Re: anchors in the music stream?
2009/8/4 Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com: I can imagine how this would be implemented, but it would be a lot of work. If anyone is up for a challenge, I can give some pointers. :) OK, now there's no way I'm gonna let you get away with such a promise :-) http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=824 Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: anchors in the music stream?
Jay Anderson wrote:
global =
{
\time 4/4 s4*4*10
\time 3/4 s4*3*5
\time 7/4 s4*7
\time 4/4 \anchor #'coda s4*4*10
\bar |.
}
\addAt #'coda \global {\tempo \markup Extremely slow}
IIUC, one interesting advantage of this is that scheme symbols
have less restrictions than parser identifiers:
\anchor #'m.32
\anchor #'flute2-entrance
- Mark
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Re: anchors in the music stream?
IIUC, one interesting advantage of this is that scheme symbols have less restrictions than parser identifiers: \anchor #'m.32 \anchor #'flute2-entrance Mhmm, this is not something we should advertize loudly... Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: anchors in the music stream?
Werner LEMBERG wrote: IIUC, one interesting advantage of this is that scheme symbols have less restrictions than parser identifiers: \anchor #'m.32 \anchor #'flute2-entrance Mhmm, this is not something we should advertize loudly... Why not? - Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: anchors in the music stream?
IIUC, one interesting advantage of this is that scheme symbols have less restrictions than parser identifiers: \anchor #'m.32 \anchor #'flute2-entrance Mhmm, this is not something we should advertize loudly... Why not? I believe it confuses users that Scheme code allows more symbols compared to LilyPond code. It should be mentioned in the docs, of course. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: anchors in the music stream?
Werner LEMBERG wrote:
Would it be technically feasible/possible to establish a system of
anchors instead?
This would be indeed a great feature!
Reminds me of the GOTO command in BASIC! ;-)
Seriously, I seem to recall that I proposed this feature some 11-12
years ago and at that Han-Wen at that time answered with a No!!! (I
don't remember any details and this was long before we started using
mailing list archives).
One alternative way to achieve the same thing is to simply do a
global =
{
\time 4/4 s4*4*10
\time 3/4 s4*3*5
\time 7/4 s4*7
{ \time 4/4
\bar |. }
\anchoredStuff
}
/Mats
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Re: anchors in the music stream?
Hi Mats,
Reminds me of the GOTO command in BASIC! ;-)
An *extremely* underrated and powerful command. ;-p
One alternative way to achieve the same thing is to simply do a
global =
{
\time 4/4 s4*4*10
\time 3/4 s4*3*5
\time 7/4 s4*7
{ \time 4/4
\bar |. }
\anchoredStuff
}
Nope: that is *not* an alternative way to achieve the same thing...
that's a way of doing something that *appears* to be the same thing. =)
Cheers,
Kieren.
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Re: anchors in the music stream?
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Mats Bengtssonmats.bengts...@ee.kth.se wrote: Reminds me of the GOTO command in BASIC! ;-) Seriously, I seem to recall that I proposed this feature some 11-12 years ago and at that Han-Wen at that time answered with a No!!! (I don't remember any details and this was long before we started using mailing list archives). I can imagine how this would be implemented, but it would be a lot of work. If anyone is up for a challenge, I can give some pointers. :) -- Han-Wen Nienhuys - han...@xs4all.nl - http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanwen ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: anchors in the music stream?
Would it be technically feasible/possible to establish a system of anchors instead? This would be indeed a great feature! Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: anchors in the music stream?
Kieren MacMillan wrote: Like many Lilyponders, I break down my code into variables, e.g. global (for time signature changes, etc.), notes, dynamics, etc. The main irritation with this (IMO) is that each variable requires a complete set of skips in order to keep the timing accurate. Would it be technically feasible/possible to establish a system of anchors instead? That is, could we declare an anchor point in the global setup, and then refer to it in other code? Have you tried using the \tag command? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Different-editions-from-one-source#Using-tags - Mark ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: anchors in the music stream?
Hi Mark, Have you tried using the \tag command? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Different- editions-from-one-source#Using-tags Certainly I've used \tag for filtering content, but I don't understand how \tag could help with the problem I'm describing... could you elaborate on what you're thinking? Thanks, Kieren. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: anchors in the music stream?
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Kieren
MacMillankieren_macmil...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Hello all,
Like many Lilyponders, I break down my code into variables, e.g. global (for
time signature changes, etc.), notes, dynamics, etc. The main irritation
with this (IMO) is that each variable requires a complete set of skips in
order to keep the timing accurate.
Would it be technically feasible/possible to establish a system of anchors
instead? That is, could we declare an anchor point in the global setup, and
then refer to it in other code? e.g.
global =
{
\time 4/4 s4*4*10
\time 3/4 s4*3*5
\time 7/4 s4*7
\time 4/4 \anchor #'coda s4*4*10
\bar |.
}
tempoChanges =
{
\tempo \markup Opening tempo
\anchorTo #'coda \tempo \markup Extremely slow
}
??
Just a brainstorm from someone who doesn't understand the internals enough
to immediately see the stupidity of this idea... =)
That's a neat idea. It might be easier to do something like:
global =
{
\time 4/4 s4*4*10
\time 3/4 s4*3*5
\time 7/4 s4*7
\time 4/4 \anchor #'coda s4*4*10
\bar |.
}
\addAt #'coda \global {\tempo \markup Extremely slow}
Then the addAt function could weave the tempo in at the correct point.
Though I'm not sure how easy this would be either.
=
I've thought about something similar before and I think anchors would
be a good syntax (I don't know about the internals) to make it work:
global = {s1*4 \anchor #'place s1*4}
part = \relative c' {c1 c c c \assertAt #'place c c c c \assertEnd}
anotherPart = \relative c' {e1 e e \assertAt #'place e e e e \assertEnd} %Error
\score { \new Staff{ \global \part } \new Staff{ \global
\anotherPart } }
This would work similar to bar checks. Errors would be thrown when the
anchor and assertion don't line up. I think this might be more
complicated than the above use.
In any case I think anchors could be very useful for a variety of purposes.
-Jay
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