Fwd: Re: DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH fails in gs, OS X El Capitan

[Colin Campbell]

Forwarded from bug list, as there are likely more users who can help.


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Subject:Re: DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH fails in gs, OS X El Capitan
Date:   Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:35:06 -0700 (MST)
From:   stefandres 
To: bug-lilyp...@gnu.org



Hi,

I have the same problem: The same Error with El Capitan and Lilypond,
unfortunately, I don't understand your explanation, I'm not good in this
programming stuff:

/"To change the link, use the install_name_tool command:

$ cd /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin

$ install_name_tool -change ./bin/../sobin/libgs.8.70.dylib
@executable_path/../lib/libgs.8.70.dylib gs"
/

I installed otool and install_name_tool command, but don't understand which
file I have to open and how I use these commands. It would be great, if
someone could give me a step by step tutorial.

Thanks a lot!
greetings
stefan





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Re: Spanner text in parenthesis on a new system

[David Nalesnik]

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 10:03 AM, David Nalesnik 
wrote:

>
> {
>   \override Staff.OttavaBracket.stencil =
>   #(lambda (grob)
>  (let ((text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
>(lb (ly:spanner-bound grob LEFT)))
>(if (= (ly:item-break-dir lb) CENTER)
>(ly:ottava-bracket::print grob)
>(begin
> (set! (ly:grob-property grob 'text)
>   (make-concat-markup (list "(" text ")")))
> (ly:ottava-bracket::print grob)
>
>
Unneccesarily verbose...

\override Staff.OttavaBracket.stencil =
  #(lambda (grob)
 (let ((text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
   (lb (ly:spanner-bound grob LEFT)))
   (if (not (= (ly:item-break-dir lb) CENTER))
   (set! (ly:grob-property grob 'text)
 (make-concat-markup (list "(" text ")"
   (ly:ottava-bracket::print grob)))
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Re: Spanner text in parenthesis on a new system

[David Nalesnik]

Hi Gilberto,

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 5:11 AM, Gilberto Agostinho <
gilbertohasn...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Is it possible to automatically change the text of a spanner so that if
> they
> last for more than one system they get parenthesized? I would like to apply
> this both to the ottava indications as well as for the mixed style of
> sustain pedalling (actually we don't show any text at all when Ped. lasts
> for more than one system).
>

It's not difficult to do this for ottava indications.  Below I simply check
to see if the left-bound of the spanner is broken.  If it is, I reset the
'text property, and call the print function to use the new value of that
property.  Otherwise, we use the default stencil.

 \version "2.18"

\paper {
  ragged-right = ##t
}

{
  \override Staff.OttavaBracket.stencil =
  #(lambda (grob)
 (let ((text (ly:grob-property grob 'text))
   (lb (ly:spanner-bound grob LEFT)))
   (if (= (ly:item-break-dir lb) CENTER)
   (ly:ottava-bracket::print grob)
   (begin
(set! (ly:grob-property grob 'text)
  (make-concat-markup (list "(" text ")")))
(ly:ottava-bracket::print grob)

  \ottava #1
  \repeat unfold 100 {
c'''
  }
}


> In the case of the ottava, the parenthesis in a new system are not
> required,
> but some authors do use them. But in the case of the pedalling, it makes
> the
> score much clearer in my opinion. See a faked version created on GIMP
> below:
>
> 
>
> This is even more evident when there is a page turn in between the systems.
>
> Would that be possible?
>

Probably.  From my inspection of the code, though, this seems to be a
rather bigger enterprise than a modification of OttavaBracket.  This should
be tackled in C++, and the code seems awfully convoluted,  I can't put the
time in to figuring it out given such sparse comments, though your idea
would be useful for my own music.

A first step would be to have an actual SustainPedal grob at the broken
left-bound.

(I'm sure someone could come up with a stencil-replacement which would
redraw the bracket to get the parenthesized text, but this would be a lot
of trouble for a hack!  I speak from experience: you can see a relevant
example at http://www.mail-archive.com/lilypond-user%40gnu.org/msg97099.html
)


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problem adding \epsfile to markup

[Ryan Michael]

I have a local EPS file called "niolin.eps" which I am trying to add to my
markup. I think i need to add a bounding box for it for it to work, but am
not sure how to do that.

