Crescendo too small
Hi all, I'll investigate into this some more but I'd like to ask one question up front: Sometimes I get the "warning: crescendo too small". It often happens when there is a rather wide DynamicText in front of the hairpin, and the hairpins can be extremely short - up to a vertical line as shown in the attached image (in case of doubt: it's the line between the \p and the \f ;-) ) I wonder why LilyPond can warn me about this but doesn't simply make the crescendo longer instead. Any comments? Urs ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: warning: crescendo too small
Op vrijdag 03 juni 2011 schreef David: > PS Has anyone written a book on LilyPond that one could buy and hold in > one's hands? I would really want to write such one. I even already have a title, a subtitle and lots and lots of ideas. Only time. every 10 minutes that are left go to Frescobaldi best regards, Wilbert Berendsen -- Frescobaldi, LilyPond editor for KDE: http://www.frescobaldi.org/ Nederlands LilyPond forum: http://www.lilypondforum.nl/ ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: warning: crescendo too small
Hi Reinhold,
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 12:41:24 +0200
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> included in that length. The simple solution is gto increase the
> minimum length for the hairpin. See e.g. the LSR:
>
> http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=448
Exactly ...
>
> I suppose you want this minimum-length only for this one hairpin and
> not for all others, so you'll need to use \once\override instead of
> \override:
>
>
> \version "2.12.3"
>
> \include "english.ly"
> \score {
> <<
> \relative g' {
> \clef "treble"
> \key c \major
> \time 4/4
> r2 r4
> % make the hairpin longer:
> \once\override Hairpin #'minimum-length = #7
> % less space between \mp and hairpin:
> \once \override Hairpin #'bound-padding = #0.25
> d'^\markup { \tiny "Solo" }_\mp\<(
> g2\! fs4 e4)
> }
> >>
> \layout {}
> }
>
> Cheers,
> Reinhold
>
Wonderful the finite control one has over such things. I was just
playing with the values, set minimum-length = #8 and bound-padding =
#.75 and it looks identical to than the original (slightly more spacing
between the d4 and g2, but that's fine)
thank you kindly
David
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Re: warning: crescendo too small
On Fri, 03 Jun 2011 10:20:05 +
David Bobroff wrote:
> On 6/3/2011 10:05 AM, David Santamauro wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > When magnified 500%, the crescendo looks like a '|' ... the snippet:
> >
> > \version "2.12.3"
> >
> > \include "english.ly"
> > \score {
> ><<
> > \relative g' {
> >\clef "treble"
> >\key c \major
> >\time 4/4
> >r2 r4 d'^\markup { \tiny "Solo" }_\mp\<(
> >g2\! fs4 e4)
> > }
> >>>
> >\layout {}
> > }
> \version "2.12.3"
>
> \include "english.ly"
> \score {
> <<
> \relative g' {
>\clef "treble"
>\key c \major
>\time 4/4
>%% move \mp and \< to r4
>r2 r4_\mp\< d'^\markup { \tiny "Solo" }(
>g2\! fs4 e4)
>%% \scaleDurations to "stretch" the quarter note
>r2 r4 \scaleDurations #'(1 . 4) { d'^\markup { \tiny "Solo"
> }_\mp\<( s4. s4. s4-\! }
>g2\! fs4 e4)
> }
> >>
>\layout {}
> }
This looks truer to the original, for sure.
\scaleDurations #'(1 . 4)
{ d'^\markup { \tiny "Solo" > }_\mp\<(
s4. s4. s4-\! }
Thanks!
