Augmention dotts with \tabFullNotation
Hi! I'm fidling around with an edition containing among other things a version the piece edited from a Petrucci print from 1509 where some parts of the original fourpart song are intabulated into italian lute tablature. My last effort to get at least a credible look-alike of the original print (this will be an edition containing both diplomatorical and practical editions of the versions of the piece) involves using the \tabFullNotation in tablaur and tweeking outlook, placement etc of stems and flags. The present problem is with dotted notes. With a (two note) chord I get as many augmention dots and mooving the around will move both of them. I need a way to supress the unnecessary extra dott (that goes into some wrry annoying and weird places when mooving the dott needed to its place just beneeth the flagg. Here's an example. (Also enclosed as file) A Jpg on wath it should look like is enclosed. One example of this probleme is in bar 2 in the tabalature in the examples. \version "2.20.0" \include "deutsch.ly" ficta = { \once \set suggestAccidentals =##t } rythmUp = { \once \override Dots.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 1) \once \override Stem.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 3) \once \override Flag.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 3) } rythmUpB = { \once \override Dots.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 1) \once \override Stem.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 2) \once \override Flag.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 2) } symbols = { \key f \major \time 2/2 \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4/2) \omit Clef \override Staff.TimeSignature.style = #'mensural \omit NoteHead \stemUp \autoBeamOff \override Flag.stencil = #old-straight-flag \override Stem.thickness = #1.0 \override Dots.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 1) \override Stem.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 1) \override Flag.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 1) 8*4 16*4 \rythmUp 16*4_. 8*4 8*4 8.*4 \rythmUpB 16*4_. a\3 >4*4 } voicePart = << \new Voice = "discantus" \relative c' { \set Staff.midiInstrument = "choir aahs" %\clef "petrucci-g" \clef "petrucci-c2" \override Staff.NoteHead.style = #'petrucci \override Staff.Rest.style = #'mensural \override Staff.TimeSignature.style = #'mensural \override Staff.KeySignature.glyph-name-alist = #alteration-mensural-glyph-name-alist \override Staff.Accidental.glyph-name-alist = #alteration-mensural-glyph-name-alist \override Staff.AccidentalSuggestion.glyph-name-alist = #alteration-mensural-glyph-name-alist %\transpose c b, { \key f \major \relative c' { f2 e4\melisma d4\melismaEnd c2 d2~ d2 \ficta cis4\melisma \ficta h4\melismaEnd \ficta cis!1 } } } \new Lyrics \lyricsto "discantus" { dis -- si chi miei di sian } >> \score { << \voicePart \new TabStaff \with { stringTunings = #`( ,(ly:make-pitch -2 5 NATURAL) ,(ly:make-pitch -1 1 NATURAL) ,(ly:make-pitch -1 4 NATURAL) ,(ly:make-pitch -1 6 NATURAL) ,(ly:make-pitch 0 2 NATURAL) ,(ly:make-pitch 0 5 NATURAL) ) \hide Clef } { \tabFullNotation \removeWithTag #'Sound \symbols } >> \layout {} } Yours Andreas Stenberg \version "2.20.0" \include "deutsch.ly" ficta = { \once \set suggestAccidentals =##t } rythmUp = { \once \override Dots.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 1) \once \override Stem.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 3) \once \override Flag.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 3) } rythmUpB = { \once \override Dots.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 1) \once \override Stem.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 2) \once \override Flag.