from:"Dmytro O. Redchuk"

2017-03-28 18:16 GMT+03:00 David Wright <lily...@lionunicorn.co.uk>:
> because it doesn't handle whole-measure rests...or does it now?
No, it doesn't, indeed.

> I have come across this reference, which claims to handle them,
> but I have yet to try it out:
>
> https://github.com/wbsoft/lilymusic/blob/master/include/merge-rests.ily
Oh, thank you, I have to try it too :)

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Re: Style questions

2017-03-28 18:16 GMT+03:00 David Wright <lily...@lionunicorn.co.uk>:
>> Having abovementioned LSR snippet: here in Ukraine quarter rests in
>> the first measure should be merged, but in the second one upper voice
>> hsould be notated as r4 r e g and two quarter rests should not be
>> merged.
>
> Am I looking at the same image? I'm struggling to find anything
> that could be r4 r4 e4 g4 within it.
No, I mentioned the snippet image in LSR:
http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 --- just to note that local
rules may differ.

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Re: Style questions

2017-03-28 16:50 GMT+03:00 Guy Stalnaker <jimmyg...@gmail.com>:
> Oh, my! This is brilliant! I write mostly choral music and this will be
> invaluable! Much thanks.
Well, when you need two rests to remain separated, you can put in
either voice before that rest:

\once \override Staff.RestCollision.positioning-done = ##t

>
> Guy
>
> Guy Stalnaker
> jimmyg...@gmail.com

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Re: Style questions

Regarding the first question: Lilypond can merge rests "automagically"
--- http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=336 --- but it may depend on
local rules.

Having abovementioned LSR snippet: here in Ukraine quarter rests in
the first measure should be merged, but in the second one upper voice
hsould be notated as r4 r e g and two quarter rests should not be
merged.

2017-03-28 12:09 GMT+03:00 Menu Jacques <imj-...@bluewin.ch>:
> Hello folks,
>
> Two questions about the display style for Recordare's Binchois20.xml file:
>
> - should there be only one set of quarter rests under (CT.) in the lower
> staff, and if so, how can that be done (i.e. to « mask » a rest in a voice
> if there’s already one at the same point in another voice in the same
> staff)? Finale does so;
>
> - would it be better to swap voices for the f and a quarter notes in the
> last measure (Finale does so too). I’m no keyboard player unfortunately, and
> I guess that players don’t take voices numbers into account as we do when
> using Lilypond or other scoring software.
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> JM
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Re: (fwd)

2017-03-21 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

2017-03-21 9:40 GMT+02:00 Martin Tarenskeen <m.tarensk...@zonnet.nl>:
> Thanks. That's a good start. I have tried it, and it works. But yes, it
> looks ugly :-)
>
> I am trying to put this idea in a working bash or python script now.
> I am not really a virtuoso with grep and regular expressions, but I guess I
> could use that to extract the stringvalue after the "id": field from the
> response I am getting from the first line

Try jq:

https://stedolan.github.io/jq/

$ curl -X POST -H "Content-Type:application/json" \
   
https://7icpm9qr6a.execute-api.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/prod/prepare_preview/stable
\
   -d '{"code": "% LilyBin\n\\score{\n\t{\n\t\t\\repeat unfold 120 {
c4. d e f }\n\t}\n\n\t\\layout{}\n\t\\midi{}\n}\n"}' \
   2>/dev/null | jq '.id'
"1490082695988-7485-450035692-o06aeu4ly7dgqfr"

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Re: Scheme finction fo get markup from scheme list of strings?

2017-03-06 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

2017-03-06 17:34 GMT+02:00 Jeffery Shivers <jefferyshiv...@gmail.com>:
> or even the latter part as:
>
> #(all-the-markup-lists-in-scheme verses)
Yes, like this.

Having defined N verses --- i wishto be able to decide how to display them.

One verse should be centered in \fill-line, two verses should be
placed in one \fill-line as a columns; may be some additional
"incapsulations" for verse number in column near to verse's column...

Actually i have a friend of mine who helps to type scores without any
knowledge of lilypond file structure --- i have provided her with a
template, and she simply puts voice notation inside voice files
(everything inside \relative c' { ... } or like that). [For some
reasons] she will not learn markup commands, but i really need her
help and she really wants to help :)

And she typed *a lot* (i could provide a link to site).

Regarding "what i have tried" --- to learn how to loop over lists and
create markups i've tried something like this:

; for a case when "verseList" is a list of string:
#(define (display-verses verses)
   (if (not (null? verses))
   (begin
(markup (car verses))
(display-verses (cdr verses)

\markuplist {
  #(display-verses verseList)
}

This throws "not a markup" --- and i guess i understand why (it should
be a markup function).

Then i've tried to create a markup function like this one, but it can
not be recursive (display-verses is undefined inside display-verses).

So, i've asked for help.

Probably, i should look iside some lilypond's .scm to get some lighting.

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Re: Scheme finction fo get markup from scheme list of strings?

2017-03-06 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

2017-03-06 15:16 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org>:
> I may be missing the point, but what's wrong with
Thank you, David, nothing wrong.

Sorry, i was unclear.

Actually i would like to have list of lists (list of verses) and place
those verses in some way depending of other settings.

I've tried to define markup command, but it can not be recursive.

I've tried to call #{ \markup ... #} from withing scheme, but got
empty document or "not a markup" error.

So, i've tried some wrong ways and now i would like to know what i
should try instead .)

What to try to have a (scheme? lilypond+scheme?) function to loop over
list of "verses" and output some "predefined" markup.

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Scheme finction fo get markup from scheme list of strings?

2017-03-06 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

Hello list,

let's say I have the following list:

#(define verse '(
"If you can keep your head when all about you"
"Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,"
"If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,"
"But make allowance for their doubting too"
; ... etc
))

I would like to write a function to get the following markup for every
item in the list:

\line {
  \column {
"If you can keep your head when all about you"
  }
}
% etc...

Then I would feed it to \markuplist, I guess.

