and decrescendo
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 What is the simplest way to get them both to appear at the level
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Re: [Announce] Boulez anyone?

2015-02-13 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-02-13 13:10 GMT+01:00 David Stephen Grant da...@davidgrant.no:
 I've been wondering - is there an easy way to use the built-in straight
 LilyPond flags also in metronome marks and markups?

Yes, use:

  \override Score.MetronomeMark.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag
and
  \override TextScript.flag-style = #'modern-straight-flag

or for a single markup:

\markup
\override #'(flag-style . modern-straight-flag)
{
modern-straight-flag:
\note-by-number #3 #0 #UP
}


 \version 2.19.15

 \relative c' {
   \override Score.Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag

   \time 2/4
   \autoBeamOff

   \tempo Default flag: 8 = 120
   c8 d16 c32 d64 \acciaccatura { c8 }
   d64^\markup { Default flag:\note-by-number #3 #0 #UP } r4
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Re: [Announce] Boulez anyone?

2015-02-13 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-02-13 12:15 GMT+01:00 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de:
 Thanks a lot Abraham, it is just great to see all these styles.

 You know that, but for all who don't: straight flags and other flag styles can
 also be easily set in LilyPond for fonts that support it like the default 
 font:
 http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#rhythms-using-alternative-flag-styles

 Cheers,
 Joram



This snippet should demonstrate flat-flags as well.

I have to blame   -   myself:

commit baa9a1f25594917e9817aba61585a1a9caeeb217
Author: Thomas Morley thomasmorle...@gmail.com
Date:   Wed Oct 2 23:31:50 2013 +0200

Making flat flags available

 Issue 3591

The markup-command 'note-ny-number' and the relvant regression-
tests are extended, too.
The sippet 'using-alternative-flag-styles.ly' from
Documentation/snippets/new/ isn't changed for now, will be tackled
in a follow up.
^

I completely forgot it. Will do asap. hopefully...


Cheers,
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Re: Levelling hairpins

2015-02-13 Thread Peter Gentry
 
This is too well known to need an example, indeed one is given in the 
documentation

 
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes#dynamics

where the solution is discussed

A Dynamics context is available to engrave dynamics on their own horizontal 
line. Use spacer rests to indicate timing. (Notes in a
Dynamics context will also take up musical time, but will not be

engraved.) The Dynamics context can usefully contain some other items such as 
text scripts, text spanners, and piano pedal marks. 

Richard

 

This is very true but the dynamics context is very cumbersome for this purpose 
alone. 

Surely there must be a simpler way to align hairpins.

regards 
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Re: Levelling hairpins

2015-02-13 Thread David Stephen Grant
This is how I deal with it. Not exactly automatic, but works well for me :-)


\version 2.19.15

dynPadYOn =
#(define-music-function (parser location padding)(number?)
   #{
 \override DynamicLineSpanner.staff-padding = $padding
   #})

dynPadYOff =
#(define-music-function (parser location)()
   #{
 \revert DynamicLineSpanner.staff-padding
   #})

testMusic = {
  c'4 g c'\ a'\f | c'4\ g c' a'\p
}

{
  \testMusic | \break
  \dynPadYOn #4
  \testMusic | \break
  \dynPadYOff
  \testMusic
}

On 13 February 2015 at 21:53, Peter Gentry peter.gen...@sunscales.co.uk
wrote:



 This is too well known to need an example, indeed one is given in the
 documentation


 *http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes#dynamics*
 http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/expressive-marks-attached-to-notes

 where the solution is discussed

 A Dynamics context is available to engrave dynamics on their own
 horizontal line. Use spacer rests to indicate timing. (Notes in a Dynamics
 context will also take up musical time, but will not be

 engraved.) The Dynamics context can usefully contain some other items such
 as text scripts, text spanners, and piano pedal marks.

 Richard

 

 This is very true but the dynamics context is very cumbersome for this
 purpose alone.

 Surely there must be a simpler way to align hairpins.

 regards
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Re: Dotted ottava bracket

2015-02-13 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Joram,

Two things :
1) Ottava_spanner_engraver is part of the Staff context, see :
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/internals/ottava_005fspanner_005fengraver
2) for some reason LP spanners cannot reproduce dotted lines such as the
one your looking for.

So here's a kind-of :

{
  %% \override Staff.OttavaBracket.style = #'dotted-line % = won't produce
any real dotted line
  \override Staff.OttavaBracket.thickness = 1.5
  \override Staff.OttavaBracket.dash-period = 0.6
  \override Staff.OttavaBracket.dash-fraction = 0
  \ottava 1
  a''4^\markup {
\override #'(thickness . 2)
\override #'(off . 0.01)
\draw-dotted-line #'(10 . 0)
  }
  a'' a'' a''
  \ottava 0
}

HTH,
Pierre



2015-02-12 19:23 GMT+01:00 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de:

 Hi,

 I would like to change the ottava bracket style. The markup line on top
 shows
 what I want, the dashed ottava bracket is the closest I could achieve.
 However,
 I want it to look like the dotted line on top.

 \version 2.18.2
 {
   \override Score.OttavaBracket #'style = #'dotted-line %why is it still
 dashed?
   \override Score.OttavaBracket #'dash-period = 0.6
   \override Score.OttavaBracket #'thickness = 2
   %\override Score.OttavaBracket #'dash-fraction = 0.01 % does not really
 help
   \ottava 1
   a''4^\markup {
 \override #'(thickness . 2)
 \override #'(off . 0.01)
 \draw-dotted-line #'(10 . 0)
   }
   a'' a'' a''
   \ottava 0
 }

 Can anyone help me out?

