Re: free LilyPond advertising
Ok, here's the rub: we have this mechanism called concave beams, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/input/regression/collated-files#beam-concave.ly: Beams whose inside notes get closer to the beam than the edge notes should be horizontal. This is pretty obvious for single-voice notes; for chords it gets hairier: which part of the chord notes do we use to decide this? Right now, we use the notes farthest away from the beam. We could use the top notes (the highest is the melody?) instead. What do you think? [hmmm, the #filename links are broken; we get the full path name now. Is this something recent? John?] 2008/2/24, Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK. maybe this isn't advertising, but as a recovering Finale user I have been taking notes about what it was like to try LilyPond for the first time. The first three installments of those writings are now posted on my site and, of course, the LilyPond output looks marvellous: http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-1.html *Very* nice, especially the references to lilypond bugs :-) Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Concave beams (was: free LilyPond advertising)
2008/2/24, Rune Zedeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Han-Wen Nienhuys skrev:
This is pretty obvious for single-voice notes; for chords it gets
hairier: which part of the chord notes do we use to decide this?
I think we should look at both top notes and bottom notes. We should
only make the beam horizontal if they agree that the pattern is concave.
(I.e. form a pattern of the top notes. Form another pattern of the
bottom notes. If both patterns are concave then make the beam horizontal)
If we have something like { \stemUp c d e g f } Then we do not want a
horizontal beam.
Hmm .. I'm not sure. I've put the 'look at upper note' in Git since it
concords with the data we have, but the real problem is that we're
short of data. I've created a test file beam-concave-chord.ly, to add
future test cases, to document any decisions we make.
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Re: Collisions in tuplet beams across staffs
2008/2/22, Oscar van Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Any suggestions? Is this a bug? Yes; without delving deeper into this, I'd say it might be related to the recent changes wrt. page layout. Joe? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Doing \score { ...... } and \context Staff .... in scheme?
2008/2/21, Reinhold Kainhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
\makeScore Test { c'4 d' e' f' g'1 }
Dang, that looked so promising!
It worked fine in all my tests, until I started switching my orchestral score
to my own createscore function... The problem is that cue notes do not appear
in the score!!!
See scm/lily-library.scm , function scorify-music. You need to run
toplevel-music-functions over the music first.
Without this, \\ also doesn't work.
Apparently your makeScore function is not exactly the same as
\score {
Correct. If you want to know what lily is up to, best is to look at
lily/parser.yy, where you can see the scorify-music call in the
score_body rule.
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Re: free LilyPond advertising
2008/2/23, Andrew Hawryluk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: OK. maybe this isn't advertising, but as a recovering Finale user I have been taking notes about what it was like to try LilyPond for the first time. The first three installments of those writings are now posted on my site and, of course, the LilyPond output looks marvellous: http://www.musicbyandrew.ca/finale-lilypond-1.html Excellent analysis! Is the .ly file available for further scrutiny? The flat beams in the upper right of the 2nd line look like a bug. Can someone (one of you documentation guys?) link to this from the website? as a news entry on the front-page and from the essay? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Doing \score { ...... } and \context Staff .... in scheme?
2008/2/19, Nicolas Sceaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
+LY_DEFINE (ly_score_set_header_x, ly:score-set-header!,
+ 2, 0, 0, (SCM score, SCM module),
+ Set the score header.)
+{
+ LY_ASSERT_SMOB (Score, score, 1);
+ SCM_ASSERT_TYPE (ly_is_module (module), module, SCM_ARG2,
__FUNCTION__,
+ module);
+
+ Score *sc = unsmob_score (score);
+ return sc-get_header ();
}
Shoudn't ly:score-set-header! actually set the header, rather than
returning it?
ah yes, a cut paste error.
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Re: Doing \score { ...... } and \context Staff .... in scheme?
2008/2/19, Reinhold Kainhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks for adding these bindings. However, should ly:score-header always return a header module, or do I have to create the header module myself? For It's inited as empty, so you will need to do (ly:score-set-header! score (make-module ... )) in .41 -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Doing \score { ...... } and \context Staff .... in scheme?
2008/2/17, Reinhold Kainhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Thanks for the hint... Works so far (see attached example).
However, how can I define a function so that instead of scheme, i.e.
\score { #(createscore test) }
i can simply do:
% This does NOT work (syntax error)
\score { \createscore #test}
or even better:
\createscore #test
that's not possible, afaics, but you can have
#(createscore test)
at toplevel.
check out
toplevel-score-handler
in ly/declarations-init.ly; this shows how to schedule a \score object
for typesetting.
Now that this works more or less, how can I set 'header:piece only for this
score? I tried ly:prob-set-property! and ly:context-set-property!, but
neither works. Which type of object is a score?
It's a scheme module. I think we lack the bindings to set or read the
one in the \score block from scheme. I'll add some for .41 - when the
bindings are there, it would be
(define header-object (ly:score-header score))
(module-set! header-object 'piece blah)
2.11.40 adds a ly:score-add-output-def function that will
allow you define a piece of music
What exactly does that do? There's no description, and the only use is in the
incipit example inside a lambda function used as a stencil definition. That's
wa above my head with regards to lilypond internals.
Sorry, I messed up the explanation. You can set the \layout block
with this function, which may be useful if you want to set custom
margins programmatically for some reason. Not sure if you need it.
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Re: Several issues transcribing ancient notation (clefs, noteheads, spacing)
2008/2/12, till [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
2. There is a lot of threads here on the list. You can play with all sorts
of spacing but nothing is yet really convincing. The most simple workaround
appears to be to scale all note durations to a singe duration, eg. 1/8,
which can be achieved by appending the note duration: a\breve*1/8 will give
a breve that takes only the space of 1/8. It should be possible to write a
scheme expression that does this automatically, but I don't know how.
This is very badly tested, but
\header {
texidoc =
In packed mode, pack notes as tight as possible. This makes
sense mostly in combination with raggedright mode: the notes
are then printed at minimum distance. This is mostly useful
for ancient notation, but may also be useful for some flavours
of contemporary music. If not in raggedright mode, lily will
pack as much bars of music as possible into a line, but the
line will then be stretched to fill the whole linewidth.
}
\version 2.11.40
\layout {
ragged-right = ##t
}
\relative {
\override Score.SpacingSpanner #'packed-spacing = ##t
c2 d4 f8[ g]
}
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Re: Line breaking within ligature brackets
I'm pretty sure this is already allowed. Maybe you have misalignment of a rhythm somewhere? Can you post a bugreport? 2008/1/23, Greg Swinford [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it possible to allow line breaking during ligatures (or at least ligature brackets) as it is with horizontal (analysis) brackets? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Error trapping \chordmode in LP 2.11.37 for Windows
2008/1/30, Risto Vääräniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Jan 30, 2008 11:19 AM, Valentin Villenave wrote: There's a much simpler solution: I could just make a patch against lilypond's GUB NSIS script to call lilypond instead of lilypond-windows when double-clicking on a .ly file. Why are there two executables anyway? Do they perform different things or are they sort of equivalent but they are used in different contexts. It's because of the way that DOS/windows handles stdout output. For the double-click behavior (create logfiles), we don't want to flash cmd.exe windows. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Doing \score { ...... } and \context Staff .... in scheme?
2008/2/13, Reinhold Kainhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi all,
In the large vocal and orchestral piece that I'm currently typesetting, I have
lots of score and staff definitions, which look exactly the same, except for
the variable names. Thus it would make tremendous sense to not hard-code
them, but generate them on the fly by some scheme function. Unfortunately,
all my attempts so far have failed...
