Re: Courtesy Accidentals and Abbv.

2016-08-30 Thread Paul Scott 
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:42:06PM -0500, bmg xc9 wrote:
> How does one show courtesy accidentals (specifically a natural sign),

An exclamation point between the pitch name and the time value gives
the appropriate flat, sharp or natural and a question mark puts that
accidental in parentheses.

Using English pitchnames a!4 will give a quarter note A.

> and also how does one display the abbreviated names to the left of each
> system.

with shortInstrumentName

See 1.6.3 in the notation manual if you are using 2.18 or 2.19

HTH

Paul



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Re: Courtesy Accidentals and Abbv.

2016-08-30 Thread Brian Barker 

At 23:42 30/08/2016 -0500, Bonly Monly Gonly wrote:

How does one show courtesy accidentals (specifically a natural sign), ...


The Notation Manual distinguishes between reminder and cautionary 
accidentals; I'm not sure which you mean:
"Normally accidentals are printed automatically, but you may also 
print them manually. A reminder accidental can be forced by adding an 
exclamation mark ! after the pitch. A cautionary accidental (i.e., an 
accidental within parentheses) can be obtained by adding the question 
mark ? after the pitch. These extra accidentals can also be used to 
produce natural signs."


... and also how does one display the abbreviated names to the left 
of each system.


Again, the The Notation Manual:
"The value of instrumentName is used for the first staff, and the 
value of shortInstrumentName is used for all succeeding staves."

- and its example:

\new Staff \with {
instrumentName = #"Violin "
shortInstrumentName = #"Vln. "
}
{ c4.. g'16 c4.. g'16 \break | c1 }

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Courtesy Accidentals and Abbv.

2016-08-30 Thread bmg xc9 
How does one show courtesy accidentals (specifically a natural sign), and
also how does one display the abbreviated names to the left of each system.
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Re: Lilypond reading pdf's

2016-08-30 Thread Johan Vromans 
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:46:14 +0100
Richard Shann  wrote:

> I think you linked to the wrong video here, either

Oops -- Sorry!

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Re: Lilypond reading pdf's

2016-08-30 Thread Richard Shann 
On Tue, 2016-08-30 at 14:29 +0200, Johan Vromans wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:15:53 +0200
> Pierre Perol-Schneider  wrote:
> 
> > In conclusion, since you can typeset a ly file as fast as you read the
> > music, it is far more interesting to do that than to go through a scanning
> > process.
> 
> To chime in on this: I use Denemo to enter new music. Its separation of
> rhythm and melody is a real time saver, especially if you have a (even
> cheap) MIDI keyboard.
> https://vimeo.com/81814901

I think you linked to the wrong video here, either

https://vimeo.com/61994482

(very short), or

https://vimeo.com/62188678

(a bit longer) cover entering rhythm followed by notes.

There are some improvements over what is shown in these videos as well,
but they give the general idea.

Richard


> Denemo exports LilyPond, which I then edit further in Frescobaldi and/or
> Emacs.
> 
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Re: Markup text collision

2016-08-30 Thread David Wright 
On Tue 30 Aug 2016 at 14:35:33 (-0400), Ralph Palmer wrote:
> I'm running ly 2.19.40 under Windows 7.
> 
> I'm trying to order, from top to bottom, a markup text ("IABACA"), a
> rehearsal mark, ("I"), and a tempo mark (quarter note = 200).
> 
> I can get them in order, but the markup text collides with the "poet" text
> fromt the header. Can anyone help me out here?
> 
> %%% begin snippet 
> 
> \version "2.19.40"
> \include "english.ly"
> 
> 
> \paper {
>   #(set-paper-size "letter")
>   top-margin = 0.5\in
> }
> 
> \header {
>   title = \markup { \fontsize #-0.5 \bold "Something"}
>   poet = "Another thing"

poet = \markup { \column { "Another thing" " " } }

Just a workaround, though. Untested when combined with other header items.

Cheers,
David.

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Markup text collision

2016-08-30 Thread Ralph Palmer 
Greetings -

I'm running ly 2.19.40 under Windows 7.