I exported the EPS file directly from Adobe Illustrator.

Here is the lilypond error code:

 Wrong type argument in position 1: #f


Here is the actual markup snippet:

 aih8\harmonic\glissando^\markup{
\epsfile #X #10 #"niolin.eps"
}


Any ideas on how to successfully add the EPS file?


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Re: problem adding \epsfile to markup

[Simon Albrecht]

On 05.12.2015 11:56, Ryan Michael wrote:
I have a local EPS file called "niolin.eps" which I am trying to add 
to my markup. I think i need to add a bounding box for it for it to 
work, but am not sure how to do that.


I exported the EPS file directly from Adobe Illustrator.

Here is the lilypond error code:

 Wrong type argument in position 1: #f


Here is the actual markup snippet:

 aih8\harmonic\glissando^\markup{
\epsfile #X #10 #"niolin.eps"
}


Any ideas on how to successfully add the EPS file?


It’s generally hard to tell without a minimal example[1] – and you might 
find the error yourself while creating one.


Yours, Simon

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Re: problem adding \epsfile to markup

[Thomas Morley]

2015-12-05 11:56 GMT+01:00 Ryan Michael :
> I have a local EPS file called "niolin.eps" which I am trying to add to my
> markup. I think i need to add a bounding box for it for it to work, but am
> not sure how to do that.
>
> I exported the EPS file directly from Adobe Illustrator.
>
> Here is the lilypond error code:
>
>  Wrong type argument in position 1: #f
>
>
> Here is the actual markup snippet:
>
>  aih8\harmonic\glissando^\markup{
> \epsfile #X #10 #"niolin.eps"
> }
>
>
> Any ideas on how to successfully add the EPS file?


Hi Ryan,

the LilyPond-syntax looks ok.

Thus, the problem is obviously in the eps-file or with LilyPond not
correctly recognizing the eps-file.
It's not unheard that some eps-files fail, maybe we can investigate it a little.

You could post your eps here or, if it's protected:

Please run the following code:

#(define (eps-info eps-file)
  (let* ((the-eps (ly:gulp-file eps-file)))
;; display complete file:
;(display-scheme-music the-eps)
;; display the bounding-box as a list, other wise #f
(write-me
  "bounding-box "
  ((@@ (lily) get-postscript-bbox) (car (string-split the-eps #\nul))

#(eps-info "niolin.eps")

If it returns:
bounding-box #f
uncomment the line
(display-scheme-music the-eps)
und run it again and look, whether you can see anything like
"BoundingBox:" displayed.

Though, if you can't find anything I've no idea how you could add
reasonable values for BoundingBox.
Then I'd think you should use another tool. AFAIK GIMP never failed in
this regard.

Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: problem adding \epsfile to markup

[David Kastrup]

Thomas Morley  writes:

> Though, if you can't find anything I've no idea how you could add
> reasonable values for BoundingBox.

eps2eps is a good bet.

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Spanner text in parenthesis on a new system

[Gilberto Agostinho]

Hi all,

Is it possible to automatically change the text of a spanner so that if they
last for more than one system they get parenthesized? I would like to apply
this both to the ottava indications as well as for the mixed style of
sustain pedalling (actually we don't show any text at all when Ped. lasts
for more than one system).

In the case of the ottava, the parenthesis in a new system are not required,
but some authors do use them. But in the case of the pedalling, it makes the
score much clearer in my opinion. See a faked version created on GIMP below:

 

This is even more evident when there is a page turn in between the systems.

Would that be possible?



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Re: problem adding \epsfile to markup

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

Hi Ryan,

I don't think that this warning has something to do with the eps file.

Cheers,
~Pierre

2015-12-05 11:56 GMT+01:00 Ryan Michael :

> I have a local EPS file called "niolin.eps" which I am trying to add to my
> markup. I think i need to add a bounding box for it for it to work, but am
> not sure how to do that.
>
> I exported the EPS file directly from Adobe Illustrator.
>
> Here is the lilypond error code:
>
>  Wrong type argument in position 1: #f
>
>
> Here is the actual markup snippet:
>
>  aih8\harmonic\glissando^\markup{
> \epsfile #X #10 #"niolin.eps"
> }
>
>
> Any ideas on how to successfully add the EPS file?
>
>
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Re: problem adding \epsfile to markup

[Ryan Michael]

Here is the eps file:

https://www.mediafire.com/?xhsu0jiidib2k9u

What is the simplest lilypond file I could make to prove that it is not the
larger structure of the file and is the eps file causing problems.

