Re: note head direction not automatically rearranged for two adjacent pitches when two voices are used instead of a chord
I did try \partCombine but it doesn't work for me. I need a more manual
control because of subtle differences between the two voices (e.g. grace
notes and voice-specific ties and slurs). For example, the notes in the
example below are not auto-merged as chords because of these differences.
instrumentOne = {
\time 3/4
\relative c'' { \partial 4 gis4( e'2. dis) c8[ d e \acciaccatura g f g f] }
}
instrumentTwo = {
\time 3/4
\relative c'' { \partial 4 gis4~ gis2. fisis e8[ f g a b a] }
}
<<
\new Staff \partCombine \instrumentOne \instrumentTwo
>>
On Tue, May 24, 2022 at 9:46 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote:
>
>
> Le 24/05/2022 à 14:43, Jean Abou Samra a écrit :
> > Le 24/05/2022 à 13:36, Soo Lee a écrit :
> >> I isolated these notes to create a tiny example, but the context
> >> suggests that it makes more sense to view them as two voices. This is
> >> a Chopin piece and unlike e.g. Bach, two voices often are expressed
> >> like a chord. I wanted to avoid going back and forth between one
> >> voice and two voices too often.
> >> I guess it is possible to just use a chord in this case. I'll try to
> >> think about other work-arounds. However, I think an ideal behavior
> >> would still be to automatically rearrange the note head direction in
> >> a case like this.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't think this syntax is the right tool for your
> > purpose. With \new Voice, you're telling LilyPond that
> > you want separate voices. With \voiceOne and \voiceTwo,
> > you specify stem directions for both voices. Then, with
> > \stemUp, you kind of contradict what you just said. It's
> > tricky for LilyPond to interpret this input. Rather, I
> > suspect you want to use the part combining feature in
> > order to merge notes in one single stem when the rhythm
> > is the same.
> >
> >
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation/multiple-voices.html#automatic-part-combining
> >
> >
> > Jean
> >
>
>
> To expand: consider
>
> \version "2.22.2"
>
> \new Staff <<
>\new Voice { \voiceOne g''8 8 8 8 }
>\new Voice { \voiceTwo \once \stemUp a,8 a'8 \once \stemUp a,8 a'8 }
> >>
>
>
> If the \stemUp made the stems merge, this use case would no longer work.
>
> Jean
>
>
Re: fingering of a grace note overlaps with beam
Thank you!
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 12:51 AM Martín Rincón Botero <
martinrinconbot...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Soo,
>
> this seems to be caused by the fact that there's no outside-staff-priority
> set for Fingerings (see https://gitlab.com/lilypond/lilypond/-/issues/6346).
> Setting it apparently to whatever value fixes your problem for now.
>
> \relative c'' {
>
>
> \override Fingering.outside-staff-priority = 0
>
>
> g8[ \acciaccatura b-5 a g]
>
> }
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martín.
>
> www.martinrinconbotero.com
>
>
> On May 22, 2022 at 3:17 PM, > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> In the example below, the fingering on the grace note B does not show well
> because it overlaps with the beam. I do want to keep the stems up and the
> fingering up because there will be another voice. What is the best way to
> avoid this overlap? Thank you!
>
> \relative c'' {
> g8[ \acciaccatura b-5 a g]
> }
>
> Best,
> Soo
>
>
Re: note head direction not automatically rearranged for two adjacent pitches when two voices are used instead of a chord
I isolated these notes to create a tiny example, but the context suggests
that it makes more sense to view them as two voices. This is a Chopin piece
and unlike e.g. Bach, two voices often are expressed like a chord. I
wanted to avoid going back and forth between one voice and two voices too
often.
I guess it is possible to just use a chord in this case. I'll try to think
about other work-arounds. However, I think an ideal behavior would still be
to automatically rearrange the note head direction in a case like this.
On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 12:40 AM Jean Abou Samra wrote:
> Le 22/05/2022 à 12:33, Soo Lee a écrit :
> > \new Staff
> > <<
> > \new Voice = "first"
> > { \voiceOne g'4 }
> > \new Voice= "second"
> > { \voiceTwo \stemUp f'4 }
> > >>
> > This example shows G and F note heads are drawn in an overlapping way.
> > I did not want to use a chord but wanted them to be merged to look
> > like a chord. Is there an option to do this?
> > Thank you!
>
>
> This sounds like an XY question to me. What is the reason for
> not using a chord construct if the goal is to obtain a chord?
>
> Best,
> Jean
>
>
fingering of a grace note overlaps with beam
Hi,
In the example below, the fingering on the grace note B does not show well
because it overlaps with the beam. I do want to keep the stems up and the
fingering up because there will be another voice. What is the best way to
avoid this overlap? Thank you!
\relative c'' {
g8[ \acciaccatura b-5 a g]
}
Best,
Soo
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note head direction not automatically rearranged for two adjacent pitches when two voices are used instead of a chord
\new Staff<<\new Voice = "first" { \voiceOne g'4 }\new Voice=
"second" { \voiceTwo \stemUp f'4 }>>
This example shows G and F note heads are drawn in an overlapping way.
I did not want to use a chord but wanted them to be merged to look
like a chord. Is there an option to do this?
Thank you!
Best,
Soo