In particular, what is the scheme equivalent, producing the same as the
following lilypond code?
IChorObIScore = \score {
\IChorObIStaff
\header { piece = \IChorPieceName }
}
I simply want a scheme function generate-intrument-score piece instr, which
I would then call as
\generate-instrument-score #IChor #ObI
Tha scheme function would then use
(string-symbol (string-concat piece instr #Staff))
to generate \IChorObIStaff and (eval (string-symbol)) to insert the
definition of \IChorObIStaff. So, basically, all I need is how to generate
the \score { ... } in scheme.
You have to use the scheme bindings. There is a ly:make-score
function. 2.11.40 adds a ly:score-add-output-def function that will
allow you define a piece of music
generate-score = #(define-music-function (parser location piece instr)
(string string)
#{
\score {
IIRC #{ can only contains music expressions.
#(eval (string-symbol (string-append piece instr #Staff)))
Inside scheme the # before a string is not necessary.
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Re: musicxml2ly problems
2008/2/9, Reinhold Kainhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The set data type is new in Python 2.3, and is needed in musicxml2ly to prevent duplicate definitions (i.e. I store all needed additional definitions are you sure it's 2.3 ? From the looks, this is a mac, which ships with 2.3 in /usr/bin . On other platforms, we ship 2.4 inside the lilypond package. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Crippled PS/RPM output on RHEL5
I'm stumped; I have no idea what is going on. Sorry. 2008/2/8, Ozgur Yuksel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Feb 7, 2008 5:00 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/2/7, Ozgur Yuksel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am working with GNU LilyPond 2.11.37 (the problem had existed with 2.10 too) on one RHEL5 box and a FC7 box. Although I have proper output with my FC7 box, I get crippled output (both PS and PDF) on RHEL5. The attached files bad.* show the crippled pdf and ps files of test.ly where it looks like good.png with fc7. Can you post the output of a --verbose run on the RHEL5 box? Mats was right; the problem is in reading the correct fonts. Can you run an strace of the binary? You'll probably have to modify the wrapper script (bin/lilypond) to be like strace path/to/lilypond The output will be huge. I'm just looking for the places where libfontconfig.so.X.Y and libpango.so.X.Y is opened, so grep for libfontconfig and libpango -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen Hi, I have changed ~/bin/lilypond as follows: #!/bin/sh me=`basename $0` export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/oyuksel/lilypond/usr/lib/ exec /usr/bin/strace -f -o lily.strace /home/oyuksel//lilypond/usr/bin/$me $@ and got the strace output: $ grep libfontconfig lily.strace 4126 open(/home/oyuksel/lilypond/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1, O_RDONLY) = 3 $ grep libpango lily.strace 4126 open(/home/oyuksel/lilypond/usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0, O_RDONLY) = 3 4126 open(/home/oyuksel/lilypond/usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so.0, O_RDONLY) = 3 that seems OK to me actually. Regards, Ozgur -- Linux Rulez!... http://xceptn.blogspot.com/ To send encrypted message http://www.xceptn.com/xceptn.gpg -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Crippled PS/RPM output on RHEL5
2008/2/7, Ozgur Yuksel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am working with GNU LilyPond 2.11.37 (the problem had existed with 2.10 too) on one RHEL5 box and a FC7 box. Although I have proper output with my FC7 box, I get crippled output (both PS and PDF) on RHEL5. The attached files bad.* show the crippled pdf and ps files of test.ly where it looks like good.png with fc7. Can you post the output of a --verbose run on the RHEL5 box? Mats was right; the problem is in reading the correct fonts. Can you run an strace of the binary? You'll probably have to modify the wrapper script (bin/lilypond) to be like strace path/to/lilypond The output will be huge. I'm just looking for the places where libfontconfig.so.X.Y and libpango.so.X.Y is opened, so grep for libfontconfig and libpango -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Crippled PS/RPM output on RHEL5
2008/2/4, Ozgur Yuksel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi LilyPonders, I am working with GNU LilyPond 2.11.37 (the problem had existed with 2.10 too) on one RHEL5 box and a FC7 box. Although I have proper output with my FC7 box, I get crippled output (both PS and PDF) on RHEL5. The attached files bad.* show the crippled pdf and ps files of test.ly where it looks like good.png with fc7. Can you post the output of a --verbose run on the RHEL5 box? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Tip / trick: making Adobe fonts available to fontconfig
a couple of notes: - you can also symlink the font files, which takes less space - the proper place for user settings is ~/.fonts.conf - The lilypond fontcache lives in (IIRC) ~/.lilypond-fonts-XXX or ~/.fontconfig/ ; I recommend to remove this directory and run lily again. Fontconfig has different caching mechanisms across versions, and /usr/bin/fc-cache and lilypond's Fontconfig may not look at the same directories. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond, guile, qt integration
writing a backend is a lot of work, and quite hairy because there needs to various GUILE bindings for the libraries you use. It's also highly undocumented. I recommend looking for a component based PDF viewer for KDE/Qt, so you can embed a PDF viewer in canorus. 2008/1/27, Matevž Jekovec [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The last time I checked LilyPond supported guile as a gtk frontend (a simple canvas actually) where Lilypond rendered its work. I don't know if I completely understood the concept now, but I'm looking for a Qt4 widget which LilyPond renders to. What I would like is to create a print preview option in Canorus which exports notes to Lily fileformat and runs it. My current plan is to export the notes, run Lily and launch an external PDF viewer to show the preview and/or print it. This brings lots of problems beside (PDF viewer is external, what if user doesn't have any, application is cross-platform etc.). -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: hairpinToBarline (bug or feature?)
2008/1/14, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/1/14, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It seems that this bug is fixed in version 2.11 but unfortunately not in 2.10. Shall I report it as a possible Enhancement for the stable branch? Generrally we don't do enhancements on the stable branch. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Leaving: replacements
2008/1/1, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Graham Percival wrote: An previously announced, am I gradually leaving LilyPond. This leaves a large number of tasks unfilled.ate lilypond knowledge) I would consider the job of Documentation Editor. Does it require building on multiple platforms? I have a GNU/Linux x86 box capable of doing the builds and a Mac G3 and possible access to an XP box. That would you also make you a candidate for testing all the different binary builds. :-) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: OS X 10.5 SDK
That's not the problem. The problem is that we have to have a versions of the tools that runs on Linux. 2007/12/16, Maurits Lamers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Following a message from the beginning of this year, I understood the development team still has not the SDK for Mac OSX Leopard. (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.devel/12674 -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: partcombine, but including rests in quiet voices?