I'm trying to order, from top to bottom, a markup text ("IABACA"), a
rehearsal mark, ("I"), and a tempo mark (quarter note = 200).

I can get them in order, but the markup text collides with the "poet" text
fromt the header. Can anyone help me out here?

%%% begin snippet 

\version "2.19.40"
\include "english.ly"


\paper {
  #(set-paper-size "letter")
  top-margin = 0.5\in
}

\header {
  title = \markup { \fontsize #-0.5 \bold "Something"}
  poet = "Another thing"
}

%#(set-global-staff-size 20.0)

IABACAtest =
\relative c' {
  \clef treble
  \key e \minor
  \time 3/4
  \tempo 4 = 200
  \set Score.markFormatter = #format-mark-box-alphabet

  % Introduction
  \mark #9
  \once \override TextScript.outside-staff-priority = #2000
  \once \override TextScript.extra-offset = #'(-4 . 3)
  r8^\markup { IABACA } b' d g b d |
  c8 b a g a g |
  c8 b a g a g |
  c8 b a g a g |
  c8 b a g a g |
}


\score {
  \IABACAtest
}
\layout {
  indent = 0
}

%%% end snippet 

Thanks in advance,

Ralph

-- 
Ralph Palmer
Brattleboro, VT
USA
palmer.r.vio...@gmail.com


IABACA_test.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
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Re: \eps-file error

2016-08-30 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider 
Hi Federico,

The unit is the same as in markups command.
Try :

\version "2.19.46"

\markuplist {
  \epsfile #X #20 #"test.eps"
  \override #'(thickness . 5)
  \draw-line #'(20 . 0)
}

HTH,
Pierre

2016-08-30 17:18 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni :

> Il giorno lun 29 ago 2016 alle 18:32, Graham King <
> graham.k...@tremagi.org.uk> ha scritto:
>
>> On Mon, 2016-08-29 at 18:15 +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:
>>
>>> \version "2.19.46"
>>> \markup {
>>>   \eps-file #X #0 #"test.eps"
>>> }
>>>
>>> \eps-file should be \epsfile (no dash).  After that, test.eps throws an
>> error on my system, but your mileage may vary.
>>
>
> You are right, I misread the doc.
> It didn't work because I set the size to 0 (in my mind it was the X
> position.. definitely I had reading problems yesterday). So this works:
>
> \markup {
>  \epsfile #X #20 #"test.eps"
> }
>
> I'm curious to know: what's the unit of the size? (in this case #20)
>
>
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Re: \eps-file error

2016-08-30 Thread Federico Bruni 
Il giorno lun 29 ago 2016 alle 18:32, Graham King 
 ha scritto:

On Mon, 2016-08-29 at 18:15 +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:

\version "2.19.46"
\markup {
  \eps-file #X #0 #"test.eps"
}

\eps-file should be \epsfile (no dash).  After that, test.eps throws 
an error on my system, but your mileage may vary.


You are right, I misread the doc.
It didn't work because I set the size to 0 (in my mind it was the X 
position.. definitely I had reading problems yesterday). So this works:


\markup {
 \epsfile #X #20 #"test.eps"
}

I'm curious to know: what's the unit of the size? (in this case #20)


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Re: Lilypond reading pdf's

2016-08-30 Thread Johan Vromans 
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 13:15:53 +0200
Pierre Perol-Schneider  wrote:

> In conclusion, since you can typeset a ly file as fast as you read the
> music, it is far more interesting to do that than to go through a scanning
> process.

To chime in on this: I use Denemo to enter new music. Its separation of
rhythm and melody is a real time saver, especially if you have a (even
cheap) MIDI keyboard.
https://vimeo.com/81814901
Denemo exports LilyPond, which I then edit further in Frescobaldi and/or
Emacs.