Please, from where would I start? --- feeling lost.

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Re: ANN: Frescobaldi 1.9.1 (alpha)

2011-10-12 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Tue 11 Oct 2011, 14:57 Wilbert Berendsen wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 a new alpha release of Frescobaldi 2.0 is available.
 
 https://github.com/wbsoft/frescobaldi (click Download)
Thank you very much, indeed, Frescobaldi is great.

I would love to test it on Windows (for my colleague who uses windows); but
since i'm a linux user -- yes, it's funny -- i don't know where to start!-)

I am planning to test it in virtualbox.

What i need? Will frescobaldi work with python shipped with lilypond?

http://qt.nokia.com/downloads/ shows too much; will be enough to get and
install http://code.google.com/p/qt-windows-binaries/ ?

Thank you. Sorry for being boring.

 Please report issues and requests to the Frescobaldi mailing
 list or the GitHub issue tracker.
I guess I'll do .)

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Re: Including Lilypond files (Was: \partial only on first measure?)

On Wed 28 Sep 2011, 11:17 Alberto Simões wrote:
 
 
 On 28/09/2011 10:49, Urs Liska wrote:
 Is there any way to write some kind of the equivalent to the latex
 .sty file, where I can define these files? Or is it just a standard
 .ly file, \include'd?
 
 If so, is there any INCLUDEPATH I can set, so I do not need to copy it
 for each music I use?
 
 Put this function in a standard .ly file (some prefer to name these
 include files .ily) and include it.
 You can run lilypond with the -dinclude option and specify includepaths
 where you can store your library.
 
 Yes, I can also use -I, it seems. But defining an environment
 variable would make it a lot cleaner  :)
Can you make an alias?

I guess it's possible in bash (don't know about your system):
alias lilypond='lilypond -Ifoo.lyi'

However, i have prepared some templates for myself; every one contains
`\include macro.lyi` within. I'd say it's better that making an alias.

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Re: Including Lilypond files (Was: \partial only on first measure?)

On Wed 28 Sep 2011, 11:51 Alberto Simões wrote:
 Yes, I can also use -I, it seems. But defining an environment
 variable would make it a lot cleaner  :)
 Can you make an alias?
 
 I guess it's possible in bash (don't know about your system):
 alias lilypond='lilypond -Ifoo.lyi'
 
 However, i have prepared some templates for myself; every one contains
 `\include macro.lyi` within. I'd say it's better that making an alias.
 Note that -I is for search path, for not a specific file.
Yes, sorry .)

 So, I can add, indeed,
 
 alias lilypond='lilypond -I$HOME/lib/lilypond'
 
 but I would still prefer,
 
 export LILY_PATH=$HOME/lib/lilypond
 
 :)
Yes, it's clear.

But since lilypond (in my system) is a script, i can easily edit it and add
as many -Ipath as i need.

And then i can include macro.lyi, which will be found somewhere.

Not sure that i understood your requirement right though.

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Re: How to get Timing.measureLength from within Scheme?

On Wed 28 Sep 2011, 15:49 Alberto Simões wrote:
 Hello
 
 I am trying to save Timing.measureLength in a little music function,
 but I am unable to find examples in the web of how to get that value
 (only how to set).
 
 My try (ok, most of the code was suggested by Jan-Peter), is something like:
 
 partialInline = #(define-music-function (parser location nom den
 mus)(integer? integer? ly:music?)
   #{
 #(def tmp (get Timing.measureLength))
 $mus
 \set Timing.measureLength = tmp
 #})
 
 
 but, how to write the (get ..) portion?
I am sorry, why not to use documented Score.measurePosition?

%8---
partialInline =
 #(define-music-function (parser location nom den mus)
  (integer? integer? ly:music?)
  #{
\set Score.measurePosition = #(ly:make-moment $nom $den)
$mus
  #})

\relative c'' {
  c2 c
  \partialInline #-1 #4 { c4 }
  c1
}
%8---

Really sorry, i could miss-n-mess something.

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Re: How to get Timing.measureLength from within Scheme?

On Wed 28 Sep 2011, 16:09 Alberto Simões wrote:
 On 28/09/2011 16:04, Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
 I am sorry, why not to use documented Score.measurePosition?
Sorry, i meant suggested by docs .)

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Bug Squad: 40-minute-a-week volunteer needed

Hi guys,

In order to respond to bug reports in a prompt and efficient manner, we are
seeking 1 person who is willing to work for 20 minutes, two times a week.
Ideally this would be:
  20 minutes on Wednesday
  20 minutes on Saturday
but if necessary we could reshuffle the days.

This job is strictly limited to two 20-minute periods -- spending more time is
neither required nor desired.


Duties are listed here and on additional pages linked from here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/bug-squad-setup

If you volunteer, you are not expected to read any material or do any setup
ahead of time; we expect you to spend the first two or three 20-minute periods
reading the instructions about what to do.

If you volunteer, feel free to ask me anything regarding bug squad setup or
squad member duties.


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Re: Bug Squad: 40-minute-a-week volunteer needed

У ср., 28-го вер. 2011, о 11:38 Brett McCoy писали:
I'd love to help out. Lilypond is an essential part of my life these days.
Great, thank you!

So, you'll be scheduled for 20 minutes on Wednesday and 20 minutes on
Saturday; please, let me know when you're ready; please, ask me anything if
necessary.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Dmytro O. Redchuk
brownian@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys,

In order to respond to bug reports in a prompt and efficient manner, we are
seeking 1 person who is willing to work for 20 minutes, two times a week.
Ideally this would be:
20 minutes on Wednesday
20 minutes on Saturday
but if necessary we could reshuffle the days.

This job is strictly limited to two 20-minute periods -- spending more time
is
neither required nor desired.

Duties are listed here and on additional pages linked from here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/bug-squad-setup

If you volunteer, you are not expected to read any material or do any setup
ahead of time; we expect you to spend the first two or three 20-minute
periods
reading the instructions about what to do.