2007/12/11, Reinhold Kainhofer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lilypond's partcombine comes quite close tho these guidelines, but in a few (but important) cases, it does not, most notably in the last case (where lilypond detects a solo also if one instrument is quiet for only one quarter!) Lily's part combine works for a lot of cases but is very fragile, as it has no notion of note (or rest length); it only looks at onset times of notes. I think there is little else to do but writing new code. Since you're versed with coding C++, it might be something that interests you, and I would be glad to guide you. Unfortunately, I don't have any time to take this on myself. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Beam damping
2007/12/10, Rune Zedeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thomas Scharkowski skrev: is it possible to produce horizontal beams somehow? \override Beam #'damping = #10 does not work, as already reported last year: The value #10 is not big enough Try \override Beam #'damping = #+inf.0 I think the proper solution is to insert a ideal-dy property, which is read in Beam::calc_least_squares_position(). If we had that mechanism, you could set the property to 0 to get horizontal beams. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: font errors but still output
2007/11/30, Tim Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I get errors now on any .ly file I process, but still get output. Anyone know why I get the errors and how to stop them? programming error: Glyph has no name, but font supports glyph naming. Skipping glyph U+, file C:/WINDOWS/fonts/CenturySchL-Roma.ttf Do you know where this font came from? It might help to remove it. Lily also uses CenturySchoolbook, but this TTF obviously has some problems. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: font errors but still output
2007/12/2, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: programming error: Glyph has no name, but font supports glyph naming. Skipping glyph U+, file C:/WINDOWS/fonts/CenturySchL-Roma.ttf Do you know where this font came from? It might help to remove it. Lily also uses CenturySchoolbook, but this TTF obviously has some problems. Same error here with XP (2.11.35); however the message mentions the following font instead of Tim's: c:/Program Files/LilyPond/usr/share/lilypond/current/fonts/otf/CenturySchL-Roma.otf (not surprisingly, no error with the Linux version... :) Valentin when did this start? was .34 ok? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond slowness?
2007/11/30, Simon Dahlbacka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: didn't find anything 2.7 at (http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/) 2.8.0-1 exhibits the same behavior ( i.e. is buggy) I know that there have been instances of this behavior in the past. Can anyone confirm for me that the current version doesn't do the double font caching in XP with these versions? ps. what funky business is the uninstaller up to, given that it seems to be a magnitude slower to uninstall the files than install them ? I don't know. Maybe it's a windows thing. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond slowness?
2007/12/1, Mats Bengtsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Quoting Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/11/30, Simon Dahlbacka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: didn't find anything 2.7 at (http://download.linuxaudio.org/lilypond/binaries/mingw/) 2.8.0-1 exhibits the same behavior ( i.e. is buggy) I know that there have been instances of this behavior in the past. Can anyone confirm for me that the current version doesn't do the double font caching in XP with these versions? Version 2.11.35-2 doesn't seem to rerun the font caching on my XP machine (haven't tried to remove any old cache files, though). Where do the cache files end up on XP? (I think they should be in $HOME/.lilypond-fontsomething - forgot where that is on windows). -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: SOLVED: going backwards in time
2007/11/29, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Excellent. I think what clued me in was the error message about going *backwards* in time ... And, yes: I think Han-Wen and the gurus really *really* got it right on the time-keeping: AFAICS, it's all rationals all the time and so completely exact. Actually, lily should never go backwards in time, not even if you have really wonky time sigs and tuplets, so this is definitively a bug. One possibility is that you have an overflow error: the rationals use 32 bit integers, so they easily overflow if you do strange things. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: SOLVED: going backwards in time
2007/11/29, Adam James Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I see -- so even with my arithmetic error (which started as a tiny offset of 9/6319), we should expect Lily to render the score. I can see that if fractional relations get complex enough to require more precision than 32-bit values, there could be a problem. Is a possible solution to use 64-bit representation internally? It's an option, but it's a stopgap measure. The real solution is to have a arbitrary precision arithmetic. GUILE already provides that, but it would have a slight but noticeable performance impact. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond slowness?
2007/11/29, Simon Dahlbacka [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have had a break working with lilypond, but I just downloaded 2.11.35 (running on Vista x86), and find it *very* slow compared to my recollection. We're talking close to thee digit numbers for a simple monophonic score with less than 20 bars.. This cannot be right? What am I missing here? running with -V seems to indicate that it's Building font database every time, how can I avoid this? ..and yes, I have installed it to a directory that does not require admin privileges. Unfortunately, I don't have a vista machine handy to test this. Can you check if older versions (2.7, 2.8, 2.9, 2.10, etc.) exhibit the same behavior? If no, can you use bisection to figure out which version introduced the slowness? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.11.35 does not run
2007/11/23, Francisco Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2007/11/22, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just verified that 2.11.35-2 (I released a -2 yesterday)... Thank you, now it works and it seems to be much faster. Or, is it only a sensation of mine? Don't know. On the build side, nothing changed. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.11.35 does not run
2007/11/21, Stan Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I get the same error reported by Paco on Macintosh PPC-Darwin, OS 10.4.11. I just verified that 2.11.35-2 (I released a -2 yesterday) woks on darwin-x86. Can you check if it does for ppc too? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: page breaks related to header size
2007/11/21, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just release 2.11.35. I'll be happy to test it when it's available. it's already on lilypond.org, however, something must have broken with our mirroring process to linuxaudio.org -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: page breaks related to header size
2007/11/17, Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: PPPS: In the next version, you will be able to set page-count = #some-number in the paper block, which should make these things easier to control. I've just release 2.11.35. I've noticed that most examples, take some more vertical space (mozart: 5 iso. 4 pages, typography-demo 2 iso. 1, wtk1-fugue2: 3 iso 2.) Was this expected? It seems the balance has gone too much to avoiding dense horizontal spacing. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: page breaks related to header size
2007/11/11, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thanks very much. Sorry I missed the bug report. Will there be a 2.11.35? Yes. There is finally light at the end of the GUB tunnel, so hopefully this or next week. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Description of feathered beams
There is one importatnt caveat with the feathering functions: the numbers in the ratio (here: 2/1) have to be small otherwise our Rational type overflows. 2007/10/23, Graham Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I can't speak to the specifics of feathered beams, but there's two general warnings: - explanations about what the notation means should go in the glossary. I might keep the first sentence in your explanation, but move other parts to the glossary. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Church Rests
2007/10/19, Eyolf Østrem [EMAIL PROTECTED]: They are completely usual in orchestral parts since I can remember. The signs, yes (they go back to mensural notation in the fourteenth century), but the name? I've never heard it before, and Grove doesn't mention it... It's a germanism from Kirchenpause ; better ideas warmly appreciated. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: PNG output from lilypond-book using Infotex under Cygwin
2007/10/13, Erik Igelström [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I'm trying to generate an html from an Infotex file with lilypond-book, under Cygwin. After I've put the source through lilypond-book, I seem to end up with just about everything I'm supposed to, except for the png files. It gives me eps files, and I assume that it's supposed to convert them to png, but it seems to skip that step without telling me anything about it. The lines below are what happens. Any ideas? you have to make sure that --format=png gets passed to lilypond when you run lp-book. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Strange beamed-extreme-minimum-free-lengths behaviour etc.
2007/10/9, Risto Vääräniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The behaviour of beamed-lengths beamed-minimum-free-lengths and beamed-extreme-minimum-free-lengths is also a bit fuzzy to me. If I've understood correctly the beamed-lengths specifies the basic length of the stem and beamed-extreme-minimum-free-lengths the shortest possible stem length. The beamed-minimum-free-lengths seems to be used for setting the stem length when the note is positioned on the middle staff line. Am I right? No, the function seems to be almost the same as beamed-lengths, but adds the size of any tremolo and the heights of the beams to that as well. It's not completely clear to me that these two are independent. Unfortunately this code is old and very hairy. Jan, can you comment? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Lilypond Slow on Vista (2)
You could try to run with FC_DEBUG=255, and see if you see hints in the debug output. It's a long time ago that I looked at fontconfig problems, so I forgot most of the details. 2007/10/5, David Gippner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Dear list, I recently posted a notion of my problem, that lilypond is very slow on Vista. Lilypond seems to build the font cache everytime it starts. Why is this and how could one build a permanent font cache under Vista, that could be referred to by lilypond on every start? Yours sincerely David Gippner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Fwd: Users' Manual
-- Forwarded message -- From: Jonathan Ano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 23 sep. 2007 22:07 Subject: Users' Manual To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I recently downloaded GNU Lilypond and I don't understand a thing unless I spend hours reading the manual, which would kill my eyes if I spent hours reading it off of a computer screen. The users' manual for the stable branch version is 451 pages long, and it's extremely inconvenient to print that. I was wondering if you have the manual in a book form that you ship; something like that would be helpful. Thanks, Johnny Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Fwd: Users' Manual
please cc replies to the original poster 2007/9/25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Jonathan Ano [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... The users' manual for the stable branch version is 451 pages long, and it's extremely inconvenient to print that. I was wondering if you have the manual in a book form that you ship; something like that would be helpful. i don't know of anyone offering hardcopy of the manual, but most print/copy shops will make a spiral-bound book from a pdf, relatively cheaply. that's probably more efficient than shipping. -- .pltk. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Just another boring question about manual cautionary accidentals...
