Re: slur and percent

[Aaron Hill]

Is there any way to write this

\version "2.19.81"
{a( b c' a a b c' a)}

with a repeat percent? Something similar to this:

\version "2.19.81"
{\repeat percent 2 {a( b c' a} ) }

Thank you, g.


I found in the documentation the "Isolated percents". Here it is the
documentation excerpt:

makePercent =
#(define-music-function (note) (ly:music?)
   "Make a percent repeat the same length as NOTE."
   (make-music 'PercentEvent
   'length (ly:music-length note)))

\relative c'' {
  \makePercent s1
}

What about the midi generation? Should I handle it with tag or there is 
a

better way?


Consider the following:

%%%
\version "2.19.80"

makePercent =
  #(define-music-function (parser location note) (ly:music?)
"Make a percent repeat the same length as NOTE."
(make-music 'PercentEvent
  'length (ly:music-length note)))

original = { a4( b c' a a b c' a) }

percentRepeat = { \repeat percent 2 { \slurHalfSolid a4( b c' a) } }

hiddenNotesAndMakePercent = { <<
  { \oneVoice \slurHalfSolid a4( b c' a \hideNotes a b c' a) 
\unHideNotes } \\

  { s1 \makePercent s1 }

}


\score { \original \layout {} \midi {} }
\score { \percentRepeat \layout {} }
\score { \unfoldRepeats \percentRepeat \midi {} }
\score { \hiddenNotesAndMakePercent \layout {} \midi {} }
%%%

These all produce the same MIDI output with different visual renderings. 
 Obviously, the use of \slurHalfSolid is optional, but I think it adds a 
useful visual distinction to the normal slur.



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Font caching problems on the Mac

[Arle Lommel]

A while back I mentioned very long start-up times for Lilypond on the Mac and 
someone suggested that the problem is with font caching. Today I was able to 
confirm that as the case. I installed a number of new fonts (Noto from Google) 
and suddenly Lilypond was facing extremely long load times (walk away and 
prepare yourself a cup of your favorite beverage and check back to see if it’s 
done recaching the fonts).

Not sure what can be done, as the inefficiency is in the font handling 
mechanism.

-Arle
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Re: Another Figured Bass problem

[Lukas-Fabian Moser]

Am 30.04.2018 um 12:28 schrieb David Kastrup:

 which can be achieved by using ‘_’ instead of a number.

That's what I wanted to propose, but it didn't produce what I hoped for:

\figures { < 5 4 > < _ 3+> }

Oh.  Ok.  Sorry for the noise.

I made this work for me by inserting at line 206 of 
scm/translation-functions.scm (current master):


    (if (and (not fig-markup) (not alt-markup))
    (begin
  (set! fig-markup (markup #:transparent #:number "0"))
  ))

But I expect this is way too hacky and could never be considered as a 
viable way of introducing this feature?


Best
Lukas

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Re: Another Figured Bass problem

[Lukas-Fabian Moser]

Am 30.04.2018 um 12:28 schrieb David Kastrup:

 which can be achieved by using ‘_’ instead of a number.

That's what I wanted to propose, but it didn't produce what I hoped for:

\figures { < 5 4 > < _ 3+> }

Oh.  Ok.  Sorry for the noise.

I made this work for me by inserting at line 206 of 
scm/translation-functions.scm (current master):


    (if (and (not fig-markup) (not alt-markup))
    (begin
  (set! fig-markup (markup #:transparent #:number "0"))
  ))

But I expect this is way too hacky and could never be considered as a 
viable way of introducing this feature?


Best
Lukas

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Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

[Noeck]

Hi,

Am 02.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Simon Albrecht:
> I don’t know why the staff-padding override doesn’t immediately work (in
> this example, it only affects the third bracket, which is why I disabled
> it).

I don’t know why and I’d call it a bug, but perhaps there is a place
where this makes sense.
In any case, it is connected to the default direction of the tuplets.
The padding is only effective if the tuplet bracket is placed on the
opposite side (not on the side of the beam as usual).

\version "2.19.80"
{
  \override TupletBracket.outside-staff-priority = 100
  \override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t
  \override TupletBracket.staff-padding = 10
  \tuplet 3/2 4 { \tupletDown c'8 8 8 d' e' f' \tupletUp d'' e'' f'' }
}

Cheers,
Joram

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Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

[Reilly Farrell]

Thank you both!  I appreciate the quick turnaround.  If the difference in
opinion persists I'll return with a minimal example, but in light of what
you've told me I think we can just proceed as we are.