If you volunteer, feel free to ask me anything regarding bug squad setup or
squad member duties.

ps. This is a great way to learn, to get involved, to help the project .)

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Re: placement sostenuto

2011-09-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Fri 23 Sep 2011, 09:07 David Nalesnik wrote:
 I was experimenting with this approach, but 'padding doesn't seem to respond
 when set to a procedure.  In the following snippet, the first override
 works, the second doesn't.  Am I missing something?
 
  \version 2.14.2
 
 {
   \once \override Script #'Y-offset = #(lambda (grob) -3)
   c''1_-
   \once \override Script #'padding = #(lambda (grob) 3)
   c''1_-
 }
Yes, really .(

Who knows wether it's intentional or it's a bug.

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Re: preprocessing an included file with system command

2011-09-25 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Sat 24 Sep 2011, 23:52 Michael Ellis wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Graham Percival
  or m4 or python, I'd do this:
  # mylily.sh
  cp $1 /tmp
  sed '...' /tmp/$1  /tmp/$1-processed.ly
  lilypond /tmp/$1-processed.ly
  mv /tmp/$1-processed.ly .
Often it can be done with something like this (within bash script;
windows equivalent is also quite possible):

  sed '...'  $1 | lilypond -o ${1%%.ly} -

 I normally do my LilyPond work with LilyPondTool and have grown quite
 accustomed to its conveniences.   Using a wrapper script would mean
 having to alter my LilyPondTool options to specify the wrapper script
 instead of invoking LilyPond directly -- but I often  use LilyPond for
 tasks other than audio transcriptions and don't want to have to keep
 changing my LilyPondTool options.
I would, probably, try to write shell script, which takes $PPID and checks if
the parent is LilypondTool or like that. Not tested .)

Anyway, your question is still interesting. I can't help here, sorry.

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Re: placement sostenuto

2011-09-23 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Fri 23 Sep 2011, 13:48 David Kastrup wrote:
 ten = -\tweak #'padding #.75 --
 
 { c''1\ten }
Great, even { c''1^\ten } and { c''1_\ten } do work,
thanks .)

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Re: placement sostenuto

2011-09-23 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Fri 23 Sep 2011, 10:30 luis jure wrote:
 i see that this override changes the placement of all the objects
 belonging to Script, including articulation marks like accent and the
 rest. anyway, i prefer to use a global \override in my template, instead
 of individual tweaks. 
 
 i understand one cannot adjust with \override the properties of individual
 objects belonging to script?
If i understtod your right, you'd like to \override something for, let's say,
tenuto only. I believe it's possible; i would start with this approach:

%-
\displayMusic { c''1-- }
%-

Compiling this we can see in log/terminal:

%-
(make-music
  'SequentialMusic
  'elements
  (list (make-music
  'EventChord
  'elements
  (list (make-music
  'NoteEvent
  'duration
  (ly:make-duration 0 0 1 1)
  'pitch
  (ly:make-pitch 1 0 0))
(make-music
  'ArticulationEvent
  'articulation-type
  tenuto)
%-

So, this 'ArticulationEvent has an 'articulation-type = tenuto.

As we can use a function for \override:
   \override Script #'padding = #(padding-for-tenuto)
 --- we can imagine a function which takes a grob as an argument and checks if
an articulation is tenuto and returns .75 if it is, or default value
otherwise.

So, what you need is posible, if it's possible to get 'articulation-type from
grob (which would be passed to our function as an argument). And if it is
possible to return default value for any other but tenuto.

To be honest, i don't know if it's possible .)

;; If it was --- would be better to modify our function
;; to accept default value for tenuto:
   \override Script #'padding = #(padding-for-tenuto .75)
;;;

Actually i would love to see somebody really knowledgeable helping you .)

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Re: voice instantiation syntax (was Re: Lilypond Lobbying)

2011-08-30 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Mon 29 Aug 2011, 10:02 Tim Reeves wrote:
 How do you like syntax like this:
  e1 \ #0.25 \f #0.5 \ f2 \! #0.5
 
 Well, it's starting to to look too much like perl, to my non-programmer 
 eyes. 
That's why I like \{delay=4} , \{delay=4,length=7*8} etc :
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-08/msg00553.html

I am *not sure* that this is much better than macrame with spacing rests, but
probably it is.

 That is to say, I don't particularly like it, at first glance. Although, 
 maybe, if it makes sense, I  could get used to it.

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Re: Shifting hairpins' starting/ending points etc [was: Re: Lilypond lobbying?]

2011-08-30 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Mon 29 Aug 2011, 13:10 David Kastrup wrote:
 Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.com writes:
 
  On Sun 28 Aug 2011, 11:21 Janek Warchoł wrote:
  2011/8/26 Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.com:
   On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 13:54 David Kastrup wrote:
   So maybe the spacer rest terminology is not doing anybody a favor.
  
   Would you have felt more comfortable if my example had used \skip
   instead of spacer rests?
   No, not sure. Why music should contain any skips to be typeset 
   nicely?
Again -- why? Why skips or spacing rests to shift hairpin right?

   I wanted to say, that, very probably, \{...} would be really great
   (to shift starting point right). And that spacers are, as for me, a bit
   innatural.
Well, { c''{offset=XX} } would be nice... probably... too. I don't know.

 Spoken differently: for a new person who knows nothing about the syntax,
 knowing nothing about the syntax is not a desirable state to remain in.
Yes. I agree with you.

I just wanted to say that I like \{...} more than skips and spacers.
And I believe it's a matter of taste.

Am I wrong? -- very probably. I don't know.

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Re: lilypond-book download

2011-08-30 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Mon 29 Aug 2011, 11:43 Pablo Zumarán wrote:
 
 I already have lilypond in my Ubuntu. What must I download so that I can use
 lilypond-book?
You need to have latex (texlive-latex-base at least) installed.

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Shifting hairpins' starting/ending points etc [was: Re: Lilypond lobbying?]

