Re: [feature request:] fret diagrams with fingering indications and additional text

[pls]

Thomas Morley  writes:

> 2015-11-01 19:55 GMT+01:00 pls :
>> Hey all,
>>
>> currently it's possible to add fingering indications (any character) inside 
>> of dots or "below" the strings. (In my attachment in landscape orientation
>> it's rather to the right of the strings).  Now I would like to be able to 
>> not only use characters in dots but
>> also add additional text (any kind of character) at least to the right of 
>> the fret
>> diagram (in LilyPond-speak: "below the strings").  It would be nice to
>> also have the option to place the additional characters to the left of
>> the diagram (in LilyPond-speak: above the strings).  And here is an
>> example of how the result might look like:
>>
>>
>> (The fancy curved line at the right side of the diagram is not so
>> important.  Category: "nice to have".)
>>
>> And this is an example of how the future LilyPond syntax could look like:
>> 1^\markup {
>>\fret-diagram-verbose #'(
>>  (place-fret 6 3 1 red parenthesized default-paren-color "G 
>> (5th)")
>>  (place-fret 5 3 "bla" inverted "C (Root)")
>>  ...
>>)
>>  }
>>
>> Does this request make sense?  Is anybody else interested in this
>> feature?
>>
>> Patrick
>
>
> Hi Patrick,
>
> I did some experiments, result attached.
>
> Please test. There is a README in it.
>
> Please be aware it's experimental code, not ready yet to put up a
> patch, although it compiles as far as I tested...
> (some debugging code is still present, most of it commented, though)
>
> There's also
> http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Guitar-Fret-Diagram-scale-degree-below-string-td179664.html#a179789
> which may be of interest for you

Thank you so much for your code and your links!  (I was already aware of the
chords-with-scale-degrees link but I hadn't found a clever/user-friendly way to 
use it
in combination with predefined fretboards.)

I'll test your new solution
as soon as I can.

Thanks again,
Patrick

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lyluatex and distance between systems

[Marc Hohl]

Hi list,

I use the lyluatex package for my latest project. Everything looks fine,
but unfortunately lyluatex does not support \preLilyPondExample,
\postLilyPondExample and \betweenLilyPondSystem, respectively.

I want to control the distance between staves, and adding a padding
below the lyrics does not work, since the Lilypond output is cropped
line by line, ignoring the padding AFAIK.

Is there a way to manually or even better automatically insert an
invisible spacer in the lyrics at the beginning of each new line to
increase the spacing?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions,

Marc

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Re: LilyPond-aware text editors

[Paul Morris]

> On Nov 5, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Urs Liska  wrote:
> 
> Is there *any* tool around that offers more than a notepad application
> but doesn't try to be an IDE?

There’s a bundle that provides LilyPond syntax highlighting for TextMate:

https://github.com/textmate/lilypond.tmbundle

TextMate is mac only ( http://macromates.com/ ) but I think I have seen other 
text editors support the TextMate bundle format.

-Paul
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Re: LilyPond-aware text editors

[Johan Vromans]

On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 16:18:21 +0100
Urs Liska  wrote:

> Is there *any* tool around that offers more than a notepad application
> but doesn't try to be an IDE?

Eh, Emacs?

-- Johan

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Re: A command-line wrapper for OpenLilyLIb

[Matteo Ceccarello]

On 04/11/2015 15:23, Mark Knoop wrote:


You might consider using the pygit2 python module [1] rather than
calling calling git with subprocess. This could perhaps replace a
substantial part of your OpenLilyLibRepo class.

[1] http://www.pygit2.org/


Thank you for the pointer, I was not aware of that library. The thing is 
that using pygit2 would require users to install it along with ollc. 
Instead, I'd rather prefer the script to be as self-contained as 
possible, depending only on the python standard library, in order to 
make its installation as straightforward as possible.


Anyway, I should keep in mind this library, in case there are bugs 
caused by the calls to git via subprocess.


Thank you!

