Re: Hammer-on and pull-off

[Jacques Menu Muzhic]

Hello Joram,

Thanks for this example.

Going along you lines, the H and P can be centered between the two notes, see 
below.

JM

—

\version "2.19.80"


music = \relative {
  a2 c (^"  P" b )( ^"  H" c ) \glissando d1
}
<<
  \new Staff \with { \omit TextScript } \music
  \new TabStaff \with { \tabFullNotation } \music
>>

music = \relative {
  a2
  <<
{ c2 ( }
{ s4 s4^"P" }
  >>
  <<
{ b2 ) ( }
{ s4 s4^"H" }
  >>
  c2 ) \glissando d1
}
<<
  \new Staff \with { \omit TextScript } \music
  \new TabStaff \with { \tabFullNotation } \music
>>



> Le 22 déc. 2017 à 22:39, Noeck  a écrit :
> 
> Hi Jacques,
> 
> judging from the other answers, I am used to a "semi-classical" notation:
> 
> * slurs in the normal staff as the manual says
> * additional H and P in the tab notation
>   (and S for slide on glissandi, but I consider that as redundant)
> 
> 
> Here is an example:
> 
> \version "2.19.65"
> 
> music = \relative {
>  a c(^"  P" b)(^"  H" c) \glissando d1
> }
> <<
>  \new Staff \with { \omit TextScript } \music
>  \new TabStaff \with { \tabFullNotation } \music
>>> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Joram
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Lining up the word "subito"

[Ivan Kuznetsov]

I have a few places that I want marked "subito piano"
at a 16th triplet to be immediately followed
by crescendo.

The standard way to do this:

  -\markup{ \italic subito \dynamic p }

or even by abbreviating "subito" to "sub.":

  -\markup{ \italic sub. \dynamic p }

takes up two much horizontal space.
See the first three measures of my
attached example.

Ideally,  I would like to
to have the "piano" right below the "sub."
but as in the second three measures of my
attached example, a text in "-\markup{}
appears below the dynamic marking, not above.

How can I get the "sub." to appear vertically above the
dynamic marking?

Thank you for your help.



P.S.  The "Horizontally aligning custom dynamics"
portion of the snippets document does not seem to
be what I want, because sliding the entire dynamic
marking "sub. piano" to the left might indicate that
the piano dynamic level starts before I intend.


Thanks again.

%

\version "2.19.65"
\include "english.ly"

\score {

   \new Staff = "guitar"
   {
 \clef "treble_8"

  % 1 -

  \time 1/4

  <<
  {\voiceOne r4  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo c8\f c8  }
  >>
  |

  <<
  {\voiceOne \times 2/3 {  bf,16  [d'16  f'16] } \times 2/3 {  a,16
 [cs'16 fs'16] }  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo bf,8-\markup{ \italic sub. \dynamic p
}  \<  a,8   }
  >>
  |
  <<
  {\voiceOne r4  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo g,\f   }
  >>

  \bar "||"

  % 2 -

  <<
  {\voiceOne r4  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo c8\f c8  }
  >>
  |

  <<
  {\voiceOne \times 2/3 {  bf,16  [d'16  f'16] } \times 2/3 {  a,16
 [cs'16 fs'16] }  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo bf,8-\markup{ \italic sub.}\p\<  a,8
 }
  >>
  |
  <<
  {\voiceOne r4  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo g,\f   }
  >>

  \bar "||"

   }


  \layout {
\context {
 \Score
  proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1/16)
}
  }

}
\version "2.19.65"
\include "english.ly"

\score {

   \new Staff = "guitar"
   {
 \clef "treble_8"

  % 1 -

  \time 1/4

  <<
  {\voiceOne r4  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo c8\f c8  }
  >>
  |

  <<
  {\voiceOne \times 2/3 {  bf,16  [d'16  f'16] } \times 2/3 {  a,16   [cs'16 fs'16] }  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo bf,8-\markup{ \italic sub. \dynamic p }  \<  a,8   }
  >>
  |
  <<
  {\voiceOne r4  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo g,\f   }
  >>

  \bar "||"