2011-08-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Sun 28 Aug 2011, 11:21 Janek Warchoł wrote:
 2011/8/26 Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.com:
  On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 13:54 David Kastrup wrote:
  So maybe the spacer rest terminology is not doing anybody a favor.
 
  Would you have felt more comfortable if my example had used \skip
  instead of spacer rests?
  No, not sure. Why music should contain any skips to be typeset nicely?
 
  Well, really, excuse me :-)
 
  I wanted to say, that, very probably, \{...} would be really great
  (to shift starting point right). And that spacers are, as for me, a bit
  innatural.
 
 How do you like syntax like this:
 e1 \ #0.25 \f #0.5 \ f2 \! #0.5
 which would mean this
 \new Voice  { e1 f2 } {s4 s4 \ s2 \f \ s4 s4 \! } 
 ?
I would say, that for a new person who knows nothing about the syntax, the
former variant offers much less conventions to learn then the latter.

As for me, sorry.

 Some of your concerns are already on my to-do list, but they are
 waiting for GLISS.
They're not mine, surely,
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-08/msg00553.html :-)

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Re: dynamics placing (was Re: Lilypond lobbying?)

2011-08-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Mon 29 Aug 2011, 18:47 Frederick Dennis wrote:
   How do you like syntax like this:
   e1 \ #0.25 \f #0.5 \ f2 \! #0.5
   which would mean this
*would* mean...

   \new Voice  { e1 f2 } {s4 s4 \ s2 \f \ s4 s4 \! } 
 
 Dear All,
 I've tried
 
 e1 \ #0.25 \f #0.5 \ f2 \! #0.5
That were just thoughts.

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Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Thu 25 Aug 2011, 23:51 David Kastrup wrote:
 c1*1/4 s1*3/4\p
 
 c1*1/4 s1*3/4\
 
 c1*1/4 s1*5/8\ s1*1/8\!
I am not a composer at all, but... is this a musical approach?

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Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 10:28 David Kastrup wrote:
 Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.com writes:
  I am not a composer at all, but... is this a musical approach?
 
 It's pretty much along the lines of the given verbal description.  You
 could also do something like
 
  c1 { s4\ s2\! s4 } 
Yes, I know ,)

You can do this in a separate voice and then filter parts (to clean midi
output of those extra voices) from command line with some switches, or do it
whith tags etc-etc-etc.

That's very nice =:О]

And easy to use.

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Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Fri 26 Aug 2011, 11:12 David Kastrup wrote:
  You can do this in a separate voice
 
 If you think this is a separate voice
No, I wrote you can do it in a separate voice. Also.

Both ways, as for me, are not very elegant.

I can be wrong, sorry for the noise.

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Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-18 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Thu 18 Aug 2011, 08:32 Francois Planiol wrote:
 - They are totally stupid and

On Thu 18 Aug 2011, 09:49 Francois Planiol wrote:
 So stupid guys

:-)

ps. Not too constructive criticism, I'd say.

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Re: Lilypond lobbying?

2011-08-18 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Thu 18 Aug 2011, 17:42 Robert Schmaus wrote:
 I even feel I have to come to those guys' defence - zero of my
 professional as well as non-professional musical friends knew (of)
 LilyPond before I told them, and I don't think many of them will use it
Yes, many of people around me are *very* professional in their fields
(composers, musicians, choir-meisters, specialists in music's history
etc-etc); however, they've never heard about lilypond before I told them, and
they'd never use it after I told...

Probably, because of some/many of them are 60 and above, who knows... Anyway,
I would never say they are stupid.

I have prepared (and successfully published) some books with LaTeX (some of
them with lilypond-engraved scores, one is a score book, 500+ pages of scores,
illustrated a lot, thanks to LaTeX, again) -- but when I am asked why latex?
why lilypond? I say that:
  - I like lilypond very much!!!
  - it's far more convenient for me to use plain text files (and
lilypond-book, and make, and tools like inkscape with cmdline capabilities
etc-etc-etc);
  - *I could not use Finale/InDesign for that at all*, because I am too stupid
to use so complicated tools... :O)

Yes! Really -- I could not use that tools at all. Well, I guess I could, but
why work so hard? -- I bet they, those people around me, think the same about
me: why work so hard?..


My school teacher, who taught me physics, said that if you don't understand
that handbook, it very probably just means that that handbook author's
gyrus of the brain are crinkled in another direction than yours.



On Thu 18 Aug 2011, 11:03 Francois Planiol wrote:
 Dear Dmytro,
 
 I was 20 y in Germany, a highly developped land. Now in Colombia, a
 want-to-emerge third-world-land. I see everywhere the same pattern
 (France too):
 - Buy, if this costs a lot this will be better,
[...]

 2011/8/18, Dmytro O. Redchuk brownian@gmail.com:
  :-)
 
  ps. Not too constructive criticism, I'd say.
I wanted to say that every critisicm can be either constructive or
destructive (it can not be neutral).

It should be constructive, I'd say.

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Re: Slurs and PhrasingSlurs with simultaneous start or end

2011-07-28 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Thu 28 Jul 2011, 13:49 Nick Payne wrote:
 The automatic positioning of Slurs and PhrasingSlurs that both
 either start or finish on the same note is not very good. See below.
 Commercial scores that I have where this happens position the two
 slurs so that they don't intersect or touch, as in the second bar
 where the PhrasingSlur has been tweaked so that it doesn't intersect
 the slur:
I guess this is 304:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=304

And may be related to:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=163

 \version 2.14.0
 
 offsetPhrasingSlurPos =
   #(define-music-function (parser location offsets) (pair?)
 #{
\once \override PhrasingSlur #'positions = #(lambda (grob)
  `(,(+ (car $offsets) (cdar
 (ly:phrasingslur::calc-control-points grob))) .
,(+ (cdr $offsets) (cdr (cadddr
 (ly:phrasingslur::calc-control-points grob))
 #})
 
 \relative c'' {
 \time 3/4
 \slurDashed
 c16\(( d) e f g8\) c,8 d16\(( c) b a\)
 \offsetPhrasingSlurPos #'(0.3 . 0) c16\(( d) e f g8\) c,8
 \offsetPhrasingSlurPos #'(0.3 . 0) d16\(( c) b a\)
 }
 
 
 Nick

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Re: Basic function question

2011-07-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Tue 26 Jul 2011, 10:14 Urs Liska wrote:
 Hello list members,
 
 after fiddling around too long and getting lost with the basics, I
 decided to ask my question here.
 I know it's basic, and I wonder why I get stuck this way, but
 obviously I'm confused and unable to find the right place in the
 docs.
 