Matteo

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Re: LilyPond-aware text editors

[Urs Liska]

Am 05.11.2015 um 18:02 schrieb Johan Vromans:
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 16:18:21 +0100
> Urs Liska  wrote:
>
>> Is there *any* tool around that offers more than a notepad application
>> but doesn't try to be an IDE?
> Eh, Emacs?

Well, Emacs tries to be the *mother* of all IDEs.

> -- Johan
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Stretching Text

[Dave Higgins]

Is there a way to stretch text over some measures (other than manually)?

For example:
poco a poco crescendo

to:
poco a poco crescendo

I've looked up spanning and padding and other things, but can't seem to
find any thing to the above example.
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Re: Repositioning system

[David Wright]

On Thu 05 Nov 2015 at 19:54:05 (+), Alex Seefeldt wrote:
> Is there any way to manually change the vertical position of a single 
> system in Lilypond? I've tried just about everything I know and I can't 
> figure it out.

I have done this sort of thing to control the spacing of *all* the lines:

global = {
  \key d \major \time 2/4
  \overrideProperty Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-system-details 
#'((Y-offset . 9))
  s2 * 5 \break
  \overrideProperty Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-system-details 
#'((Y-offset . 43))
  s2 * 5 \break
  \overrideProperty Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-system-details 
#'((Y-offset . 77))
  s2 * 4 \break
  \overrideProperty Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-system-details 
#'((Y-offset . 119))
  s2 * 5 \bar "|."
}

Cheers,
David.

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Re: LilyPond-aware text editors

[Nick Payne]

On 06/11/2015 04:21, Urs Liska wrote:


Am 05.11.2015 um 18:02 schrieb Johan Vromans:

On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 16:18:21 +0100
Urs Liska  wrote:


Is there *any* tool around that offers more than a notepad application
but doesn't try to be an IDE?

Eh, Emacs?

Well, Emacs tries to be the *mother* of all IDEs.


Atom has a Lilypond syntax highlighting package. https://atom.io/

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Re: Cadenza...

[Alberto Simões]

On 03/11/15 21:57, Malte Meyn wrote:

In LilyPond versions above 2.19.something there is the more advanced
command \magnifyMusic that scales also stem lengths, beam thicknesses
and some other things.
 \magnifyMusic #(magstep -2) { here comes the music }
 % magstep -2 is the same factor as fontSize = -2, i. e. 2^(-2/6)


Hi

This would be handy, as changing only the size, the spacing between 
notes is mostly kept unaltered.


So, installing MacOS X x86: LilyPond 2.19.30-1

Will be back later... if my laptop doesn't blow up :D

Best
Alberto

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Repositioning system

[Alex Seefeldt]

Is there any way to manually change the vertical position of a single 
system in Lilypond? I've tried just about everything I know and I can't 
figure it out.


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Re: lyluatex and distance between systems

[David Wright]

On Thu 05 Nov 2015 at 18:11:52 (+0100), Marc Hohl wrote:
> I use the lyluatex package for my latest project. Everything looks fine,
> but unfortunately lyluatex does not support \preLilyPondExample,
> \postLilyPondExample and \betweenLilyPondSystem, respectively.
> 
> I want to control the distance between staves, and adding a padding
> below the lyrics does not work, since the Lilypond output is cropped
> line by line, ignoring the padding AFAIK.
> 
> Is there a way to manually or even better automatically insert an
> invisible spacer in the lyrics at the beginning of each new line to
> increase the spacing?

I have stooped to adding extra verses, eg

\addlyrics { \versei }
\addlyrics { \verseii }
\addlyrics { \spacer }
\addlyrics { \spacer }

where the spacer verse might be

spacer = \lyricmode {
  \NBSP _ _ _ _ _ _ _
  \NBSP _ _ _ _ _
  \NBSP _ _ _ _ _ _ _
  \NBSP _ _ _ _ _
}

for an 8686-metre hymn for example.