Valentin Villenave escreveu:
Hello everybody,
after having spent months (if not years) wondering why the hell has
it to be the way it is?, today it's finally time for me to ask here
if anyone knows any logical answer to the following question:
The most basic syntax, in LilyPond, is:
notename/accidental/octave/duration, right?
== example: fis''2
So, if I understand correctly, all accidental-related stuff comes
right after the note, but *before* the octave indication.
Then why, when you want to add a cautionary accidental, do you have to put:
notename/accidental/octave/cautionary/duration
== fis''!2
instead of
notename/accidental/cautionary/octave/duration
== fis!''2
and why has the later to cause the compilation to crash?
Some of you might answer that since cautionary accidentals are not
mandatory, it makes sense to put them afterwards, like one would do
with expressive marks (wrong example: expressive marks come after the
duration; the cautionaries are the *only* stuff which have to come
between the octave and the duration).
But you have to admit that it makes sense to put all
accidental-related stuff together, such as fis!''2 (it's so natural to
me that every time I write cautionaries, that means in every bar, I
use this syntax, launch the compilation, and have to tell me oh,
right, I forgot... before correcting it).
I'm not asking to change the whole LilyPond syntax of course; but is
it unreasonable to ask if LilyPond could accept cautionaries before
*and* after the octave indication? Or at least, ignore it and go on
with the compilation?
It wouldn't break anything, and it would make the syntax much more
flexible and tolerant. It already is, in many ways:
spaces-insensitiveness, ties notation where you can put the tildes
wherever you want, bar checks when you want, and many cool features.
From the top of my head, this is because ! and ? only make sense
for notes, where pitches make sense in a broader context. If you
look at parser.yy, you see
simple_element:
pitch exclamations questions octave_check optional_notemode_duration
optional_rest {
there is no place to store exclamations inside a pitch.
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Re: How to deal with Time Signatures horizontal alignment?
2007/8/26, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As a result, the first TimeSignature of each system is also aligned with the left barline (which puts it too far on the left, even before the Clef). For the very first TimeSignature, no big deal: one can easily add an \once \override. But when the time signature often changes, many systems can begin with a new TimeSignature, and it becomes almost impossible to correct all of these manually. I thought that was desired. If you don't do the break-align-symbol override, the time sig will be after the clef on the start of the system. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Request for comments: LilyPond 2.12
Hello everyone, Since most of the horizontal and vertical spacing hacks of Joe have stabilized, I think it is time now to start considering a new stable release. With the current release process, it should be possible to build a new stable release in a matter of days, so the real question, are we in a state for release 2.12? Historically, the criterion for a new stable release is 1. No regressions Currently, the bug tracker does not show any regressions. 2. Significant features. We have plenty: - Completely rewritten page breaking/vertical spacing combo, with skylining spacing and better vertical collision detection - Table of contents, multi paragraph text, page references - Generic microtone support - Doc updates (graham?) - Manual translations: french, spanish, german - More flexible line spanners. - Several performance and resource speedups. 3. no glaring bugs in the new features. I seem to recall that we have a nasty bug in reverting nested properties, but except for that I can't recall anything notable. Comments, ideas? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to deal with Time Signatures horizontal alignment?
Joe Neeman escreveu:
On Tuesday 21 August 2007 20:34, Valentin Villenave wrote:
That being said, do you think it would be a good idea to make
TimeSignature accept the break-alignable-interface?
No, because TimeSignature already accepts an interface
(break-aligned-interface) that determines its horizontal position; it
wouldn't make sense for it to accept another one. The cleanest way of getting
this functionality into the lilypond core, in my opinion, would be to create
a whole new grob class.
I think you are all thinking in too complicated directions.
layout{
\context {
\type Engraver_group
\consists Time_signature_engraver
\consists Axis_group_engraver
\name TimeSig
\override TimeSignature #'font-size = #3
\override TimeSignature #'break-align-symbol = ##f
\override TimeSignature #'X-offset
= #ly:self-alignment-interface::x-aligned-on-self
\override TimeSignature #'self-alignment-X = #0
}
\context {
\Score \accepts TimeSig
}
\context {
\Staff
\remove Time_signature_engraver
}
}
timeSignatures = { \time 2/4 s2 \time 3/4 s2. \time 4/4 s1 }
\score {
\new TimeSig \timeSignatures
\new Staff \relative { c'2 c2. c1 }
\new Staff { a2 a2. a1}
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Re: \rest in \drummode?
Ole Schmidt escreveu: Dear all, is there a way to place a rest (higher) in \drummode? (like with \rest command in normal staffs) \override the staff-position of the Rest, or perhaps using tweak. Untested code follows: \tweak #'staff-position #5 r -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: engraving question
Joe Neeman escreveu: On Saturday 18 August 2007 11:48, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: 2007/8/16, Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm trying to tweak the spacing code, and I've come across a case where I'm not sure what to do. In the attached example, I have a note followed by a clef change followed by a bar line. Given that the clef fits in the space that would be there anyway, should it take up extra space? Any strong opinions (they will be regarded more highly if they come with references, of course)? To follow this up, the default now is to do the tight spacing as suggested by Mark Knoop. To enable looser spacing, I've added a new property to NoteSpacing: \override NoteSpacing #'space-to-barline = ##f will put more space before a clef. I've made the tight spacing the default because it works with both polyphonic and monophonic music. This is good as a temporary solution, but there are very, very few people that know where to find this kind of option, let alone how to modify them effectively. I would welcome some more analysis what the Right Thing for this is. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: engraving question
2007/8/16, Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm trying to tweak the spacing code, and I've come across a case where I'm not sure what to do. In the attached example, I have a note followed by a clef change followed by a bar line. Given that the clef fits in the space that would be there anyway, should it take up extra space? Any strong opinions (they will be regarded more highly if they come with references, of course)? I'm not sure of the answer: we have evidence for the polyphonic cases that it should not take space, but for monophonic music with changes (eg. French horn, cello), I've seen both, and personally think that extra space looks better, provided that there is enough room on the line. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: scaling problem
2007/8/3, Werner LEMBERG [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you want a foolproof solution, define a markup-command, that constructs the brackets, and adjusts lengths with the magstep of font-size. I've done that already (see below). However, I wasn't able to adjust the extra-offset parameter in a scaled way. Can you help? extra-offset is scaled by the staff-space of the StaffSymbol, so you should be able to use \tweak with extra-offset for \vbracket. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: sponsoring inquiry: alignment of syllables which start a melisma
2007/7/27, Kieren MacMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 2007-Jun-4, at 17:08, Mats Bengtsson wrote: As far as I can see from the implementation, the alignment is hardcoded to be #LEFT at the start of a melisma. How much would it cost to sponsor the soft-coding of this value? in Git. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: How to screen-optimize stems
2007/7/20, Rune Zedeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hehe, I found out there is a really simple solution of how to make stems
look nice in acroread.