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Simon Albrecht 
wrote:

> On 02.05.2018 18:24, Reilly Farrell wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm editing a short score with tuplets and I could use a spacing solution
>> that would keep all tuplet brackets at a fixed minimum distance above the
>> staff.  (Feedback I've received so far is that the tuplet indications look
>> messy when printed inside the staff rather than above it.)  My question is
>> whether it would be possible to enforce a rule that would keep these
>> brackets above the staff.
>>
>
> Indeed, a minimal example would have been very welcome.
> I have to say this first: tell your client that there’s no good reason for
> keeping tuplets out of the staff. People have all sorts of opinions on what
> looks messy or not, and especially nowadays they tend to be enormously
> hypersensitive against compact layout, resulting in ridiculous waste of
> space.
> But, of course Lily can accommodate your need:
>
> \version "2.19.80"
> {
>   %\override TupletBracket.staff-padding = 10
>   \override TupletBracket.outside-staff-priority = 100
>   \override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t
>   \tupletUp
>   \tuplet 3/2 4 { c'8 8 8 d' e' f' d'' e'' f'' }
> }
>
> By setting outside-staff-priority, it becomes an outside-staff object –
> see  e_002dstaff-objects#the-outside_002dstaff_002dpriority-property>.
> I don’t know why the staff-padding override doesn’t immediately work (in
> this example, it only affects the third bracket, which is why I disabled
> it).
>
> Best, Simon
>



-- 
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reillycfarr...@gmail.com
(650) 787-2751
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Re: Intervals enharmony question

[Jacques Menu Muzhic]

Hello Torsten,

Thanks for the clarification, it is very much appreciated. Will triple 
accidentals be supported as of 2.20?

Incidentally, the OP launched a very interesting discussion on the wider 
subject of notation and modes.

A nice day!

JM

> Le 30 avr. 2018 à 21:39, Torsten Hämmerle  a écrit :
> 
> Jacques Menu Muzhic wrote
>> Going a bit further, I bumped into this case.
>> 
>> Since the note at some interval from another one keeps its pitch name in
>> its different « variants », how about Db’s seconds?
>> 
>> diminished second   Ebbb ???
>> minor secondEbb
>> major secondEb
>> augemented second   E
>> 
>> I’m sure no one ever uses triple flats though, must have missed something…
> 
> Well, incidentally, LilyPond is just about to get triple flats and triple
> sharps (issue 3356).
> And, yes, they do exist.
> 
> That's the triple flat accidental in LilyPond's Emmentaler font:
> 
>  
> 
> And even LilyPond's \chordmode will use triple accidentals if needed (these
> chords don't work in the current official releases yet):
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Extremely hard to find in real life, but yes, triple accidentals do exist.
> 
> All the best,
> Torsten
> 
> 
> 
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Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

[Simon Albrecht]

On 02.05.2018 18:24, Reilly Farrell wrote:

Hi All,

I'm editing a short score with tuplets and I could use a spacing 
solution that would keep all tuplet brackets at a fixed minimum 
distance above the staff.  (Feedback I've received so far is that the 
tuplet indications look messy when printed inside the staff rather 
than above it.)  My question is whether it would be possible to 
enforce a rule that would keep these brackets above the staff.


Indeed, a minimal example would have been very welcome.
I have to say this first: tell your client that there’s no good reason 
for keeping tuplets out of the staff. People have all sorts of opinions 
on what looks messy or not, and especially nowadays they tend to be 
enormously hypersensitive against compact layout, resulting in 
ridiculous waste of space.

But, of course Lily can accommodate your need:

\version "2.19.80"
{
  %\override TupletBracket.staff-padding = 10
  \override TupletBracket.outside-staff-priority = 100
  \override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t
  \tupletUp
  \tuplet 3/2 4 { c'8 8 8 d' e' f' d'' e'' f'' }
}

By setting outside-staff-priority, it becomes an outside-staff object – 
see 
.
I don’t know why the staff-padding override doesn’t immediately work (in 
this example, it only affects the third bracket, which is why I disabled 
it).