 I want to write a function instr to produce formatted markup that
 I can use like
 
 { c d e f^\instr Vl. }
 
 which should be translated to (e.g.)
 
 { c d e f^\markup \bold \italic \huge { Vl. } }
I guess you can write markup function and then use it like this:

  { c d e f^\markup\instr Vl. }

So (if so), you need to define markup function.

#(define-markup-command (instr layout props what) (markup?)
  (interpret-markup layout props
(markup #:bold #:italic #:huge what)))

(not tested thougth).

 Unfortunately I seem absolutely unable to find out how to define the
 function so I can attach it to the note like in the example.
 
 Hopefully someone can either give me a working example or point me
 to the exact location in the docs where I can fully understand this
 issue.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Urs

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Re: Basic function question

2011-07-26 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Tue 26 Jul 2011, 11:39 Urs Liska wrote:
 Am 26.07.2011 11:28, schrieb Dmytro O. Redchuk:
 So (if so), you need to define markup function.
 
 #(define-markup-command (instr layout props what) (markup?)
(interpret-markup layout props
  (markup #:bold #:italic #:huge what)))
 
 (not tested thougth).
 
 Well this works. This is a solution I had also found in the docs.
 
 So it seems it is not possible to _use_ functions the way I had wanted?
 I have always either to use a markup function (and write \markup)
 or to first write the function name and provide the note as an argument.
 Is that correct?
Actually I don't know why _markup function_ behaves like this.

Docs*) says:

%8--
The markup macro builds markup expressions in Scheme while providing a
LilyPond-like syntax. For example,

(markup #:column (#:line (#:bold #:italic hello #:raise 0.4 world)
  #:larger #:line (foo bar baz)))

is equivalent to:

\markup \column { \line { \bold \italic hello \raise #0.4 world }
  \larger \line { foo bar baz } }
%8--

But is that really equivalent? Why markup function should (shouldn't it?) be
preceeded with \markup ?

I don't know actually. Sorry.

_
 * 
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/extending/markup-construction-in-scheme

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Re: Issue 1724 - 620 : workaround?

2011-07-25 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Mon 25 Jul 2011, 09:21 Xavier Scheuer wrote:
 On 24 July 2011 21:46, Xavier Scheuer x.sche...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Thanks Neil!
 
  It works great.  I'll use it as a workaround until Mike's fix is OK and
  pushed.  Thank you Mike too.  Good luck.
 
 I did not notice first but Neil's workaround produces a strange message
 in the console when compiling:
That was
  (display (ly:grob-parent g X))
I guess.

You can comment it out.


 […]
 Interpreting music... #Grob DynamicText ()[8]#Grob PaperColumn
 #Grob PaperColumn ()#Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn
 ()#Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn
 ()#Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn [16]()#Grob PaperColumn
 #Grob PaperColumn ()#Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn #Grob
 PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn [24]#Grob
 PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn ()#Grob
 PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn ()#Grob PaperColumn #Grob
 PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn ()[32]#Grob DynamicText ()#Grob
 DynamicText ()[40]#Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn ()#Grob
 PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn #Grob
 PaperColumn ()[48]#Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn ()#Grob
 PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn ()#Grob PaperColumn #Grob
 PaperColumn ()#Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn ()[56]#Grob
 PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn #Grob
 PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn ()#Grob PaperColumn #Grob
 PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn #Grob PaperColumn [64]()#Grob
 DynamicText ()#Grob DynamicText ()[72]#Grob PaperColumn #Grob
 PaperColumn ()
 Preprocessing graphical objects...
 […]
 
 This has no bad consequences and as I said the result is good.
 
 Cheers,
 Xavier
 
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Re: rendering png without page

2011-07-20 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Tue 19 Jul 2011, 15:40 Phil Holmes wrote:
 Dmytro developed the following script for Ubuntu:
 
 #!/bin/bash
 #
 #
Here is the same script for Windows, btw:
https://raw.github.com/gperciva/lilypond-extra/master/bug-squad/trimtagline.bat

 ly=${1:?Usage: $0 test[.ly]}
 
 # strip extension, if any:
 lynoext=${ly%%.ly}
 
 # process test file:
 echo \\header { tagline = ##f } | lilypond -dinclude-settings=- --png $ly
 
 # trim PNG:
 convert ${lynoext}.png -trim ${lynoext}-trim.png
 
 # do we want to overwrite original PNG?
 # mv ${lynoext}-trim.png ${lynoext}.png
 
 
 This assumes you have imagemagick installed.

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Re: Help understanding print problem

2011-07-20 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Tue 19 Jul 2011, 16:15 Laura Conrad wrote:
 My guess is that this is not a lilypond bug, but there might be someone
 here who could shed light on how to report it, or better ways to work
 around it.
 
 I have a PDF file
 http://serpentpublications.org/music/dewilde/amours/allparts.pdf,
 produced by lilypond-book with parts and score for a piece.  It looks as
Did you produce it with lilypond-book -- ps2pdf or with lilypond-book --pdf ?

My guess is that ps2pdf may behave wrongly here. However, since you can print
single score with no errors, I may be wrong.

You can try both ways, thought.

 I expect in xpdf.  For playing with my group, I need lots of copies of
 the parts, but only one of the score, so I printed out the parts with
 the options to xpdf which caused pages 1-6 to print out single-sided
Did you print via lpr -oDuplex=DuplexNoTumble -#several_times ? Or other
program/options?

