tweaking only the broken part of a pedal bracket

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hello all,

What is the right incantation for tweaking just the broken part of a pedal 
bracket/line, e.g.,

  \once \override PianoPedalBracket.broken.extra-offset = #’(0 . 1)

??

I’m on 2.19.31, in case that makes a difference.

Thanks!
Kieren.


Kieren MacMillan, composer
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Re: tweaking only the broken part of a pedal bracket

[David Nalesnik]

Hi Kieren,

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Kieren MacMillan <
kieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> What is the right incantation for tweaking just the broken part of a pedal
> bracket/line, e.g.,
>
>   \once \override PianoPedalBracket.broken.extra-offset = #’(0 . 1)
>
> ??
>
> I’m on 2.19.31, in case that makes a difference.
>

Try

\alterBroken extra-offset #'(() (0 . 1)) Staff.PianoPedalBracket

See
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/modifying-broken-spanners

HTH,
David
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Re: tweaking only the broken part of a pedal bracket

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi David,

> See 
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/modifying-broken-spanners

Perfect.
Apologies that I didn’t find that myself… but at least now the answer is here 
in the list archive!  ;)

Cheers,
Kieren. 



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Re: Telemann's "Strich"

[Andrew Bernard]

I think he should adhere to the original look and feel. After all the work is 
entirely embedded in the 18c cultural milieu – figured bass practice, can’t get 
much more 18c than that – and the urge to squash everything into our 
Barenreiter Common Era practice look and feel should be relaxed somewhat 
occasionally. This is really closely related to the seemingly unpopular thread 
recently on curved beams. I for one take effort to make my contemporary scores 
match the aesthetic of the composer they are from, and my 18c scores to have 
some sort of 18c feel where possible. Perhaps I should buy some copper sheet 
and a set of gravers. :-)

Andrew

On 21/12/2015, 11:10, "Simon Albrecht" 
 wrote:

For a reengraving it’s definitely better to have them outside the staff, 
together with the actual figures. One shouldn’t try sticking too closely 
to the appearance of 18th century writing/engraving.

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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 157, Issue 92

[Cynthia Karl]

> On Dec 21, 2015, at 3:10 AM, Simon Albrecht  wrote:
> 
> Pardon, did you want to include any text with this e-mail?
> Also please remember editing the subject line.
> 
> Yours, Simon
> 

No, it was an error, completely inadvertent.  Please accept my abject apologies.

Pat Karl


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Re: Telemann's "Strich"

[David Kastrup]

Andrew Bernard  writes:

> I think he should adhere to the original look and feel. After all the
> work is entirely embedded in the 18c cultural milieu – figured bass
> practice, can’t get much more 18c than that – and the urge to squash
> everything into our Barenreiter Common Era practice look and feel
> should be relaxed somewhat occasionally. This is really closely
> related to the seemingly unpopular thread recently on curved beams. I
> for one take effort to make my contemporary scores match the aesthetic
> of the composer they are from, and my 18c scores to have some sort of
> 18c feel where possible. Perhaps I should buy some copper sheet and a
> set of gravers. :-)

The point of an Urtext is to convey the same musical information as the
original (usually a manuscript) using modern typography.  That very much
is in line with "squash everything into our Barenreiter Common Era
practice look and feel".

Realistically, that's what a program like LilyPond is able to support
reliably with realistic effort.

If you instead want to reinvent 18th century visual aesthetics, you'll
either be writing and maintaining your own versions of computer
typesetting programs and algorithms, or you are indeed best served with
acquiring the traditional tools of the trade.  However, don't
underestimate the tool set of the 18th century: you'll invest a lot of
money and effort to come anywhere even close to best practices.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: Telemann's "Strich"

[Robert Blackstone]

Hi Andrew,

Decapitated arrows as stiff slurs. Why not?  Perhaps I would like to try it, 
some day. (But as a LilyPond newbie there are many more urgent things I have to 
learn now.)

But also I have to decide whether or not to copy Telemann's Strich in the 
modern version. That depends on whether they are really and only figured bass 
extenders, as has been argued in this thread, for which there is a more 
official visual marking, or whether it is just Telemann's way of indicating 
that the accompaying keyboard player should not play or add chords beyond the 
first note of such a "slurred" bass progression.

As for your last remark: I would consider it as a very harmless manifestation 
of human greed.

Best regards,
Robert

PS While I was writing this reply your next mail(s) arrived.

Ref.: "I think he should adhere to the original look and feel." 
I fully agree, and that is what I intend to do, the more so since "Telemann's 
Strich" does not seem to be identical with a figured bass extender in all 
occurrences. 
Thanks for this comment.

On 21 Dec 2015, at 00:16 , Andrew Bernard  wrote:

> Interesting!
> 
> I have a generalised arrow drawing function that draws arrows of any length 
> in any rotational position, done in Scheme. If I removed the arrowhead, do 
> you think that would be useful? My arrows are not tapered lines, but of 
> uniform thickness.
> 
> Amusingly, recently we wanted curved beams. Now we want straight slurs!
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Writing converter to display Notes as Numbers

[David Kastrup]

Merk Waldemar  writes:

> but I need more than only display numbers in noteheads. My intension is to 
> write songs which looks like this:
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zw7cszpbi29wwb/01_SILENT%20NIGHT.PDF?dl=0

You presumably mean Jianpu
.  If I
remember correctly, there are no finished solutions.  One would likely
take a look at how tablatures are implemented and work from there.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: Writing converter to display Notes as Numbers

[Malte Meyn]

Am 21.12.2015 um 12:12 schrieb David Kastrup:

You presumably mean Jianpu
.


