Re: [lyric sheet stylesheet] fixing lyric spacing
Hi, On 07.12.18 19:27, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Alex, David's and Mike's "magnetic snapping lyrics"? https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2014-03/msg00489.html Yes — I have an old copy in my "Workarounds" include folder. But I ran into a lot of problems with it (maybe related to what Urs found?) and so had temporarily given up on it. Jeez, I should have remembered that... Perhaps the issue is/was https://github.com/openlilylib/snippets/pull/128 ? If so, there's a chance that the modifications/fixes were indeed quasi-local on my version of that file. To see in action: http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Es_ist_ein_Ros%27_entsprungen_(Melchior_Vulpius) Okay… first of all: What a gorgeous score! Fabulous font choices, spacing is perfect, whitespace is excellent. Well done. Thanks. But there's really not so much credit for me to earn here: Just stick to pre-1700 scores, plain SATB, no instruments, no fancy graphics, no Schenker graphs, and preferably at most one page. You'll suddenly be surprised to find that Lily is both great by default and reasonably pleasant to use. ;-) But I only ever used it in the "usual" applications with notes, and never tried on a pure chord sheet. I’ll let you know how it works out! Sure. Good luck! Cheers, Alex smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [lyric sheet stylesheet] fixing lyric spacing
On 12/7/18, 12:10 PM, "Kieren MacMillan" wrote:
Hi Carl,
> I've just been doing some choral engraving where lyric hyphens are
eliminated where there is no space. And I haven't used any special tools.
But if you look at "people" (for example), you’ll see there’s a space (but
no hyphen) there.
I’m trying to generate "perfect" words.
Right. It appears to me that there are two things going on. One when there is
no space for a hyphen, but there is space for the syllable. And another where
there is no space for the syllable (and hence not for the hyphen either). I
only get perfect words when the syllable space exceeds the note space. By
increasing the font size, people becomes a "perfect" word.
\version "2.19.80"
global = {
\key g \major
\numericTimeSignature
\time 3/4
}
bass = \relative c {
\global
% Music follows here.
r4 r d4 |
g8 g16( fis) g4. a8 |
b8 c d4 r8 d |
c8 b g( d4) e8 |
f8 g f4 r8 r |
}
bassVerse = \lyricmode {
% Lyrics follow here.
Good peo -- ple __ all, this Christ -- mas -- time
Con -- si -- der well __ and bear in mind
}
\score { <<
\new Staff = "tb" {
\clef bass
\new Voice = "bass" {\bass}
}
\new Lyrics \with{
\override LyricText #'font-size = #2
} \lyricsto "bass" \bassVerse
>>
\layout{}
}
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Re: [lyric sheet stylesheet] fixing lyric spacing
Hi Carl, > I've just been doing some choral engraving where lyric hyphens are eliminated > where there is no space. And I haven't used any special tools. But if you look at "people" (for example), you’ll see there’s a space (but no hyphen) there. I’m trying to generate "perfect" words. Thanks, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [lyric sheet stylesheet] fixing lyric spacing
On 12/7/18, 11:19 AM, "Alexander Kobel" wrote:
Hi Kieren,
without even looking at your example, to be honest, but a shot in the dark:
Fo you still remember David's and Mike's "magnetic snapping lyrics"?
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2014-03/msg00489.html
This snippet eventually went into OpenLilyLib, and was apparently
rediscovered as non-working about a year ago by Urs, see
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Is-the-lyric-syllable-magnetic-snap-snippet-obsolete-td204403.html
I've just been doing some choral engraving where lyric hyphens are eliminated
where there is no space. And I haven't used any special tools. It may only
work where \textWidthOn has added space to the notes.
Consider Christmastime in the following snippet.
Carl
\version "2.19.80"
global = {
\key g \major
\numericTimeSignature
\time 3/4
}
bass = \relative c {
\global
% Music follows here.
r4 r d4 |
g8 g16( fis) g4. a8 |
b8 c d4 r8 d |
c8 b g( d4) e8 |
f8 g f4 r8 r |
}
bassVerse = \lyricmode {
% Lyrics follow here.
Good peo -- ple __ all, this Christ -- mas -- time
Con -- si -- der well __ and bear in mind
}
\score { <<
\new Staff = "tb" {
\clef bass
\new Voice = "bass" {\bass}
}
\new Lyrics \with{
\override LyricText #'font-size = #-1
} \lyricsto "bass" \bassVerse
>>
\layout{}
}
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Re: [lyric sheet stylesheet] fixing lyric spacing
Hi Alex, > David's and Mike's "magnetic snapping lyrics"? > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2014-03/msg00489.html Yes — I have an old copy in my "Workarounds" include folder. But I ran into a lot of problems with it (maybe related to what Urs found?) and so had temporarily given up on it. > I attach my most recent copy... Thanks! I’ll see whether it helps. > To see in action: > http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Es_ist_ein_Ros%27_entsprungen_(Melchior_Vulpius) Okay… first of all: What a gorgeous score! Fabulous font choices, spacing is perfect, whitespace is excellent. Well done. > But I only ever used it in the "usual" applications with notes, and never > tried on a pure chord sheet. I’ll let you know how it works out! Thanks, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
Re: [lyric sheet stylesheet] fixing lyric spacing
Hi Kieren,
without even looking at your example, to be honest, but a shot in the dark:
Fo you still remember David's and Mike's "magnetic snapping lyrics"?
