Re: What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?

2013-11-10 Thread Michael Rivers
Adding the additional space via markup worked. Is this an issue I should
create a bug tracker for?



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Re: What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?

2013-11-10 Thread Keith OHara
Michael Rivers michaeljrivers at gmail.com writes:

 Adding the additional space via markup worked. Is this an issue I should
 create a bug tracker for?

There is a close one
 http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=1702

LilyPond's strategy, spacing the staves and then deciding how to set the
beams, does a good job on the examples there if you remove the forced
stem directions.  The strategy does not work so well when the beam is
forced between staves.



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Re: What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?

2013-11-09 Thread Peter Bjuhr


On 11/09/2013 09:24 AM, Michael Rivers wrote:

Here is the 28th bar of an etude by Rachmaninoff:


What would be the best way of fixing this output? The space between the
staves is fine for all but this system and one other with the same problem.




Could you post the same bar from an edition of the score?

Best
Peter


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Re: What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?

2013-11-09 Thread Michael Rivers
Thanks for the reply. My scanner's broken, but there are two scans of the
Rachmaninoff prelude at IMSLP:
http://imslp.org/wiki/Etudes-tableaux,_Op.33_%28Rachmaninoff,_Sergei%29

The first edition at IMSLP lists the G minor prelude as the 8th prelude; the
second one lists it as the 7th prelude.

In the second edition (which is a little better), it's the 7th etude, 3rd
page, 3rd system. It's pretty clear what's wrong with the Lilypond output:
the beams cross right over the note heads. 

http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/file/n153592/Rachmaninoff_Prelude_Op._33_No._7_clip.png
 



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Re: What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?

2013-11-09 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Mr. Rivers,

 

Attached is my solution. Might not be the best, yet may give some ideas.

 

Mark

\version 2.16.2

global = {
  \key bes \major
  \time 4/4
}

right = \relative c'' {
  \global
  
  r32 aes, c fis c'8
  \change Staff = left
  \stemUp
  d,,32 [ ees f g ]
  \change Staff = right
  \stemNeutral
  c ees g, ees 
  \change Staff = left
  \stemUp
  bes [ ees bes' g ] 
  \change Staff = right 
  c g' ees g, 
  \change Staff = left
  aes, [ c f ees ]
  g c ees, c |
  
}

left = \relative c' {
  \global
  
  ees,8 fis32 g b c
  \stemDown
  d,8 c bes4 aes8 g |
  
}

\score {
  \new PianoStaff 
\new Staff = right \right
\new Staff = left { \clef bass \left }
  
  \layout { }
}
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Re: What's the best way to fix these beams and staff spacing?

2013-11-09 Thread Michael Rivers
Thanks for the solutions. Mark -- that's the kind of solution I used the last
time this came up in a score, but this time I'd like to show which hand
Rachmaninoff wants the notes played with. Keith -- I do have a dynamic
context, so I'll try putting in some blank space that way.



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