From the article:
“There are technical methods of printing numbered notation (in various 
forms) with GNU LilyPond.[10][11][12]”


You might want to look at these references 10 to 12 ;)

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Re: Telemann's "Strich"

[Andrew Bernard]

How about this:

\version "2.19.33"

{
  \clef bass
  \time 3/8
  c8 a, gis,
  \stemUp a,8 \stemDown a^\markup { \draw-line #'(4 . -1) } g
}

Andrew


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Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 157, Issue 92

[Simon Albrecht]

's perspective. That's what I learned in
my clarinet and saxophone lessons.

HTH,
Klaus



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Subject: Re: Telemann's "Strich"
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Interesting!

I have a generalised arrow drawing function that draws arrows of any length in 
any rotational position, done in Scheme. If I removed the arrowhead, do you 
think that would be useful? My arrows are not tapered lines, but of uniform 
thickness.

Amusingly, recently we wanted curved beams. Now we want straight slurs!

Andrew




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Digest quoting (was: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 157, Issue 92)

[David Kastrup]

Simon Albrecht  writes:

> Pardon, did you want to include any text with this e-mail?
> Also please remember editing the subject line.

Simon, how many copies of this weekly digest do you think we'll want
fully quoted in the next weekly digest?

Chain letters tend to include some "don't break the chain" admonishment.
With regard to digest fullquotes, it is _essential_ to break the chain.

Thank you.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Re: Digest quoting

[Simon Albrecht]

On 21.12.2015 10:24, David Kastrup wrote:

Simon Albrecht  writes:


Pardon, did you want to include any text with this e-mail?
Also please remember editing the subject line.

Simon, how many copies of this weekly digest do you think we'll want
fully quoted in the next weekly digest?

Chain letters tend to include some "don't break the chain" admonishment.
With regard to digest fullquotes, it is _essential_ to break the chain.


Sorry for not doing so and thanks for doing so :-)

Best, Simon

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Re: Telemann's "Strich"

[Robert Blackstone]

On 21 Dec 2015, at 09:43 , Andrew Bernard  wrote:

> How about this:
> 
> \version "2.19.33"
> 
> {
>   \clef bass
>   \time 3/8
>   c8 a, gis,
>   \stemUp a,8 \stemDown a^\markup { \draw-line #'(4 . -1) } g
> }
> 
> Andrew
> 

Beautiful!

Many thanks.

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Re: Digest quoting

[David Kastrup]

Simon Albrecht  writes:

> On 21.12.2015 10:24, David Kastrup wrote:
>> Simon Albrecht  writes:
>>
>>> Pardon, did you want to include any text with this e-mail?
>>> Also please remember editing the subject line.
>> Simon, how many copies of this weekly digest do you think we'll want
>> fully quoted in the next weekly digest?
>>
>> Chain letters tend to include some "don't break the chain" admonishment.
>> With regard to digest fullquotes, it is _essential_ to break the chain.
>
> Sorry for not doing so and thanks for doing so :-)

It will be broken if nobody fullquotes this week's digest after it has
come out.  The jury is still out on that one.  I merely did not inflate
the number of fullquoted digests this week from 2 to even more.

Let's hope that next week's number will be 0.

-- 
David Kastrup

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Writing converter to display Notes as Numbers

[Merk Waldemar]

Hello

I was very happy when I found lilypond . It is ingenious and simple and can 
be carried out so versatile . Since a while I 'm looking for a software 
with which I can write notes in numbers .

something like that:

#(define Ez_numbers_engraver
   (make-engraver
(acknowledgers
 ((note-head-interface engraver grob source-engraver)
  (let* ((context (ly:translator-context engraver))
 (tonic-pitch (ly:context-property context 'tonic))
 (tonic-name (ly:pitch-notename tonic-pitch))
 (grob-pitch
  (ly:event-property (event-cause grob) 'pitch))
 (grob-name (ly:pitch-notename grob-pitch))
 (delta (modulo (- grob-name tonic-name) 7))
 (note-names
  (make-vector 7 (number->string (1+ delta)
(ly:grob-set-property! grob 'note-names note-names))

#(set-global-staff-size 26)

\layout {
  ragged-right = ##t
  \context {
\Voice
\consists \Ez_numbers_engraver
  }
}

\relative c' {
  \easyHeadsOn
  c4 d e f
  g4 a b c \break

  \key a \major
  a,4 b cis d
  e4 fis gis a \break

  \key d \dorian
  d,4 e f g
  a4 b c d
}

but I need more than only display numbers in noteheads. My intension is to 
write songs which looks like this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zw7cszpbi29wwb/01_SILENT%20NIGHT.PDF?dl=0

I would be very happy, finding anyone who could help me to write a 
converter to make it possible switching for a note to a number sight.

Thanks!
Waldemar



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Re: Writing converter to display Notes as Numbers

[David Kastrup]

Malte Meyn  writes:

> Am 21.12.2015 um 12:12 schrieb David Kastrup:
>> You presumably mean Jianpu
>> .
>
> From the article:
> “There are technical methods of printing numbered notation (in various
> forms) with GNU LilyPond.[10][11][12]”
>
> You might want to look at these references 10 to 12 ;)

I'm years behind getting the stuff I actually use working in LilyPond,
so it's certainly not me who is going to do the bulk of the
implementation.  I'm likely to contribute occasional help to such an
endeavor, particularly when there are hard roadblocks.  But I'm not
going to be the driving force.

-- 
David Kastrup

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