  % 2 -

  <<
  {\voiceOne r4  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo c8\f c8  }
  >>
  |

  <<
  {\voiceOne \times 2/3 {  bf,16  [d'16  f'16] } \times 2/3 {  a,16   [cs'16 fs'16] }  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo bf,8-\markup{ \italic sub.}\p\<  a,8   }
  >>
  |
  <<
  {\voiceOne r4  }
  \context Voice = "vtwo" {\voiceTwo g,\f   }
  >>

  \bar "||"

   }


  \layout {
\context {
 \Score
  proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1/16)
}
  }

}


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Next round on frescobaldi dependencies

[Simon Albrecht]

Hello everybody,
   just to let you know: After gathering from the recent thread that the 
situation with frescobaldi dependencies and conflicting versions of python 
would be easier to handle with Ubuntu 17, I tried getting it to work on a 
pristine 17.10 live system - unsucessfully, with another weird bug (?) 
preventing to build sip from source. Here's all the details: 
https://github.com/wbsoft/python-poppler-qt5/issues/14#issuecomment-353697574   
Best, Simon
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Re: Hammer-on and pull-off

[Noeck]

Hi Jacques,

judging from the other answers, I am used to a "semi-classical" notation:

 * slurs in the normal staff as the manual says
 * additional H and P in the tab notation
   (and S for slide on glissandi, but I consider that as redundant)


Here is an example:

\version "2.19.65"

music = \relative {
  a c(^"  P" b)(^"  H" c) \glissando d1
}
<<
  \new Staff \with { \omit TextScript } \music
  \new TabStaff \with { \tabFullNotation } \music
>>


Cheers,
Joram

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Re: Hammer-on and pull-off

[bb]

5 string Banjo music quite often is notated and published as tab
exclusively. Slides (glissandos), hammer ons and pull offs are the rule
rather than exception in the folky Banjo stile.

In classical guitar as a rule the skilled player has to transform the
slur to a hammer or pull or a glissando.

Regards

Am 22.12.2017 um 15:31 schrieb bart deruyter:
> Hi,
>
> in my experience there seems to be a difference in notiation between
> classical music for gutiar and popular music. So far I have never seen
> H or P in scores for classical guitar, but sometimes in educational books.
>
> On the other hand I have sometimes seen it in sheet music for popular
> music, mainly in the tabulature but sometimes in the actual score too.
>
> HTH,
>
> Bart
>
> http://www.bartart3d.be/
> On Twitter 
> On Identi.ca 
> On Google+ 
>
> 2017-12-22 15:19 GMT+01:00 Menu Jacques  >:
>
> Hello folks,
>
> The LPNR states that:
>
> Hammer-on and pull-off can be obtained using slurs.
>
> \new TabStaff {
>   \relative c' {
>     d4( e\2)
>     a( g) 
>   }
> }
>
>
> Is that the regular way to write such fretted strings instruments
> music, or is sometimes an H or P placed between the two notes, as
> Finales does (see attached image)?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> JM
>
>
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Re: Hammer-on and pull-off

[Menu Jacques]

Thanks bb and Bart!

JM

> Le 22 déc. 2017 à 15:31, bart deruyter  a écrit :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> in my experience there seems to be a difference in notiation between 
> classical music for gutiar and popular music. So far I have never seen H or P 
> in scores for classical guitar, but sometimes in educational books.
> 
> On the other hand I have sometimes seen it in sheet music for popular music, 
> mainly in the tabulature but sometimes in the actual score too.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Bart
> 
> http://www.bartart3d.be/ 
> On Twitter 
> On Identi.ca 
> On Google+ 
> 
> 2017-12-22 15:19 GMT+01:00 Menu Jacques  >:
> Hello folks,
> 
> The LPNR states that:
> 
> Hammer-on and pull-off can be obtained using slurs.
> 
> \new TabStaff {
>   \relative c' {
> d4( e\2)
> a( g) 
>   }
> }
> 
> 
> Is that the regular way to write such fretted strings instruments music, or 
> is sometimes an H or P placed between the two notes, as Finales does (see 
> attached image)?
> 
> Thanks for your help!
> 
> JM
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Hammer-on and pull-off

[bart deruyter]

Hi,

in my experience there seems to be a difference in notiation between
classical music for gutiar and popular music. So far I have never seen H or
P in scores for classical guitar, but sometimes in educational books.

