Re: [OT] Bizet op.2

2015-07-05 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Chris,

Yes, I know. This is actually the printed score I'll get within few days.
What I was looking for at the BnF is the manuscript Ms-421 which supposed
to be there, but is not.
I can find the Ms-425 :
http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb42766817k/PUBLIC but not the Ms-421.
I'll check directly at the BnF next week. Working on the original
manuscript is much more interesting.

Cheers,
Pierre

2015-07-05 11:04 GMT+02:00 Chris Yate chrisy...@gmail.com:

 It's in the BnF, according to their catalogue:


 http://catalogue.bnf.fr/servlet/biblio?idNoeud=1ID=39593555SN1=0SN2=0host=catalogue

 (The Edition Mario Bois from 1984)

 via

 http://www.worldcat.org/title/oeuvres-pour-le-piano-les-inedits-et-3-pieces-du-magasin-des-familles/oclc/658660988?ht=editionreferer=di



 On 4 July 2015 at 11:46, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:

 How about the contact link on that page?

 Am 4. Juli 2015 12:20:57 MESZ, schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider 
 pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com:

 Hi LilyPonder's,

 I'm looking for Bizet op.2 :
 http://digital.wustl.edu/bizet/works/4_Preludes.html
 especially the second prelude.
 I have no clue where to find it, even none at the BnF.
 Thanks very much in advance.

 Cheers,
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Re: [OT] Bizet op.2

2015-07-05 Thread Chris Yate
It's in the BnF, according to their catalogue:

http://catalogue.bnf.fr/servlet/biblio?idNoeud=1ID=39593555SN1=0SN2=0host=catalogue

(The Edition Mario Bois from 1984)

via
http://www.worldcat.org/title/oeuvres-pour-le-piano-les-inedits-et-3-pieces-du-magasin-des-familles/oclc/658660988?ht=editionreferer=di



On 4 July 2015 at 11:46, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:

 How about the contact link on that page?

 Am 4. Juli 2015 12:20:57 MESZ, schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider 
 pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com:

 Hi LilyPonder's,

 I'm looking for Bizet op.2 :
 http://digital.wustl.edu/bizet/works/4_Preludes.html
 especially the second prelude.
 I have no clue where to find it, even none at the BnF.
 Thanks very much in advance.

 Cheers,
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Re: [OT] Bizet op.2

2015-07-05 Thread Chris Yate
Pierre,
Ah, I see! You want the urtext :)
Good luck finding it...
Chris

On 5 July 2015 at 11:01, Pierre Perol-Schneider 
pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Chris,

 Yes, I know. This is actually the printed score I'll get within few days.
 What I was looking for at the BnF is the manuscript Ms-421 which supposed
 to be there, but is not.
 I can find the Ms-425 :
 http://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb42766817k/PUBLIC but not the Ms-421.
 I'll check directly at the BnF next week. Working on the original
 manuscript is much more interesting.

 Cheers,
 Pierre

 2015-07-05 11:04 GMT+02:00 Chris Yate chrisy...@gmail.com:

 It's in the BnF, according to their catalogue:


 http://catalogue.bnf.fr/servlet/biblio?idNoeud=1ID=39593555SN1=0SN2=0host=catalogue

 (The Edition Mario Bois from 1984)

 via

 http://www.worldcat.org/title/oeuvres-pour-le-piano-les-inedits-et-3-pieces-du-magasin-des-familles/oclc/658660988?ht=editionreferer=di



 On 4 July 2015 at 11:46, Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org wrote:

 How about the contact link on that page?

 Am 4. Juli 2015 12:20:57 MESZ, schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider 
 pierre.schneider.pa...@gmail.com:

 Hi LilyPonder's,

 I'm looking for Bizet op.2 :
 http://digital.wustl.edu/bizet/works/4_Preludes.html
 especially the second prelude.
 I have no clue where to find it, even none at the BnF.
 Thanks very much in advance.

 Cheers,
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Re: Problem with Percent repeats

2015-07-05 Thread Joshua Nichols
See attached and also below.