And if it is the latter case, how do I ameliorate the eps file? I simply
did an export from Illustrator as eps of some simple vector graphics :).

Thanks!

On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:55 AM, David Kastrup  wrote:

> Thomas Morley  writes:
>
> > Though, if you can't find anything I've no idea how you could add
> > reasonable values for BoundingBox.
>
> eps2eps is a good bet.
>
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>



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Re: problem adding \epsfile to markup

[Thomas Morley]

2015-12-05 21:49 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider
:
> Hi Ryan,
> The attached file seems to do the job.
> Cheers,
> Pierre

@Pierre
How did you create the file?
If I manually delete the non-UTF-characters, it sort of works, though
I think you did something using cairo, the BoundingBox is changed a
little, though.

>
> 2015-12-05 21:41 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup :
>>
>> Ryan Michael  writes:
>>
>> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:55 AM, David Kastrup  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Thomas Morley  writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Though, if you can't find anything I've no idea how you could add
>> >>> > reasonable values for BoundingBox.
>> >>>
>> >>> eps2eps is a good bet.
>> >
>> > Here is the eps file:
>> >
>> > https://www.mediafire.com/?xhsu0jiidib2k9u
>> >
>> > What is the simplest lilypond file I could make to prove that it is not
>> > the
>> > larger structure of the file and is the eps file causing problems.
>> >
>> > And if it is the latter case, how do I ameliorate the eps file?

@Ryan
I downloaded the file
It immediately crashes evince.
With gedit (UTF-8 encoding) I get:
"The file you opened has some invalid characters. If you continue
editing this file you could corrupt this document.
You can also choose another character encoding and try again."
Similiar with jEdit.
Though, I can see a BoundingBox _is_ specified.
LilyPond likely fails, because of those non-UTF-8 characters.

>>
>> eps2eps is a good bet.

@David
tried it, I got:

~/Desktop$ eps2eps niolin.eps new-niolin.eps
Error: /undefinedresource in resourcestatus
Operand stack:
   false   ct_StyleDicts   --dict:0/4(L)--   Adobe-Japan1
--dict:0/4(L)--   Serif   HeiseiMin-W3-83pv-RKSJ-H   Font
HeiseiMin-W3   CIDFont
Execution stack:
   %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
--nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--
--nostringval--   --nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   1967
1   3   %oparray_pop   1967   1   3   %oparray_pop   1966   1   3
%oparray_pop   --nostringval--   1950   1   3   %oparray_pop   1836
1   3   %oparray_pop   --nostringval--   %errorexec_pop   .runexec2
--nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   2
%stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
1915   10   9   %oparray_pop
Dictionary stack:
   --dict:1184/1684(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:87/200(L)--
--dict:57/75(L)--   --dict:2/10(L)--   --dict:39/70(L)--
--dict:0/4(L)--   --dict:0/4(L)--   --dict:20/27(ro)(G)--
--dict:20/26(ro)(G)--
Current allocation mode is local
Last OS error: No such file or directory
GPL Ghostscript 9.15: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1


What a mess.


Cheers,
  Harm

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Re: Why break doesn't work?

[Thomas Morley]

To make a guess, there are some other things preventing a line-break.
Maybe Beam or Glissando over BarLine, can't say without code.
Probably one of those will help:

\override Beam.breakable = ##t
\override Glissando.breakable = ##t

Cheers,
  Harm


2015-12-06 0:51 GMT+01:00 Luca Danieli :
> Thank you Joram.
>
> I'll pay more attention regarding your point (a).
>
> About (b), I did it write it because I was unable to reproduce the behavior.
> Indeed the solution you proposed doesn't work.
>
> If I write \bar "|." \break for example, I can see the new barline at the
> centre of the bar, but still it doesn't break it.
>
> Do I maybe have to add \break to all or to any specific staff? I have
> actually 5 main staffs and Cello is the last.
>
> Luca
>
>> Subject: Re: Why break doesn't work?
>> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
>> From: noeck.marb...@gmx.de
>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 23:42:16 +0100
>
>>
>> Dear Luca,
>>
>> there are a few things you could do better when writing to this list:
>>
>> a) Start a new thread with your topic and not reply to a mail on this
>> list, if you have an unrelated question.
>>
>> b) Post a minimal example which shows the problem:
>> http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html
>> This example should be in text form (not an image) such that others can
>> test it on their computer and it should be as short as possible to show
>> your problem.
>>
>> From your image it looks like you put the \break in the middle of a
>> measure. But Lilypond allows breaks only at barlines. So you have to add
>> an invisible bar line:
>>
>> \bar "" \break
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> Joram
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proper beaming question