In all its simplicity, add
\paper {
blot-diameter = 2 \pt
}
:-)
Now all stems appear to have same thickness in acroread.
Unfortunately it does not work with bar-lines, though.
Oh, but you could simply add
\override Score.BarLine #'thickness = #100
problem solved :-)
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Re: file refuses to line or page break
2007/7/19, Nicolas Sceaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]: pageBreak should include a bar check by default. Anyone for a patch? You may want to force a line or page break in the middle of a bar, using the \bar trick. So we should not add a barCheck to pageBreak. I know, but people that need such uncommon constructs can deal with the extra warning. They are fewer than people making mistakes. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Overly thick results from markup with draw-line
2007/7/24, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
Is there a reason the nibbed output of draw-line is almost 20 times
thicker than usual (rather than just 2 times thicker like the rest of
the TextSpanner)?
This is classical typography, evidently!
;)
I think you are have found a bug; congratulations!
(fixed in .28)
%%% EX 1 %%%
\version 2.11.26
\new Staff {
c'4 \startTextSpan
c'4 \stopTextSpan
}
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\override TextSpanner #'bound-details #'right #'text =
#(markup #:draw-line '(0 . -1))
\override TextSpanner #'thickness = #2
}
}
%%% EX 1 %%%
See attached.
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Re: file refuses to line or page break
2007/7/18, Rune Zedeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kieran Coulter skrev: This one really has me stumped! I've tried everything, and the file refuses to either a line or page break at the end of the 2nd last page of the included pdf. You have an error in one of the measures before - so the pageBreak command is located not at the exact point of the bar line but 3/80 of a measure /after/ the bar line. pageBreak should include a bar check by default. Anyone for a patch? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
2007/7/10, Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: To follow this up, I just merged my spacing stuff into the main branch. That means that the new code will be present in version 2.11.28. Once it is released, it would be a big help if people could test the spacing stuff and find bugs. Of course, those of you following git can do so straight away. I'll try to build a new release this week. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Absolutely evenly aligned table of chords ... with plenty of accidentals?
2007/7/10, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED]: (Side question: anyone know of a way to set *only* the (first-note fixed-space . 12.0) pair within the clef's spacing alist, without having to type all those extra pairs in the table?) this is a nested property alist, so it should just work with \override Clef #'space-alist #'ambitus #'(extra-space . 20.0) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mac OS X libguile.17.dylib Trace/BPT Trap error when adding a second voice to piano score
2007/6/25, David Fedoruk [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I should also mention that the error happens so fast after the command has been issued that I don't think lilypond actually had time to parse the code I wrote puzzeling since it worked fine up to that point, That's correct; can you doublecheck that it does this with other files too? Also, which version was the first to exhibit this problem? Does it happen with 2.11.x too? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Double Staff Tablature - No Stems is the Norm
Mats Bengtsson escreveu:
You can easily remove the stems:
\new TabStaff {
\override Stem #'transparent = ##t
a,4\5 c'\2 a\3 e'\1
e\4 c'\2 a\3 e'\1
}
I no nothing about the notation practice for tab staff, but if you are
certain that this is common enough to deserve a place in the
documentation, please see
http://lilypond.org/web/devel/participating/documentation-adding
or add an example to the LSR.
I'm not sure whether that's the whole story; you probably need to remove
the Beam_engraver too.
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Re: Pre-Release: Slave Songs of the United States
2007/6/17, Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For those interested, the build commands are now: $ lilypond-book --output=out/ --process=lilypond --backend=eps \ --formats=pdf -dinclude-eps-fonts -dgs-load-fonts --psfonts slave-songs.tex $ (cd out; pdflatex slave-songs.tex; pdflatex slave-songs.tex; \ cp slave-songs.pdf ../slave-songs.pdf) (I don't know what -dinclude-eps-fonts does, though.) without it, the fonts are not included in the individual EPS files, which used to be useful for going through latex/dvips. However, going through PDF is easier and more robust, but for an individual snippet to be converted to PDF, it must contain fonts, hence the -dinclude-eps-fonts option. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: beginning-of-measure padding value?
Joe Neeman escreveu: On Monday 09 April 2007 20:38, Kieren MacMillan wrote: [ Lilypond 2.11.12 ; Mac OS X 10.4.9 ] Hello, all! In recent versions of Lilypond, I find that the first element of every measure is generally too close to the preceding barline for my taste -- i.e., there isn't enough left-padding on the first note or rest or whatever (n.b., the spacing issue is especially egregious when the first item is an accidental, arpeggio, or other note attachment). I've had some lilypond hacking time recently, so I've been digging into the spacing code. The stuff I'm trying to do is nowhere near complete and I don't yet understand the code fully, but I've put what I have so far in the jneeman branch of the git repository. If anyone is sufficiently motivated and technically able to build lilypond from git, I'd appreciate some feedback on the spacing changes. Awesome that you've been able to get your fingers dirty in the spacing engine. You've breached into one of the last domains of the Han-Wen only code. Probably only the grace-timing code in the iterators is left as the last outhold of sole Han-Wenness in Lily. I'm glad to see that many kludges are disappearing, but a little worried that there might be subtle spacing corrections that disappear because of this. Do pay close attention to the regtest, especially all the spacing-*.ly files. One of the problems of working on the spacing is that it tends to affect all tests, making it more difficult to see the effect of a fix. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Mac OS X libguile.17.dylib Trace/BPT Trap error when adding a second voice to piano score
David Fedoruk escreveu:
Hello:
I am attempting to transcribe a Scarlatti Sonata which I will cross
check with the facsimile edition -- when I get to see it. However, in
bringing in a second voice to the right hand I get this error:
dyld: Symbol not found:
Referenced from:
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../lib//libguile.17.dylib
Expected in:
/Applications/LilyPond.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../lib//libguile.17.dylib
Trace/BPT trap
The suspect code at bar 23 is this:
\version 2.10.25
upper = \relative c'' {
\clef treble
\key e \major
\time 3/4
\key e \minor r8 b''8 \grace a16 g8 fs e d | % Bar 21
{a'4-| a8 a gs fs b d |
\grace b16 c2. | b2. | % Bar 23
fs b \grace a8 gs8 fs e ds% Bar 24
}
lower = \relative c {
\clef bass
\key e \major
\time 3/4
\key e \minor e4 r4 r |% Bar 21
r8 a''8 fs8 ds cs b | % Bar 22
b,2.| % Bar 23
e4 r4 r |% Bar 24
I've successfully coded the first 20 bars, the only thing I've done
different is bring the attempt to bring the second voice in the right
hand. Since the error occurs as soon as I hit enter, I don't think
lilypond has even parsed the file completely.
I'm using Mac OS 10.4.9
this is a very strange error; I'm also missing which symbol isn't
found. Can you run the actual binary from a terminal, and send me the
output?