\version 2.18.2

#(set-global-staff-size 17)

\paper {
  paper-height = 3.5\in
  paper-width = 6\in
  indent = 0\in
  right-margin = 0.5\in
  bottom-margin = 0.5\in
  top-margin = 0.5\in
  left-margin = 0.5\in
  ragged-bottom = ##f
  ragged-last = ##f

}

\header {
  tagline = ##f
}


cOn = {  }
cOff = {  }

timp = \relative a, {

\mark \markup { \box 189 }

  \time 5/16 a16\mf\[ r c r a]
  \time 4/16 c\! r r8
  \time 5/16 r8 r8.
  a16[ r c r a]
  r8 r8. \mark \markup { \box 190 }


 \repeat unfold 2  {
  \time 5/16  a16\[ r c r a]
  }
  \alternative {
{\time 4/16  c16\! r r8 }
{\time 4/16  c16\! r r8 \mark \markup { \box 191 } }
  }



  \time 5/16 a16\[ r c r a]
  \time 4/16 c\! r r8
  \time 3/8 a8 c4 \mark \markup { \box 192 }
  \time 5/16 a8. c8
  a8. c8
  \time 3/8 a4 c8 \mark \markup { \box 194 }
  \time 5/16 a8. c8
  \time 2/4 a c a[ c] \mark \markup { \box 195 }
  \time 5/16 a8. c8
  \time 3/8 a4 c8 \mark \markup { \box 196 }
  \time 5/16 a8. c8
  \time 3/8 a4 c8 \mark \markup { \box 197 }
  \time 7/16 a8. r8 c
  \time 2/4 a8 c a c \mark \markup { \box 198 }
  \time 5/16 a8. c8
  \time 2/4 a c a c \mark \markup { \box 199 }
  \repeat percent 3 {
a c a[ c]
  }
  a[ c] a r   \bar ||
}

\score {
  \new Staff \with { \clef F } {
\timp
  }
  \layout {
\context {
  \Score
  \omit BarNumber
  \omit TimeSignature
}
  }
}


IC,

Josh

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 4:00 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com writes:

  I've got this snippet:
 
  \repeat percent 2  {
\time 5/16  a16\[ r c r a] |
\time 4/16  c\! r r8
}
 
  and I'm having trouble getting it to show up with the percent correctly
  placed between the barlines.
 
  It also needs to be noted that I have \omit \TimeSignature in my
 \score{}.
 
  Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

 How about putting together a working complete example with all the
 pertinent details?  That way you would be reasonably sure that any
 answer will actually apply to your use case.

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Re: Problem with Percent repeats

2015-07-05 Thread David Kastrup
Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com writes:

 I absolutely sent the wrong example. This is my work around for right now,
 here below, and re-attached, is the example I'm having trouble with.

Ok, here's the deal: percent repeats don't work with changed time
signatures.  The problem is that a change in time signature is effected
by a context property change while typesetting, and the percent repeat
_iterator_ starts making decisions at the time it encounters the \repeat
percent which is earlier.

That's stupid.  It's also the same problem as issue 3693
URL:https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3693.

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Re: Problem with Percent repeats

2015-07-05 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:

 Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com writes:

 I absolutely sent the wrong example. This is my work around for right now,
 here below, and re-attached, is the example I'm having trouble with.

 Ok, here's the deal: percent repeats don't work with changed time
 signatures.  The problem is that a change in time signature is effected
 by a context property change while typesetting, and the percent repeat
 _iterator_ starts making decisions at the time it encounters the \repeat
 percent which is earlier.

 That's stupid.  It's also the same problem as issue 3693
 URL:https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3693.

It turns out that emulating the broken part is somewhat feasible.

 
  {
\time 5/16  a16\[ r c- r a]
\time 4/16  c16-\! r r8 \mark \markup { \box 191 }
  }
  \omit\time 9/32
  #(make-music 'DoublePercentEvent
'length (ly:make-moment 9/16))
  #(make-music 'DoublePercentEvent
'length (ly:make-moment 9/16))

There is a whole bunch wrong with that.  But the graphical output in
_this_ staff (others will likely need to have the time signature made
invisible as well) seems to be more or less what you want.  Maybe one
can play around in order to make the input correspond a bit better with
the logic.

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Problem with Percent repeats

2015-07-05 Thread Joshua Nichols
I've got this snippet:

\repeat percent 2  {
  \time 5/16  a16\[ r c r a] |
  \time 4/16  c\! r r8
  }

and I'm having trouble getting it to show up with the percent correctly
placed between the barlines.

It also needs to be noted that I have \omit \TimeSignature in my \score{}.

Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

Sincerely,

Josh
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Re: Problem with Percent repeats

2015-07-05 Thread David Kastrup
Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com writes:

 I've got this snippet:

 \repeat percent 2  {
   \time 5/16  a16\[ r c r a] |
   \time 4/16  c\! r r8
   }

 and I'm having trouble getting it to show up with the percent correctly
 placed between the barlines.

 It also needs to be noted that I have \omit \TimeSignature in my \score{}.

 Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

How about putting together a working complete example with all the
pertinent details?  That way you would be reasonably sure that any
answer will actually apply to your use case.

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Re: Problem with Percent repeats

2015-07-05 Thread Joshua Nichols
I absolutely sent the wrong example. This is my work around for right now,
here below, and re-attached, is the example I'm having trouble with.

\version 2.18.2

#(set-global-staff-size 17)

\paper {
  paper-height = 3.5\in
  paper-width = 6\in
  indent = 0\in
  right-margin = 0.5\in
  bottom-margin = 0.5\in
  top-margin = 0.5\in
  left-margin = 0.5\in
  ragged-bottom = ##f
  ragged-last = ##f

}

\header {
  tagline = ##f
}


cOn = {  }
cOff = {  }

timp = \relative a, {
  \override Script.direction = #UP

\mark \markup { \box 189 }

  \time 5/16 a16\mf\[ r c- r a-]
  \time 4/16 c-\! r r8
  \time 5/16 r8 r8.
  a16[ r c- r a]
  r8 r8. \mark \markup { \box 190 }


 \repeat percent 2  {
  \time 5/16  a16\[ r c- r a]
  \time 4/16  c16-\! r r8 \mark \markup { \box 191 }
  }



  \time 5/16 a16\[ r c- r a]
  \time 4/16 c-\! r r8
  \time 3/8 a8 c4 \mark \markup { \box 192 }
  \time 5/16 a8. c8
  a8. c8
  \time 3/8 a4 c8 \mark \markup { \box 194 }
  \time 5/16 a8. c8
  \time 2/4 a c a[ c] \mark \markup { \box 195 }
  \time 5/16 a8. c8
  \time 3/8 a4 c8 \mark \markup { \box 196 }
  \time 5/16 a8. c8
  \time 3/8 a4 c8 \mark \markup { \box 197 }
  \time 7/16 a8. r8 c
  \time 2/4 a8 c a c \mark \markup { \box 198 }
  \time 5/16 a8. c8
  \time 2/4 a c a c \mark \markup { \box 199 }
  \repeat percent 3 {
a c a[ c]
  }
  a[ c] a r   \bar ||
}

\score {
  \new Staff \with { \clef F } {
\timp
  }
  \layout {
\context {
  \Score
  \omit BarNumber
  \omit TimeSignature
}
  }
}


IC,

Josh

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com
wrote:

 See attached and also below.

 \version 2.18.2

 #(set-global-staff-size 17)

 \paper {
   paper-height = 3.5\in
   paper-width = 6\in
   indent = 0\in
   right-margin = 0.5\in
   bottom-margin = 0.5\in
   top-margin = 0.5\in
   left-margin = 0.5\in
   ragged-bottom = ##f
   ragged-last = ##f

 }

 \header {
   tagline = ##f
 }


 cOn = {  }
 cOff = {  }

 timp = \relative a, {

 \mark \markup { \box 189 }

   \time 5/16 a16\mf\[ r c r a]
   \time 4/16 c\! r r8
   \time 5/16 r8 r8.
   a16[ r c r a]
   r8 r8. \mark \markup { \box 190 }


  \repeat unfold 2  {
   \time 5/16  a16\[ r c r a]
   }
   \alternative {
 {\time 4/16  c16\! r r8 }
 {\time 4/16  c16\! r r8 \mark \markup { \box 191 } }
   }



   \time 5/16 a16\[ r c r a]
   \time 4/16 c\! r r8
   \time 3/8 a8 c4 \mark \markup { \box 192 }
   \time 5/16 a8. c8
   a8. c8
   \time 3/8 a4 c8 \mark \markup { \box 194 }
   \time 5/16 a8. c8
   \time 2/4 a c a[ c] \mark \markup { \box 195 }
   \time 5/16 a8. c8
   \time 3/8 a4 c8 \mark \markup { \box 196 }
   \time 5/16 a8. c8
   \time 3/8 a4 c8 \mark \markup { \box 197 }
   \time 7/16 a8. r8 c
   \time 2/4 a8 c a c \mark \markup { \box 198 }
   \time 5/16 a8. c8
   \time 2/4 a c a c \mark \markup { \box 199 }
   \repeat percent 3 {
 a c a[ c]
   }
   a[ c] a r   \bar ||
 }

