Re: purple highlight in Frescobaldi

[Edward Ardzinski]

Thanks-in my case it was Ctrl-B instead of Ctrl-V.

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> On Oct 27, 2018, at 3:26 AM, Urs Liska  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Am 27. Oktober 2018 08:59:30 MESZ schrieb Andrew Bernard 
> :
>> Hello Joseph,
>> 
>> Something that tricked me for a long time also. Many people don't
>> realize
>> F. has a 'mark current line' function, accessible from the View menu,
>> or
>> Ctrl-B by default. It's a useful feature for bookmarking lines of
>> interest.
>> You can have more than one mark. When you move off the line, it's
>> highlighted in purple, just as you say. There is a 'clear all marks'
>> function int he View menu as well.
>> 
>> Once you know about this, it's really useful, I find.
> 
> It's easy to hit ctrl-b instead of ctrl-m, for example...
> 
>> 
>> Andrew
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Re: basic question regarding \drummode

[Edward Ardzinski]

Shouldn't any tonal parts be a specific instrument (such as a vibraphone)?  
Each instrument should have it's own staff, regardless if more than one voice 
is handled by a single performer.

In the case the players are moving around, and say there are times where player 
A plays the snare while player B is on the vibes, then later the roles are 
reversed, I'd use four separate staffs.

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> On Nov 4, 2016, at 6:18 PM, Tobin Chodos  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> What's the best way to handle a percussion part that has a lot of pitched and 
> un-pitched material?  
> 
> The part is declared with just one \DrumStaff, but then \switchInstrument 
> seems powerless to take it out of \drummode.  Seems like various workarounds 
> are possible, but I bet someone has a good solution.
> 
> Thanks as always.
> 
> Tobin
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Re: Question for a FLOSS licensing session

[Edward Ardzinski]

After reading these replies I may not be wiser...but it did occur to me that
there might be a flaw in my thinking as I do the "programming" with
Frescobaldi.  Does that have an impact on any of these issues?  Would have
been changed looking back to the "old days" when I used my own editor I
wrote in Visual C++?



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Re: Question for a FLOSS licensing session

[Edward Ardzinski]

Does this matter to the average user?  Probably not.  But some here use LP for 
more than I do.

But I'm not sure why the programming should be separated from the output?  From 
my perspective the programming IS the music, be it a PDF score or the MIDI 
files I use to make my MP3 demos.

Certainly I see a differentiation license wise between taking the midi and 
rendering the MP3.  I don't have to take that step.  But if I'm using LP to 
make a final product, I certainly need to write the programming code.

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> On Oct 30, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Urs Liska  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm right now at the GSoC mentors summit and already had a bunch of
> interesting sessions.
> 
> One specific one that is to come this afternoon is a Q session about
> FLOSS licensing, done by a FSF lawyer. I want to take the opportunity to
> raise a question that in some way or another pops up around here
> occasionally, circling around the problem that with LilyPond it is often
> difficult to draw a proper line between document content, in-document
> coding and including GPLed code from LilyPond or openLilyLib.
> 
> I have tried to write up the case at
> https://git.openlilylib.org/snippets/2, and if someone wants to comment
> on it within the next three hours I may consider it for my questions.
> 
> Urs
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Re: Bar Lines and Compound Time Signature

[Edward Ardzinski]

Worked like a charm.  Thanks!



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Re: Bar Lines and Compound Time Signature

[Edward Ardzinski]

compound_time_signature_bar_line_issue.pdf

  
compound_time_signature_bar_line_issue.ly

  

I would like the bar number on the second line to be 9, not 5, counting each
bar of 17 as 1 bar of 9 and another of 8...then have 18 on the beginning of
the 3rd line in the pdf



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Bar Lines and Compound Time Signature

[Edward Ardzinski]

I'm working on a piece that alternates between 9/8 and 4/4.  The compound
time signature is great.  Where in my original piece I had the time changes
in the fragmentary 2 bar music variables, with the compound time signature I
removed the time changes and forced a bar line after the 9/8 "measure".