Best, Simon

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Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

[David Kastrup]

Reilly Farrell  writes:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm editing a short score with tuplets and I could use a spacing solution
> that would keep all tuplet brackets at a fixed minimum distance above the
> staff.  (Feedback I've received so far is that the tuplet indications look
> messy when printed inside the staff rather than above it.)  My question is
> whether it would be possible to enforce a rule that would keep these
> brackets above the staff.

Minimal example exhibiting the problem?

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tuplet bracket spanner?

[Reilly Farrell]

Hi All,

I'm editing a short score with tuplets and I could use a spacing solution
that would keep all tuplet brackets at a fixed minimum distance above the
staff.  (Feedback I've received so far is that the tuplet indications look
messy when printed inside the staff rather than above it.)  My question is
whether it would be possible to enforce a rule that would keep these
brackets above the staff.

Thank you for any suggestions!
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Re: 1.4.2 Clickable examples

[David Wright]

On Tue 01 May 2018 at 10:45:08 (-0400), Freeman Gilmore wrote:
> I have windows 10
> Reference;
> *Learning Manual v2.18.2   HTML*
>1.4.2 Clickable examples
> 
> Would some one please explain how to do this in detail?
> 
> I hace tried open, save, and open in the download file.
> I have seen it flash open than close after it completed printing.
> And depending on how I open it, I get all the formatting details.

For the clickable examples to work, you don't just need the base file
(like learning-big-page.html) but much of the tree in which the base
file resides. This will include the 256 directories called 00 … ff
in which the clickable targets reside.

When you hover the mouse over a figure, eg Learning, §2.1.1 Bar lines,
you'll see the link target in the browser's status line, thus:
file:///home/david/lilypond-docs/2.19.81/Documentation/29/lily-1154e7df.ly
where file:///home/david/lilypond-docs/2.19.81/ is where I put the
files on my computer; it'll be a different location on yours.

The documentation tree should include:

00/ … ff/ (clickable examples)

changes/ contributor/ css/ essay/ extending/ included/ internals/
learning/ lilypond/ logo/ ly-examples/ misc/ music-glossary/
notation/ pictures/ snippets/ topdocs/ usage/ web/ (non-big html pages)

changes.pdf
contributor-big-page.html contributor.pdf
DEDICATION.html DEDICATION.txt
essay-big-page.html essay.pdf
extending-big-page.html extending.pdf
internals-big-page.html internals.pdf
learning-big-page.html learning.pdf
ly-grammar.txt
music-glossary-big-page.html music-glossary.pdf
notation-big-page.html notation.pdf
snippets-big-page.html snippets.pdf
usage-big-page.html usage.pdf
web-big-page.html web.pdf

My own preference is to start at learning-big-page.html in preference
to learning/index.html as you can scroll the former as well as using
the sidebar for navigation.

Cheers,
David.

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Re: Shortcut for Frescobaldi

[Torsten Hämmerle]

Hi Tim,

Even if this is no Windows forum... ;)
In Windows 10, the contents of the Start Menu Folder (including alle the
shortcuts) can be found in

C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs

There, you'll be able to see the Frescobaldi (and all the other) shortcuts
and, more importantly, their properties.

All the best,
Torsten



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Re: slur and percent

[Gianmaria Lari]

On 2 May 2018 at 08:19, Gianmaria Lari  wrote:

> Is there any way to write this
>
> \version "2.19.81"
> {a( b c' a a b c' a)}
>
>
> with a repeat percent? Something similar to this:
>
> \version "2.19.81"
> {\repeat percent 2 {a( b c' a} ) }
>
> Thank you, g.
>


I found in the documentation the "Isolated percents". Here it is the
documentation excerpt:

makePercent =
#(define-music-function (note) (ly:music?)
   "Make a percent repeat the same length as NOTE."
   (make-music 'PercentEvent
   'length (ly:music-length note)))

\relative c'' {
  \makePercent s1
}


What about the midi generation? Should I handle it with tag or there is a
better way?
Thank you, g.
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Re: Shortcut for Frescobaldi

[Gianmaria Lari]

On 2 May 2018 at 16:31, Tim Slattery  wrote:

> I installed Frescobaldi on my new Win10 PC. Everything's good, except
> that the installation process didn't create a shortcut on the desktop.
> I tried to look at the properties of the entry in the Start menu, but
> apparently you can't do that on Win10 like you could on earlier
> versions. So I looked in the Frescobaldi directory to find the
> executable to point a shortcut to, but -- where is it?
>
> Can somebody tell me where to point the shortcut to?
>

