Re: Question about voltas and repeats
Hi, Michael! Unfortunately, this is not what I'm looking for. You seem to
have written (or copied) the 'whatiwant' part. I'm looking for a way to
abstract (as Kieren has put) the volta command. The purpose is to minimize
writing while being able to export repeat/volta musical parts (plus
straight non volta parts) and being able to create independent multi-part
grid scores. The reasoning of the 'unfoldRepeat' command is to merely
create a straight non repeating score - and subsequently having it through
a repeat/volta pattern.
Em qua., 13 de mar. de 2024 às 01:59, Michael Werner
escreveu:
> Hi Lucas,
>
> > On Mar 12, 2024, at 7:00 PM, Lucas Cavalcanti
> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>> > Hello. I've been thinking about Lilypond's usage on parts: for one
>>> musician (for example, the singer singing the melody) I'd like to give them
>>> a score containing voltas using the repeat and volta commands; for another
>>> musician (for example, the drummer) I'd like to give them a score with no
>>> repeats and voltas. I know that if I'd like to create a full-band score
>>> (i.e a grid) I can use the \unfoldRepeats at every variable, creating one
>>> straight through score.
>>> >
>>> > However, is it possible to create something like a "Tempo Map" of
>>> sorts? Like a part/variable that gives instructions to the master grid to
>>> create repeats and voltas without the need to create new parts?
>>> >
>>> > My objective is to figure out a way to create independent grid scores
>>> from musician part scores. To give a singer one straight, 6 pages score, to
>>> give a drummer a 1 page score and to give the conductor a 4 page score.
>>> > Is that possible?
>>>
>>
> Unless I'm misunderstanding what it is you're after, I think this can be
> done. If you shift where you're calling the \unfoldRepeats function it
> seems to work just fine, while still following the guideline Kieren
> mentioned of including the volta structure. Something like:
>
> \version "2.24.3"
>
> melody = {
> \relative c' {
> \repeat volta 2 {
> g4 bes c r
> \alternative {
> \volta 1 { g bes des c }
> \volta 2 { bes g r r }
> } } } }
>
> drumpart = {
> \new DrumStaff {
> \drummode {
> \repeat volta 2 {
> 4
> \alternative {
> \volta 1 { 4}
> \volta 2 { 4}
> } } } } }
>
> %\book
> \score {
> <<
> \melody
> \drumpart
> >>
> }
>
> \score {
> \unfoldRepeats
> <<
> \melody
> \drumpart
> >>
> }
>
> This gives two scores, with the same music. One with the repeats written
> with the volta structure, the second with the repeats unfolded.
> --
> Michael
>
>
Re: Question about voltas and repeats
Hi Lucas,
> On Mar 12, 2024, at 7:00 PM, Lucas Cavalcanti
wrote:
>
> >
>> > Hello. I've been thinking about Lilypond's usage on parts: for one
>> musician (for example, the singer singing the melody) I'd like to give them
>> a score containing voltas using the repeat and volta commands; for another
>> musician (for example, the drummer) I'd like to give them a score with no
>> repeats and voltas. I know that if I'd like to create a full-band score
>> (i.e a grid) I can use the \unfoldRepeats at every variable, creating one
>> straight through score.
>> >
>> > However, is it possible to create something like a "Tempo Map" of
>> sorts? Like a part/variable that gives instructions to the master grid to
>> create repeats and voltas without the need to create new parts?
>> >
>> > My objective is to figure out a way to create independent grid scores
>> from musician part scores. To give a singer one straight, 6 pages score, to
>> give a drummer a 1 page score and to give the conductor a 4 page score.
>> > Is that possible?
>>
>
Unless I'm misunderstanding what it is you're after, I think this can be
done. If you shift where you're calling the \unfoldRepeats function it
seems to work just fine, while still following the guideline Kieren
mentioned of including the volta structure. Something like:
\version "2.24.3"
melody = {
\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 {
g4 bes c r
\alternative {
\volta 1 { g bes des c }
\volta 2 { bes g r r }
} } } }
drumpart = {
\new DrumStaff {
\drummode {
\repeat volta 2 {
4
\alternative {
\volta 1 { 4}
\volta 2 { 4}
} } } } }
%\book
\score {
<<
\melody
\drumpart
>>
}
\score {
\unfoldRepeats
<<
\melody
\drumpart
>>
}
This gives two scores, with the same music. One with the repeats written
with the volta structure, the second with the repeats unfolded.
