Re: Re:Quoted music and midi (Cynthia Karl)

2015-05-13 Thread Phil Holmes
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From: 70147pers...@telia.com


However I found a bug report from already 2012, issue 2250, 
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2250. There one 
proposes a workaround, (\set Score.quotedEventTypes = #'(StreamEvent 
note-event rest-event) ). That helped me a wee, but not the whole way out, 
unfortunately.


/Kaj



I've just marked that as a duplicate of Issue 4343, which was fixed in 
2.19.19.


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Re: Re:Quoted music and midi (Cynthia Karl)

2015-05-13 Thread 70147persson

On 2015-03-16 02:02, Cynthia Karl wrote:

Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 16:00:10 -0600
From: Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com
Subject: Re: Quoted music and midi

I wouldn?t consider that a problem... if I quote the violin part in a
trumpet part, I wouldn?t expect to hear the brass honking away in the
MIDI rendition.  Quoting, IMO, is best for cues, not for actual
duplicating played music.

~Chris

Here's what the Notation Manual has to say about quoteDuring:


Quoting other voices
It is very common for one voice to use the same notes as those from another 
voice. For example,
first and second violins playing the same phrase during a particular passage of 
the music. This
is done by letting one voice quote the other, without having to re-enter the 
music all over again
for the second voice.

It doesn't say anything about borrowing the midiInstrument as well as quoting 
the notes.  It seems to me that the snippet I submitted is exactly the 
situation described by the NM.  The only question is, why no midi output for 
the quoted notes?

Poke.

Really?  Nobody (else) has an opinion on this (that agrees with mine)?  Am I 
qualified to submit a bug report?  I have read some comments that imply that 
bug reports from Joe User are not welcome.


Hi Cynthia

I saw your message first now, as I have run into the same problems, and 
was searching for feedback from the community. At the time of your 
writing, I had other issues. I must say the comments from Chris and H. 
S. Teoh were not too clever. They have obviously not discovered the 
point, if this tool works as intended, not having to divide the music 
into a lot of separate parts, which else has to be done as a workaround.


However I found a bug report from already 2012, issue 2250, 
https://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2250. There one 
proposes a workaround, (\set Score.quotedEventTypes = #'(StreamEvent 
note-event rest-event) ). That helped me a wee, but not the whole way 
out, unfortunately.


/Kaj

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Re:Quoted music and midi (Cynthia Karl)

2015-03-16 Thread Carl Sorensen
Cynthia Karl wrote:

 Poke.

 Really?  Nobody (else) has an opinion on this (that agrees with mine)?
Am I 
 qualified to submit a bug report?  I have read some comments that imply
that 
 bug reports from Joe User are not welcome.


Please *do* fill out a bug report.  In looking at the Notation Reference
1.6.3, it's clear that the usage you are proposing is consistent with the
recommended usage.  I guess what you'd really like to have is the quoted
notes in the MIDI settings of the voice to which they are quoted.  Your
original report on lilypond-user appeared to be a pretty good bug report.
I believe you could send it to bug-lilypond and it would be accepted.

But just because it is accepted doesn't mean it will be worked on.  We
have a very limited developer community.

Thanks,

Carl


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Re:Quoted music and midi (Cynthia Karl)

2015-03-15 Thread Cynthia Karl

 Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 16:00:10 -0600
 From: Cynthia Karl pck...@mac.com
 Subject: Re: Quoted music and midi

 I wouldn?t consider that a problem... if I quote the violin part in a
 trumpet part, I wouldn?t expect to hear the brass honking away in the
 MIDI rendition.  Quoting, IMO, is best for cues, not for actual
 duplicating played music.
 
 ~Chris
 
 Here's what the Notation Manual has to say about quoteDuring:
 
 Quoting other voices
 
 It is very common for one voice to use the same notes as those from another 
 voice. For example,
 first and second violins playing the same phrase during a particular passage 
 of the music. This
 is done by letting one voice quote the other, without having to re-enter the 
 music all over again
 for the second voice.
 
 It doesn't say anything about borrowing the midiInstrument as well as quoting 
 the notes.  It seems to me that the snippet I submitted is exactly the 
 situation described by the NM.  The only question is, why no midi output for 
 the quoted notes?

Poke.

Really?  Nobody (else) has an opinion on this (that agrees with mine)?  Am I 
qualified to submit a bug report?  I have read some comments that imply that 
bug reports from Joe User are not welcome.


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