On the other hand I have sometimes seen it in sheet music for popular
music, mainly in the tabulature but sometimes in the actual score too.

HTH,

Bart

http://www.bartart3d.be/
On Twitter 
On Identi.ca 
On Google+ 

2017-12-22 15:19 GMT+01:00 Menu Jacques :

> Hello folks,
>
> The LPNR states that:
>
> Hammer-on and pull-off can be obtained using slurs.
>
> \new TabStaff {
>   \relative c' {
> d4( e\2)
> a( g)
>   }
> }
>
>
> Is that the regular way to write such fretted strings instruments music,
> or is sometimes an H or P placed between the two notes, as Finales does
> (see attached image)?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> JM
>
>
>
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Re: Hammer-on and pull-off

[bb]

My last mail did not answer your question completely. The answer is, you
have the choice.
Here an example if you prefer H and P without slurs

\version "2.19.2"

\new TabStaff <<
  {
    % \key g \major
    \tabFullNotation
    \stemDown
    %\partial 4
 g8^" H" a  a^" P" [g]   
  }
>>

Am 22.12.2017 um 15:19 schrieb Menu Jacques:
> Hello folks,
>
> The LPNR states that:
>
> Hammer-on and pull-off can be obtained using slurs.
>
> \new TabStaff {
>   \relative c' {
>     d4( e\2)
>     a( g) 
>   }
> }
>
>
> Is that the regular way to write such fretted strings instruments
> music, or is sometimes an H or P placed between the two notes, as
> Finales does (see attached image)?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> JM
>
>
>
>
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Re: Hammer-on and pull-off

[bb]

Here an arbitrary example as I use it
\version "2.19.2"
  test = {
 {
   8 g'     %1. quarter note
  \times 2/3{d,^"  P " (c)^" H" (d)} %2. quarter note
   g %3. quarter note
  d^" P" (c) | %4. quarter note
   g'  %5. quarter note  
  \times 2/3{gis,^"  H " (f)^" P" (g)} %6. quarter note
   g %7. quarter note 
  8 g %8. quarter note 
 
  {g,8^"  H" (a)} 8 [g]  
  }  }

\score {
  <<
    \new Staff {
    \tempo "Thema"
    %\accidentalStyle dodecaphonic
    %\accidentalStyle modern
    \relative c''{
    \test
  }  }

    \new TabStaff {
    \key g \major
    \tabFullNotation
    \stemDown
 {
  8 g'     %1. quarter note
  \times 2/3{d^" P " (c)^" H" (d)} %2. quarter note
   g %3. quarter note
  d^" P" (c\5) | %4. quarter note
   g'  %5. quarter note
 
  \times 2/3{gis,^" H " (f)^" P" (g)} %6. quarter note 
   g %7. quarter note 
  8 g %8. quarter note
  % ... etc.
  {g,8^"H" (a)} 8 [g,]
  }
    }
  >>
}

Am 22.12.2017 um 15:19 schrieb Menu Jacques:
> Hello folks,
>
> The LPNR states that:
>
> Hammer-on and pull-off can be obtained using slurs.
>
> \new TabStaff {
>   \relative c' {
>     d4( e\2)
>     a( g) 
>   }
> }
>
>
> Is that the regular way to write such fretted strings instruments
> music, or is sometimes an H or P placed between the two notes, as
> Finales does (see attached image)?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> JM
>
>
>
>
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Re: Tremolo question

[Ben]

On 12/22/2017 9:23 AM, Mike Dean wrote:
Just needed to add the \once command (since I have other tremolos 
--tremolii???-- that behave ok)


\version "2.19.80"

\language "english"

\new Staff {

Inline image 1

Mike Dean



http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/learning/tweaking-methods#the-once-prefix

Glad you got it sorted :)


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Re: Tremolo question

[Mike Dean]

Just needed to add the \once command (since I have other tremolos
--tremolii???-- that behave ok)

\version "2.19.80"

\language "english"

\new Staff {

  \clef bass
  \relative c

  \repeat tremolo 8 {
   *\once * \override Beam.positions = #'(0 . 1)
bf,16 b' }

[image: Inline image 1]
Without the \once command, the other tremolos are further slanted, which is
not desirable:

[image: Inline image 2]
Thanks again!!

