Re: {SPAM 02.0} Re: Form of multi-measure-rests

2018-06-15 Thread Aaron Hill

On 2018-06-15 13:39, David Kastrup wrote:

Karlin High  writes:

On 6/15/2018 2:51 PM, David Kastrup wrote:

Simple, and almost obvious, once someone has told you the answer!

Oh.  Then we should patent it before someone else does.


The FSF / GNU overlords would then... call in an airstrike or
something?


I think the term is "anathema".


RMS issuing a "presidential bull" would be pretty funny.

-- Aaron Hill

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Re: {SPAM 02.0} Re: Form of multi-measure-rests

2018-06-15 Thread David Kastrup
Karlin High  writes:

> On 6/15/2018 2:51 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
>>> Simple, and almost obvious, once someone has told you the answer!
>> Oh.  Then we should patent it before someone else does.
>
> The FSF / GNU overlords would then... call in an airstrike or
> something?

I think the term is "anathema".

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Re: {SPAM 02.0} Re: Form of multi-measure-rests

2018-06-15 Thread Karlin High

On 6/15/2018 2:51 PM, David Kastrup wrote:

Simple, and almost obvious, once someone has told you the answer!

Oh.  Then we should patent it before someone else does.


The FSF / GNU overlords would then... call in an airstrike or something?
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Missouri, USA

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Re: {SPAM 02.0} Re: Form of multi-measure-rests

2018-06-15 Thread David Kastrup
David Sumbler  writes:

> On Fri, 2018-06-15 at 21:08 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote:
>> On 15.06.2018 20:11, David Sumbler wrote:
>> > 
>> > I had seen the usable-duration-log variable in the Internals
>> > Reference,
>> > and its default value of '(-3 -2 -1 0) .  But I have no idea what
>> > these
>> > values represent.  Can you enlighten me?
>> They are the negative logarithms (base 2) of the usable durations.
>> -3 
>> means \maxima, 0 means 1, and 3 would mean 8, if you’d like to have
>> the 
>> full-bar rest in 2/16 time displayed as a quaver rest.
>> 
>> Best, Simon
>
> Simple, and almost obvious, once someone has told you the answer!

Oh.  Then we should patent it before someone else does.

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Re: {SPAM 02.0} Re: Form of multi-measure-rests

2018-06-15 Thread David Sumbler
On Fri, 2018-06-15 at 21:08 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote:
> On 15.06.2018 20:11, David Sumbler wrote:
> > 
> > I had seen the usable-duration-log variable in the Internals
> > Reference,
> > and its default value of '(-3 -2 -1 0) .  But I have no idea what
> > these
> > values represent.  Can you enlighten me?
> They are the negative logarithms (base 2) of the usable durations.
> -3 
> means \maxima, 0 means 1, and 3 would mean 8, if you’d like to have
> the 
> full-bar rest in 2/16 time displayed as a quaver rest.
> 
> Best, Simon

Simple, and almost obvious, once someone has told you the answer!
 Thanks again.

David

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Re: Form of multi-measure-rests

2018-06-15 Thread Simon Albrecht

On 15.06.2018 20:11, David Sumbler wrote:

I had seen the usable-duration-log variable in the Internals Reference,
and its default value of '(-3 -2 -1 0) .  But I have no idea what these
values represent.  Can you enlighten me?


They are the negative logarithms (base 2) of the usable durations. -3 
means \maxima, 0 means 1, and 3 would mean 8, if you’d like to have the 
full-bar rest in 2/16 time displayed as a quaver rest.


Best, Simon

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Re: Form of multi-measure-rests

2018-06-15 Thread David Sumbler
On Fri, 2018-06-15 at 19:36 +0200, Simon Albrecht wrote:
> On 15.06.2018 19:08, David Sumbler wrote:
> > 
> > In a piece which is in 21/8 time (7 dotted crotchets) I find that
> > LilyPond sets whole-bar rests as breve rests.  I should like them
> > to
> > appear as semibreve rests, as they would if the bars were shorter.
> > 
> > I have tried modifying the stencil using the method shown in
> > NR5.5.3.
> >   But as it stands this is not successful, because the rest symbol
> > is
> > now attached to the preceding barline instead of appearing in the
> > middle of the bar.
> > 
> > How can I get semibreve rest symbols in the correct position,
> > rather
> > than breve rests?
> \version "2.19.80"
> 
> {
>    \time 21/8
>    R8*21
>    \override MultiMeasureRest.usable-duration-logs = #'(0)
>    R
> }

Thank you very much for that.

I had seen the usable-duration-log variable in the Internals Reference,
and its default value of '(-3 -2 -1 0) .  But I have no idea what these
values represent.  Can you enlighten me?

David


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Re: Form of multi-measure-rests

2018-06-15 Thread Simon Albrecht

On 15.06.2018 19:08, David Sumbler wrote:

In a piece which is in 21/8 time (7 dotted crotchets) I find that
LilyPond sets whole-bar rests as breve rests.  I should like them to
appear as semibreve rests, as they would if the bars were shorter.

I have tried modifying the stencil using the method shown in NR5.5.3.
  But as it stands this is not successful, because the rest symbol is
now attached to the preceding barline instead of appearing in the
middle of the bar.

How can I get semibreve rest symbols in the correct position, rather
than breve rests?


\version "2.19.80"

{
  \time 21/8
  R8*21
  \override MultiMeasureRest.usable-duration-logs = #'(0)
  R
}

Best, Simon

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Form of multi-measure-rests

2018-06-15 Thread David Sumbler
In a piece which is in 21/8 time (7 dotted crotchets) I find that
LilyPond sets whole-bar rests as breve rests.  I should like them to
appear as semibreve rests, as they would if the bars were shorter.

I have tried modifying the stencil using the method shown in NR5.5.3.
 But as it stands this is not successful, because the rest symbol is
now attached to the preceding barline instead of appearing in the
middle of the bar.

How can I get semibreve rest symbols in the correct position, rather
than breve rests?

David



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