Re: Acciaccatura question/issue
As a further aside, because these are graces, there's nothing wrong with having them as 16s but they are not really tuplets three in the space of 2 because the whole point is they occupy no notation time. They'd be clearer just as 3 16s. People like Chopin have long grace runs with maybe 17 notes but not written as tuplet. Andrew
Re: Acciaccatura question/issue
Turning this into compilable code with a couple of braces, directly copied from you post, works just fine for me with lilypond 2.23.10. Given they are tuplets technically they are really graces not appogiaturas, but that has no bearing on your issue. And yes it is correct that notation wise graces and appogiaturas occupy no musical time in a bar. Andrew
Re: Acciaccatura question/issue
Unfortunately I don't think I can. I can post/send the entire thing
which will drive everyone hatefully crazy that's why I just took the
part that didn't do what I expected. The first measure is correct with
4 quarters in the bar the second one doesn't only 3 with the
acciaccatura. I use a lot of partials in this piece (or set of pieces)
and up to this point everything compiles as expected so if you have an
idea of how much of this to send great otherwise I'm stuck, because it
doesn't work in context of the whole.
Jay
BTW thank you for responding. And I'm happy to know that my ancient
understanding of the ornament is still current.
J
On 2022-07-15 17:38, Knute Snortum wrote:
On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 3:34 PM jh wrote:
using 2.22.2 in fresco, my very old understanding of grace and
acciaccatura is that they receive no duration value in a measure.
That's correct.
the
following Minimal example using forget for accidentals when compiled
allows only 3 quarter notes in a 4/4 bar. I changed the 8ths in the
acciaccatura to 16ths in case that was the problem but that's not the
solution.
~
4^\markup {IX}
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes16 ges aes}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes'16 ges f}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {ges'16 f d}} bes>4\fermata\bar
"||"
d'8 f es16 ces bes8 aes ces bes16 ges f8 es4 ~ \bar
"||"
So what don't I understand?
Here's your code slightly modified so that it actually compiles:
\version "2.22.2"
\relative {
4^\markup {IX}
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes16 ges aes}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes'16 ges f}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {ges'16 f d}} 4\fermata\bar
"||"
d'8 f es16 ces bes8 aes ces bes16 ges f8 es4 ~ \bar "||"
}
I don't see any problem with this code and no errors are produced when
I compile it. Can't you post a minimal *working* example that
demonstrates the problem? (Working, as is "it will compile").
--
Knute Snortum
Re: Acciaccatura question/issue
On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 3:34 PM jh wrote:
>
> using 2.22.2 in fresco, my very old understanding of grace and
> acciaccatura is that they receive no duration value in a measure.
That's correct.
> the
> following Minimal example using forget for accidentals when compiled
> allows only 3 quarter notes in a 4/4 bar. I changed the 8ths in the
> acciaccatura to 16ths in case that was the problem but that's not the
> solution.
> ~
> 4^\markup {IX}
> \acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes16 ges aes}} 4
> \acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes'16 ges f}} 4
> \acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {ges'16 f d}} 4\fermata\bar
> "||"
> d'8 f es16 ces bes8 aes ces bes16 ges f8 es4 ~ \bar
> "||"
>
> So what don't I understand?
Here's your code slightly modified so that it actually compiles:
\version "2.22.2"
\relative {
4^\markup {IX}
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes16 ges aes}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {aes'16 ges f}} 4
\acciaccatura {\times 2/3 {ges'16 f d}} 4\fermata\bar "||"
d'8 f es16 ces bes8 aes ces bes16 ges f8 es4 ~ \bar "||"
}
I don't see any problem with this code and no errors are produced when
I compile it. Can't you post a minimal *working* example that
demonstrates the problem? (Working, as is "it will compile").
--
Knute Snortum
