Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
Hi Ádám, thank you a lot for this solution. It is much better than anything I > expected to achieve. > Glad to hear it! -David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
On 2012.03.10., at 18:14, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi again, > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:45 AM, David Nalesnik > wrote: > >> Hi Ádám, >> >> What about using proportional spacing and then moving the bar line >>> slightly to the right? >>> >> >> Attached is an attempt at automating this somewhat. I haven't tested it >> extensively, but I hope it will be useful. >> > > Looking at your example some more, it occurs to me that you want to move > the SpanBar right. > > The attached example provides two functions. One centers the bar lines, > the other the span bars. The adjustment of BarLine isn't really necessary > with the example since the bar lines are transparent. Otherwise, both > overrides would be necessary for both to align vertically. > > I've automated this further so you don't have to call the functions > repeatedly. > > HTH, > David > Dear David, thank you a lot for this solution. It is much better than anything I expected to achieve. Thanks again, Ádám ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
Hi again, On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:45 AM, David Nalesnik wrote: > Hi Ádám, > > What about using proportional spacing and then moving the bar line >> slightly to the right? >> > > Attached is an attempt at automating this somewhat. I haven't tested it > extensively, but I hope it will be useful. > Looking at your example some more, it occurs to me that you want to move the SpanBar right. The attached example provides two functions. One centers the bar lines, the other the span bars. The adjustment of BarLine isn't really necessary with the example since the bar lines are transparent. Otherwise, both overrides would be necessary for both to align vertically. I've automated this further so you don't have to call the functions repeatedly. HTH, David barline-through-note02.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
Hi Ádám, What about using proportional spacing and then moving the bar line slightly > to the right? > Attached is an attempt at automating this somewhat. I haven't tested it extensively, but I hope it will be useful. -David barline-through-note01.ly Description: Binary data ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
Hi Ádám, I just realized that the solution is not as good as it seemed to be. It > seems that if I use a markup, the distance between subsequent crotchets > won't be the same, as the first crotchet of the measure (the one that is > represented by the markup) will be placed a little more left than it should > be. So I need a solution where the actual bar lines would move 'a bit to > the right' in order to be in sync with the first notehead in the measure. > > What about using proportional spacing and then moving the bar line slightly to the right? Something like this: \version "2.15.30" { \time 2/4 \override Stem #'stencil = #point-stencil d' d' \once \override Staff.BarLine #'extra-offset = #'(1.5 . 0) d' d' } \layout { \context { \Score \override SpacingSpanner #'strict-note-spacing = ##t proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8) } \context { \Staff \remove "Time_signature_engraver" } } HTH, David ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
On 2012.03.10., at 8:51, Siska Ádám wrote: > On 2012.03.10., at 3:00, Nick Payne wrote: >> On 10/03/12 10:24, Siska Ádám wrote: >>> On 2012.03.09., at 23:44, -Eluze wrote: Siska Ádám-4 wrote: > Dear list, > > > I've been using Lilypond for a while, but only to create excerpts of > classical music. Now I'd like to try whether I could switch from > hand-engraving to Lilypond with my own music. I'm trying to engrave an > orchestral piece that requires 'time/space notation'. I found most of the > instructions in the manual for this, however, I can't figure out how to > put the first noteheads of the measures exactly over their respective bar > lines (like in some of Tristan Murail's scores, for example). Could you > please give me an advice on how to achieve this? > > > Any help is highly appreciated, I can't really imagine what this should look like - can you provide an excerpt or scan of this!? thanks Eluze >>> >>> Dear Eluze, >>> >>> >>> thank you for your reply. Attached please find two PNGs. The >>> 'current_state.png' shows an example of the settings I'm using right now >>> (with the note head coming a bit after the dashed barline) and >>> 'what_i_need.png' would be the solution that I'm looking for (with the >>> barline exactly on the first note of the measure, which I solved for now >>> with some graphic apps, but of course, that's not a real solution). >> >> I don't know if it's of much use for your purposes, but you can use a >> notehead glyph as a rehearsal mark, which positions it directly on the >> barline: >> >> \relative c' { >> d4 d d d >> \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -5.9) >> \mark\markup\normalsize { \musicglyph #"noteheads.s2" } d >> } > > Dear Nick, > > thanks for this! Although in terms of musical-logic it is not a solution, but > it looks exactly like what I need. > > Thanks, > Ádám Dear Nick, I just realized that the solution is not as good as it seemed to be. It seems that if I use a markup, the distance between subsequent crotchets won't be the same, as the first crotchet of the measure (the one that is represented by the markup) will be placed a little more left than it should be. So I need a solution where the actual bar lines would move 'a bit to the right' in order to be in sync with the first notehead in the measure. Thanks, Ádám ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