 \score {
   \new Staff \with { \clef F } {
 \timp
   }
   \layout {
 \context {
   \Score
   \omit BarNumber
   \omit TimeSignature
 }
   }
 }


 IC,

 Josh

 On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 4:00 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com writes:

  I've got this snippet:
 
  \repeat percent 2  {
\time 5/16  a16\[ r c r a] |
\time 4/16  c\! r r8
}
 
  and I'm having trouble getting it to show up with the percent correctly
  placed between the barlines.
 
  It also needs to be noted that I have \omit \TimeSignature in my
 \score{}.
 
  Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!

 How about putting together a working complete example with all the
 pertinent details?  That way you would be reasonably sure that any
 answer will actually apply to your use case.

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Re: Partial Bars

2015-07-05 Thread Simon Albrecht

Thanks, Pierre.
Will, what’s more, it’s more semantically correct to set measurePosition 
instead of measureLength (if you’d rather not change to 2.19.x and have 
it done automatically :-) ).


Yours, Simon

Am 03.07.2015 um 16:10 schrieb Pierre Perol-Schneider:

Hi Bill,

2015-07-03 14:57 GMT+02:00 William Marchant wmarch...@eastlink.ca 
mailto:wmarch...@eastlink.ca:


...
Note that there is a new bar number for every bar.
...


This is your choice.
I wouldn't do that. I'd consider this minuet's structure as 4x8 
measures = 32 measures and I fully agree with Simon's remark about the 
bar numbering.

See attached file.
Cheers,
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Re: Problem with Percent repeats

2015-07-05 Thread Joshua Nichols
Thank you for your speedy reply and candor. I appreciate this, as now I can
look forward to seeing improvements with an already stellar program and
tinker with the moment at the same time! Thanks again!

IC,

Josh

On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 5:26 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:

 David Kastrup d...@gnu.org writes:

  Joshua Nichols josh.d.nich...@gmail.com writes:
 
  I absolutely sent the wrong example. This is my work around for right
 now,
  here below, and re-attached, is the example I'm having trouble with.
 
  Ok, here's the deal: percent repeats don't work with changed time
  signatures.  The problem is that a change in time signature is effected
  by a context property change while typesetting, and the percent repeat
  _iterator_ starts making decisions at the time it encounters the \repeat
  percent which is earlier.
 
  That's stupid.  It's also the same problem as issue 3693
  URL:https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=3693.

 It turns out that emulating the broken part is somewhat feasible.


   {
 \time 5/16  a16\[ r c- r a]
 \time 4/16  c16-\! r r8 \mark \markup { \box 191 }
   }
   \omit\time 9/32
   #(make-music 'DoublePercentEvent
 'length (ly:make-moment 9/16))
   #(make-music 'DoublePercentEvent
 'length (ly:make-moment 9/16))

 There is a whole bunch wrong with that.  But the graphical output in
 _this_ staff (others will likely need to have the time signature made
 invisible as well) seems to be more or less what you want.  Maybe one
 can play around in order to make the input correspond a bit better with
 the logic.

 --
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Re: \parenthesize and optional arguments

2015-07-05 Thread Vaughan McAlley
On 4 July 2015 at 17:17, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote:
 You are thinking of LilyPond/Scheme as a procedural language here.

(begin
  ( … )
  ( … )
  ( … )
  ( … )
  ( … )
  ( … )
  ( … ))

Oops :-)

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Re: \tuplet

2015-07-05 Thread tisimst
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking... What kind of tuplet are
you trying to create relative to the notes with fermatas?

- Abraham

On Sunday, July 5, 2015, MING TSANG [via Lilypond] 
ml-node+s1069038n178460...@n5.nabble.com wrote:

 Lilyponders,

 How can I code tuplet in lieu of three fermata?

 Immanuel,
 Ming

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\tuplet

2015-07-05 Thread MING TSANG
Lilyponders,
How can I code tuplet in lieu of three fermata?
Immanuel,Ming 
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