[Karol Majewski]

By default, LilyPond's beaming of eight rest and three eight notes in 4/4 meter 
is:

r8 c'8[ c'8 c'8]

E. Gould on p. 164 states that: Rhythmic figures that are not part of a 
repeated pattern may be best beamed into separate beats, so that they are not 
mistaken for triplets nor fot groups of three quavers in compound time:

4/4: c'8 r8 c'8 r8 r8 c'8 c'8[ c'8] rather than
4/4: c'8[ r8 c'8] r8 r8 c'8[ c'8 c'8]

Personally, I agree with her view and find that _this_ should be default LP 
behavior. So beaming in 4/4 should be like:

4/4: c'8[ c'8 c'8 c'8] r8 c'8 c'8[ c'8]

How can I force LilyPond to beam like this?



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Re: Spanner text in parenthesis on a new system

[Gilberto Agostinho]

Hi David,


David Nalesnik-2 wrote
> It's not difficult to do this for ottava indications.  Below I simply
> check
> to see if the left-bound of the spanner is broken.

Thanks, it works wonderfully!


David Nalesnik-2 wrote
> From my inspection of the code, though, this seems to be a
> rather bigger enterprise than a modification of OttavaBracket.  This
> should
> be tackled in C++, and the code seems awfully convoluted,  I can't put the
> time in to figuring it out given such sparse comments, though your idea
> would be useful for my own music.
> 
> A first step would be to have an actual SustainPedal grob at the broken
> left-bound.

I think I understand what you mean. It's a pity this is a bit more
complicated to achieve, as I'd say the (Ped) indications are much more
important than the (8a) indications, since we already show a 8a at a new
system but the mixed pedal is just a single straight line. Maybe this could
go to the issue tracker as a feature request.


Noeck wrote
> a) Start a new thread with your topic and not reply to a mail on this
> list, if you have an unrelated question.

Is there a way to split the topics now? I am not only receiving every single
e-mail about the break issue, as well as the thread here at nabble is a
mixture of all of them...

Cheers to you all,
Gilberto



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RE: Why break doesn't work?

[Luca Danieli]

Thank you Joram.
I'll pay more attention regarding your point (a).
About (b), I did it write it because I was unable to reproduce the 
behavior.Indeed the solution you proposed doesn't work.
If I write \bar "|." \break for example, I can see the new barline at the 
centre of the bar, but still it doesn't break it.
Do I maybe have to add \break to all or to any specific staff? I have actually 
5 main staffs and Cello is the last.
Luca

> Subject: Re: Why break doesn't work?
> To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
> From: noeck.marb...@gmx.de
> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 23:42:16 +0100
> 
> Dear Luca,
> 
> there are a few things you could do better when writing to this list:
> 
> a) Start a new thread with your topic and not reply to a mail on this
> list, if you have an unrelated question.
> 
> b) Post a minimal example which shows the problem:
> http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html
> This example should be in text form (not an image) such that others can
> test it on their computer and it should be as short as possible to show
> your problem.
> 
> From your image it looks like you put the \break in the middle of a
> measure. But Lilypond allows breaks only at barlines. So you have to add
> an invisible bar line:
> 
> \bar "" \break
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Joram
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Re: Using tiny inside a chord

[Alberto Simões]

Hi

On 04/12/15 22:00, David Kastrup wrote:

miny = \tweak font-size #-2 \etc

and 


I hate when I try something that doesn't work, somebody suggest the same 
thing, and it works. Unfortunately I did not have saved my code, so, no 
idea what I did wrong.


Thank you, David!

Alberto

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Re: Why break doesn't work?

