I'd like to set fingeringOrientations once for the whole \book.
In a book with guitar music I'd like to position the fingering numbers
at the left sides of the notes.
I already found out that notes have to be written as chords, i.e.
, and tried to put
\set fingeringOrientations = #('left') in the layout block, which didn't work.
Then tried the \score block, which didn't work either.
It is as if I can only set the fingering orientations inside every
newly created staff throughout the whole book.
Is this true, or did I just not find out how to do it properly?
Thanks.
percussion notation standard in Lilypond
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Re: Is it possible to put alternatives inside repeats?
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 15:48:35 -0600
David Wright <lily...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri 09 Dec 2016 at 20:40:01 (+0100), Simon Albrecht wrote:
> > On 09.12.2016 10:22, list_lilypond wrote:
> > >inside the repeat there are alternatives.
> > >
> > >As normally the \alternative{} syntax is put outside the
> > >\repeat{}, I really wonder whether this is possible at all.
> > >If possible in some other way, could someone please be so kind to
> > >point out how to repeat with embedded alternatives without
> > >rewriting all?
> >
> > The available implementation of \repeat doesn’t allow any other use
> > of \alternative than immediately _after_ the repeated expression. So
> > it seems you’ll have to either
> >
> > – split the repeat up into several repeats (and relocate stuff so
> > that the alternative at the beginning becomes an alternative at the
> > end
> > – write it out entirely – that might really reduce confusion for the
> > reader, except in Reich-esque pattern music,
> > – or fake the appearance by setting the context property
> > repeatCommands. There is an example in
> > <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/snippets/repeats#repeats-volta-text-markup-using-repeatcommands>.
> > So you can do something like the attached. I’d advise to close the
> > volta brackets for the 2. alternatives _inside_ the repeat, but I
> > don’t know how. Anyone?
>
> I used \allowVoltaHook in
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2015-10/msg00404.html
> but it has its downside as it seems unresettable.
>
> Cheers,
> David.
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Yes, I think I can do that.
I'll give it a try.
Thanks David!
Joe
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Re: Is it possible to put alternatives inside repeats?
Thanks Simon, for your reply.
Joe ;)
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 20:40:01 +0100
Simon Albrecht <simon.albre...@mail.de> wrote:
> Hello anonymous guy (or gal…),
>
>
> On 09.12.2016 10:22, list_lilypond wrote:
> > inside the repeat there are alternatives.
> >
> > As normally the \alternative{} syntax is put outside the \repeat{},
> > I really wonder whether this is possible at all.
> > If possible in some other way, could someone please be so kind to
> > point out how to repeat with embedded alternatives without
> > rewriting all?
>
> The available implementation of \repeat doesn’t allow any other use
> of \alternative than immediately _after_ the repeated expression. So
> it seems you’ll have to either
>
> – split the repeat up into several repeats (and relocate stuff so
> that the alternative at the beginning becomes an alternative at the
> end – write it out entirely – that might really reduce confusion for
> the reader, except in Reich-esque pattern music,
> – or fake the appearance by setting the context property
> repeatCommands. There is an example in
> <http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/snippets/repeats#repeats-volta-text-markup-using-repeatcommands>.
>
> So you can do something like the attached. I’d advise to close the
> volta brackets for the 2. alternatives _inside_ the repeat, but I
> don’t know how. Anyone?
>
> Best, Simon
>
>
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Re: Is it possible to put alternatives inside repeats?
On Fri, 9 Dec 2016 09:22:50 +
list_lilypond <list_lilyp...@infopower.nl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> what I want is something like:
Sorry, typo, this had to be:
\repeat volta 2 {
\alternative{
{ a | }
{ b | }
}
c | d | e | f | g |
\alternative{
{ b | }
{ c | }
}
d | e | f | g |
}
\alternative{
{ b }
{ c }
}
> So inside the repeat there are alternatives.
>
> As normally the \alternative{} syntax is put outside the \repeat{}, I
> really wonder whether this is possible at all.
> If possible in some other way, could someone please be so kind to
> point out how to repeat with embedded alternatives without rewriting
> all?
>
> Thanks
>
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Is it possible to put alternatives inside repeats?
Hi,
what I want is something like:
\repeat volta 2 {
\alternative{
{ a | }
{ b | }
}
c | d | e | f | g |
\alternative{
{ b | }
{ c | }
d | e | f | g |
}
\alternative{
{ b }
{ c }
}
So inside the repeat there are alternatives.