Ciao Tim,

On windows 10, I suggest to do the following:

- Press [Win] +[q]. This will open a menu and a textbox where you can write
the application to search. In this case write "fresc" and you will see the
system finding the application
- click on the application with the mouse right button
- select "Open file location"...

and then widnows will open the folder with the frescobaldi shortcut. Then
you can copy the shortcut on your desktop etc. etc.

g.
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Re: slur and percent

[Gianmaria Lari]

On 2 May 2018 at 14:50, Simon Albrecht  wrote:

> On 02.05.2018 08:19, Gianmaria Lari wrote:
>
>> Is there any way to write this
>>
>> \version "2.19.81"
>> {a( b c' a a b c' a)}
>>
>>
>> with a repeat percent? Something similar to this:
>>
>> \version "2.19.81"
>> {\repeat percent 2 {a( b c' a} ) }
>>
>>
> Probably no sensible/reasonably easy way.
> How is that even supposed to look? I don’t think it’s a good idea, except
> in extreme cases.
>

I'm not sure to really use this because I agree with you it doesn't look
nice.

But it's also true that I would use it for a difficult part for kids, and
percent makes the score more light to read and more clear they have to play
exactly the same as the previous measure.

Ciao, g.
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Shortcut for Frescobaldi

[Tim Slattery]

I installed Frescobaldi on my new Win10 PC. Everything's good, except
that the installation process didn't create a shortcut on the desktop.
I tried to look at the properties of the entry in the Start menu, but
apparently you can't do that on Win10 like you could on earlier
versions. So I looked in the Frescobaldi directory to find the
executable to point a shortcut to, but -- where is it?

Can somebody tell me where to point the shortcut to?

Thanks.

-- 
Tim Slattery
tim  risingdove  com


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Re: slur and percent

[Simon Albrecht]

On 02.05.2018 08:19, Gianmaria Lari wrote:

Is there any way to write this

\version "2.19.81"
{a( b c' a a b c' a)}


with a repeat percent? Something similar to this:

\version "2.19.81"
{\repeat percent 2 {a( b c' a} ) }



Probably no sensible/reasonably easy way.
How is that even supposed to look? I don’t think it’s a good idea, 
except in extreme cases.


Best, Simon

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Re: tenuto fingering: 3t, 2t, 4t, etc.

[David Kastrup]

Gianmaria Lari  writes:

> On 2 May 2018 at 09:25, David Kastrup  wrote:
>
>> Gianmaria Lari  writes:
>>
>> > On 2 May 2018 at 08:56, David Kastrup  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Something like this?
>> >>
>> >> \version "2.19.81"
>> >>
>> >> t =
>> >> #(define-event-function (n) (index?)
>> >>   #{ \tweak text #(format "~dt" n) -1 #})
>> >>
>> >> {
>> >>   c\t1 d\t2 e2
>> >> }
>> >>
>> >
>> > interesting! As you know David, to indicate a finger on the 4th row of
>> the
>> > accordion right keyboard, we circle the finger number. This same notation
>> > is used on violin/guitar etc. to indicate a chord number.
>> > For example if I need to indicate a "c" pitch to play on the 4th row I
>> > write "c\4".
>> >
>> > Wouldn't be better to define a custom fingering function for that so that
>> > it is treated as a fingering?
>>
>> Uh, the above is a custom fingering function resulting in a fingering
>> event.  I'm not sure what you want instead.
>
>
> Sorry I wrote "... to indicate a chord number"

No, you didn't.  Not at the point I answered.

> but I wanted to say "... to indicate a string number"! (In italian
> corda = string). So:
>
> 1) I would like to understand if  it make sense to avoid to use the string
> notation to indicate a finger notation and
> 2) if yes, how to create a custom fingering notation to circle a finger
> number
>
> I hope I have been more clear. :(

Not really.  Obviously you can use what I wrote for creating fingerings
(or string indications in an analogous way) with arbitrary markup,
including circled numbers.

I have no idea what problem you are trying to solve here, though.

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Re: tenuto fingering: 3t, 2t, 4t, etc.