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 2) } symbols = { \key f \major \time 2/2 \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 4/2) \omit Clef \override Staff.TimeSignature.style = #'mensural \omit NoteHead \stemUp \autoBeamOff \override Flag.stencil = #old-straight-flag \override Stem.thickness = #1.0 \override Dots.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 1) \override Stem.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 1) \override Flag.extra-offset = #'(0.0 . 1) 8*4 16*4 \rythmUp 16*4_. 8*4 8*4 8.*4 \rythmUpB 16*4_. 4*4 } voicePart = << \new Voice = "discantus" \relative c' { \set Staff.midiInstrument = "choir aahs" %\clef "petrucci-g" \clef "petrucci-c2" \override Staff.NoteHead.style = #'petrucci \override Staff.Rest.style = #'mensural \override Staff.TimeSignature.style = #'mensural \override Staff.KeySignature.glyph-name-alist = #alteration-mensural-glyph-name-alist \ov
Re: Different bartype in different staffs
HI Pierre! Yes, That works! Thanks! Andreas. Pierre Perol-Schneider kirjoitti 21-07-2020 klo 12:52: Hi Andreas, Try: \once\set Staff.whichBar = "||" See enclosed, HTH. Cheers, Pierre Le mar. 21 juil. 2020 à 11:37, Andreas Stenberg mailto:andreas.stenb...@pp.inet.fi>> a écrit : Hi! Working on an semi-diplomatoric edition on a late 16-th centhury piece I have run in to a problem with bars. This time I have opted , not to use the mensurestricht layout but, to use "!" bar as the default barline setting \set Timing.defaultBarType ="!" in \global. The original partbook-print does not, of course, have any regular baring. Double barlines (or some times singel prolonged barlines) are used to mark: Sections in the piece and or where a repeat should start. In the orginal these lines are not allways printed in the same place in the different parts. At times only one voice have such a marking. Where the doublebar doesn't concide with the regular editorial "!" bars this is not a problem. Inserting the \bar "||" in the voice where it is in the orig. and hiding it in other voices is a god work around hack. The problem comes when a \bar "||" in one only voice concides with the regular "!" baring in the other voices. I would like to have the doublebar show in one voice and the reguar "!" bars in the others without having to muck around with the timing (This is not a question about different timing / barlengts in different voices). Example: \version "2.20.0" \include "deutsch.ly <http://deutsch.ly>" %% Decima parte. globalX = { \override Staff.TimeSignature.style = #'mensural \key c \major \set Timing.defaultBarType ="!" } %% PDF p.73. sopranoOneX = \relative c' { \globalX \time 4/4 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \tempo 2 =120 % Music follows here. \slurDashed \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 8/4) d'1 e2 c2 h2. h4 h4 h4 c4 d4 e2. e4 d4 \once \override Staff.BarLine.transparent =##t g,4 a4 h4 %% need to get regular "!" bar here } %% PDF p.174. sopranoTwoX = \relative c' { \globalX \slurDashed % Music follows here. h'1 g2 a2 gis2. gis4 gis4 gis4 a4 h4 c2. c4 h4 \bar "||" h4 c4 d4 %% need to get regular "!" bar here } %% PDF p.278. bassX = \relative c { \clef "bass" \globalX \slurDashed % Music follows here. g1 c2 a2 e'2. e4 e4 e4 a4 g4 c,2. c4 g2*1/2 \once \override Staff.BarLine.transparent =##t s4 r2 \bar "||" %% hack to have no bar in midle of the "bar" and "||" bar at the end of it in this bar. } sopranoOneVerseX = \lyricmode { % Lyrics follow here. \set stanza = "10." Più lar -- ga~à po -- ve -- ri -- se Ro -- ma veg -- ge -- mi, Non cer -- chi~al } sopranoTwoVerseX = \lyricmode { % Lyrics follow here. \set stanza = "10." Più lar -- ga~à po -- ve -- ri -- se Ro -- ma veg -- ge -- mi, Non cer -- chi~al } bassVerseX = \lyricmode { % Lyrics follow here. \set stanza = "10." Più lar -- ga~à