I am not sure that I can be helpful here. However, who knows.

Btw, I would also try to produce the same one -- several times with pdfpages
and then try to print.

 several times.  Then I tried to print pages 7-9 (the score) double
 sided, and then single sided, and both times got pages with (some of
 the) staff lines and stems and brackets and text, but no note heads.
 
 When I print the whole file single sided, the score prints as expected.
 
 When it's not printing correctly, I get lots of error messages in the
 console window from which I invoked xpdf.  Here are some of them:
 
 Error (1114123): Illegal character 12 in hex string
 Error (1114124): Illegal character 82 in hex string
 Error (1114125): Illegal character 82 in hex string
 Error (1114075): Illegal character '}'
 Error (1114126): Illegal character ''
 Error: font resource is not a dictionary
 Error: font resource is not a dictionary
 Error: ExtGState 'R7' is unknown
 Error: Unknown font tag 'R8'
 Error (812121): No font in show
 Error: Unknown font tag 'R8'
 
 This is lily 2.14.1, on ubuntu 10.10, with xpdf version 3.02, printing
 on a Brother HL-5250DN printer.  I would be happy to report this bad
 behavior if I had any idea which of the many programs involved in
 turning my lilypond code into black marks on paper was responsible.
 Does anyone have a better educated guess than I do for how to narrow the
 field of possible suspects?
 
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 (617) 661-8097233 Broadway, Cambridge, MA 02139   
 http://www.laymusic.org/ http://www.serpentpublications.org
 
 This song is Copyrighted in U.S., under Seal of Copyright #154085, for
 a period of 28 years, and anybody caught singin' it without our
 permission, will be mighty good friends of ourn, cause we don't give a
 dern. Publish it. Write it. Sing it. Swing to it. Yodel it. We wrote
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Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-10 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Sat 09 Jul 2011, 01:58 Janek Warchoł wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 currently it is:
 right:
[...]
 Dmytro

Actually, I would like the third (right one) to be a bit higher (and deeper, 
probably).

I would definitely like to try it myself...

So, for now it's oh well..., not more.

 
 therefore i'm opening a Rietveld issue: http://codereview.appspot.com/4664070
 
 2011/7/6 Reinhold Kainhofer reinh...@kainhofer.com:
  However, even in the third clef, the curvature of the vertical line looks a 
  bit too straight in the lower half...
 
 I agree that even the third clef could be improved, but i don't think
 i'm able to make it any better myself.  If you want to try, i attach
 my patch. A tip to speed up work: use this script to generate a dvi
 preview of glyphs (no need to run make, and it also shows metafont
 control points):
 #!/bin/bash
 mf '\mode:=proof; input feta20'
  gftodvi feta20.2602gf \
   mv feta20.dvi feta20new.proof.dvi
 
 If you have trouble figuring out what to change, ask.
 
 W dniu 8 lipca 2011 00:14 użytkownik James Lowe
 james.l...@datacore.com napisał:
  until you really print out a score and plop it on your music stand and then 
  have sharps and flats and time signatures and other ornamentation, I don't 
  really think one can make a definite case for either.
 
 True.  Please send me some 2.15.5-compatible input files and i'll
 compile them with my suggested clef, so we'll have some real-life
 example to study.  I'll also take something from my collection.
 
 thanks,
 Janek
 
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Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-10 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Sun 10 Jul 2011, 12:48 Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
 So, I prefer the upper loop of the original clef, but the vertical line of 
 the 
 third one...
Most probably, I would say that -- if the upper loop was as in the original
clef -- lower part sholud be deeper, too.

So, if I could (sorry, again) try, I would take the third one and make it
higher and deeper. Sorry for being so rough.

ps. I am not sure that we really need to replace existing one, though.

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Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-07 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Thu 07 Jul 2011, 10:16 Janek Warchoł wrote:
 I guess our G-clef is curved partly to distinguish itself from other
 software' clefs.  Default Finale clef has very straight vertical line
 for example.
I would rather not take into account other software' clefs..

(Probably, I simply do not like Finale's one, please don't mind.)

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Re: setting the font size for markups independently

2011-07-06 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Tue 05 Jul 2011, 13:35 Kieren MacMillan wrote:
 Hey Eluze,
 
  i think Kieren's solution works if you override the property of the
  TextScript in its real context which seems to be the Voice context:
 
 D'oh!
 Sorry for the noise… thanks for the correction!
I doubt if either could help, if that is top-level markup
(outside of any Voice or any Score).

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Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-06 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Wed 06 Jul 2011, 21:10 Janek Warchoł wrote:
 Which one of the clefs in the attachment do you like best?
The first one.

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Re: font survey: which clef do you prefer?

2011-07-06 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Wed 06 Jul 2011, 22:53 Janek Warchoł wrote:
 W dniu 6 lipca 2011 22:21 użytkownik James Lowe
 james.l...@datacore.com napisał:
  Can we have some sharps and flats and perhaps some numeric signatures?
  There is no context for the clef otherwise (if you see what I mean).
 
 Attached.
The third one .)

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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-05 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Tue 05 Jul 2011, 18:09 Matthew Collett wrote:
 On 5/07/2011, at 8:26 am, Graham Percival wrote:
  Ah, but as far as lilypond is concerned, whitespace *is* nothing. :)
 
 And therefore any example containing unnecessary whitespace _is_
 an example from which nothing can be removed. 
Great, but if nothing==whitespace here -- yes, it can be removed,
but not should .)  So, just make it as readable as possible.

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Re: R1\fermata

2011-07-05 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Tue 05 Jul 2011, 12:12 Mario Moles wrote:
 Hi lilyponders!
Hi!

 This is a bug?
No, it's not!