[Noeck]

Dear Luca,

there are a few things you could do better when writing to this list:

a) Start a new thread with your topic and not reply to a mail on this
list, if you have an unrelated question.

b) Post a minimal example which shows the problem:
http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html
This example should be in text form (not an image) such that others can
test it on their computer and it should be as short as possible to show
your problem.

>From your image it looks like you put the \break in the middle of a
measure. But Lilypond allows breaks only at barlines. So you have to add
an invisible bar line:

\bar "" \break

Hope that helps,
Joram

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Re: problem adding \epsfile to markup

[David Kastrup]

Ryan Michael  writes:

>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:55 AM, David Kastrup  wrote:
>>
>>> Thomas Morley  writes:
>>>
>>> > Though, if you can't find anything I've no idea how you could add
>>> > reasonable values for BoundingBox.
>>>
>>> eps2eps is a good bet.
>
> Here is the eps file:
>
> https://www.mediafire.com/?xhsu0jiidib2k9u
>
> What is the simplest lilypond file I could make to prove that it is not the
> larger structure of the file and is the eps file causing problems.
>
> And if it is the latter case, how do I ameliorate the eps file?

eps2eps is a good bet.

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Re: DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH fails in gs, OS X El Capitan

[Jacques Menu]

Hello Colin,

I run El Capitan and LP 2.19.32, and this problem doesn’t arise, see below.
Can you migrate to see whether that solves the issue?

JM

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menu@macbookprojm > uname -a
Darwin macbookprojm 15.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 15.0.0: Sat Sep 19 15:53:46 
PDT 2015; root:xnu-3247.10.11~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64


menu@macbookprojm > cat MusicXMLSampleCopy.ly

\version "2.19.30"
% automatically converted by musicxml2ly from MusicXMLSampleCopy.xml

\header {
encodingsoftware = "Frescobaldi 2.18.1"
encodingdate = "2015-10-29"
}

\layout {
\context { \Score
autoBeaming = ##f
}
} %JMI

PartPOneVoiceOne =  \relative a {
\clef "bass" \key f \major \time 6/8 a4 bes8 ~ bes8 ( c8 b8 ) }


% The score definition
\score {
<<
\new Staff <<
\context Staff << 
\context Voice = "PartPOneVoiceOne" { \PartPOneVoiceOne }
>>
>>

>>
\layout {}
% To create MIDI output, uncomment the following line:
%  \midi {}
}


menu@macbookprojm > lilypond --png MusicXMLSampleCopy.ly
GNU LilyPond 2.19.32
Processing `MusicXMLSampleCopy.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...
Preprocessing graphical objects...
Finding the ideal number of pages...
Fitting music on 1 page...
Drawing systems...
Layout output to 
`/var/folders/jc/xrpy67_x6_vcjfzpzds_9_6mgn/T//lilypond-vJPkfw'...
Converting to PNG...
Deleting `/var/folders/jc/xrpy67_x6_vcjfzpzds_9_6mgn/T//lilypond-vJPkfw'...
Success: compilation successfully completed
menu@macbookprojm > 


> Le 5 déc. 2015 à 20:10, Colin Campbell  a écrit :
> 
> Forwarded from bug list, as there are likely more users who can help.
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:  Re: DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH fails in gs, OS X El Capitan
> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 10:35:06 -0700 (MST)
> From: stefandres  
> To:   bug-lilyp...@gnu.org 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> I have the same problem: The same Error with El Capitan and Lilypond, 
> unfortunately, I don't understand your explanation, I'm not good in this
> programming stuff:
> 
> /"To change the link, use the install_name_tool command:
> 
> $ cd /Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin
> 
> $ install_name_tool -change ./bin/../sobin/libgs.8.70.dylib
> @executable_path/../lib/libgs.8.70.dylib gs"
> /
> 
> I installed otool and install_name_tool command, but don't understand which
> file I have to open and how I use these commands. It would be great, if
> someone could give me a step by step tutorial. 
> 
> Thanks a lot!
> greetings
> stefan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: problem adding \epsfile to markup

[Pierre Perol-Schneider]

Hi Ryan,
The attached file seems to do the job.
Cheers,
Pierre

2015-12-05 21:41 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup :

> Ryan Michael  writes:
>
> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:55 AM, David Kastrup  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Thomas Morley  writes:
> >>>
> >>> > Though, if you can't find anything I've no idea how you could add
> >>> > reasonable values for BoundingBox.
> >>>
> >>> eps2eps is a good bet.
> >
> > Here is the eps file:
> >
> > https://www.mediafire.com/?xhsu0jiidib2k9u
> >
> > What is the simplest lilypond file I could make to prove that it is not
> the
> > larger structure of the file and is the eps file causing problems.
> >
> > And if it is the latter case, how do I ameliorate the eps file?
>
> eps2eps is a good bet.
>
> --
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Re: Why break doesn't work?