This had the desired effect, but I noticed that the bar lines were absent
when my bar lines caused a new stave set in the middle of the compound TS
(that is, when the new line began with a 4/4 sub-measure).

Is there a way to get the bar line numbers to follow the subdivisions of the
compound time signature rather than the entire measure?  Thanks...



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Hiding one dynamic on a drum staff?

[Edward Ardzinski]

I usually write in a lazy way, omitting most dynamic marks, but a piece I'm
working on now I'm explicitly putting a crescendo for a few bars on the drum
part.  For ease I just put it in the notes, rather than create a separate
variable for the drum staff dynamics and attach it in the score block.

Not that I care that much about my pdf output, but I'm getting duplicates of
the crescendo:

 

I'm having difficulty finding anything in the users guide about dynamics,
although I know it's there.  Appreciate any help!



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Re: Hiding one dynamic on a drum staff?

[Edward Ardzinski]

Geez, thought about including the code:

Just a basic drum staff inside a score block:

  \new DrumStaff
  <<
\new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \dh }
\new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \dl }
  >>

the dynamics are embedded in the \dh and \dl notes.  the drum high part:

  cymc4 r4.
  sn8\ppp\< [sn sn] sn4
  sn8 [sn sn] sn4
  sn8 [sn sn\f] sn4

The drum low part has a similarly constructed part...



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Re: Hiding one dynamic on a drum staff?

[Edward Ardzinski]

Edski-Rat-City_v2.ly
  





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Re: Hiding one dynamic on a drum staff?

[Edward Ardzinski]

Thanks, Simon.  Not exactly what I'd like, but far more presentable.  Like I
said, I'm not too concerned with the look, but I don't like "ugly" things.



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Re: Strange LilyPond crash

[Edward Ardzinski]

Here's the file... Edski-2015-11-16_v4_test.ly

  



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Re: Strange LilyPond crash

[Edward Ardzinski]

I don't know if I'm stumbling on something similar, but I can't believe that
it's a large file issue - the piece is about 50 bars of mostly slow 7 with a
repeat unfolded, two voices and a 2 part drum staff, no lyrics, and done
entirely with 2.18.2

I got to the final dozen bars, and was compiling a score block for the midi
with the drums, and a pdf score without.  I added the final variable with
the coda, and got:

Starting lilypond-windows.exe 2.18.2 [Edski-2015-11-16 v4 test.ly]...
Processing
`c:/users/edward/appdata/local/temp/frescobaldi-cyoxhi/tmpcpyl1r/Edski-2015-11-16
v4 test.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...[8][16][24][32]
Exited with return code -1073741819.

Eventually I added the drums, the pdf works fine.



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Re: Website down?

[Edward Ardzinski]

I haven't been able to reach http://www.lilypond.org in a few days...



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Thoughts on Frescobaldi...

[Edward Ardzinski]

WOW!  This is what I was trying to do with the editor I wrote 10 years ago
(which kept me tied to v2.6.5), if I had the programming skill/patience. 
There is so much available that I don't need to have the template file I
used to use anymore.

I'm still struggling a little bit with the output path, but it's not a big
deal since I was seriously contemplating using notepad.  The editor is also
not finding available variables inside of my drum variables.  Again not a
big deal since I'm pretty methodical about my variable names and have relied
on cut/paste for a long time (hence my initial idea to just use notepad).

As for snippets - so far I've added a generic variable, generic drum
high/low variable, the code to set a midi instrument, a drum staff, and a
comment break (just a percent sign followed by a bunch of asterisks).  As I
have been working on an old tune of mine I also added a generic rhythmic
framework for chords which simplified getting the backbone of the tune
working.  Since I use a lot of these same rhythms a lot, it'll probably stay
in the list - I'm likely to use that rhythm again.

