Re: Dynamic marks and vertical space

[Timofey Misarenkov]

On Sat, 27 Aug 2016 02:29:15 +0200
Malte Meyn  wrote:


> Instead of extra-offset, use X-offset and Y-offset (in this case, 
> X-offset is sufficient). Are you sure it’s a "ff" and a "p" (separated) 
> and not a "ffp" (combined)? Because there is no \ffp command in 
> LilyPond, you can create one:
>ffp = #(make-dynamic-script "ffp")
> Or use make-dynamic-script directly (see below).

Thank you! X-offset do great.


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Re: Dynamic marks and vertical space

[Cynthia Karl]

> On Aug 27, 2016, at 02:24:41 +0300,Timofey Misarenkov wrote:
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 02:24:41 +0300
> From: Timofey Misarenkov <a...@yandex.ru>
> Subject: Dynamic marks and vertical space
> 
> The sample code below has one flaw: it wastes too much vertical space
> due to \ff. In the real case its even worse, because of  has
> duration of 1 and uses more space. I'm trying to move \ff to the left,
> but unsuccessfully. (DynamicText.extra-offset can help to move, but
> vertical space waste remains the same. And using same approach to move
> \p and hairpin do not helps either.)
> 
> So, the question is: how to make \ff to appear at the left of s ?
> 
> \version "2.18.2"
> 
> \score {
> \new GrandStaff <<
>   \new Staff = "up"  \relative c' {
> \clef treble
> 4-> \repeat unfold 12 {<a' d fis a>16-.}
>   }
>   \new Dynamics = "dynamics" { s8\ff s8\p\< s2 s8. s16\! |}

Change the above line to:

  \new Dynamics = "dynamics" { 
  s8-\tweak X-offset #-4 \ff s8-\tweak X-offset #1 \p\< s2 s8. s16\! |
  }

>   \new Staff = "down" \relative c, {
> \clef bass
> 4-> \repeat unfold 12 {<a' d fis a>16-.}
>   }
>>> 
> \layout {}
> }


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Re: Dynamic marks and vertical space

[Malte Meyn]

Am 27.08.2016 um 01:24 schrieb Timofey Misarenkov:

(DynamicText.extra-offset can help to move, but
vertical space waste remains the same. And using same approach to move
\p and hairpin do not helps either.)


extra-offset only moves the visual appearance of a grob but doesn’t 
affect spacing so if you move the ff left spacing will be as if you 
hadn’t moved it.



So, the question is: how to make \ff to appear at the left of s ?


Instead of extra-offset, use X-offset and Y-offset (in this case, 
X-offset is sufficient). Are you sure it’s a "ff" and a "p" (separated) 
and not a "ffp" (combined)? Because there is no \ffp command in 
LilyPond, you can create one:

  ffp = #(make-dynamic-script "ffp")
Or use make-dynamic-script directly (see below).

If you start the hairpin directly at the ffp, it’s start will move to 
the left together with the ffp (remember: X-offset affects spacing ;)). 
To avoid that, just increase it’s bound-padding.



\version "2.18.2"

\score {
  \new GrandStaff <<
\new Staff = "up"  \relative c' {
  \clef treble
  4-> \repeat unfold 12 {16-.}
}

\new Dynamics = "dynamics" {
  % this moves the ffp to the left
  \once \override DynamicText.X-offset = -4.5
  % this increases the gap between ffp and start of hairpin
  \once \override Hairpin.bound-padding = 2.5
  s2...-#(make-dynamic-script "ffp")\< s16\! |
}

\new Staff = "down" \relative c, {
  \clef bass
  4-> \repeat unfold 12 {16-.}
}
  >>
  \layout {}
}


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Dynamic marks and vertical space

[Timofey Misarenkov]

Hi.

The sample code below has one flaw: it wastes too much vertical space
due to \ff. In the real case its even worse, because of  has
duration of 1 and uses more space. I'm trying to move \ff to the left,
but unsuccessfully. (DynamicText.extra-offset can help to move, but
vertical space waste remains the same. And using same approach to move
\p and hairpin do not helps either.)

So, the question is: how to make \ff to appear at the left of s ?

\version "2.18.2"

\score {
  \new GrandStaff <<
\new Staff = "up"  \relative c' {
  \clef treble
  4-> \repeat unfold 12 {16-.}
}
\new Dynamics = "dynamics" { s8\ff s8\p\< s2 s8. s16\! |}
\new Staff = "down" \relative c, {
  \clef bass
  4-> \repeat unfold 12 {16-.}
}
  >>
  \layout {}
}

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