 Joram

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Re: Hungarian Gregorian

2015-02-13 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi,

I'll try to find some time to take a look at it during the week end.

Cheers,
Pierre

2015-02-12 18:46 GMT+01:00 Rita Composer ritacompo...@gmail.com:

 Dear Users,

 We have still a problem with the dots. The program puts one dot in a right
 place and  plus one above...
 A tiny example is attached!

 Thank you for checking it!
 Sister Judit

 2015-02-03 20:08 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider 
 pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com:

 Thank you all for your kind support.
 I'm a litlle busy for the moment but will come back asap!!

 @ Werner: yes no problem at all to change the stem length.

 Cheers,
 Pierre



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Re: [Announce] Boulez anyone?

2015-02-13 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Thanks much Abraham.
Cheers,
Pierre

2015-02-13 12:15 GMT+01:00 Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de:

 Thanks a lot Abraham, it is just great to see all these styles.

 You know that, but for all who don't: straight flags and other flag styles
 can
 also be easily set in LilyPond for fonts that support it like the default
 font:

 http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#rhythms-using-alternative-flag-styles

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Re: [Announce] Boulez anyone?

2015-02-13 Thread David Stephen Grant
I've been wondering - is there an easy way to use the built-in straight
LilyPond flags also in metronome marks and markups?

\version 2.19.15

\relative c' {
  \override Score.Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag

  \time 2/4
  \autoBeamOff

  \tempo Default flag: 8 = 120
  c8 d16 c32 d64 \acciaccatura { c8 }
  d64^\markup { Default flag:\note-by-number #3 #0 #UP } r4
}

On 13 February 2015 at 12:15, Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote:

 Thanks a lot Abraham, it is just great to see all these styles.

 You know that, but for all who don't: straight flags and other flag styles
 can
 also be easily set in LilyPond for fonts that support it like the default
 font:

 http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#rhythms-using-alternative-flag-styles

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Re: [Announce] Boulez anyone?

2015-02-13 Thread David Stephen Grant
Oh, but I guess the Boulez font does this automatically, right?
Thanks!
David

On 13 February 2015 at 13:10, David Stephen Grant da...@davidgrant.no
wrote:

 I've been wondering - is there an easy way to use the built-in straight
 LilyPond flags also in metronome marks and markups?

 \version 2.19.15

 \relative c' {
   \override Score.Flag.stencil = #modern-straight-flag

   \time 2/4
   \autoBeamOff

   \tempo Default flag: 8 = 120
   c8 d16 c32 d64 \acciaccatura { c8 }
   d64^\markup { Default flag:\note-by-number #3 #0 #UP } r4
 }

 On 13 February 2015 at 12:15, Noeck noeck.marb...@gmx.de wrote:

 Thanks a lot Abraham, it is just great to see all these styles.

 You know that, but for all who don't: straight flags and other flag
 styles can
 also be easily set in LilyPond for fonts that support it like the default
 font:

 http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/snippets/rhythms#rhythms-using-alternative-flag-styles

 Cheers,
 Joram

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GoldenAge Font

2015-02-13 Thread Abraham Lee
Has anyone heard of the GoldenAge font family? Just curious if anyone has used 
it before (it's an old Finale font), or wanted to. 

-Abraham

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Re: Frescobaldi on Mac Yosemite ?

2015-02-13 Thread Philippe Massart
Yes it works fine.

But if you prefer, there is now a compiled binary on a .DMG disk image 
available from the frescobaldi website:

https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/releases



 Le 14 févr. 2015 à 01:52, Steve Noland st...@thenolands.us a écrit :
 
 Dear all,
 
 Has Frescobaldi been successfully installed under Mac Yosemite via MacPorts?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Steve
 
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Frescobaldi on Mac Yosemite ?

2015-02-13 Thread Steve Noland
Dear all,

Has Frescobaldi been successfully installed under Mac Yosemite via MacPorts?

Thanks,

Steve

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Re: Frescobaldi on Mac Yosemite ?

2015-02-13 Thread Omer Katzir
Works great

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Philippe Massart phili...@philmassart.net
wrote:

 Yes it works fine.

 But if you prefer, there is now a compiled binary on a .DMG disk image
 available from the frescobaldi website:

 https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi/releases



  Le 14 févr. 2015 à 01:52, Steve Noland st...@thenolands.us a écrit :
 
  Dear all,
 
  Has Frescobaldi been successfully installed under Mac Yosemite via
 MacPorts?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Steve
 
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Re: Are these triple-dots of augmentation possible?

2015-02-13 Thread Marc Hohl

Am 20.01.2015 um 17:11 schrieb Graham King:
[...]


HTH, Simon

Thanks Simon,
that's why the dots are weird (excuse the typo in my original posting).

O... would indeed multiply the duration of O by 15/8, but
O:. is intended to multiply the duration of O by 9/4 ( i.e. O. + ..)

I'm transcribing a piece without access to the original white mensural
notation, and I'm coming to the conclusion (for this and other reasons)
that the old edition I'm working from is seriously loopy.  Time to
reverse-engineer the original notation and take a different approach
methinks...


I don't know whether you still need your triple dots the way you 
describe, but


http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-02/msg00421.html

may be a good starting point.

HTH,

Marc


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