There's still a lot for me to delve into with v2.18.2 and Frescobaldi...I'm
going to eventually get to working on adding lyrics, and have to re-learn
how to write alternative melodies and how to attach lyrics (seems there have
been some changes since 2.6.5), and deal with chord names and their
alternatives (I think chord name exceptions got better with v2.10?).  There
some volume tweaks I've seen with midi (the main thrust of what I do) that
I've seen briefly - I'll have to go back and read those sections a little
closer.  But nothing so far has been too difficult in 2.18.  And I'll
recover the files on my old hard drive eventually, then I can play with
convert ly.

But all in all, I'm very pleased with both the new version of Lilypond and
Frescobaldi.



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Re: frescobaldi output file location

[Edward Ardzinski]

I'm in the same boat, and was confused.  Actually it seems that you can save
the PDF when you do a preview also.  For the midi files after I've played it
in Windows Media Player I open the file folder up and copy the file to where
I want.  Opening the folder this way gets me access tot he PDF to do the
same if I want.

I have not found that the output path is editable...it's not a deal breaker
to me.



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Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far.

[Edward Ardzinski]

I donwloaded and installed Frescobaldi.  I'm giving it a test run now, 
finishing up a piece I'm working on.



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Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far.

[Edward Ardzinski]

I think I'm going to like Frescobaldi - especially building up the snippets I
need...

Now to see how long I stay on this version. LOL

Thanks!



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Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

[Edward Ardzinski]

Martin's "\pointAndClickOff " did the trick, but "#(ly:set-option
'point-and-click #f) " was what I used to use, David.

Frescobaldi is where I'm headed.   But I think an extended time using the
native tools will do me some good.  Even some of my oldest files were
difficult to revise, even using the same version.  I have some re-learnin's
to do.



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2.18.2 - Thoughts so far

[Edward Ardzinski]

1) I was apparently following some good practices in 2.6.5, since what I've
done in 2.18.2 has been essentially seamless.  But...

a) I miss my old editor, as I had a lot of code shortcuts built in it. 
Still, I had not updated it in many years, so there was an ancillary text
file of snippets.  I think with Notepad, a template file, and a code
snippets file I will manage well.

b) There were some pieces that I tried to do some instrument specific
things (I recall tweaking a lot of code for a cross staff arpeggio's in a
few piano pieces) - these will need work.  But for the most part, creating
midi files, well, game on!

2) The midi enhancements are great, I can put the dynamics in the music
score where they belong (I was cheating and doing that visually in another
program to manipulate the midi files), which can only make me a better
composer.  I guess I could have/should have been doing this in 2.6.5, but
since I have to use something else to get good instruments sounds...so far
the Lilypond instrument sounds are great.

a) While this is all good things, there apparently is a constraint on
getting a long terminal note to decrescendo in midi?  Anyone with a hack?

b) Articulations and dynamics are important.  And hard work.  Thanks...I
guess. ;-)

3) The current advancements have me able to get basically where I was with
LP 2.6.5 and AcidPRO 6, except for a for a few issues

a) the terminal fade out mentioned above

b) tempo changes in midi (have not yet tried that - any 
advice/warnings?)

c) effects: I was evolving towards a very dry mix anyway, so the fact 
that
the free-ware midi to mp3 converter has some digital artifacts (drums
especially - on an open high-hat I hear it a lot) is nto a fatal issue. 
These are after all demos..

4) One final thought, as my snippets/code are in purgatory - what's the code
switch at the beginning of the input file to turn off the point-n-click in
the PDF output?  Thx!!!



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Re: 2.18.2 - Thoughts so far.

[Edward Ardzinski]

I've been exposed to vi through work, and really failed to see the "thing"
that fuels the vi fan club.  Actually I can't recall the other side of that
turf war, but I know that Notepad is not even a dream in that conflagration.

Notepad has it's limitations, but...it's predictable.  At least to a boy
like me brought up in windows.  I find once I get my "template" together,
that and a repository of useful syntax gets me most of the way there.  As
much as I like intellisense, I do remember a day without it.



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There used to be a way... dynamics in Midi

[Edward Ardzinski]

As I have evolved using LP I've become very modular.  One of the last things
I was working on before my computer crash was a serial/tone row thing, so
that's where I picked up.

