Re: Quoted music and midi (Cynthia Karl)

2015-03-16 Thread Thomas Morley
2015-03-16 2:02 GMT+01:00 Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com:


 [...]
 Am I qualified to submit a bug report?  I have read some comments that
 imply that bug reports from Joe User are not welcome.


That's a misunderstanding!
Bug reports are highly apreciated. Only a _known_ bug can be fixed.
We have a bug-squad sorting bug-reports.

Though do as advised here:
http://www.lilypond.org/website/bug-reports.html

Cheers,
  Harm
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Quoted music and midi

2015-03-06 Thread Cynthia Karl
Consider the following snippet:

\version 2.19.16

music = \relative c'' { c,4 d e f | g a b c | }

\addQuote music \music

moreMusic = \relative c'' {
r2 \quoteDuring music s2
r2 \quoteDuring music s2
}

\score { 
\new Staff \music
\new Staff \moreMusic
 
 \layout { }
 \midi { }
 }

The printed output is fine:

,
but although it makes a midi file with two channels, there don't seem to be any 
notes in midi channel 2:



QuotedMusicOnMidi.midi
Description: MIDI audio


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Re: Quoted music and midi

2015-03-06 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 02:17:08PM -0600, Christopher R. Maden wrote:
 On 03/06/2015 11:36 AM, Cynthia Karl wrote:
  The printed output is fine: but although it makes a midi file with
  two channels, there don't seem to be any notes in midi channel 2:
  
  Is this a known problem?
 
 I wouldn’t consider that a problem... if I quote the violin part in a
 trumpet part, I wouldn’t expect to hear the brass honking away in the
 MIDI rendition.  Quoting, IMO, is best for cues, not for actual
 duplicating played music.
[...]

Yeah, if you want to actually duplicate the music, you should consider
using variables instead.


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Re: Quoted music and midi

2015-03-06 Thread Christopher R. Maden
On 03/06/2015 11:36 AM, Cynthia Karl wrote:
 The printed output is fine: but although it makes a midi file with
 two channels, there don't seem to be any notes in midi channel 2:
 
 Is this a known problem?

I wouldn’t consider that a problem... if I quote the violin part in a
trumpet part, I wouldn’t expect to hear the brass honking away in the
MIDI rendition.  Quoting, IMO, is best for cues, not for actual
duplicating played music.

~Chris
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Re: Quoted music and midi

2015-03-06 Thread Cynthia Karl

 
 Message: 3
 Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 14:17:08 -0600
 From: Christopher R. Maden cr...@maden.org
 Subject: Re: Quoted music and midi
 On 03/06/2015 11:36 AM, Cynthia Karl wrote:
 The printed output is fine: but although it makes a midi file with
 two channels, there don't seem to be any notes in midi channel 2:
 
 Is this a known problem?
 
 I wouldn?t consider that a problem... if I quote the violin part in a
 trumpet part, I wouldn?t expect to hear the brass honking away in the
 MIDI rendition.  Quoting, IMO, is best for cues, not for actual
 duplicating played music.
 
 ~Chris

Here's what the Notation Manual has to say about quoteDuring:

 Quoting other voices

 It is very common for one voice to use the same notes as those from another 
 voice. For example,
 first and second violins playing the same phrase during a particular passage 
 of the music. This
 is done by letting one voice quote the other, without having to re-enter the 
 music all over again
 for the second voice.

It doesn't say anything about borrowing the midiInstrument as well as quoting 
the notes.  It seems to me that the snippet I submitted is exactly the 
situation described by the NM.  The only question is, why no midi output for 
the quoted notes?

 Message: 4
 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 12:22:51 -0800
 From: H. S. Teoh hst...@quickfur.ath.cx
 Subject: Re: Quoted music and midi
 
 On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 02:17:08PM -0600, Christopher R. Maden wrote:
 On 03/06/2015 11:36 AM, Cynthia Karl wrote:
 The printed output is fine: but although it makes a midi file with
 two channels, there don't seem to be any notes in midi channel 2:
 
 Is this a known problem?
 
 I wouldn?t consider that a problem... if I quote the violin part in a
 trumpet part, I wouldn?t expect to hear the brass honking away in the
 MIDI rendition.  Quoting, IMO, is best for cues, not for actual
 duplicating played music.
 [...]
 
 Yeah, if you want to actually duplicate the music, you should consider
 using variables instead.

Perhaps the above cite from the NM needs rewriting, eh?

 
 
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