NBSP = \lyricmode { " " } % non-breakable space

It's not automatic, particularly for "prose" music where the number of
syllables per line is variable. However, it's flexible: you can change
some of the NBSPs back to _ and only pad certain systems (where, for
example, an extra bit of bass lyrics below the staves is getting too
close to the following system. That's tricker to do with
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'( . )

If your cropper is intelligent enough to recognise NBSP as whitespace
and zap it, then there's always the standby

invisibledot = \lyricmode { \once \override LyricText.font-size = #-19 "." }

Cheers,
David.

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Re: Stretching Text

[Simon Albrecht]

Hello Dave,

On 05.11.2015 18:41, Dave Higgins wrote:

Is there a way to stretch text over some measures (other than manually)?

For example:
poco a poco crescendo

to:
poco a poco crescendo



An oft required feature, for which the solution is not yet ready to make 
it into LilyPond proper, but David Nalesnik did provide a solution, to 
be found here: 
. 
I believe there are examples in the file.


HTH, Simon

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Re:LilyPond-aware text editors

[Flaming Hakama by Elaine]

Sublime Text is a rather friendly and modern text editor.
http://www.sublimetext.com

I becomes Lilypond-aware if you use a language package like this one:
https://github.com/yrammos/SubLilyPond


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highly underrated*"
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Re: Dialogue text automatically spanning over multiple lines/pages

[Yannick CHARLES]

Hello !

Thank you both for your answers and feedback.


> >> I would like to have a way to tell Lilypond : "Say this over measures
> >> 1 to 10" (some long text) then "say this over measure 12 and 13".
> >>
> >> Is there such a functionality, or some trick to achieve it ?
> >
> > No simple way to do it currently, as far as I know.
>

ok. For now what I used is the solution described in the manual, but as I
said I had to manually break the text and sometimes put it in columns so
that each block fits on 1 line max.


> > I have been offering to sponsor such a function for a couple of years,
> > as it would be invaluable to the engravings of my music dramas
> > (chamber operas, musicals, etc.). No luck to date.
>

Not sure I can offer to sponsor too, but I would find it very useful as
well as I have a couple of projects involving a narrator reading a text
while music is playing.

>
> so it would have been unsuitable for waiting for a particular measure.
> I don't really know whether the corresponding C code works but I
> probably canned this when realizing that it did not really lend itself
> to a number of applications you wanted it for.
>
> One would probably need to come up with a better way of specifying the
> event to wait for than just some music expression.
>
> For my use, I would be fine with specifying some music expression/duration
(e.g. 1*4 or s1*4).

I mean, maybe the most practical would be something allowing to tell
Lilypond :

Print this text over 20 measures (or mes 1 to 20)
Wait till mes 56 (or some event/mark)
Print this over 6 measures...

But I think it is already great if one can tell :
Print this during this duration (s1*20)
Print nothing during 35 measures (e.g. ""s1*35)
Print this over 6 measures (s1*6 if 4/4 signature)

Yann
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Cadenza... in the MIDI

[Alberto Simões]

Hello

Probably this is in the manual, but I did not find it.

Is it possible to change the tempo (playing speed) in a specific zone of 
the music?


Best,
Alberto

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Re: Repositioning system

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Alex Seefeldt" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:54 PM
Subject: Repositioning system


Is there any way to manually change the vertical position of a single 
system in Lilypond? I've tried just about everything I know and I can't 
figure it out.



Try using a hidden note.

--
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Re: LilyPond-aware text editors

[T. Michael Sommers]

On 11/5/2015 12:21 PM, Urs Liska wrote:

Am 05.11.2015 um 18:02 schrieb Johan Vromans:

On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 16:18:21 +0100
Urs Liska  wrote:


Is there *any* tool around that offers more than a notepad application
but doesn't try to be an IDE?

Eh, Emacs?


Well, Emacs tries to be the *mother* of all IDEs.


Emacs doesn't try to be an IDE.  It tries to be an operating system.