So I have my upper and lower parts, and a drum part...I remember that there
was a way to assign dynamics to each part, so the upper part would come in
at mf, while the lower part starts at mp...and at bar 21 the upper part has
become p, and the lower part is a mf

Does this make sense to anybody?

my score block...

\score {
  <<
% score layout

\context Voice = "one"
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"flute"
\transpose c c' \vcTwo
}

\context Voice = "two"
{
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"bassoon"
\transpose c c, \vcOne
}

\new DrumStaff
<<
\new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \dh }
\new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo \dl }
>>

  >>

 %\layout { \context { \Staff \RemoveEmptyStaves } }
 \midi { \tempo 4 = 144 }
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Re: There used to be a way... dynamics in Midi

[Edward Ardzinski]

I've figured it out, and it's probably the same as in my way-back machine. 
Now the skill will be writing good, accurate dynamics.

Here's my score block, with dynBass and dynDrums my dynamics variables.  And
yes, I know I have the first context as voice two...

\score {
<<

\context Voice = "two"
{
<<\set Staff.midiInstrument = #"acoustic bass" \bass  \dynBass>>
}

\new DrumStaff
<<
\new DrumVoice { \voiceOne <<\dh \dynDrums>> }
\new DrumVoice { \voiceTwo <<\dl \dynDrums>> }
>>
>>

  %\layout { \context { \Staff \RemoveEmptyStaves } }
  \midi { \tempo 4 = 144 }
}



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Re: Upgrade to 2.18 from...a long time ago

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Right now it's a total reboot.  When I finally do recover the old files they
will work just fine on my friends computer.  But now I've started with a
blank file in Notepad, 2.18.2, and starting off with an example file.  At
this point I just about have my old template "re-written".

One thing I've noticed, is that running LP directly seems far quicker than
my old computer.  Not sure how much of that was the extra layer of the text
editor I had written, or how much of that was general 6 year old Windows 7
box slowness.



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Re: Upgrade to 2.18 from...a long time ago

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All my old files are on a currently inaccessible hard drive.  I'm creating new 
files.  My style may reflect 2.6.5 

Right now I'm just trying to recreate the template I was using.  Small steps.

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> On Sep 29, 2015, at 5:59 AM, tisimst <tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Edward,
> 
> Not sure which version you are used to using, but yes, I can verify the use 
> of \tempo inside of the \midi block in any of the recent stable and unstable 
> versions. I've found it quite handy when the printed score just uses tempo 
> text (like "Andante"), but since that doesn't carry a numeric value with it, 
> you can manually use \midi { \tempo 4 = 72 } to get the right playback speed 
> while not affecting what appears on the printed score.
> 
> But you probably knew that already...
> 
> Best,
> Abraham
> 
>> On Monday, September 28, 2015, Edward Ardzinski [via Lilypond] <[hidden 
>> email]> wrote:
>> My computer died, and while I should be able to salvage my old filed, but 
>> for now I'm trying to deal with using note pad. 
>> 
>> It seems my old template might work ok, I thought that I could not use 
>> \tempo in the midi {} block, but it seems to work. 
>> 
>> It's funny how much you forget relying on tools and other shortcuts. 
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Upgrade to 2.18 from...a long time ago

[Edward Ardzinski]

My computer died, and while I should be able to salvage my old filed, but for 
now I'm trying to deal with using note pad.

It seems my old template might work ok, I thought that I could not use \tempo 
in the midi {} block, but it seems to work.

It's funny how much you forget relying on tools and other shortcuts.

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Re: Fwd: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

[Edward Ardzinski]

I'm just about 6 weeks shy of 50, been programming computers for close to 20
years. I have been involved with deep database design, GUI design, and
reporting over the years, I'm primarily a SQL jock now.

I picked up Lilypond in early 2006, if the modified dates on my files are
any indication.  I'm assiduous that way - It's helped narrow the genesis of
ideas.

