install on MacBook Air

2023-09-12 Thread Joseph DiMarino
Dear Lilypond team,

I have enjoyed Lilypond for many years. I recently got a new computer
(MacBook Air 2020) and am trying to install Lilypond. The computer seems to
identify the executables as being for unix. Is it possible that the MacBook
download link is pointing to the unix files instead of the Mac files?

Best regards,
Joe DiMarino


Re: tagline = ##f does not work in score header block

2023-09-12 Thread William Rehwinkel via LilyPond user discussion

Dear Knute,

Searching `lilypond "tagline"` on google I found 
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.23/Documentation/notation/creating-titles-headers-and-footers 
where it is stated "The default LilyPond footer text can be changed by 
adding a tagline in the top-level \header block." (it seems this is 
slightly incorrect because it can be put in some lower-level sections 
like bookpart, maybe that is unintentional).


For the second part, it seems like none of the values that you can 
modify in a header block are in the command index, but 
https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/notation/default-layout-of-bookpart-and-score-titles 
shows all of them.


This raises the question of how someone who is new to lilypond would 
figure out that it is called "tagline", I suppose either they would find 
it in the list of header values in the documentation, or find it through 
some search on google.


-Will

On 9/12/23 18:38, Knute Snortum wrote:

Hi everyone.

I have a few observations that I'd like to share.  Nothin too urgent.

If you put tagline = ##f in a header block, it will work everywhere 
except in the score block.  Here is a MWE to illustrate this:


\version "2.25.7"

% \header { tagline = ##f } % <-- this works

\book {
   % \header { tagline = ##f } % <-- this works
   \bookpart {
     % \header { tagline = ##f } % <-- this works
     \score {
       \header { tagline = ##f } % <-- this does not work
       \new Staff { c''4 4 4 4  }
     }
   }
}

For me the solution looks like I'm going to put a header block in a 
bookpark block surrounding my score block, and put tagline = ##f there.


Another observation: tagline is not in either the command index or the 
index in the Notation Manual.  The documentation I could find on tagline 
was pretty sparse (unless I missed something).


I could fill out an issue if you think it rises to that.

--
Knute Snortum



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tagline = ##f does not work in score header block

2023-09-12 Thread Knute Snortum
Hi everyone.

I have a few observations that I'd like to share.  Nothin too urgent.

If you put tagline = ##f in a header block, it will work everywhere except
in the score block.  Here is a MWE to illustrate this:

\version "2.25.7"

% \header { tagline = ##f } % <-- this works

\book {
  % \header { tagline = ##f } % <-- this works
  \bookpart {
% \header { tagline = ##f } % <-- this works
\score {
  \header { tagline = ##f } % <-- this does not work
  \new Staff { c''4 4 4 4  }
}
  }
}

For me the solution looks like I'm going to put a header block in a
bookpark block surrounding my score block, and put tagline = ##f there.

Another observation: tagline is not in either the command index or the
index in the Notation Manual.  The documentation I could find on tagline
was pretty sparse (unless I missed something).

I could fill out an issue if you think it rises to that.

--
Knute Snortum


Re: Lilypond Terminates on Start-Up

2023-09-12 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Hi,

I'm adding back the mailing list in CC. Please always keep it to allow other
people to chime in.

Thank you for describing the problem precisely.


Le mardi 12 septembre 2023 à 20:21 +, Zone Dremik a écrit :
> Hello,
> 
> I usually start work by double-clicking on a Lilypond-file Icon (.ly ) in a
> finder window. The Apple OS shows the opening-file animation, and starts
> Frescobaldi. 
> 
> Frescobali goes through start up with Splash-Screen, and the full Frescobaldi
> menu appears, but no windows. The selected file does not actually open. 
> 
> At that point, I can go back to the finder and double-click again. The
> selected file then opens, and I can work. (Once Frescobaldi is running
> properly, I can also open files from the Recent-Files menu). I never use the
> Open-File menu choice in Frescobaldi. 
> 
> After a recent Apple System upgrade, Frescobaldi now stalls completely during
> start-up. (Flash-screen, but no menus, no windows). The Apple system monitor
> shows that it is unresponsive and I must force-quit. 
> 
> After I force-quit, I can start Frescobadli again (either double-click a file
> or click the App Icon) and it runs as normal.
> 
> I Re-Installed Frescobaldi. I followed the MacPorts Install link on the
> Frescobaldi website download page. I would normally have used the prebuilt Mac
> OS installer option, but there is a message saying that some features were not
> available via that route. 
> 
> The MacPorts install ran without any error messages, but I am not sure if I
> was doing a fresh install or an upgrade to a newer version. In any case there
> has been no change with running Frescobaldi.


Well, according to the information at the bottom, the version you are running
Frescobaldi 3.1.3, but according to
https://ports.macports.org/port/frescobaldi/
the version currently packaged in MacPorts is Frescobaldi 3.3.0.
That means that the version you are running is actually not the one MacPorts
installed but an older version that is still around. It also says: “installation
kind: standalone .app bundle” which confirms this.

I'd first remove that Frescobaldi app (probably "move to trash" in the
Applications directory? my days of using macOS are long ago) then maybe try to
reinstall the MacPorts app. I don't know whether MacPorts is actually going to
install it to /Applications (CCing Davide who should know more).


> I came rather late to Frescobaldi. I had been using Lilypond (starting about
> ten years ago) on it's own. At that time, I could start Lilypond from the Mac
> Finder, and it would open with a simple text editor and some menu choices.
> Output was sent to a PDF viewer. 
> 
> Is it the case that Lilypond no longer works as a stand-alone app?


Yes, indeed. That app was totally inferior in every way to Frescobaldi or even
other editors, and was causing trouble for us developers (especially with the
switch to 64-bit architectures).


> I am quite satisfied to use Fresobaldi. I had tried to open Lilypond in order
> to double-check what version it was. 
> 
> All the files I work with have \version statements "2.20.0" but Update.ly
> stopped working quite some time ago.


Do you mean convert-ly?


> (Should I make further inquiry about this?)


Yes.


> Would you recommend downloading the latest Lilypond? 


Changing LilyPond won't help. You have a Frescobaldi problem, not a LilyPond
problem.

Regards,
Jean



> Thank you very much for your attention to this matter.
> Sincerely,
> Zon
> 
> Frescobaldi: 3.1.3
> Extension API: 0.9.0
> Python: 3.9.1
> python-ly: 0.9.7
> Qt: 5.11.3
> PyQt: 5.15.2
> sip: 4.19.24
> poppler: 20.12.1
> python-poppler-qt: 0.75.0
> OS: macOS-10.16-x86_64-i386-64bit
> installation kind: standalone .app bundle



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