As normally the \alternative{} syntax is put outside the \repeat{}, I
really wonder whether this is possible at all.
If possible in some other way, could someone please be so kind to point
out how to repeat with embedded alternatives without rewriting all?
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Re: strange phenomenon from guitar bends snippet
It's working here. Nothing special done yet. Except that commenting out all the lines with \once \override Tab* gets rid of the spurious TabStaffs in the output. regards, Joe On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 00:19:02 +0100 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-12-29 16:24 GMT+01:00 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: I think that it happens because it assumes that you want to use a TabStaff context. Also, Marc Hohl recommended me (in a private email) to use voice contexts or you may have some problems. I'll add it to the README on github. Finally, there are issues when a bend occurs at a line break. Very annoying because it happens all of a sudden as the page formatting changes. Harm sent me a modified version of the \bendOn function, which seems to work fine on my files. I intended to test it more but I think that I'd better push it to github so others (including you) can test and report any problem. I'll do it tonight. done: https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/tree/267ea8df747289d8acd8418961156dd7de65aaa8/notation-snippets/guitar-string-bending Joe, please test the (slightly) new definition.ily file. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
strange phenomenon from guitar bends snippet
I'm trying to write out Alvin Lee's (phenomenal) guitar solo from
his Woodstock performance of I'm going home with 10 Years After, and
for the bends got the guitar-string-bending notation-snippet
http://3.hidemyass.com/ip-1/encoded/czovL2dpdGh1Yi5jb20vb3BlbmxpbHlsaWIvb3BlbmxpbHlsaWIvYmxvYi9tYXN0ZXIvbm90YXRpb24tc25pcHBldHMvZ3VpdGFyLXN0cmluZy1iZW5kaW5nL2RlZmluaXRpb25zLmlseQ%3D%3D
However, after invocation of the snippet (see .ly file attached) I get
two TAB 'phenomena' in the pdf output file (see .pdf file attached).
Can anyone guide me on how to prevent/remove those?
Thanks,
Joe
\version 2.19.15
%\include bend.ly
%\include notation-snippets/guitar-string-bending/definitions.ily
\include notation-snippets_guitar-string-bending_definitions.ily
\header {
title = I'm going home
composer = Alvin Lee, 10 Years After
}
melody = \relative c'' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
\partial 4. a8 c8. d16 |
\once \override Glissando #'minimum-length = #5
\once \override Glissando #'springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
\once \override Glissando #'extra-dy = #-0.5
\times 2/3 { dis8\glissando d( c) } d8. a16 d8. a16 c8. d16 |
c4 a8. g16 \autoBeamOff a8 a8 \autoBeamOn \times 2/3 {c8 e fis} |
a8. a16 c8. dis16 d8. c16 \times 2/3 {d8 c a} c4 a8. g16 a4 c4 |
\times 4/6 {dis8[ c d c a c]} \times 4/6 {dis[ c d c a c]}
dis c gis g e g
\times 2/3 {bis8\glissando b c}
g2( a) a, \glissando b a~ a b d4( e\2) a( g) \bendOn a( g) \bendOff
}
\score {
\melody %\new Staff
% \layout { }
% \midi { }
}
i_m_going_home.pdf
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Re: strange phenomenon from guitar bends snippet
OMG! Did I really use hidemyass.com for that snippet? :)
Ok, I put the voice context in place.
I don't know whether I did that the way you were aiming at, because the
'TAB' phenomena are still there.
See attachments.
regards,
Joe
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 16:24:31 +0100
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-12-29 14:05 GMT+01:00 list_lilyp...@infopower.nl:
I'm trying to write out Alvin Lee's (phenomenal) guitar solo from
his Woodstock performance of I'm going home with 10 Years After, and
for the bends got the guitar-string-bending notation-snippet
http://3.hidemyass.com/ip-1/encoded/czovL2dpdGh1Yi5jb20vb3BlbmxpbHlsaWIvb3BlbmxpbHlsaWIvYmxvYi9tYXN0ZXIvbm90YXRpb24tc25pcHBldHMvZ3VpdGFyLXN0cmluZy1iZW5kaW5nL2RlZmluaXRpb25zLmlseQ%3D%3D
However, after invocation of the snippet (see .ly file attached) I
get two TAB 'phenomena' in the pdf output file (see .pdf file
attached).
Can anyone guide me on how to prevent/remove those?