po -- ve -- ri -- se Ro -- ma veg -- ge -- mi, } choirPartX = \new ChoirStaff << \new Staff \with { midiInstrument = "choir aahs" instrumentName = "S. I" \consists "Ambitus_engraver" } { \sopranoOneX } \addlyrics { \sopranoOneVerseX } \new Staff \with { midiInstrument = "choir aahs" instrumentName = "S. II" \consists "Ambitus_engraver" } { \sopranoTwoX } \addlyrics { \sopranoTwoVerseX } \new Staff \with { midiInstrument = "choir aahs" instrumentName = "B." \consists "Ambitus_engraver" } { \bassX } \addlyrics { \bassVerseX } >> \score { << \choirPartX >> \layout { } \header { dedication = ##f title = ##f subtitle = ##f composer = ##f piece = "Decima parte." % Remove default LilyPond tagline tagline = ##f } } Ys Andreas Stenberg
Different bartype in different staffs
Hi! Working on an semi-diplomatoric edition on a late 16-th centhury piece I have run in to a problem with bars. This time I have opted , not to use the mensurestricht layout but, to use "!" bar as the default barline setting \set Timing.defaultBarType ="!" in \global. The original partbook-print does not, of course, have any regular baring. Double barlines (or some times singel prolonged barlines) are used to mark: Sections in the piece and or where a repeat should start. In the orginal these lines are not allways printed in the same place in the different parts. At times only one voice have such a marking. Where the doublebar doesn't concide with the regular editorial "!" bars this is not a problem. Inserting the \bar "||" in the voice where it is in the orig. and hiding it in other voices is a god work around hack. The problem comes when a \bar "||" in one only voice concides with the regular "!" baring in the other voices. I would like to have the doublebar show in one voice and the reguar "!" bars in the others without having to muck around with the timing (This is not a question about different timing / barlengts in different voices). Example: \version "2.20.0" \include "deutsch.ly" %% Decima parte. globalX = { \override Staff.TimeSignature.style = #'mensural \key c \major \set Timing.defaultBarType ="!" } %% PDF p.73. sopranoOneX = \relative c' { \globalX \time 4/4 \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t \tempo 2 =120 % Music follows here. \slurDashed \set Timing.measureLength = #(ly:make-moment 8/4) d'1 e2 c2 h2. h4 h4 h4 c4 d4 e2. e4 d4 \once \override Staff.BarLine.transparent =##t g,4 a4 h4 %% need to get regular "!" bar here } %% PDF p.174. sopranoTwoX = \relative c' { \globalX \slurDashed % Music follows here. h'1 g2 a2 gis2. gis4 gis4 gis4 a4 h4 c2. c4 h4 \bar "||" h4 c4 d4 %% need to get regular "!" bar here } %% PDF p.278. bassX = \relative c { \clef "bass" \globalX \slurDashed % Music follows here. g1 c2 a2 e'2. e4 e4 e4 a4 g4 c,2. c4 g2*1/2 \once \override Staff.BarLine.transparent =##t s4 r2 \bar "||" %% hack to have no bar in midle of the "bar" and "||" bar at the end of it in this bar. } sopranoOneVerseX = \lyricmode { % Lyrics follow here. \set stanza = "10." Più lar -- ga~à po -- ve -- ri -- se Ro -- ma veg -- ge -- mi, Non cer -- chi~al } sopranoTwoVerseX = \lyricmode { % Lyrics follow here. \set stanza = "10." Più lar -- ga~à po -- ve -- ri -- se Ro -- ma veg -- ge -- mi, Non cer -- chi~al } bassVerseX = \lyricmode { % Lyrics follow here. \set stanza = "10." Più lar -- ga~à po -- ve -- ri -- se Ro -- ma veg -- ge -- mi, } choirPartX = \new ChoirStaff << \new Staff \with { midiInstrument = "choir aahs" instrumentName = "S. I" \consists "Ambitus_engraver" } { \sopranoOneX } \addlyrics { \sopranoOneVerseX } \new Staff \with { midiInstrument = "choir aahs" instrumentName = "S. II" \consists "Ambitus_engraver" } { \sopranoTwoX } \addlyrics { \sopranoTwoVerseX } \new Staff \with { midiInstrument = "choir aahs" instrumentName = "B." \consists "Ambitus_engraver" } { \bassX } \addlyrics { \bassVerseX } >> \score { << \choirPartX >> \layout { } \header { dedication = ##f title = ##f subtitle = ##f composer = ##f piece = "Decima parte." % Remove default LilyPond tagline tagline = ##f } } Ys Andreas Stenberg