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Re: Lilypond reading pdf's

2016-08-30 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider 
Hi Donald, Hi All,

As it has already been said, direct conversion (pdf2ly) is not possible.
You have to go through a 3rd party product to get an XML file and then do
the xml2ly conversion.
I'm testing those OMR from time to time (you can add
http://www.myriad-online.com/en/products/omer.htm on the list). Audiveris
is the worst, clearly out of date.
I did the last test in 2015 and I was impressed by the results with
PhotoScore, very few mistakes.
Anyway, remember that the idea is to save time and you will be surprised on
how time consuming are these processes. In any case, even with PhotoScore,
you'll have to edit the ly file and work on it, hard on most case, to get a
nice final result.
In conclusion, since you can typeset a ly file as fast as you read the
music, it is far more interesting to do that than to go through a scanning
process.
My 2 pence.

Cheers,
Pierre

2016-08-30 11:12 GMT+02:00 Johan Vromans :

> On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:21:32 +0100
> "Phil Holmes"  wrote:
>
> > It's possible, though not necessarily easy nor free.
>
> I gave Audiveris a try some time ago. It has a nice UI that allows solving
> scanning problems before the recognition phase.
>
> I don't know if it is still under active development, though.
>
> https://audiveris.kenai.com/
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Re: Lilypond reading pdf's

2016-08-30 Thread Johan Vromans 
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:21:32 +0100
"Phil Holmes"  wrote:

> It's possible, though not necessarily easy nor free.

I gave Audiveris a try some time ago. It has a nice UI that allows solving
scanning problems before the recognition phase.

I don't know if it is still under active development, though.

https://audiveris.kenai.com/

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Re: Lilypond reading pdf's

2016-08-30 Thread Johan Vromans 
On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 10:35:50 +0200
Jacques Menu Muzhic  wrote:

> If I’m not mistaken, SharpEye has been renamed to PhotoScore Ultimate
> some time ago.

A trial version can still be found on

http://www.visiv.co.uk/installsharpeye2.exe

It runs under Wine as well.

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Re: Lilypond reading pdf's

2016-08-30 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic 
Hello Phil,

If I’m not mistaken, SharpEye has been renamed to PhotoScore Ultimate some time 
ago.

JM

> Le 30 août 2016 à 10:21, Phil Holmes  a écrit :
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Donald J. Stewart" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 9:27 PM
> Subject: Lilypond reading pdf's
> 
> 
>> I'm a brand new user (I had used SCORE and SCOR4 through '90s).
>> 
>> I'd like to know if it's possible to scan pdf's into Lilypond and edit these
>> pdf's rather than creating an entirely new score from scratch.
>> 
>> I'm starting a project of creating and archiving a recently deceased
>> composer's work.
>> 
>> Thanks!
> 
> 
> It's possible, though not necessarily easy nor free.
> 
> I use a program called SharpEye (http://www.visiv.co.uk/index.htm) although 
> I'm not convinced it's still possible to buy it.  It looks like PhotoScore 
> does the same sort of thing (http://www.neuratron.com/photoscore.htm).  I 
> assume you can then import the MusicXML to LilyPond.  I personally import it 
> to NoteWorthy (https://noteworthycomposer.com/), clean it up, and then export 
> it to LilyPond with my own converter, which is also available freely.
> 
> --
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Re: Lilypond reading pdf's

2016-08-30 Thread Phil Holmes 
- Original Message - 
From: "Donald J. Stewart" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2016 9:27 PM
Subject: Lilypond reading pdf's



I'm a brand new user (I had used SCORE and SCOR4 through '90s).

I'd like to know if it's possible to scan pdf's into Lilypond and edit 
these

pdf's rather than creating an entirely new score from scratch.

I'm starting a project of creating and archiving a recently deceased
composer's work.

Thanks!



It's possible, though not necessarily easy nor free.

I use a program called SharpEye (http://www.visiv.co.uk/index.htm) although 
I'm not convinced it's still possible to buy it.  It looks like PhotoScore 
does the same sort of thing (http://www.neuratron.com/photoscore.htm).  I 
assume you can then import the MusicXML to LilyPond.  I personally import it 
to NoteWorthy (https://noteworthycomposer.com/), clean it up, and then 
export it to LilyPond with my own converter, which is also available freely.


--
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