 In this ly-file lilypond don't print the fermata:
Please search for \fermataMarkup.
(R1 is not a note)

 violin = \relative c'' {
   \global
   % Qui segue la musica.
   R1\fermata|
 }

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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-04 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Mon 04 Jul 2011, 15:39 James Harkins wrote:
 \version 2.14.1
 
 \include english.ly
 
 \score {
   \new Staff {
 \key d \major
 \numericTimeSignature
 \time 4/4
 r4
 \times 4/5 { cs' d'' b''16\ cs' d'' b''cs' d'' b''cs' d'' 
 b''cs' d'' b''~ }
 cs' d'' b''16 cs' d'' b''8.
 
 %% Here: the tie on the D's looks funny
 %% Too tall? Left-hand endpoint is not aligned with the B tie?
 ~ 
 
 cs' d'' b''8 [ b d'' a''-\mf ]
   }
 }
 
 It looks even funnier at lower resolution, somewhat better when viewed up 
 close.

 I'm aware of \override TieColumn #'tie-configuration but would just as soon
 avoid it if possible.
Could you please try to make your example smaller (as small as possible, to be
a tiny example, see http://lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html) ?

 Unrelated question -- I had asked a week or two ago if there is any
 more-convenient way to write repeated chords without copying and pasting the
 ... expressions. I don't recall seeing an answer on the list. If the
 answer is no, it would help me to know that for sure so that I can quit
 wondering.
This is here (as far as you use 2.14, current stable):
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/notation/single-voice.html#chord-repetition

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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-04 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Mon 04 Jul 2011, 10:30 Graham Percival wrote:
 Dmytro: here's a Tiny example.
 
 \version 2.14.1
 
 \relative c'' {
   \time 2/4
   d16 d8. ~ d8 d
   % both sets of ties in chords look icky
   d16 d b8. ~ d b8 d
   \tieUp
   d16 d b8. ~ d b8 d
 }
Thank you. It's almost what's I am finished up with.

ps. James, I am sorry, as you can see, there is some things which should have
been removed from this code to make it a tiny example. This is what
developers ask bug squad about; and what we would love to ask for, in issue
reports. Thank you for your report!

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Re: Odd-looking tie on a chord

2011-07-04 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Mon 04 Jul 2011, 15:39 James Harkins wrote:
 \version 2.14.1
 
 \include english.ly
 
 \score {
   \new Staff {
 \key d \major
 \numericTimeSignature
 \time 4/4
 r4
 \times 4/5 { cs' d'' b''16\ cs' d'' b''cs' d'' b''cs' d'' 
 b''cs' d'' b''~ }
 cs' d'' b''16 cs' d'' b''8.
 
 %% Here: the tie on the D's looks funny
 %% Too tall? Left-hand endpoint is not aligned with the B tie?
 ~ 
 
 cs' d'' b''8 [ b d'' a''-\mf ]
   }
 }
 
 It looks even funnier at lower resolution, somewhat better when viewed up 
 close.
 
 I'm aware of \override TieColumn #'tie-configuration but would just as soon 
 avoid it if possible.
I found this is an instance of known issue, 1126:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1126

I have added your example there thougth.

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Re: Fermata over parallel barlines

2011-07-01 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Fri 01 Jul 2011, 10:48 Hilary Snaden wrote:
 Is it possible to place a fermata over barlines in more than just
 the top staff in a system? (In this case over all of the staffs in a
 choirstaff.)
Please, have you tried to search?

http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=fermata

Can something like this: http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=10 -- help you?

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Re: system-system-spacing in lilypond-book-file

2011-06-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Wed 29 Jun 2011, 08:26 Stefan Thomas wrote:
 Dear Philippe,
 thanks for Your explanation. It works fine now.
 I think this should be mentioned explicitly in the manual.
I believe it is here:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.14/Documentation/usage/latex

Isn't it?

If not, would you please write to bug-lilypond (or here) what exactly sould be
added and to which section of the manual?

Thank you!


 Hello,
 
  Here is a little explanation about the problem : in fact, when including a
  lilypond snippet with breaks in a LaTeX document, lilypond-book makes a
  separate .ly file for each system.
 
  In that way, the become 2 images included in a LaTeX file. That's why the
  \paper {system-system-spacing} block won't do anything.
 
  The subject was mentionned 2 years ago here :
 
  http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-01/msg00440.html
  http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2009-01/msg00440.html
 
  A possible solution was to add a command in the LaTeX preamble :
 
  \newcommand{\
  betweenLilyPondSystem}[1]{\vspace{1mm}\linebreak}
 
  You may of course change the \vspace to the value you want.
 
  The question was also mentionned here :
 
  http://old.nabble.com/between-system-space-does-not-work-with-lilypond-
  book-td6988067.html#a6988067
  http://old.nabble.com/between-system-space-does-not-work-with-lilypond-
  book-td6988067.html#a6988067
 
  Hope this helps.
 
  Philippe
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Re: SustainPedal: to-barline setting?

2011-06-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Wed 29 Jun 2011, 13:23 Kieren MacMillan wrote:
 Hi Phil (and Xavier),
 
  This is issue http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1128
 
 Would be nice for this to be fixed — I can offer C$25 bounty on a fix.
Thank you! -- your offer has beed added to the tracker,)

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Re: controlling hyphen visibility after line break

2011-06-29 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Mon 27 Jun 2011, 22:52 Federico Bruni wrote:
 great! please add it to the tracker
Finally, i've added it as 1722:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1722

Sorry for delay; you would better report issues to bug-lilypond!-)

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Re: Percussion Notation

2011-06-27 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Mon 27 Jun 2011, 04:09 cdg wrote:
 So, is it possible to adjust the angle of these symbols?
Well, since i know nothing about percussion notation -- i hope someone more
knowledgeable will answer this .(


 On an unrelated issue and possibly quite the newbie question,
  in the tempo marking, is there a way to 1) 
 remove the parenthesis from around the note and numerical value, 
 2) make the note smaller, and 3) change the font of the numerical values.
  I've tried using \markup with little success. I can implement 
 \markup fine with the preceding text, Largo espressive for example,
  but I can't seem to make it work for the following 'note value equals
  number' section. 
You can find a lot of examples in Lilypond Snippet Repository:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Search?q=tempo

I guess, you need to create whole tempo mark in \markup.