double time signature with single-digit
Hi! I need a way to modify the double time signature snippet in LSR to produce something where the numerical part looks like the single-digit time signature style: something lice C 3 with both mensural sign and number centered around the central noteline. Yours Andreas Stenberg ps. Would do this on my own but my "scheme" is rather rusty and rather short on time. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Double timesignature with single-digit
On 9/23/2015 10:28 AM, Andreas Stenberg [via Lilypond] wrote: >Hi! > >I need a way to modify the double time signature snippet in LSR to >produce something where the numerical part looks like the single-digit >time signature style: something lice >C 3 with both mensural sign and number centered around the central >noteline. How about this (based on LSR #725): % %% seehttp://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=725 %% see alsohttp://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/snippets/rhythms #(define ((double-time-signature glyph num) grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob #{ \markup { \line { %\fontsize #0 \musicglyph #glyph \lower #1 \number #num } } #})) \relative c' { \override Score.TimeSignature.stencil = #(double-time-signature "timesig.mensural44" "3") \time 3/4 c8 b c d e f g4 g g g4 a8 g f e d2. \bar "|." } % Adjust the \fontsize value to taste (0 means default size, BTW). Best, Abraham Thanks Abraham. This will work. Also when i mod it to a triple timesignature C 3 ) . (The ")" standing in for a inverted "C") #(define ((triple-time-signature glyph num glyph_b) grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob #{ \markup { \line { \fontsize #4 \musicglyph #glyph \lower #1 \number #num \fontsize #4 \musicglyph #glyph_b } } #})) \relative c' { \override Score.TimeSignature.stencil = #(triple-time-signature "timesig.mensural64" "3" "timesig.mensural68alt") \time 3/4 c8 b c d e f g4 g g g4 a8 g f e d2. \bar "|." } Andreas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: double time signature with single-digit
Simon Albrecht skrev 23-09-2015 21:29: On 23.09.2015 18:28, Andreas Stenberg wrote: Hi! I need a way to modify the double time signature snippet in LSR Which one? It’s hard to help without a starting point… Yours, Simon Hups! Sorry did forget to include this. #(define ((double-time-signature glyph a b) grob) (grob-interpret-markup grob (markup #:override '(baseline-skip . 2.5) #:number (#:line ((markup (#:fontsize 4 #:musicglyph glyph)) (#:fontsize -1 #:column (a b))) \relative c' { \override Score.TimeSignature.stencil = #(double-time-signature "timesig.mensural64" "3" "2") \time 3/4 c8 b c d e f g4 g g g4 a8 g f e d2. \bar "|." } Andreas ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Part of Key signature in bracket
Hi! I'm editing an 18-th century piece with several voices and "movements" where the source; an early print, has a printing error for the first movement of the pice. In all the Voices for that movement the key is given as G-major when it obviously should be D- major as in the rest of the movements. Is there any way to get a bracket on the c- sharp in the key signature for D - major? (I'v allready found the snippet for putting a bracket around the whole key signature and can use that as an emergency stoppgapp solution but i would like a neater more exakt notation showing exaktly what has ben editorialy added. ) Yours Andrea Stenberg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
custos at end of piece!