--
T.M. Sommers -- tmsomme...@gmail.com -- ab2sb

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Re: LilyPond-aware text editors

[Thomas Morley]

2015-11-05 16:18 GMT+01:00 Urs Liska :
> Hi all,
>
> does anyone know of LilyPond-aware text editors? I was always
> considering the steps
> - plain text editor
> - enhanced editor
> - IDE
>
> but suddenly have the impression that the second one doesn't actually exist.
>
> What I consider an enhanced editor is a tool that gives at least syntax
> highlighting for LilyPond, and optionally one or more of the following:
> - code completion
> - input helpers
> - music functions
> - indenter/linter
>
> What it would *not* have (because then I'd consider it an IDE) is any
> form of integrating compilation, console output, viewer.
>
> Is there *any* tool around that offers more than a notepad application
> but doesn't try to be an IDE?
>
> Best
> Urs
>


I mostly use jEdit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedit
nice colored and customizable highlighting and a lot of features which
can be added.

For simple tasks gedit, in terminal nano.

There was a lilypondtool-plugin for jEdit warranting LilyPond-specific
highlighting and autocompletition, though the developer stopped work
on it. Last release was 12.1.2010, afaict. He posted it on this list,
too lazy to search it, though.

Honestly, the LilyPondTool was always a little buggy and I rarely
needed it, but I love the jEdit-way ;)

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: Cadenza... in the MIDI

[H. S. Teoh]

On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 09:00:26PM +, Alberto Simões wrote:
> Hello
> 
> Probably this is in the manual, but I did not find it.
> 
> Is it possible to change the tempo (playing speed) in a specific zone
> of the music?
[...]

Usually what I do is to insert "invisible" \tempo marks to control midi
playback speed. Or more precisely, \tag them so that they are removed
from the typeset score, but included in the midi score. Something like
this:

myMusic = {
\tempo 4 = 120 % initial tempo
...
\tag #'midi \tempo 4 = 130 % tweak midi tempo
...
\tag #'midi \tempo 4 = 120 % set it back to "normal"
...
}

% Score for layout only
\score {
\removeWithTag #'midi \myMusic
\layout {}
}

% Score for midi only
\score {
\myMusic
\midi {}
}


T

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Re: LilyPond-aware text editors

[Cameron Horsburgh]

I use an app called Koder on iOS. It does syntax highlighting and some
keyword completion for LilyPond files straight out of the box. It's not
particularly useful for heavy or even medium weight lifting, but it's great
for a quick proofread when I'm away from my main machine.



Cameron Horsburgh


On 6 November 2015 at 10:03, Flaming Hakama by Elaine <
ela...@flaminghakama.com> wrote:

>
> Sublime Text is a rather friendly and modern text editor.
> http://www.sublimetext.com
>
> I becomes Lilypond-aware if you use a language package like this one:
> https://github.com/yrammos/SubLilyPond
>
>
> David Elaine Alt
> 415 . 341 .4954   "*Confusion is
> highly underrated*"
> ela...@flaminghakama.com
> self-immolation.info
> skype: flaming_hakama
> Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist
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Re: Cadenza... in the MIDI

[Noeck]

Hi,

you can omit the tempo and still have the effect:
\version "2.19.21"

\score {
  {
\tempo 4=120
a
\omit Score.MetronomeMark
\tempo 4=30
b
\omit Score.MetronomeMark
\tempo 4=120
a
  }

  \midi{}
}


Cheers,
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Re: lyluatex and distance between systems

[Marc Hohl]

Am 05.11.2015 um 21:05 schrieb David Wright:

On Thu 05 Nov 2015 at 18:11:52 (+0100), Marc Hohl wrote:

I use the lyluatex package for my latest project. Everything looks fine,
but unfortunately lyluatex does not support \preLilyPondExample,
\postLilyPondExample and \betweenLilyPondSystem, respectively.

I want to control the distance between staves, and adding a padding
below the lyrics does not work, since the Lilypond output is cropped
line by line, ignoring the padding AFAIK.

Is there a way to manually or even better automatically insert an
invisible spacer in the lyrics at the beginning of each new line to
increase the spacing?


