Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Federico, Grazie molto for pointing this out. But it's interesting that different links to the same page (using an English browser) end up with different destinations. I'll mention this in the but list. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Monday, April 7, 2014, 10:14:17 PM, you wrote: Yes, if your browser is english. It will serve page.it.html if it's italian... and so on. So it's because of translations and automatic language selection. It's the problem described here: https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2273 I don't know why the links in the left menu are different from the links in the main area of the page. 2014-04-07 17:35 GMT+02:00 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: It looks like the server serves page using page.html -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Urs Liska To: Phil Holmes ; Peter Toye Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals But a page without extension? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: Of course it is. It's the page and the anchor. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Urs Liska To: Phil Holmes ; Peter Toye Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: If you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to. If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with the developers. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Phil, I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point to the server. The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an oversight? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote: So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links. In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Diese Nachricht wurde mit K-@ Mail gesendet. -- Diese Nachricht wurde mit K-@ Mail gesendet. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Phil, I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point to the server. The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an oversight? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote: So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links. In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Re: Issue with downloaded manualsIf you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to. If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with the developers. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Phil, I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point to the server. The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an oversight? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote: So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links. In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: Re: Issue with downloaded manualsIf you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to. If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with the developers. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Phil, I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point to the server. The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an oversight? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote: So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links. In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Diese Nachricht wurde mit a href=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onegravity.k10.pro2;bK-@ Mail/b/a gesendet.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
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notation-big-page# of course. I _hate_ autocompletion that thinks to know netter ... Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org schrieb am 07.04.2014: Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: Re: Issue with downloaded manualsIf you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to. If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with the developers. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Phil, I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point to the server. The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an oversight? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote: So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links. In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Diese Nachricht wurde mit a href=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onegravity.k10.pro2;bK-@ Mail/b/a gesendet.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Re: Issue with downloaded manualsOf course it is. It's the page and the anchor. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Urs Liska To: Phil Holmes ; Peter Toye Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: If you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to. If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with the developers. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Phil, I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point to the server. The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an oversight? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote: So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links. In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Diese Nachricht wurde mit K-@ Mail gesendet.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
But a page without extension? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: Re: Issue with downloaded manualsOf course it is. It's the page and the anchor. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Urs Liska To: Phil Holmes ; Peter Toye Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: If you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to. If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with the developers. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Phil, I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point to the server. The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an oversight? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote: So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links. In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Diese Nachricht wurde mit K-@ Mail gesendet. -- Diese Nachricht wurde mit a href=https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onegravity.k10.pro2;bK-@ Mail/b/a gesendet.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Phil, I have, but it's interesting. FF support point out that if there's a file name it's turned into a reference to the file on the server. This makes sense to me. FF doesn't check if the file name is the same as the one being viewed. If I save the first page of the Notation manual (I've not tried the others yet, but I doubt if they're different) in IE or Opera all of the links are changed to point to the LP website. It's only Firefox which recognises local links and keeps them local, and also saves the relevant files. Neither Opera nor IE save anything but the stylesheet and JS files. Is there anyone here who can try it out with other browsers, or confirm my own experience? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Monday, April 7, 2014, 2:06:06 PM, you wrote: If you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to. If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with the developers. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Phil, I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point to the server. The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an oversight? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote: So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links. In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Re: Issue with downloaded manualsIt looks like the server serves page using page.html -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Urs Liska To: Phil Holmes ; Peter Toye Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals But a page without extension? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: Of course it is. It's the page and the anchor. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Urs Liska To: Phil Holmes ; Peter Toye Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:23 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: If you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to. If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with the developers. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Phil, I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point to the server. The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an oversight? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote: So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links. In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Diese Nachricht wurde mit K-@ Mail gesendet. -- Diese Nachricht wurde mit K-@ Mail gesendet.___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Yes, if your browser is english. It will serve page.it.html if it's italian... and so on. So it's because of translations and automatic language selection. It's the problem described here: https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2273 I don't know why the links in the left menu are different from the links in the main area of the page. 2014-04-07 17:35 GMT+02:00 Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net: It looks like the server serves page using page.html -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - *From:* Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org *To:* Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net ; Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com *Cc:* lilypond-user@gnu.org *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 2:31 PM *Subject:* Re: [SPAM] Re: Issue with downloaded manuals But a page without extension? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: Of course it is. It's the page and the anchor. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - *From:* Urs Liska u...@openlilylib.org *To:* Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net ; Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com *Cc:* lilypond-user@gnu.org *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 2:23 PM *Subject:* Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Hm, but is notation-nog-page# a correct Part of a link? Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net schrieb am 07.04.2014: If you check HTML syntax, you'll find that the #location is an anchor, and identifies a location in the page that the link is pointing to. If there's a problem, it's with Firefox: I suggest you raise an issue with the developers. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - *From:* Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com *To:* Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net *Cc:* lilypond-user@gnu.org *Sent:* Monday, April 07, 2014 9:24 AM *Subject:* Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Phil, I think I've found the problem. Most of the links in the web site are of the form #location. The TOC frame has links of the form notation-big-page#location which Firefox interprets as a request to point to the original server rather than the local copy. After all, had the file name been different it wouldn't have been downloaded so the link would have to point to the server. The question remains: why is the page coded this way? Is there some reason that I can't think of that the TOC needs to point to the server. Or is it an oversight? Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 6:11:12 PM, you wrote: So it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links. In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - *From: *Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com *To: *Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net *Cc: *lilypond-user@gnu.org *Sent:* Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM *Subject:* Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - *From: *Peter Toye lilyp...@ptoye.com *To: *lilypond-user@gnu.org *Sent:* Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM *Subject:* Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user -- Diese Nachricht wurde mit *K-@ Mail*https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onegravity.k10.pro2gesendet. -- Diese Nachricht wurde mit *K-@ Mail*https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onegravity.k10.pro2gesendet. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
If it's of any use to you, I've created fully indexed and searchable PDF portfolios of the complete documentation sets Nick: I've often wondered, what are some of the things one can do with these doc sets that one can't do with the bare PDF files? I suspect I never do those things, whatever they are, but perhaps if I knew what they were, I might investigate whether they would be useful to me. Thanks! Jim ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
On 07/04/14 07:10, Jim Long wrote: If it's of any use to you, I've created fully indexed and searchable PDF portfolios of the complete documentation sets I've often wondered, what are some of the things one can do with these doc sets that one can't do with the bare PDF files? I suspect I never do those things, whatever they are, but perhaps if I knew what they were, I might investigate whether they would be useful to me. Open the portfolio into Adobe Reader, enter a search term into the search box at upper right, and press enter or click the binocular icon at the end of the search box. Reader will open a separate small window containing all the search hits and the documents within the portfolio in which they appear. Click on any of the hits to be taken to the relevant part of the document in which it appears. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Thanks for providing this document. In many ways the results are better than searching on the lilypond website as I can find the things that interest me faster. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Issue-with-downloaded-manuals-tp161245p161312.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Issue with downloaded manualsHow did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com -- ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
RE: Issue with downloaded manuals
From: Peter Toye [mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com] Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 11:42 AM To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com Try downloading the doc tarball instead (stable: http://www.lilypond.org/download/binaries/documentation/lilypond-2.18.2-1.documentation.tar.bz2; unstable: http://www.lilypond.org/download/binaries/documentation/lilypond-2.19.3-1.documentation.tar.bz2). Extract, extract again, open ~/share/doc/lilypond/html/index.html and navigate just like you would on the website. It's a lot more data to download, and it'll take a few minutes to extract, but it's probably the simplest way to do what you're asking (I won't say it's the only way since I don't know that it is). ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
Re: Issue with downloaded manualsSo it's Firefox that will be creating the non-relative links. In the original HTML files, the server is not a part of the links. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: Phil Holmes Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Issue with downloaded manuals Thanks Phil. I saved the page (in Firefox). This saves the page and the associated files. Best regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com - Saturday, April 5, 2014, 5:25:50 PM, you wrote: How did you download them? If you simply Save the html file, you'll be missing the style sheet and all the images. -- Phil Holmes - Original Message - From: Peter Toye To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 4:41 PM Subject: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. Regards, Peter mailto:lilyp...@ptoye.com www.ptoye.com ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: Issue with downloaded manuals
On 06/04/14 02:41, Peter Toye wrote: Issue with downloaded manuals I've downloaded the big file HTML version of some manuals, and the links in the table of contents frame to the left of the window refer to the LilyPond web site, rather than the local copy. The links in the main text refer to the local copy. This is a bit of a pain if the internet's being slow (or possibly it's the servers), as well as a bit confusing. Is this meant to happen? The manuals I've tried are the learning, motation and internals. If it's of any use to you, I've created fully indexed and searchable PDF portfolios of the complete documentation sets (Learning, Notation, Usage, Snippets, Web, Extending, and Internals). About 55Mb each: 2.18 docs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6mrdnashy3zxgq2/lilydoc-2.18.0.pdf 2.19 docs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xlxd2qbrcyoj73/lilydoc-2.19.3.pdf You'll need Adobe Reader 9 or later in order to use them effectively - third party PDF readers can't cope with PDF portfolios. Nick ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