Hi! Is there any easy way in version 2.18.2 to get a custos at the end of the (visible) notation in mensural or petrucci voice context? Without twidling with forcing linebreak hiding staff notes other objects. That is; having to manufacture a fucking lot of code to add a rather small sign at end of the last line. I am curently working on an edition of some rounds/ canons by Th. Ravenscroft. Each round/ canon will be given in a) mensural (petrucci voice context) notation, b) a modern transcript with dashed barlines and c) a resolution score with parts to help the singers see where they are (should be) in relation to other voices. In the mensural rendering I would like to replicate a feature of the original print: At the end of each round the original print gives a snippet with the begining notes + words and the words ut supra = as above. This snipet ends with a custos showing the note that should follow if the snippet is read as the first few notes of the piece. Yours sincerely Andreas Stenberg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Alfabetto chordnames
Hi! Is there a way to get Lilypond 2.18 to generate chordnames in the 17 th century alfabetto notation. The notation consists of letters of the alfabet and some other symbols used as names for chords or more correctly specific fingerings on a specific fretted instrument. The letters/ symbols are random names of the fingerings and not related to the roots of chords (as in modern chord notation). For example g major chord on the baroque guittar is named A. ( Acctualy depending on the tuning used a b, d g d' g' or b d g d' g' in modern chordnames a G/B or G/D ). In a more developed wersion of the alfabetto the names consists of a letter name and a number the later signifying the frett on wich a given fingering is to be played. (As example in this style a G3 chord acctualy is a G major chord eg a F major chord ( c, f a c' f' on the third frett of the guittar. I do not know enough of Lilypond internals/ programing to get this kind of notation. Yours sincerely Andreas Stenberg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Change Lyrics fontsize globaly
Hi! Is there a easy way to change the fontsize of lyrics globaly. I'm working on projects with several files which are included in the final master file/ document and fidling around with fontsize comads for every single lyrics in every single file is starting to get bothersome. I dont know enough of the internals and i haven't the time to figure out hove to do this my self as I, as parttime leader of a church choire in midst of a proces of providing new translations of an extensiv text material, have dead lines every other week. The Lyrics fontsize shuold have to be changed globaly that is in the \paper block in the master file producing the final document. I would be thank full to get something I quickly can copypaste into the last batch as I have a deadline looming over my shoulder and breathing down my neck about to bite me werry sn. Yours Andreas Stenberg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Bertalan Fodor LilyPondTool 2.14.9 release (the last for the foreseeable, future)
Dear Mr. Fodor I want to thank You for Your great work with the jEdit Lilypond tool. Although I have moov'd on to use Frescobaldi as my front end I used Your Lilytool extensively for several years both professionally as a teacher of music and for more or less serious works of love: transcribing early music, composing, editing Orthodox polyphonic chant etc.. Your tool was the only really functionable front end for a windows user before Frescobaldi got their windows version running. The Lilytool and its jEdit underlying editor still has many features that work better than Frescobaldi amongst others the greater possibility make your own plugs on the plug (had a project running consisting of making a app to feed in lyrics to different model melodies in Russian orthodox chant in multiple voices. It sadly potter'd out due to the usual: not time enough.) My switch was mainly because of a more reliable point and click, midi player and a more functional code completion in Fresco. Your Wizards have in my opinion a better functionality than the fresco wizards as does the way to make and include your own code snippets. I'm sad to hear that the lilytool era now seems to go the way of the world. My best wishes to You and a lot of thanks from. Andreas Stenberg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Disable point and click for part of files in batch
Hi! I'm working on a projekt more or less basede on the struktures and models in the LSR snippet on anglican chant. My projekt is to create a set of linked source- files and template- files to set texts for Orthodox services (in Finish) to the fourpart melodic formulas (eight tones with formulas for several different types of chant in each) used in the Orthodox church in Finland. The source- files will contain the musical material that is variables with the melodiclines of each modelphrase in the different types of chant (and of course for all the parts in the four part setting). The template files there will hold the score- block where the user enters these variables in the order of phrase cyckle for each type of chant. The templates will also hold variables where the user can enter the lyrics for each