[Gianmaria Lari]

On 2 May 2018 at 09:25, David Kastrup  wrote:

> Gianmaria Lari  writes:
>
> > On 2 May 2018 at 08:56, David Kastrup  wrote:
> >>
> >> Something like this?
> >>
> >> \version "2.19.81"
> >>
> >> t =
> >> #(define-event-function (n) (index?)
> >>   #{ \tweak text #(format "~dt" n) -1 #})
> >>
> >> {
> >>   c\t1 d\t2 e2
> >> }
> >>
> >
> > interesting! As you know David, to indicate a finger on the 4th row of
> the
> > accordion right keyboard, we circle the finger number. This same notation
> > is used on violin/guitar etc. to indicate a chord number.
> > For example if I need to indicate a "c" pitch to play on the 4th row I
> > write "c\4".
> >
> > Wouldn't be better to define a custom fingering function for that so that
> > it is treated as a fingering?
>
> Uh, the above is a custom fingering function resulting in a fingering
> event.  I'm not sure what you want instead.


Sorry I wrote "... to indicate a chord number" but I wanted to say "... to
indicate a string number"! (In italian corda = string). So:

1) I would like to understand if  it make sense to avoid to use the string
notation to indicate a finger notation and
2) if yes, how to create a custom fingering notation to circle a finger
number

I hope I have been more clear. :(




> --
> David Kastrup
>
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Re: tenuto fingering: 3t, 2t, 4t, etc.

[David Kastrup]

Gianmaria Lari  writes:

> On 2 May 2018 at 08:56, David Kastrup  wrote:
>>
>> Something like this?
>>
>> \version "2.19.81"
>>
>> t =
>> #(define-event-function (n) (index?)
>>   #{ \tweak text #(format "~dt" n) -1 #})
>>
>> {
>>   c\t1 d\t2 e2
>> }
>>
>
> interesting! As you know David, to indicate a finger on the 4th row of the
> accordion right keyboard, we circle the finger number. This same notation
> is used on violin/guitar etc. to indicate a chord number.
> For example if I need to indicate a "c" pitch to play on the 4th row I
> write "c\4".
>
> Wouldn't be better to define a custom fingering function for that so that
> it is treated as a fingering?

Uh, the above is a custom fingering function resulting in a fingering
event.  I'm not sure what you want instead.

-- 
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Re: tenuto fingering: 3t, 2t, 4t, etc.

[Gianmaria Lari]

On 2 May 2018 at 08:56, David Kastrup  wrote:

> Federico Bruni  writes:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > How can I create custom fingerings which are made of a number and a
> > letter?
> > I want to display 3t, 2t, etc.
> >
> > I found this snippet in the LSR:
> > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=83
> >
> > but it allows to use only one character.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Federico
>
> Something like this?
>
> \version "2.19.81"
>
> t =
> #(define-event-function (n) (index?)
>   #{ \tweak text #(format "~dt" n) -1 #})
>
> {
>   c\t1 d\t2 e2
> }
>

interesting! As you know David, to indicate a finger on the 4th row of the
accordion right keyboard, we circle the finger number. This same notation
is used on violin/guitar etc. to indicate a chord number.
For example if I need to indicate a "c" pitch to play on the 4th row I
write "c\4".

Wouldn't be better to define a custom fingering function for that so that
it is treated as a fingering?

Thank you, g.
P.S. Sorry Federico for my misinterpretation
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Re: tenuto fingering: 3t, 2t, 4t, etc.

[David Kastrup]

Federico Bruni  writes:

> Hi all
>
> How can I create custom fingerings which are made of a number and a
> letter?
> I want to display 3t, 2t, etc.
>
> I found this snippet in the LSR:
> http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=83
>
> but it allows to use only one character.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Federico

Something like this?

\version "2.19.81"

t =
#(define-event-function (n) (index?)
  #{ \tweak text #(format "~dt" n) -1 #})

{
  c\t1 d\t2 e2
}

-- 
David Kastrup

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tenuto fingering: 3t, 2t, 4t, etc.

[Federico Bruni]

Hi all

How can I create custom fingerings which are made of a number and a 
letter?

I want to display 3t, 2t, etc.

I found this snippet in the LSR:
http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=83

but it allows to use only one character.

Thanks in advance
Federico




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slur and percent

[Gianmaria Lari]

Is there any way to write this

\version "2.19.81"
{a( b c' a a b c' a)}


with a repeat percent? Something similar to this:

\version "2.19.81"
{\repeat percent 2 {a( b c' a} ) }

Thank you, g.
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