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Re: controlling hyphen visibility after line break

2011-06-27 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Mon 27 Jun 2011, 09:30 Federico Bruni wrote:
  Actually, I'm not directly interested in this issue.  I'm just trying to
  help Luca (reviewer of Italian documentation), who asked a couple of
  times about this and never got a reply:
  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-02/msg00330.html 
  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2011-04/msg00470.html 
  
  Thanks in advance for your help,
  Federico
 
 Maybe currently there's no way to achieve this.
 Should I write a feature request to put on the tracker? (the reason for
 this request is explained in the first link to the archives above)
 
 Please let me know.
imho: I can't see why this may not be a valid enhancement request.

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Re: Bug Squad: 40-minute-a-week volunteer needed

2011-06-27 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

Wow, I have missed something important!

Sorry for being so late -- anyway -- great, Derek, thank you and welcome!


On Mon 27 Jun 2011, 11:25 Ralph Palmer wrote:
 Thanks, Derek, and welcome to the Bug Squad!
 
 Ralph
 
 On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Graham Percival
 gra...@percival-music.cawrote:
 
  On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 08:40:55AM -0500, Derek Klinge wrote:
  I don't have any experience with bug tracking or anything like that,
  but
  am willing to help out. I am an experienced Linux user, and have
  regular
  access to e-mail and such.
 
  Great!  You're scheduled for:
   20 minutes Wednesday
   20 minutes Saturday
 
  On your next day (i.e. Wednesday), please start following the
  instructions here:
  http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.15/Documentation/contributor/bug-squad-setup
 
  Phil Holmes is currently the Bug Meister, and he will help you get
  started -- ask him for help if anything is unclear.
 
  Don't worry if it takes a 2 or 3 weeks to really get into the
  hang of things; the team is organized so that each person can
  cover the work of other members, and we all remember how confusing
  it was at the beginning.

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Re: Slurs across system breaks are not good

2011-06-24 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Fri 24 Jun 2011, 05:21 MusFelix wrote:
 My main complaints are two:
 
 1.  The slur BEFORE the break should not have such a steep slope.  If a the
 slur goes from a C to the same C , the slur should be horizontal.  And if
 the slur goes to a higher or lower note, the slope should _slightly_
 indicate this.  As of right now, it droops down in a meaningless fashion.
 
 2.  The slur AFTER the break should not begin after the clef but after the
 key signature (if there is one).  It too should only slightly indicate the
 direction (no weird sloping), and be more or less horizontal.
 
 Does this not bother anyone else?  Can't this be fixed?
At least the second one was added to the issue tracker as issue 379:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=379

(there are some other issues related to such slur behavior)

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Re: How to generate small example PNGs

2011-06-23 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Thu 23 Jun 2011, 10:06 Ralf Mattes wrote:
 Hello list,
Hi!

 for a webproject with music examples I need to create PNG files with small
 mucic examples. I'm shure I once had some examples but I can't find them
 any more. I'm currently invoking lilypond like this:
 
  lilypond --png --output=cadence_3 94244234-tmp.ly
I guess, you could use this approach:

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2011-06/msg00383.html

(for me, i've added -bordercolor white -border 1x1 to convert's options)


Please note that this way does not override explicit tagline (see Colin's
reply).


 
 The file looks something like this:
 
  \version  2.11.49
 
 \header {
   tagline = ##f
 }

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Re: test of convert-ly

2011-05-23 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk

On Thu 19 May 2011, 18:02 Carl Sorensen wrote:
 This should probably be an enhancement request -- to have convert-ly ignore
 lines with comments.  We currently don't have any status checking to see if
 we are in a comment or not.
Added as 1659:
http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1659

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Re: How to thing a staff's lines

On Mon 04 Apr 2011, 16:22 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng wrote:
 Hello,
   I find the culprit for my score. The staff lines are thick, and when the 
 staff size is reduced to 10, the space between two staff lines is very few. 
 How to make the staff lines thinner? My mother saw many Finale scores 
 published by our People's Music Publishing are very clear, and some pocket 
 scores have the same feature.
You can do that with StaffSymbol's 'thickness property.

{
 % this is the default value, i do believe:
 \override Staff.StaffSymbol #'thickness = #1
 c''1
}

However, Lilypond makes small objects _relatively thicker_ for better
readability (like different character widths for different font sizes for
ComputerModern font, for example -- sorry, i couldn't find better example).

I can believe that an eye, trained by Finale, will see Lilypond's output as
far too thick, but Lilypond does that intentionally, for readability's sake.

Probably, this behavior may be adjusted *for all* grobs, not StaffSymbol only,
but i don't know whether it is possible or not (i'd say it should be, but i am
not sure).

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Re: Re: How to thing a staff's lines

On Mon 04 Apr 2011, 16:52 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng wrote:
 Thanks. But I can't find the default value in the IR. Where's it?
3.2.103 staff-symbol-interface:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/internals/staff_002dsymbol_002dinterface

(this page is referenced from 3.1.101 StaffSymbol:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.13/Documentation/internals/staffsymbol )

% quote:
thickness (number)
Line thickness, generally measured in line-thickness. 
% end of quote.


So, #1 means as thick as 1 staff line :-)

Original 'line-thicknes will remain unmodified (as far as i understand) after
your override 'thickness for your StaffSymbol.

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Re: Extreme bad midi output in 2.13.57!!!

On Mon 04 Apr 2011, 16:48 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng wrote:
 Lilypond 2.13.57 outputs midi in a extreme bad manner! Please compile a
 piece you recently wrote, and you'll collapse when listening the result. All
 note values are messed up, and in orchestral score, all instruments start at
 the beginning, like a pan of boiling water!
Sorry, i can not see (hear) that for a couple of my scores. Everything is ok.

Could you please send a minimal example?

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Re: How to define the names of separate \book output files