On 2012.03.10., at 3:00, Nick Payne wrote: On 10/03/12 10:24, Siska Ádám wrote: >> On 2012.03.09., at 23:44, -Eluze wrote: >>> Siska Ádám-4 wrote: Dear list, I've been using Lilypond for a while, but only to create excerpts of classical music. Now I'd like to try whether I could switch from hand-engraving to Lilypond with my own music. I'm trying to engrave an orchestral piece that requires 'time/space notation'. I found most of the instructions in the manual for this, however, I can't figure out how to put the first noteheads of the measures exactly over their respective bar lines (like in some of Tristan Murail's scores, for example). Could you please give me an advice on how to achieve this? Any help is highly appreciated, >>> I can't really imagine what this should look like - can you provide an >>> excerpt or scan of this!? >>> >>> thanks >>> Eluze >> >> Dear Eluze, >> >> >> thank you for your reply. Attached please find two PNGs. The >> 'current_state.png' shows an example of the settings I'm using right now >> (with the note head coming a bit after the dashed barline) and >> 'what_i_need.png' would be the solution that I'm looking for (with the >> barline exactly on the first note of the measure, which I solved for now >> with some graphic apps, but of course, that's not a real solution). > > I don't know if it's of much use for your purposes, but you can use a > notehead glyph as a rehearsal mark, which positions it directly on the > barline: > > \relative c' { >d4 d d d >\once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -5.9) >\mark\markup\normalsize { \musicglyph #"noteheads.s2" } d > } Dear Nick, thanks for this! Although in terms of musical-logic it is not a solution, but it looks exactly like what I need. Thanks, Ádám ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
On 10/03/12 10:24, Siska Ádám wrote: On 2012.03.09., at 23:44, -Eluze wrote: Siska Ádám-4 wrote: Dear list, I've been using Lilypond for a while, but only to create excerpts of classical music. Now I'd like to try whether I could switch from hand-engraving to Lilypond with my own music. I'm trying to engrave an orchestral piece that requires 'time/space notation'. I found most of the instructions in the manual for this, however, I can't figure out how to put the first noteheads of the measures exactly over their respective bar lines (like in some of Tristan Murail's scores, for example). Could you please give me an advice on how to achieve this? Any help is highly appreciated, I can't really imagine what this should look like - can you provide an excerpt or scan of this!? thanks Eluze Dear Eluze, thank you for your reply. Attached please find two PNGs. The 'current_state.png' shows an example of the settings I'm using right now (with the note head coming a bit after the dashed barline) and 'what_i_need.png' would be the solution that I'm looking for (with the barline exactly on the first note of the measure, which I solved for now with some graphic apps, but of course, that's not a real solution). I don't know if it's of much use for your purposes, but you can use a notehead glyph as a rehearsal mark, which positions it directly on the barline: \relative c' { d4 d d d \once \override Score.RehearsalMark #'extra-offset = #'(0 . -5.9) \mark\markup\normalsize { \musicglyph #"noteheads.s2" } d } <>___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
On 2012.03.09., at 23:44, -Eluze wrote: > Siska Ádám-4 wrote: >> Dear list, >> >> >> I've been using Lilypond for a while, but only to create excerpts of >> classical music. Now I'd like to try whether I could switch from >> hand-engraving to Lilypond with my own music. I'm trying to engrave an >> orchestral piece that requires 'time/space notation'. I found most of the >> instructions in the manual for this, however, I can't figure out how to >> put the first noteheads of the measures exactly over their respective bar >> lines (like in some of Tristan Murail's scores, for example). Could you >> please give me an advice on how to achieve this? >> >> >> Any help is highly appreciated, > > I can't really imagine what this should look like - can you provide an > excerpt or scan of this!? > > thanks > Eluze Dear Eluze, thank you for your reply. Attached please find two PNGs. The 'current_state.png' shows an example of the settings I'm using right now (with the note head coming a bit after the dashed barline) and 'what_i_need.png' would be the solution that I'm looking for (with the barline exactly on the first note of the measure, which I solved for now with some graphic apps, but of course, that's not a real solution). Thanks in advance, Ádám <> <> ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Noteheads exactly over bar lines
Siska Ádám-4 wrote: > > Dear list, > > > I've been using Lilypond for a while, but only to create excerpts of > classical music. Now I'd like to try whether I could switch from > hand-engraving to Lilypond with my own music. I'm trying to engrave an > orchestral piece that requires 'time/space notation'. I found most of the > instructions in the manual for this, however, I can't figure out how to > put the first noteheads of the measures exactly over their respective bar > lines (like in some of Tristan Murail's scores, for example). Could you > please give me an advice on how to achieve this? > > > Any help is highly appreciated, > > I can't really imagine what this should look like - can you provide an excerpt or scan of this!? thanks Eluze -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Noteheads-exactly-over-bar-lines-tp33474897p33475042.html Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Noteheads exactly over bar lines
Dear list, I've been using Lilypond for a while, but only to create excerpts of classical music. Now I'd like to try whether I could switch from hand-engraving to Lilypond with my own music. I'm trying to engrave an orchestral piece that requires 'time/space notation'. I found most of the instructions in the manual for this, however, I can't figure out how to put the first noteheads of the measures exactly over their respective bar lines (like in some of Tristan Murail's scores, for example). Could you please give me an advice on how to achieve this? Any help is highly appreciated, Ádám Siska ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user