[Simon Albrecht]

On 06.12.2015 02:12, Luca Danieli wrote:

Thank you Brian for your help.

I tried to add \bar "" \break and still didn't have any effect.

Just to understand, so to behave correctly in possible future 
questions: what part of code should I post? All the 450 lines of my 
script?


Of course not, unless it’s the very minimum amount of code required to 
trigger the problem. Noeck already gave the link to the relevant 
instruction on ‘tiny examples’ on our website, which is just a very 
useful tool. Anyone from the list who will try to help (unless they see 
the problem at a glance) will have to do just the same. Often you’ll 
find the solution yourself while reducing the example, or at least 
understand better what the problem actually is.
And, yes, it is a tedious task, especially with large scores… but you 
can’t expect others to fix your issue if you weren’t prepared to invest 
time yourself.
I hope this makes clear that we are not being strict in order to scare 
you away, but that this is just the most sensible way to do it.


Best, Simon

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RE: Why break doesn't work?

[Luca Danieli]

Thank you Brian for your help.I tried to add \bar "" \break and still didn't 
have any effect.Just to understand, so to behave correctly in possible future 
questions: what part of code should I post? All the 450 lines of my script?Luca
> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2015 00:57:26 +
> To: mr.luce...@hotmail.it
> From: b.m.bar...@btinternet.com
> Subject: RE: Why break doesn't work?
> 
> At 00:51 06/12/2015 +0100, you wrote:
> >Indeed the solution you proposed doesn't work. If I write \bar "|." 
> >\break for example, ...
> 
> The suggested solution was to use \bar "", wasn't it? This creates an 
> invisible bar line, which nevertheless allows Lilypond to create a 
> system break there. Surely you don't want a visible bar line in the 
> middle of your bar? You could use \bar ";" or \bar "!", perhaps.
> 
> >I can see the new barline at the centre of the bar, but still it 
> >doesn't break it. Do I maybe have to add \break to all or to any 
> >specific staff? I have actually 5 main staffs and Cello is the last.
> 
> Surely yes? Lilypond can create a system break only where it is 
> possible in all staves, so you need to allow this in each staff. This 
> is most noticeable where parallel instruments are scored with 
> different time signatures so that bar lines do not always coincide. 
> Indeed, surely you need to rewrite the relevant bar in the flute 
> staff? Without doing that, you are asking Lilypond somehow magically 
> to divide a full-bar rest between two systems.
> 
> But - without seeing your code - I'm guessing.
> 
> I trust this helps.
> 
> Brian Barker - privately
> 
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Re: proper beaming question

[Simon Albrecht]

Hello Karol,

well, NR 1.2.4 discusses (in the paragraph starting with ‘In engraving 
from…’) this very topic, but only for ‘time signatures with 3 in the 
numerator’.
I think this is much a matter of style, and thus I, as a notorious 
traditionalist, would prefer the 19th century version. But I agree that 
it should be configurable for duple meters also.


Yours, Simon

On 06.12.2015 01:29, Karol Majewski wrote:

By default, LilyPond's beaming of eight rest and three eight notes in 4/4 meter 
is:

r8 c'8[ c'8 c'8]

E. Gould on p. 164 states that: Rhythmic figures that are not part of a 
repeated pattern may be best beamed into separate beats, so that they are not 
mistaken for triplets nor fot groups of three quavers in compound time:

4/4: c'8 r8 c'8 r8 r8 c'8 c'8[ c'8] rather than
4/4: c'8[ r8 c'8] r8 r8 c'8[ c'8 c'8]

Personally, I agree with her view and find that _this_ should be default LP 
behavior. So beaming in 4/4 should be like:

4/4: c'8[ c'8 c'8 c'8] r8 c'8 c'8[ c'8]

How can I force LilyPond to beam like this?



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