The binary is in lilypond.app/contents/resource/bin/lilypond
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Re: SVG previews
Keenan Pepper escreveu: On 6/8/07, Keenan Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want Lilypond to produce an SVG file (for uploading to Wikipedia), but I don't want it to be a whole page. I thought lilypond -b svg --preview would do the trick, but apparently those options are incompatible: Does anyone have any suggestions yet? Just upload the png. There are no SVG renderers that usefully handle lily output for this case. Until firefox/inkscape gets proper SVG font support, SVG files won't show music glyphs, except if you have the right version of our music font already installed as OTF font. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: SVG previews
2007/6/18, Keenan Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just upload the png is not an acceptable solution. I can eliminate the font dependency by performing Object to Path in Inkscape, so I guess I just have to crop it manually in Inkscape as well. Still, I shouldn't getting Scheme syntax errors from running Lilypond on a valid input file. Syntax errors indicate a bug that should be fixed. someone has to write the glue code to output the systems individually. If you don't feel like doing this, my suggestion is to set tagline = ##f, and figure out how Inkscape can crop the image automatically. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Suggestion: Alternative ps/pdf link information, alt. Scoreinfo xml file export
2007/6/17, Jonas Nyström [EMAIL PROTECTED] x and y position for the notehead (using some kind of universal unit) note-pitch for the notehead (defining it's pitch, for example midi note) note-duration for the notehead ... Maybe this information could be joined into a query-style string, for example note-info:x=640y=232pitch=64duration=128 That's not a bad idea at all. I'll gladly help anyone who wants to write this feature. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Problem: ragged-last = ##t gives cramped last line
2007/6/16, Jonas Nyström [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I want to use ragged-last = ##t because short examples shouldnt be wider than needed. Problem: When the example use more than one system, the last system sometimes is cramped — to tight formatted when the notes (almost) colliding. In the example below, the second system should break after six bars, just like the first system - shouldn't it? Any ideas how to solve this? Best regards / Jonas \version 2.8.1 there is a faint possibility that this may have changed in the past years; we're at 2.11.26 now. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Pre-Release: Slave Songs of the United States
2007/6/12, Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I am happy to give you a sneak preview to my ambitious music notation project based on Lilypond 2.10, a digital edition of the 1867 song book: very cool Lilypond does an excellent job on these songs, and only few manual tweaks were necessary. Some tweaks may be the result of my lack of understanding of Lilypond internals. The whole book contains 136 songs, each about 1 DIN A5 page on average. The build tree produced by lilypond-book is over 700 MB (!) strong, I suspect because the required fonts are copied into each EPS file (can this be improved?). checkout -dhelp, You probably want to use -dgs-load-fonts and preferably pdflatex. If you're technically inclined, you can run make web logfile and see how we build the documentation. We try to minizime font loads too as it slows down the build. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Pre-Release: Slave Songs of the United States
2007/6/12, Marcus Brinkmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All type-setting of the original 1867 text is finished and in very good shape. Future improvements will be done in other areas, like a new preface, illustrations, MIDI files, etc. This pre-release, although quite usable in its own right, is particularly directed at people who might be willing to take a look at the source code and tell me what I could do better. And a typographic nit: the margins seem rather on the small side. Have you done the page layout yourself? I recommend copying margins from reknowned publications. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: OpenBSD testers needed for LilyPond 2.10.23
Matthias Kilian escreveu: Hi, I don't know wether there are more people than just Matt Jibson and me running LilyPond on OpenBSD, but just in case *you* do (and aren't reading [EMAIL PROTECTED]), please give this a try: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-portsm=117940219518892w=2 Please send any comments and test reports back to me (PM, i.e. offlist). Note that this port is a little zombie wrt guile (still at 1.6) -- i didn't notice any problem with this, though. It will be soon. Lily 2.11 requires GUILE 1.8. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Can Lilypond export separate pdfs?
2007/5/3, Joe Neeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm having trouble following this discussion of lilypond-book being slow -- I've just been putting together a 110 page book of Dowland parts (so about 80 individual 1-2 page pieces from lilypond's point of view), and I was pleasantly surprised at how fast lilypond-book would recreate all the .ly files. I'm not saying I didn't go get a cup of coffee when I had to redo all 80, but I certainly didn't need to do it overnight or anything. 2.10 is definitely a lot faster than 2.0 was. That's funny. Have you been using system-count or restricting where the line and page breaks occur? I think you misread. These are 80 1-2 page pieces, with no combined page breaking, inside a lilypond-book document. Jan did complete rewrite of lp-book in lilypond around version 2.1.20, with improved speed as a result. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: regression test images in Safari
lilypond.org does content negotiation, so that it can optionally serve you lily-image.fr.png if you prefer french language images. It seems that Safari doesn't do content negotiation correctly. That's why I asked you to configure languages. 2007/5/1, Stan Sanderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On May 1, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Stan Sanderson wrote: On May 1, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I suspect this related to language settings. Try setting your preferred languages to english. 2007/5/1, Bruce McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Also tried with last night's WebKit build: http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/WebKit-SVN-r21188.dmg but to no avail. (WebKit is the open-source rendering engine used by Safari) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user Primary language is set (AFAIK!) to English. Text encoding is set to Automatic, but I get the same results with Unicode (UTF-8) and others. Lilypond v2.8 shows the snippets; v2.10, v2.11 does not. Shira (a work in progress trying to be a better Safari) behaves the same way. FireFox (v2.0.0.3) works. Curious. Stan Viewing the source in Safari and comparing v2.10 with v2.8, I note the absence of the suffix .png from the v2.10 images. Is Safari strictly following the code? I know that adding the .png to the src=lily-ref produces the image. Stan -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: regression test images in Safari
I suspect this related to language settings. Try setting your preferred languages to english. 2007/5/1, Bruce McIntyre [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Also tried with last night's WebKit build: http://nightly.webkit.org/builds/WebKit-SVN-r21188.dmg but to no avail. (WebKit is the open-source rendering engine used by Safari) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Varying shape note heads varying by semitone
It would be the coolest if (all) these extensions could happen in grob-property space. This could be done by automatically overriding and reverting grob properties when middleCPosition or tonic context properties change. 2007/4/21, Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As another step toward in my path toward varying notation in LilyPond, I am varying note shapes by semitone. Usually, there are fewer than 12 note heads, but the semitone of the note determine the shape. My current implementation uses a function shapeLayoutFunction which returns an integer, which is an index into the vector shapeNoteStyles. This seems to work. The function description is: Function returning an integer which indexes into shapeNoteStyles vector. It takes an argument of pitch and tonic. Altnernatively, I could define a function which return a note head shape. Does anyone see a good reason to prefer one to the other. The first option has an advantage of using a small function like this: #(define (shapeSemitone pitch tonic) (modulo (ly:pitch-semitones pitch) 12)) plus an already standard vector. The second option has an advantage of everything being included in one variable, but the disadvantage of requiring slightly more complicated functions. For examples, see Twinline or kevin in this page: -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [monique.combescure] mon message d'erreur:
Bom dia pra tudos, this is an interesting error message, but need to have the exact version number of the binary involved. Could this be 2.11.22 ? I did some major restructuring in GUB, which might have messed up some of the binaries. Regards, Han-Wen 2007/4/13, Valentin Villenave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: monique.combescure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 12:19:14 +0200 Subject: mon message d'erreur: Cher collègue Mon message d'erreur de compilation est ERROR: In procedure dynamic-link: ERROR: file: libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-3, message: dlcompat: file \/Users/moniquecombescure/Documents/LilyPond.app.1/Contents/Resources/ bin/../lib/libguile-srfi-srfi-1-v-3.3.dylib\ not found Que dois-je faire? merci d'avance Monique Combescure IPNL, Bât. Paul Dirac, 4 rue Enrico Fermi 69622 VILLEURBANNE Tel: 33 (0)4 72 43 19 63 Fax: 33 (0) 4 72 44 80 04 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [@ Jan and -user: just in case, I'm redirecting this discussion to the French list, but if any English-speaking user has any clue, you're still welcome to answer here...] Bonjour Monique, Votre message nous ayant été transféré par le développeur Jan Nieuwenhuizen, je me suis dit que vous seriez peut-être intéressée d'apprendre qu'il existe une liste de discussion spécialement consacrée aux utilisateurs francophones de LilyPond, à laquelle vous pouvez adresser vos questions (voire vous inscrire le cas échéant); voyez pour cela la page : http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user-fr/ N'oubliez pas, au demeurant, de toujours veiller à préciser votre système d'exploitation (on peut déduire qu'il s'agit ici de Mac OSX, mais quelle version ?) et la version de LilyPond que vous utilisez. Cordialement, Valentin Villenave. ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Why -dshow-available-fonts doesn't list Times Italic
2007/3/30, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maybe we could include fondu in the OS X package and produce (and convert) a list of .dfont resources at install time? Fondu already comes with the OSX package. Someone needs to sit down and write a bit of code to detect the first run and do the expand TTF files procedure for the first run. Patches thoughtfully considered. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: 2.11.21-1 for PPC
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Re: 2.11.21-1 for PPC
2007/3/26, Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is anyone running 2.11.21-1 on a PowerPC. Previous versions have worked but the latest version tells me it can't run a binary file. It's quite well possible that it's not working correctly, as I built this on a different machine than usual. However, I need a more detailed report than this. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: rest merging (willing to sponsor)
2007/3/21, Arvid Grøtting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, in the category for Coding better typography automation, my choir is willing to sponsor (within reason) the coding of automatic rest merging within a staff. The code that controls this is in rest-collision.cc , and it shouldn't be hard to (optionally) delete all but one rest when a special option is set. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
FISL 8 presence!