I have stooped to adding extra verses, eg

\addlyrics { \versei }
\addlyrics { \verseii }
\addlyrics { \spacer }
\addlyrics { \spacer }

where the spacer verse might be

spacer = \lyricmode {
   \NBSP _ _ _ _ _ _ _
   \NBSP _ _ _ _ _
   \NBSP _ _ _ _ _ _ _
   \NBSP _ _ _ _ _
}

for an 8686-metre hymn for example.

NBSP = \lyricmode { " " } % non-breakable space

It's not automatic, particularly for "prose" music where the number of
syllables per line is variable. However, it's flexible: you can change
some of the NBSPs back to _ and only pad certain systems (where, for
example, an extra bit of bass lyrics below the staves is getting too
close to the following system. That's tricker to do with
\override VerticalAxisGroup #'minimum-Y-extent = #'( . )

If your cropper is intelligent enough to recognise NBSP as whitespace
and zap it, then there's always the standby

invisibledot = \lyricmode { \once \override LyricText.font-size = #-19 "." }


Thanks for these ideas, I'll give it a try!

Best regards,

Marc


Cheers,
David.




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Re: LilyPond-aware text editors

[Phil Holmes]

- Original Message - 
From: "Urs Liska" 

To: "lilypond-user" 
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 3:18 PM
Subject: LilyPond-aware text editors



Hi all,

does anyone know of LilyPond-aware text editors? I was always
considering the steps
- plain text editor
- enhanced editor
- IDE

but suddenly have the impression that the second one doesn't actually 
exist.


What I consider an enhanced editor is a tool that gives at least syntax
highlighting for LilyPond, and optionally one or more of the following:
- code completion
- input helpers
- music functions
- indenter/linter

What it would *not* have (because then I'd consider it an IDE) is any
form of integrating compilation, console output, viewer.

Is there *any* tool around that offers more than a notepad application
but doesn't try to be an IDE?

Best
Urs



On Windows, I use EditPad Pro.  No help with input/completion, but brace 
matching, syntax highlighting, autoindent, etc.


--
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Re: LilyPond-aware text editors

[Urs Liska]

Am 05.11.2015 um 16:27 schrieb Kieren MacMillan:
> Hi Urs,
>
>> does anyone know of LilyPond-aware text editors? […]
>> What I consider an enhanced editor is a tool that gives at least syntax
>> highlighting for LilyPond, and optionally one or more of the following:
>> - code completion
>> - input helpers
>> - music functions
>> - indenter/linter
> http://subethaedit.net/
> ??

Does this have LilyPond support? I can't see anything detailed on the
website.


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Re: LilyPond-aware text editors

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Urs,

> Does this have LilyPond support? I can't see anything detailed on the website.

Amongst other things, syntax-colouring is totally customizable. I wrote a basic 
Lilypond syntax-colour plist 11 years ago (cf. 
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2004-01/msg00668.html), but I 
have no idea if it still works; in any case, it wouldn’t be hard to fix/improve 
it.

Hope this helps!
Kieren.


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LilyPond-aware text editors

[Urs Liska]

Hi all,

does anyone know of LilyPond-aware text editors? I was always
considering the steps
- plain text editor
- enhanced editor
- IDE

but suddenly have the impression that the second one doesn't actually exist.

What I consider an enhanced editor is a tool that gives at least syntax
highlighting for LilyPond, and optionally one or more of the following:
- code completion
- input helpers
- music functions
- indenter/linter

What it would *not* have (because then I'd consider it an IDE) is any
form of integrating compilation, console output, viewer.

Is there *any* tool around that offers more than a notepad application
but doesn't try to be an IDE?

Best
Urs

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Re: LilyPond-aware text editors

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Urs,

> does anyone know of LilyPond-aware text editors? […]
> What I consider an enhanced editor is a tool that gives at least syntax
> highlighting for LilyPond, and optionally one or more of the following:
> - code completion
> - input helpers
> - music functions
> - indenter/linter

http://subethaedit.net/
??

[Big] Bonus: networked and collaborative.
[Big] Drawback (??): Mac OS X only.

Hope this helps!
Kieren.


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