Re: Bar check for lead in notes?
Thank you all for the links, yes that's it a partial bar.
On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 9:54 PM Jean Abou Samra wrote:
> Le mardi 28 mars 2023 à 21:40 +0100, John Whitmore a écrit :
>
> I'm not even sure that I have the correct terminology for why I'm trying
> to achieve. I've been trying to find info in the bar sections but so far
> haven't found what I'm looking for.
>
> I'm trying to write out a tune whose first bar is incomplete, whilst the
> piece is in 4/4 the first bar only contains a triplet:
>
> \tuplet 3/2 { a'8 b' cs'' } |
>
> There are no rests in the bar it's just that triplet, which would be
> equivalent to a 1/4 note, I think. So that bar is only a quarter the length
> that it should be for the bar check.
>
> The last bar of the piece is the mirror of that first bar and is only 3/4
> full:
>
> fs''8 g'' fs'' e'' d''8 r8 |
>
> Unfortunately the above will fail the first bar check and then rearrange
> all the bars to move the bar breaks making that first bar a complete bar.
>
> I've tried to remove all the bar checks from the piece and manually add
> the bars with '\bar "|"' But that gives me my manual bars plus where
> lilypond thinks the bars should go.
>
> \tuplet 3/2 { a'8 b' cs'' } \bar "|"
> d''4 fs''8 d'' g'' e'' fs'' e'' \bar "|"
>
> I end up with alternating bars which are 1/4 full and 3/4 full the whole
> way through the piece.
>
> Probably missed the section of the manual which I need for this. Any
> direction would be gratefully received.
>
> This one from the Learning Manual: Partial measure
> ,
> and this one from the Notation Reference: Upbeats
>
>
> At the beginning of the piece, use \partial 4. At the end, just don't put
> a bar check.
>
Re: Bar check for lead in notes?
Le mardi 28 mars 2023 à 21:40 +0100, John Whitmore a écrit :
> I'm not even sure that I have the correct terminology for why I'm trying to
> achieve. I've been trying to find info in the bar sections but so far haven't
> found what I'm looking for.
>
> I'm trying to write out a tune whose first bar is incomplete, whilst the
> piece is in 4/4 the first bar only contains a triplet:
>
> \tuplet 3/2 { a'8 b' cs'' } |
>
> There are no rests in the bar it's just that triplet, which would be
> equivalent to a 1/4 note, I think. So that bar is only a quarter the length
> that it should be for the bar check.
>
> The last bar of the piece is the mirror of that first bar and is only 3/4
> full:
>
> fs''8 g'' fs'' e'' d''8 r8 |
>
> Unfortunately the above will fail the first bar check and then rearrange all
> the bars to move the bar breaks making that first bar a complete bar.
>
> I've tried to remove all the bar checks from the piece and manually add the
> bars with '\bar "|"' But that gives me my manual bars plus where lilypond
> thinks the bars should go.
>
> \tuplet 3/2 { a'8 b' cs'' } \bar "|"
> d''4 fs''8 d'' g'' e'' fs'' e'' \bar "|"
>
>
> I end up with alternating bars which are 1/4 full and 3/4 full the whole way
> through the piece.
>
> Probably missed the section of the manual which I need for this. Any
> direction would be gratefully received.
This one from the Learning Manual: [Partial
measure](https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/learning/advanced-rhythmic-commands.html#partial-measure),
and this one from the Notation Reference:
[Upbeats](https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/notation/displaying-rhythms.html#upbeats)
At the beginning of the piece, use `\partial 4`. At the end, just don't put a
bar check.
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Re: Bar check for lead in notes?
John Whitmore writes:
> I'm not even sure that I have the correct terminology for why I'm trying to
> achieve. I've been trying to find info in the bar sections but so far
> haven't found what I'm looking for.
>
> I'm trying to write out a tune whose first bar is incomplete, whilst the
> piece is in 4/4 the first bar only contains a triplet:
>
> \tuplet 3/2 { a'8 b' cs'' } |
>
> There are no rests in the bar it's just that triplet, which would be
> equivalent to a 1/4 note, I think. So that bar is only a quarter the length
> that it should be for the bar check.
>
> The last bar of the piece is the mirror of that first bar and is only 3/4
> full:
>
> fs''8 g'' fs'' e'' d''8 r8 |
>
> Unfortunately the above will fail the first bar check and then rearrange
> all the bars to move the bar breaks making that first bar a complete bar.
>
> I've tried to remove all the bar checks from the piece and manually add the
> bars with '\bar "|"' But that gives me my manual bars plus where lilypond
> thinks the bars should go.
>
> \tuplet 3/2 { a'8 b' cs'' } \bar "|"
> d''4 fs''8 d'' g'' e'' fs'' e'' \bar "|"
>
> I end up with alternating bars which are 1/4 full and 3/4 full the whole
> way through the piece.
>
> Probably missed the section of the manual which I need for this. Any
> direction would be gratefully received.
--
David Kastrup
Bar check for lead in notes?
I'm not even sure that I have the correct terminology for why I'm trying to
achieve. I've been trying to find info in the bar sections but so far
haven't found what I'm looking for.
I'm trying to write out a tune whose first bar is incomplete, whilst the
piece is in 4/4 the first bar only contains a triplet:
\tuplet 3/2 { a'8 b' cs'' } |
There are no rests in the bar it's just that triplet, which would be
equivalent to a 1/4 note, I think. So that bar is only a quarter the length
that it should be for the bar check.
The last bar of the piece is the mirror of that first bar and is only 3/4
full:
fs''8 g'' fs'' e'' d''8 r8 |
Unfortunately the above will fail the first bar check and then rearrange
all the bars to move the bar breaks making that first bar a complete bar.
I've tried to remove all the bar checks from the piece and manually add the
bars with '\bar "|"' But that gives me my manual bars plus where lilypond
thinks the bars should go.
\tuplet 3/2 { a'8 b' cs'' } \bar "|"
d''4 fs''8 d'' g'' e'' fs'' e'' \bar "|"
I end up with alternating bars which are 1/4 full and 3/4 full the whole
way through the piece.
Probably missed the section of the manual which I need for this. Any
direction would be gratefully received.