Hi everyone, as it looking now, I will be at FISL in Porto Alegre, Brazil again this year, as part of the Google team. If you're in the neighborhood, do drop by! http://fisl.softwarelivre.org/8.0/www/ -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Why -dshow-available-fonts doesn't list Times Italic
2007/3/16, Trevor Bača [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Unfortunately I just don't know much of anything, really, about font management on my operating system; it's just a shielded resource in most applications other that Lily. Does anyone see an obviously missing directory in the above output that would explain why I'm getting mostly regular style fonts instead of italic and bold? Mac uses something called dfonts, which mean that all 4 versions of the font come inside one file. Lily will unpack the right font from the dfont, but fontconfig doesn't look inside them. Solution: use fondu to extract fonts to separate .ttfs yourself, and put them in the ~/.fonts directory. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Center-aligning objects in Scheme
2007/3/12, Maximilian Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As I wrote in the last email, I am still uncertain if this is the most straightforward way to do it, and there might be somewhat simpler solutions. So I will wait a few day for any of the people who are more into it to make comments. If there is no further reply I will submit it to LSR with a short explanation of how (I think) it works. don't forget to replace the constants with appropriate vairables (X , Y , LEFT , RIGHT etc.) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond is hosed! Any suggestions?
Darren Nelsen escreveu: Here you go! I've tried to install about ten different versions of LP since this happened, but none work now. I was at 2.11.19, but wanted to go with a stable version, and when I installed 2.10.19, that's when things blew! I'm currently on 2.10.13 (but I've gone back as low as the 2.8 branch with no luck.) Thanks! I don't understand: are you saying, that after being successful with 2.10.13, installing 2.10.19, erasing .19, and reinstalling .13, then .13 doesn't work anymore? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond is hosed! Any suggestions?
Darren Nelsen escreveu: Not exactly. Here's the sequence of events: I was on a working version of 2.8. Fine. Upgraded to 2.11. Fine. Noticed some formatting issues on 2.11. Went for 2.10.19... got the font errors and it wouldn't generate. Now nothing works. No matter what version of LilyPond I install, none will now work. Someone suggested using 2.10.13, so I installed that. It's doesn't work. It should work to go back to a version that previously works. It's possible that some kind of font-cache corruption happened in the .19 release, which is retained if you up/downgrade. This should be fixable by deleting ~/.font* (use with care if you have fonts stored in ~/.fonts ) See what was changed recently with ls -ltra ~/ -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: LilyPond is hosed! Any suggestions?
Han-Wen Nienhuys escreveu: Darren Nelsen escreveu: Not exactly. Here's the sequence of events: I was on a working version of 2.8. Fine. Upgraded to 2.11. Fine. Noticed some formatting issues on 2.11. Went for 2.10.19... got the font errors and it wouldn't generate. Now nothing works. No matter what version of LilyPond I install, none will now work. Someone suggested using 2.10.13, so I installed that. It's doesn't work. It should work to go back to a version that previously works. It's possible that some kind of font-cache corruption happened in the .19 release, which is retained if you up/downgrade. This should be fixable by deleting ~/.font* (use with care if you have fonts stored in ~/.fonts ) See what was changed recently with ls -ltra ~/ also, it might be possible for files to persist called ~/.lilypond* if that all doesn't work, try running FC_DEBUG=255 lilypond --verbose to see what exactly the thing is complaining of -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: \flageolet too big
Werner LEMBERG escreveu:
but if you change the syntax it work good
F = ^\markup { \fontsize #-3 \musicglyph #scripts.flageolet }
Thanks. However, this is no longer an `articulation' because of the
`^'.
Han-Wen?
\tweak
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Re: LilyPond is hosed! Any suggestions?
Darren Michael Nelsen escreveu: After installing the Mac OS X Intel v2.10 branch, LilyPond died! Completely hosed. I got the font errors that others have reported, and since then nothing works. I've tried installing lots of other versions from the 2.11 and 2.8 branches. Nothing! None of them generate now. Help! I can't live without LilyPond. :) downgrade to an earlier version. I'll post a 2.10 which should fix this. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: fontconfig
Pedro Rebelo escreveu: Dear all I've had version 2.10.15 working fine on os x and since I've installed later versions I get the following error Preprocessing graphical objects...No fonts found; this probably means that the fontconfig library is not correctly configured. You may need to edit the fonts.conf configuration file. More information about fontconfig can be found in the fontconfig(3) manual page and on http://fontconfig.org any hints on how to go about fixing this? can you pinpoint the exact version that stopped working? (.16 is unlikely. We did change Fontconfig in 2.10.17) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: A-Play - a New Shell for LilyPond
[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: We have the following statement: A-Play is a freeware GNU documentation or application according to your liking. CAn you clarify? Does this mean that the source for A-Play is available? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond info file compilation
Quentin Spencer escreveu: I'm the lilypond packager for Fedora, and recently received a bug report (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=225410) that the lilypond entries in the main info file /usr/share/info are trying to find the info files in /usr/share/info/lilypond. If I just want them all installed in /usr/share/info, is there some configure or make option that I can invoke so that the info files are built this way to start with. Nothing I have tried seems to work other than running sed -e s,lilypond/,, -i *.info on the files before they are packaged, but this is kind of an ugly solution. Quentin Hi, Lilypond uses images in the info files. You should be installing the info files with it's accompanying 400-odd PNG files. Then, putting it into a subdirectory does make sense. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: File fails prooperty type check
Cameron Horsburgh escreveu: Hi folks, I'm currently cleaning up a few files in the LSR, and I've come across an error that I don't know what to do with. (Please bear with me -- I'll have a few of these over the next few days! The LSR is, of course, full of constructs that used to be great ideas.) The file I'm currently working on gives the error: warning: can't find property type-check for breakable' (backend-type?). perhaps a typing error? warning: doing assignment anyway in response to the line: \override Glissando #'breakable = ##t #'breakable isn't listed in the Program Reference and the output isn't affected if I comment it out. Am I right in thinking it's safe to delete that line? 2.11 -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Catching error messages
Cameron Horsburgh escreveu: On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 03:13:36PM -0800, Graham Percival wrote: Cameron Horsburgh wrote: On Sun, Feb 11, 2007 at 11:40:45AM -0800, Graham Percival wrote: Cameron Horsburgh wrote: I'd love to be able to specify a log file for either each file or the entire run. Does this exist? If not, does anyone have any idea how I might be able to do this? for f in *.ly ; do lilypond $f $f.log ; done; Something like that, at least. Yeah, that's what I tried first. It seems the output is on stderr, not stdout. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html lilypond $f $f.log Yeah, I eventually got that, or something pretty close. It can be pretty useful. I might write a page for the docs regarding batch processing. The main problem, of course, is that this is OS dependent. If I were to do that, where would be the best place to put it? Two places come to mind -- first, 4.1.3 might be expanded to suggest using don't; -dlog-file=foo is the recommended method. -dseparate-log-files if you need multiple logs. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: get an accidental to not print
Adam Good escreveu: Hi all, sorry if this has been addressed already, it's hard for me to find any reference in the archive. ! = print the accidental manually ? = print a cautionary accidental what about _don't_ print an accidental? like i write cis but don't want it to print the accidental? I think this is not possible; might be mistaken though. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block
Trevor Bača escreveu: (If I'm getting something factually incorrect, somebody please correct me.) No, this is correct, albeit a bit more wordy than how I would phrase it. :-) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block
Trevor Bača escreveu:
On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Trevor Bača escreveu:
Right now both list 1 and list 2 will just be put together into the
outside-of-score (\paper) bucket.