--
Michael
Re: Question about voltas and repeats
Thanks for the reply, Kieren. Although you recommended not to, I'd like to know if there is some documentation about this abstraction (going further than the reference book's "Manual repeat marks"). This situation would help me a lot. Em ter., 12 de mar. de 2024 às 20:58, Kieren MacMillan < kie...@kierenmacmillan.info> escreveu: > Hi Lucas, > > I was told by people with a far deeper understanding of Lilypond’s than > mine that trying to abstract the volta map is undesireable — it should be > explicitly included in every music expression that it intersects with. > > Cheers, > Kieren. > > > On Mar 12, 2024, at 7:00 PM, Lucas Cavalcanti > wrote: > > > > Hello. I've been thinking about Lilypond's usage on parts: for one > musician (for example, the singer singing the melody) I'd like to give them > a score containing voltas using the repeat and volta commands; for another > musician (for example, the drummer) I'd like to give them a score with no > repeats and voltas. I know that if I'd like to create a full-band score > (i.e a grid) I can use the \unfoldRepeats at every variable, creating one > straight through score. > > > > However, is it possible to create something like a "Tempo Map" of sorts? > Like a part/variable that gives instructions to the master grid to create > repeats and voltas without the need to create new parts? > > > > My objective is to figure out a way to create independent grid scores > from musician part scores. To give a singer one straight, 6 pages score, to > give a drummer a 1 page score and to give the conductor a 4 page score. > > Is that possible? > > > > Best regards, Lucas. > > > > __ > > My work day may look different than your work day. Please do not feel > obligated to read or respond to this email outside of your normal working > hours. > >
Re: Question about voltas and repeats
Hi Lucas, I was told by people with a far deeper understanding of Lilypond’s than mine that trying to abstract the volta map is undesireable — it should be explicitly included in every music expression that it intersects with. Cheers, Kieren. > On Mar 12, 2024, at 7:00 PM, Lucas Cavalcanti wrote: > > Hello. I've been thinking about Lilypond's usage on parts: for one musician > (for example, the singer singing the melody) I'd like to give them a score > containing voltas using the repeat and volta commands; for another musician > (for example, the drummer) I'd like to give them a score with no repeats and > voltas. I know that if I'd like to create a full-band score (i.e a grid) I > can use the \unfoldRepeats at every variable, creating one straight through > score. > > However, is it possible to create something like a "Tempo Map" of sorts? Like > a part/variable that gives instructions to the master grid to create repeats > and voltas without the need to create new parts? > > My objective is to figure out a way to create independent grid scores from > musician part scores. To give a singer one straight, 6 pages score, to give a > drummer a 1 page score and to give the conductor a 4 page score. > Is that possible? > > Best regards, Lucas. > __ My work day may look different than your work day. Please do not feel obligated to read or respond to this email outside of your normal working hours.
Question about voltas and repeats
Hello. I've been thinking about Lilypond's usage on parts: for one musician
(for example, the singer singing the melody) I'd like to give them a score
containing voltas using the repeat and volta commands; for another musician
(for example, the drummer) I'd like to give them a score with no repeats
and voltas. I know that if I'd like to create a full-band score (i.e a
grid) I can use the \unfoldRepeats at every variable, creating one straight
through score.
However, is it possible to create something like a "Tempo Map" of sorts?
Like a part/variable that gives instructions to the master grid to create
repeats and voltas without the need to create new parts?
My objective is to figure out a way to create independent grid scores from
musician part scores. To give a singer one straight, 6 pages score, to give
a drummer a 1 page score and to give the conductor a 4 page score.
Is that possible?
Best regards, Lucas.
Question.pdf
Description: Adobe PDF document
\version "2.24.3"
\layout {
\context {
\Staff
\RemoveAllEmptyStaves
}
}
bateria = {
\new DrumStaff { \drummode {
\repeat unfold 4 {4 }
}}}
melody = {
\new Staff {
\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 {
g4 bes c r
\alternative {
\volta 1 { g bes des c }
\volta 2 { bes g r r }
}
tempomapvolta =
{\repeat volta 2
s1
\alternative{
\volta 1 {s1}
\volta 2 {s1}
}
}
music = {<<
\tempomapvolta
\unfoldRepeats {\melody}
\unfoldRepeats {\bateria}
>>}
%this part below is just for demonstration.
%Ignore all of its' code.
whatiwant = {<<
{
\new Staff {
\relative c' {
\repeat volta 2 {
g4 bes c r
\alternative {
\volta 1 { g bes des c }
\volta 2 { bes g r r }
}
{
\new DrumStaff { \drummode {
\repeat volta 2 {
4
\alternative {
\volta 1 { 4}
\volta 2 { 4}
}
}
}}}
>>}
%\book
\score { \melody \layout {} }
\score { \music \layout {} }
\score { \whatiwant \layout {} }