Hi Joe
I think that it happens because it assumes that you want to use a
TabStaff context.
Also, Marc Hohl recommended me (in a private email) to use voice
contexts or you may have some problems. I'll add it to the README on
github.
Finally, there are issues when a bend occurs at a line break. Very
annoying because it happens all of a sudden as the page formatting
changes. Harm sent me a modified version of the \bendOn function,
which seems to work fine on my files.
I intended to test it more but I think that I'd better push it to
github so others (including you) can test and report any problem.
I'll do it tonight.
\version 2.19.15
\include notation-snippets_guitar-string-bending_definitions.ily
\header {
title = I'm going home
composer = Alvin Lee, 10 Years After
}
melody = \relative c'' {
\clef treble
\key c \major
\time 4/4
\partial 4. a8 c8. d16 |
\once \override Glissando #'minimum-length = #5
\once \override Glissando #'springs-and-rods = #ly:spanner::set-spacing-rods
\once \override Glissando #'extra-dy = #-0.5
\times 2/3 { dis8\glissando d( c) } d8. a16 d8. a16 c8. d16 |
c4 a8. g16 \autoBeamOff a8 a8 \autoBeamOn \times 2/3 {c8 e fis} |
a8. a16 c8. dis16 d8. c16 \times 2/3 {d8 c a} c4 a8. g16 a4 c4 |
\times 4/6 {dis8[ c d c a c]} \times 4/6 {dis[ c d c a c]}
dis c gis g e g
\times 2/3 {bis8\glissando b c}
g2( a) a, \glissando b a~ a b d4( e\2) a( g) \bendOn a( g) \bendOff
}
\score {
\new Staff {
\new Voice {
\melody
}
}
\layout { }
% \midi { }
}
i_m_going_home_01.pdf
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Re: strange phenomenon from guitar bends snippet
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:22:40 +0100
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
My reply was actually: AFAIK you **must** use a TabStaff / TabVoice
I understood your reply as a possible explanation for the unwanted
behaviour of the snippet, sorry for the misunderstanding.
Actually you did write: I think that it happens because it assumes
that you want to use a TabStaff context.
And as I indeed didn't want the Tab, the snippet assumed
wrongly...
and I sent a file with this score block:
Yes, thanks, it came in after me receiving your 1st email and replying
to that.
\score {
\new StaffGroup
\new Voice { \clef treble_8 \melody }
\new TabVoice { \clef moderntab \melody }
\layout {
\omit StringNumber
\context {
\StaffGroup
\override StaffGrouper.staff-staff-spacing.padding = #5
}
}
}
Your file works perfectly, thanks!
However, I learned guitar the classical way (arrogance not intended)
and never use the tabulature notation.
So indeed: I really wanted just a staff without tabulature.
Maybe if you change the \bendOn and \bendOff definitions and remove
the lines where TabVoice is used it _might_work.
But I won't test it since I want to use TabStaff.
While trying to work out the solo I'll take the 'phenomenon' for
granted as the tabulature will only confuse my reading. Maybe when finished
I'll try to tweak it, but given my very limited
understanding of the lilypond language I'm not confident that I'd be
successful in that.
Thanks a lot for your help,
Joe
BTW: If you'd reply directly TO the list and incidently (B)CC the
person you'd like to address directly, then it's easier for me (and I
take it for others too) to reply without having to retype the list's
address.
regards
2014-12-29 17:02 GMT+01:00 list_lilyp...@infopower.nl:
OMG! Did I really use hidemyass.com for that snippet? :)
Ok, I put the voice context in place.
I don't know whether I did that the way you were aiming at, because
the 'TAB' phenomena are still there.
See attachments.
regards,
Joe
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 16:24:31 +0100
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-12-29 14:05 GMT+01:00 list_lilyp...@infopower.nl:
I'm trying to write out Alvin Lee's (phenomenal) guitar solo
from his Woodstock performance of I'm going home with 10 Years
After, and for the bends got the guitar-string-bending
notation-snippet
http://3.hidemyass.com/ip-1/encoded/czovL2dpdGh1Yi5jb20vb3BlbmxpbHlsaWIvb3BlbmxpbHlsaWIvYmxvYi9tYXN0ZXIvbm90YXRpb24tc25pcHBldHMvZ3VpdGFyLXN0cmluZy1iZW5kaW5nL2RlZmluaXRpb25zLmlseQ%3D%3D
However, after invocation of the snippet (see .ly file
attached) I get two TAB 'phenomena' in the pdf output file
(see .pdf file attached).