But it seems that may list 1 is really concerned with the *the layout
of music on the page* whereas list 2 is concerned with *adding headers
and footers outside the music*.
So does it make sense to divide list 1 and list 2? And if so, with what
names?
I think this doesn't make sense. There are two output-def objects with
nested
scope. Variables that by their nature have \book-wide effect, go into
the outer
scope, variables that are score-wide may be put in the inner scope.
If that confuses you, it might be a better idea to rename \layout and
\paper to
better reflect this.
Another point of clarification:
So this means there are really three levels of scope at which these
settings can be made ...
1. at score level (which is most specific)
2. at book level (which is intermediate), and
3. at top level
... as reflected in the following example:
%%% BEGIN 3-LEVELS OF SCOPE %%%
\version 2.11.16
\paper { indent = #100 }
\book {
\paper { indent = #50 }
\score {
\new Staff { c'1 }
\layout { indent = #0 }
}
}
%%% END %%%
If I comment out the score-level indent, then the book-level indent
will take over. If I comment out both the score-level and book-level
indents, then the top-level indent will take over.
No, the \book level indent overwrites the toplevel
\paper { indent = #75 }
\book {
\paper { indent = #50 }
}
really maens
$defaultpaperblock = \paper { \$defaultpaperblock indent = #75 }
\book {
\paper { \$defaultpaperblock indent = #50 }
}
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Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block
Trevor Bača escreveu: Note that this is not a zero-code proposal, however: the idea of collapsing \paper and \layout is a pretty serious structural change, even though I think it makes extremely good sense. It's actually not. Inside the code it's already implemented like that. The difference between paper and layout is that paper has a is-paper = ##t setting. What you're really losing is the ability to set a default for the \layout block. Perhaps if we wind up wanting to collapse \layout and \paper, then we can simply rip \context blocks out and leave them as free-standing elements within a \score. But this is a sidenote until we consider whether collapsing \paper and \layout even makes sense.] No, I think that in this case, the \context definitions have to go into \settings as well, ie. in the \book wide settings. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block
Mats Bengtsson escreveu: When it comes to syntax, I just want to remind everybody that we used to have a single directive \paper corresponding to the current \layout and \book, until version 2.4, but it was split into the two in an attempt to clarify what you could do where. See http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.4/Documentation/topdocs/out-www/NEWS.html This was not because of clarification, rather to have a place to put page settings in. 2.4 also was the 1st release to have page breaking. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: lilypond-book --pdf doesn't work for me
Laura Conrad escreveu: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/lilypond/test$ ls out/lily-699cf55d03-1* out/lily-699cf55d03-10.eps out/lily-699cf55d03-16.eps out/lily-699cf55d03-11.eps out/lily-699cf55d03-17.eps out/lily-699cf55d03-12.eps out/lily-699cf55d03-18.eps out/lily-699cf55d03-13.eps out/lily-699cf55d03-19.eps out/lily-699cf55d03-14.eps out/lily-699cf55d03-1.eps out/lily-699cf55d03-15.eps [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src/lilypond/test$ So it looks like my version of pdflatex isn't finding .eps files with no extension. But when I add the extension, pdflatex says: ! LaTeX Error: Unknown graphics extension: .eps. My impression is that pdflatex expects graphics as a png, jpg, or pdf, not as an eps file. Is anyone running Linux using the --pdf option to lilypond-book, and if so can you send me a sample .lytex file? you need to have --pdf as an option to lilypond too. Isn't it doing this automatically ? -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block
Trevor Bača escreveu: I wouldn't ask except for the fact that I've now been laying out score very successfully with lily for going on two years and I still have to stop and ask myself Hmm ... I'm wanting to pad systems on the page so that they lay out more loosely. So that concerns layout and I'll look for settings over here in the \layout block. Oh wait. Settings for system layout live in the \paper block ... the \layout block only affects what's in a score. Page layout (margins, titles, etc) fall outside that and therefore are in the \paper block. Perhaps better names can be found for paper/layout; suggestions appreciated. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block
Trevor Bača escreveu:
On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Trevor Bača escreveu:
I wouldn't ask except for the fact that I've now been laying out score
very successfully with lily for going on two years and I still have to
stop and ask myself Hmm ... I'm wanting to pad systems on the page so
that they lay out more loosely. So that concerns layout and I'll look
for settings over here in the \layout block. Oh wait. Settings for
system layout live in the \paper block ...
the \layout block only affects what's in a score. Page layout (margins,
titles, etc) fall outside that and therefore are in the \paper block.
Perhaps better names can be found for paper/layout; suggestions
appreciated.
Hmmm.
Just thinking out loud here ... so there's an inside-of-score /
outside-of-score dichotomy going on here. I don't think I had ever
realized that ...
So that means that ragged-right (which currently lives in \layout) is
perceived as inside-of-score, whereas ragged-bottom (which currently
lives in \paper) is outside-of-score?
yes. However, \layout settings default to what is in the \paper block,
so ragged-right may also be defined in the \paper{} block.
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Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block
Trevor Bača escreveu: Right now both list 1 and list 2 will just be put together into the outside-of-score (\paper) bucket. But it seems that may list 1 is really concerned with the *the layout of music on the page* whereas list 2 is concerned with *adding headers and footers outside the music*. So does it make sense to divide list 1 and list 2? And if so, with what names? I think this doesn't make sense. There are two output-def objects with nested scope. Variables that by their nature have \book-wide effect, go into the outer scope, variables that are score-wide may be put in the inner scope. If that confuses you, it might be a better idea to rename \layout and \paper to better reflect this. -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen LilyPond Software Design -- Code for Music Notation http://www.lilypond-design.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