Lilypond's set up immediately hooked me, I really have never used any other
manuscript programs, so my perspective is probably pretty limited.  And
unique - as a programmer I created my own text editor...now that the source
code is on a very old computer, I'm kind of locked into the very old LP
version I run...I did some experimenting with v2.12, so I think I could
convert, but at this point I have not had any limitations in 2.6.5.  (yes,
that old)...

I am primarily a rock bassist, but with some classical piano and trumpet
training,and I also can play guitar.  I developed my own template and
methods of taking a simple musical theme and weaving it into a 2-4 minute
song.  I'm trying to write out a cogent essay outlining the symbiotic
process between my music LP and the other software products I employ. 
Mainly I create midi files for a 3 part "power trio" - a treble part, a bass
part, and a 2 stave drum kit.  From there I use AcidPRO to create mp3's
files to hear, in a general way, the way the music sounds.



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Re: Fwd: Re: OT: Beauty of programming languages

[Edward Ardzinski]

At this point I can't even locate the LP 2.6.5 install package - so I'll be
faced with a change when I need a new computer, and that is probably a
shockingly small number of days.

I figure I can figure something out for opening ly files - they are text
after all.  The custom editor was fun and all that, but it's been 6 years
since I did an update to that even, and now have a "code fragments" text
file I keep open.

I think my structured work of the last few years will be easier to port - I
can't even get good work done on some of my oldest work since I was writing
things out in such a verbose way.  I suspect I will need primarily to tweak
the template file for the little bits I've read on newer versions of LP. 
The version of AP I'm using also also ages old, so I might be porting in a
lot of ways.





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Regression Tests?

[Edward Ardzinski]

I'm confused, trying to read old posts...

What is the Regression Tests documents?  Where do I locate them?

I'm using 2.6.5 on a Win XP/Home machine...right now I'm at a point where I 
want to alter the way a couple of chords are printed, probably common tricks.  
I want a 13th to just have 13 in the chord symbol rather than 9 add 13 
(which I know is really the same thing), and want a half diminished chord to be 
printed out as a m7b5...

I've seen some posts about these subjects, but always mentioning 
the Regression Tests, and that detail stumps me!

Thanks!



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chord_name_exceptions.ly question

[Edward Ardzinski]

I tried to post about this before...I don't knwo why my post never showed up.

I've looked at this file, and looked at a lot of posts about changing the way 
chord names are displayed, and all I get is more confused.  Can somebody give 
me some guidance on how to create my own list of chord name exceptions, and how 
to implement it?

I've read that the chord name exceptions file shows how to do this.  I can't 
make heads nor tails from it...sorry if I'm being stupid about it.  I'm sure 
once I understand it I'll truly feel stupid, but right now I just can't get a 
clue.

Specifically, I'd rather a 13th chord be A13 instead of A9/add 13, and I'd 
like to have the half diminished chord show as Am7/b5)...



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Exercises

[Edward Ardzinski]

I want to put down some of my bass/fretless bass exercises.  I would like to 
have one file that has several short examples that might be a a couple of lines 
long.  I'm not having luck finding old posts, or the right spots in the 
documentation.

What I'm trying to do (I think) is stop a staff, add some space (and text) 
between it and the next staff (exercise 2)...

TIA



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New to Lilypond...many questions! Simple chord placement ? to start

[Edward Ardzinski]

I am using 2.6.5 on a WIndows XP-home box.  Pretty new computer, no issues in 
the 6 months I've been beating it.

I tried to post some code I lifted the example below from one of the examples 
in the documentation, but the submitter form kept saying I was top posting.  
I'll describe the issue. If I uncomment either the bass clef of the key 
signature, the chord symbols will print below the staff for me.  Not critical, 
but it looks better for doing a lead sheet (which is a large part of what I'm 
seeing myself do with this program) having the chords on top, and the first 
tune I am working on is in B major...

Is there a way for me to ensure the chord symbols print above the stave?  Bug 
on Windows eXpect Problems??  Especially this cheeze Home Edition?

I am just expecting a little too much of myself after playing in the pond for 
a couple of days? :-)

I would be happy to send an e-mail with an attached .ly file to show what's 
happening.

Thanks



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