David
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Re: warning: crescendo too small
Am Freitag, 3. Juni 2011, 12:05:08 schrieb David Santamauro:
> Hi,
>
> When magnified 500%, the crescendo looks like a '|' ... the snippet:
The problem is that while hairpins have a minimum length, the width of the \mp
(which is larger than the default minimum length) is also included in that
length. The simple solution is gto increase the minimum length for the
hairpin. See e.g. the LSR:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=448
I suppose you want this minimum-length only for this one hairpin and not for
all others, so you'll need to use \once\override instead of \override:
\version "2.12.3"
\include "english.ly"
\score {
<<
\relative g' {
\clef "treble"
\key c \major
\time 4/4
r2 r4
% make the hairpin longer:
\once\override Hairpin #'minimum-length = #7
% less space between \mp and hairpin:
\once \override Hairpin #'bound-padding = #0.25
d'^\markup { \tiny "Solo" }_\mp\<(
g2\! fs4 e4)
}
>>
\layout {}
}
Cheers,
Reinhold
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Re: warning: crescendo too small
David Santamauro wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> When magnified 500%, the crescendo looks like a '|' ... the snippet:
>
> \version "2.12.3"
>
> \include "english.ly"
> \score {
> <<
> \relative g' {
> \clef "treble"
> \key c \major
> \time 4/4
> r2 r4 d'^\markup { \tiny "Solo" }_\mp\<(
> g2\! fs4 e4)
> }
> >>
> \layout {}
> }
>
> I've attached what I'm trying to achieve.
>
unset ragged-right
\paper {ragged-right = ##f}
this might help!
Eluze
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Re: warning: crescendo too small
On 6/3/2011 10:05 AM, David Santamauro wrote:
Hi,
When magnified 500%, the crescendo looks like a '|' ... the snippet:
\version "2.12.3"
\include "english.ly"
\score {
<<
\relative g' {
\clef "treble"
\key c \major
\time 4/4
r2 r4 d'^\markup { \tiny "Solo" }_\mp\<(
g2\! fs4 e4)
}
>>
\layout {}
}
I've attached what I'm trying to achieve.
Thanks
David
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A couple possibilities:
\version "2.12.3"
\include "english.ly"
\score {
<<
\relative g' {
\clef "treble"
\key c \major
\time 4/4
%% move \mp and \< to r4
r2 r4_\mp\< d'^\markup { \tiny "Solo" }(
g2\! fs4 e4)
%% \scaleDurations to "stretch" the quarter note
r2 r4 \scaleDurations #'(1 . 4) { d'^\markup { \tiny "Solo"
}_\mp\<( s4. s4. s4-\! }
g2\! fs4 e4)
}
>>
\layout {}
}
Hope this helps.
-David
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warning: crescendo too small
Hi,
When magnified 500%, the crescendo looks like a '|' ... the snippet:
\version "2.12.3"
\include "english.ly"
\score {
<<
\relative g' {
\clef "treble"
\key c \major
\time 4/4
r2 r4 d'^\markup { \tiny "Solo" }_\mp\<(
g2\! fs4 e4)
}
>>
\layout {}
}
I've attached what I'm trying to achieve.
Thanks
David
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Re: how do I fix "warning: crescendo too small"?
Try something like \once \override Hairpin #'bound-padding = #0.2 The default value is 1. /Mats Michael Kiermaier wrote: Hi Kieren, thanks, that works! I realized that there quite some space between the dynamic marks and the hairpin. In extreme situations like the one I had (c4\f\> c4\p), that space should be reduced, I think. Is it possible to adjust that space? ~Michael On Tuesday 03 October 2006 23:33, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi, Michael: Try \once \override Hairpin #'minimum-length = #4 Adjust the 4 as necessary. Best regards, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- = Mats Bengtsson Signal Processing Signals, Sensors and Systems Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM Sweden Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe = ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how do I fix "warning: crescendo too small"?
Hi Kieren, thanks, that works! I realized that there quite some space between the dynamic marks and the hairpin. In extreme situations like the one I had (c4\f\> c4\p), that space should be reduced, I think. Is it possible to adjust that space? ~Michael On Tuesday 03 October 2006 23:33, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi, Michael: > > Try > > \once \override Hairpin #'minimum-length = #4 > > Adjust the 4 as necessary. > > Best regards, > Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: how do I fix "warning: crescendo too small"?
Hi, Michael: Try \once \override Hairpin #'minimum-length = #4 Adjust the 4 as necessary. Best regards, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
how do I fix "warning: crescendo too small"?
I get the warning "crescendo too small" for two notes close to each other, both with dynamic marks and connected by a crescendo. In the pdf output I get a very degenerated crescendo mark: Only a vertical line. To fix this I have to force the two notes further apart. But I don't know how to do this. Can anybody help? Thanks, ~michael ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