}

Mike Dean

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Mike Dean  wrote:

> more looking for slanted tremolo lines (like the 0.1 slant)
>
> Mike Dean
>
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Ben  wrote:
>
>> On 12/22/2017 8:24 AM, Mike Dean wrote:
>>
>> The tremolo construct
>> \clef bass \repeat tremolo 8 { bf,16 bf' }
>>
>> produces the output:
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> is there a setting that can angle the tremolo so that the left end is
>> closer to the lower note?
>> Mike Dean
>>
>>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Not sure it will look "perfect" or "better" but, did you mean something
>> like this?
>>
>> \version "2.19.80"
>>
>> \language "english"
>>
>> \new Staff {
>>
>>   \clef bass
>>   \relative c
>>
>>   \repeat tremolo 8 {
>> \override Beam.positions = #'(0 . 1)
>> bf,16 b' }
>> }
>>
>>
>> Maybe  \override Beam.positions = #'(-1 . 1)  is what you want?
>> You want a slant or actually closer to the note itself?
>>
>> I think what you had was close...
>>
>> (see attached)
>>
>>
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Hammer-on and pull-off

[Menu Jacques]

Hello folks,

The LPNR states that:

Hammer-on and pull-off can be obtained using slurs.

\new TabStaff {
  \relative c' {
d4( e\2)
a( g) 
  }
}


Is that the regular way to write such fretted strings instruments music, or is 
sometimes an H or P placed between the two notes, as Finales does (see attached 
image)?

Thanks for your help!

JM



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Re: Tremolo question

[Mike Dean]

more looking for slanted tremolo lines (like the 0.1 slant)

Mike Dean

On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Ben  wrote:

> On 12/22/2017 8:24 AM, Mike Dean wrote:
>
> The tremolo construct
> \clef bass \repeat tremolo 8 { bf,16 bf' }
>
> produces the output:
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> is there a setting that can angle the tremolo so that the left end is
> closer to the lower note?
> Mike Dean
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Not sure it will look "perfect" or "better" but, did you mean something
> like this?
>
> \version "2.19.80"
>
> \language "english"
>
> \new Staff {
>
>   \clef bass
>   \relative c
>
>   \repeat tremolo 8 {
> \override Beam.positions = #'(0 . 1)
> bf,16 b' }
> }
>
>
> Maybe  \override Beam.positions = #'(-1 . 1)  is what you want?
> You want a slant or actually closer to the note itself?
>
> I think what you had was close...
>
> (see attached)
>
>
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Re: Tremolo question

[Ben]

On 12/22/2017 8:24 AM, Mike Dean wrote:

The tremolo construct
\clef bass \repeat tremolo 8 { bf,16 bf' }

produces the output:

Inline image 1

is there a setting that can angle the tremolo so that the left end is 
closer to the lower note?

Mike Dean



Mike,

Not sure it will look "perfect" or "better" but, did you mean something 
like this?


\version "2.19.80"

\language "english"

\new Staff {

  \clef bass
  \relative c

  \repeat tremolo 8 {
    \override Beam.positions = #'(0 . 1)
    bf,16 b' }
}


Maybe  \override Beam.positions = #'(-1 . 1)  is what you want?
You want a slant or actually closer to the note itself?

I think what you had was close...

(see attached)


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Re: Tremolo question

[Andrew Bernard]

Hi Mike,

Do you mean you want it on an angle or just shifted left?

Andrew
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Tremolo question

[Mike Dean]

The tremolo construct
\clef bass \repeat tremolo 8 { bf,16 bf' }

produces the output:

[image: Inline image 1]

is there a setting that can angle the tremolo so that the left end is
closer to the lower note?
Mike Dean
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