Can anyone guide me on how to prevent/remove those?
Hi Joe
I think that it happens because it assumes that you want to use a
TabStaff context.
Also, Marc Hohl recommended me (in a private email) to use voice
contexts or you may have some problems. I'll add it to the README
on github.
Finally, there are issues when a bend occurs at a line break. Very
annoying because it happens all of a sudden as the page formatting
changes. Harm sent me a modified version of the \bendOn function,
which seems to work fine on my files.
I intended to test it more but I think that I'd better push it to
github so others (including you) can test and report any problem.
I'll do it tonight.
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Re: strange phenomenon from guitar bends snippet
True. Me too, I started from 2.16 and got that output. Which made me
upgrade to 2.18 and then to 2.19.15, where it still appears.
regards,
Joe
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 23:20:49 +0100
Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote:
Il giorno lun 29 dic 2014 alle 19:11, Thomas Morley
thomasmorle...@gmail.com ha scritto:
Look at the output from:
m = c e g4\arpeggio
mus = {
\override Voice.Arpeggio.color = #red
\override TabVoice.Arpeggio.color = #red
\m
}
\new TabStaff \new TabVoice \mus
\new Staff \new Voice { \clef G_8 \mus }
The overrides, one for Voice, one for TabVoice, results in some
spurious context-initialization in the Staff/Voice but not in the
TabStaff/TabVoice.
See attached .png.
That let me think some context-settings could probably avoid the
problem. I wasn't able to figure it out, though.
Not sure if it's a bug, maybe an enhancement-request.
But I get the same output on 2.18.2 and 2.16.2.
I've reworked your example to make it more clear and backward
compatible with 2.16:
\version 2.16.0
mus = {
\override Voice.NoteHead #'color = #red
\override TabVoice.TabNoteHead #'color = #red
c e g4\arpeggio
}
\new TabStaff \new TabVoice \mus
\new Staff \new Voice { \clef G_8 \mus }
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Re: strange phenomenon from guitar bends snippet
On Tue, 30 Dec 2014 00:19:02 +0100 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-12-29 16:24 GMT+01:00 Federico Bruni fedel...@gmail.com: I think that it happens because it assumes that you want to use a TabStaff context. Also, Marc Hohl recommended me (in a private email) to use voice contexts or you may have some problems. I'll add it to the README on github. Finally, there are issues when a bend occurs at a line break. Very annoying because it happens all of a sudden as the page formatting changes. Harm sent me a modified version of the \bendOn function, which seems to work fine on my files. I intended to test it more but I think that I'd better push it to github so others (including you) can test and report any problem. I'll do it tonight. done: https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/tree/267ea8df747289d8acd8418961156dd7de65aaa8/notation-snippets/guitar-string-bending Joe, please test the (slightly) new definition.ily file. I'll use your snippet next time when working on the music. I assume you want me to check the behaviour over a line break. Anything else? Your reference to the manual re the spurious staff is excellent. Again, when the work is done and I have more time I'll try to comment out the TabVoice override commands to see if the TabStaff attempts will disappear. regards, Joe ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
glissando to a nearby modified pitch doesn't always work inside a triplet
I'm new here and don't know if I can send attachments, so I'll try some
code with proza:
\version 2.16.2
\relative c' {
% The following doesn't show the (guitar) slide
% that I need in this triplet:
\times 2/3 { dis'8\glissando[ d( c)] }
% It's not that the slide is obscured by the d-line:
\times 2/3 { cis8\glissando[ c( b)] }
% And it's not that the slide doesn't work at all,
% because here it does:
% \times 2/3 { e\glissando d( c) }
% I think it's because of the modifier in d#:
\times 2/3 { e\glissando dis( c)}
% Although 'coming from below' works:
\times 2/3 { e,\glissando dis'( c)}
}
Play this in your 2.16.2, then you'll see what I mean.
My OS does not let me upgrade yet to 2.18, that's why I'm using 2.16.2.
My guess is that there is not enough space between the two notes where
the glissando needs to be because the pitch modifier occupies so much
horizontal space that lilypond 'decides' that the lenght of the line
indicating the glissando isn't enough to be visible so that it would
be better to drop the glissando altogether.
Any hints how to get this triplet show the intended slide and pull off?
Thanks,
Joe
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