phrase. The musical material will be imported by use of the \include {/filename./ly} command. I would like to have point and click to the template- files only and point and click dissabled to the source- files. The templates (or more correctly copys of the templates) are something of a user interface for the set of files. Adding a \pointAndClickOff command to the source- file at the begining of the file doesn't work as it will dissable point and click to the temlate file also. The structure for a pair of files (source and template) is something like this _ Source- File _%% variables for phrases sopA = { the inital pattern of the phrase ... %% the music to the A phrase the recitating note usualy a breve note the finalis pattern of the phrase } sopB = ... the music for the second phrase of the sopranopart et.c. et.c et.c bassA = ... the music for the first phrase of the Basspart bassB = ... the music of the second phrase of the Basspart _Template in separate Template file_ \include source.ly %% variables for the lyrics of each phrase verseA = \lyricmode {%% the lyrics of the A phrase hypenated words to initial pattern of phrase \markup { the words Many of them for the recitation note} hypenated words to the finalis patern of the phrase. } verseB = \lyricmode the lyric for the second phrase et.c. et.c. \score { \new Choirstaff \new Staff = women \context Voice = soprano { \sopA \sopB et.c. \sopA et.c. } \context Voice = alto et. c. et.c \context Lyrics = sopranol \lyristo soprano { \verseA \verseB et.c. \verseAb et.c. } \new Staff = men \context Voice tenor { et.c. } \context Voice basso { \bassA \bassB et.c. \bassA et.c. } \layout { } %% headers and stuff } The code/ semicode above is a draft only. Point and click would be needed to template file as the user have to manipulate the lyrics in the variables for the lyric phrases to get lyrics placed correctly to the melodic formulas of each phrase as the paterns make a differense between notes for accented sylables and un accented and the texts are not metrical poetry. As the melodic formulas for each phrase are reused in extenso ( apart from some variations manipulated by use of Tags) the user dosb't have to and shouldn't manipulate the source files especialy as the ide of the formulas are tho be able to use the same source for several different texts. Yours Andreas Stenberg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
jEdit Lilytool: Questions midi tool broken? autocomplet?
Hi! I'll start this by once again thanking the lilypond team for a great program and thanking Bertran co for the work on jEdit Lilytool. Some time ago i did update to the new version of lilytool and lilypond 2.12. Some things are just great but: Have anybody found a solution to the problem with the autocomplete? (eg. jEdit will, when autocomplet is enabled, just inser the first variable in my file. I know there have been some diskussion on here but I didn't find any solution. As for now I have to have autocomplete dissabled and use what is in my own not always reliable head or try to find what I can't remember in the documentation.) My second problem is recent: At first the midi-player in lilytool did work ok but now all I'll get is an error in loading midifile- message. Did I break something trying to get the autocomplete to work? Reinstalling lilytool does not seem to cange this problem so for now I'm back to my pre lilytool/ jEdit days keeping a filebrowsing window open and listning to midi output on windows media player. I'm (regretably) on windows vista with a swedish keyboard. (So a change to Frescobaldi is out of question. (I did try that on my old computer on Xubuntu. works as good as the jEdit lilytool did before updating and getting all these troubles. But working on that machine is a pain as everything is realy slow as the proccesor memory resources are to low. Im also back to the 2.10 lilypond on that one all the new features in 2.12 are gone.) Yours sincerely Andreas Stenberg ups. Didn't think so I did mail this one from my new e-mail and did get a bounce. D.s. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Hi someting Wicked this way came: problems with fonts on Easy lilypond 2.10.33?
Hi! Did get a new computer last week and finaly got it in more or less working order. Trouble is I'm now on Windows Wista and did not get the normal down load of Lilypond and jEdit with Lilytool to work as it should. Did try the Easy lilypond package and most things are working (but not all, most are jEdit problems I think). The wicked thing is: The text font I get as default (headers, markup and lyrics) when processing is a rather ugly sans - type font (looking a lot like some Arial version). Changing fonts any of the normal ways works ok so no problem. But if I chose _Times New Roman_ i get some thing looking like an capital I over a dot in place of capital N. This is most anoying an weird. Can't figur if the problem is on my computer, in the interplay between jEdit and Lily or if there is somthing wrong with the pacage i downloaded. Is This an Easylily problem or a Wista problem or what? Should I have to try to get it all the normal eg. Downloading Lilypond, jEdit etc. separately and troubling my self through the usual configuration disasters? Andreas Stenberg ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user