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2014-03/msg00489.html
This snippet eventually went into OpenLilyLib, and was apparently
rediscovered as non-working about a year ago by Urs, see
http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Is-the-lyric-syllable-magnetic-snap-snippet-obsolete-td204403.html
Not sure about the problems that are claimed to exist, and not sure
where I got my last version from or whether I privately patched it; but
I couldn't find any issues with it few weeks ago. I attach my most
recent copy...
To be used with, IIRC, \include and
\layout {
\context {
\Lyrics
\override LyricWord.after-line-breaking = #(lyric-word-compressor 0)
}
}
(and I have no idea anymore what's the 0 got to do with it, and what
changes if you use other values...)
To see in action:
http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Es_ist_ein_Ros%27_entsprungen_(Melchior_Vulpius)
- first system: entsprung -- en (instead of ent -- sprung -- en)
- last system: Blümlein (instead of Blüm -- lein)
(source files are there, too)
But I only ever used it in the "usual" applications with notes, and
never tried on a pure chord sheet.
HTH nevertheless,
Alex
On 12/07/2018 06:18 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote:
Hi all,
In the snippet below, I’m trying to develop some custom contexts so that people
can write out lyrics with chords (but no music).
Right now, I’m trying to fix two things:
1. I want to eliminate all LyricHyphens entirely, and present words as complete words
(rather than syllables). This would be solved, of course, if we had a "first-class
citizen" LyricWord grob (q.v. the discussion a few years ago during Janek’s GSOC
Lyrics work). Short of that, what can I do to squeeze out all LyricHyphens and spaces
between syllables?
2. I want lyrics to be naturally spaced (i.e., not affected at all by the duration of the
notes they are attached to). In the first line of output from the snippet, there are
spaces "Mary had a little lamb" etc. How can I eliminate those?
Thanks,
Kieren.
%%% SNIPPET BEGINS
\version "2.19.80"
\paper {
indent = 0
ragged-right = ##t
system-system-spacing = #'((basic-distance . 6) (minimum-distance . 6)
(padding . 2.5) (stretchability . 0))
score-system-spacing.padding = #12
}
\layout {
\context {
\ChordNames
\override ChordName.font-name = #"Alegreya Medium"
\override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-affinity = #DOWN
\override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 2.5) (minimum-distance . 2.5) (padding . 1.25)
(stretchability . 0))
}
\context {
\Lyrics
\override LyricText.font-name = #"Alegreya"
\override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-affinity = #UP
\override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 5.5) (minimum-distance . 5.5) (padding . 1.25)
(stretchability . 0))
}
\context {
\ChordNames
\name LyricSheetChords
\alias ChordNames
\inherit-acceptability LyricSheetChords ChordNames
\override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-nonstaff-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 1) (minimum-distance . 1) (padding . 1)
(stretchability . 0))
}
\context {
\Lyrics
\name LyricSheetLyrics
\alias Lyrics
\inherit-acceptability LyricSheetLyrics Lyrics
\override VerticalAxisGroup.staff-affinity = #UP
\override VerticalAxisGroup.nonstaff-relatedstaff-spacing =
#'((basic-distance . 3) (minimum-distance . 3) (padding . 2)
(stretchability . 0))
\override LyricText.self-alignment-X = #-0.9
\override LyricSpace.minimum-distance = #0.625
\override LyricSpace.minimum-length = #0.5
}
}
theMelody = {
e'4 d' c' d'
e'4 4 4 4
d'4 4 e' d'
c'2 r4 d'
e'4 d' c' d'
e'4 4 4 4
d'4 4 e' d'
c'2. r4
}
theChords = \chordmode {
c2 f
c1
d2:m g
c1
c2 f
c1
d2:m g
c1
}
lyricsbreak = \tag #'lyricsheet { \bar "" \break }
theWords = \lyricmode {
Mar -- y had a lit -- tle lamb,
\lyricsbreak
Its fleece was white as snow.
\lyricsbreak
And ev -- ery -- where that Mar -- y went
\lyricsbreak
The lamb was sure to go.
}
\score {
\removeWithTag #'lyricsheet <<
\new ChordNames \theChords
\new Staff \new Voice = "melody" \theMelody
\new Lyrics \lyricsto "melody" \theWords
>>
\layout {
ragged-right = ##f
}
}
\score {
\keepWithTag #'lyricsheet <<
\new ChordNames \theChords
\new Devnull = "melody" \theMelody
\new LyricSheetLyrics \lyricsto "melody" \theWords
>>
\layout {
line-width = 6\in
indent = 2\in
short-indent = 2\in
\context {
\Score
\remove "Bar_number_engraver"
\remove "Bar_engraver"
}
}
}
%%% SNIPPET ENDS
Kieren MacMillan,
