Re: Reduce vertical space between \score's?

[PMA]

PMA wrote:

PMA wrote:

Abraham Lee wrote:

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Kieren MacMillan
 wrote:

Hi Pete,


Trouble is, the vertical space between \score's is too big.
This was not so in the original version (2.12.3), but is
now after my upgrade to version 2.18.2.

Is it possible to reduce LP-1.18.2's default value for the
vertical space between \score blocks?


Have you thoroughly read




??

If so, what are your questions, specifically?

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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If the vertical spacing is really your question, then you'll find this
helpful (with the description in the link that Kieren provided.

Regards,
Abraham


Thanks Abraham & Kieren!

My issue was, How can I reduce the vertical space between the last
(actually the only) system of a \score and the top (only) system of
the next. After scrounging in paper-defaults-init.ly as suggested, I
found what I needed to tease: params for "score-markup-spacing".
Now my between-score spaces have the needed reduction!

For the record, extra fuss was forced by documentation var names
NOT matching those in paper-defaults-init.ly.

That latter lists: But the doc page lists:
between-system-spacing markup-system-spacing
between-scores-system-spacing* score-markup-spacing*
after-title-spacing score-system-spacing
before-title-spacing system-system-spacing
between-title-spacing markup-markup-spacing
top-system-spacing last-bottom-spacing
top-title-spacing top-system-spacing
bottom-system-spacing top-markup-spacing

* The Left var's param-set here turned out to work with the Right
varname. But I suspect this same-line matchup was due to luck.
Maybe those Right names -- improvements, I reckon -- could get
due mention in the init file.

Thanks again for steering me!
Pete


Uh-oh. No, the result is _no_ different. My eyes
must be tired. I'll experiment more tomorrow.

P


Hi Abraham & Kieren!

Editing an example to send you, and sniffing
more in the LP docs, I happened to trip over
" #(set-global-staff-size 20) ".

When I told my score to reduce that default
by 1, the vertical-space problem evaporated.

So my original question -- How reduce space
between same-page \score's? -- is moot, at
least for this time around.

Thanks, tho, for your responses.
Pete

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Re: Reduce vertical space between \score's?

[Janek Warchoł]

2014-08-08 19:44 GMT+02:00 PMA :
> P.S.  I should ask alternatively: Is there a way that
> "proportionalNotationDuration...make-moment..."
> can be reset _per system_ (assuming now a multi-
> system \score)?

As Abraham wrote, you should use \newSpacingSection:

\score {
  <<
\new RhythmicStaff {
  \set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1/20)
  c2 16 16 16 16 \tuplet 5/4 { 16 16 16 16 16 }
  \newSpacingSection
  \set Score.proportionalNotationDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1/30)
  c2 16 16 16 16 \tuplet 5/4 { 16 16 16 16 16 }
}
  >>
}

hth,
Janek

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Re: Reduce vertical space between \score's?

[PMA]

PMA wrote:

Abraham Lee wrote:

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Kieren MacMillan
 wrote:

Hi Pete,


Trouble is, the vertical space between \score's is too big.
This was not so in the original version (2.12.3), but is
now after my upgrade to version 2.18.2.

Is it possible to reduce LP-1.18.2's default value for the
vertical space between \score blocks?


Have you thoroughly read



??

If so, what are your questions, specifically?

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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If the vertical spacing is really your question, then you'll find this
helpful (with the description in the link that Kieren provided.

Regards,
Abraham


Thanks Abraham & Kieren!

My issue was, How can I reduce the vertical space between the last
(actually the only) system of a \score and the top (only) system of
the next. After scrounging in paper-defaults-init.ly as suggested, I
found what I needed to tease: params for "score-markup-spacing".
Now my between-score spaces have the needed reduction!

For the record, extra fuss was forced by documentation var names
NOT matching those in paper-defaults-init.ly.

That latter lists: But the doc page lists:
between-system-spacing markup-system-spacing
between-scores-system-spacing* score-markup-spacing*
after-title-spacing score-system-spacing
before-title-spacing system-system-spacing
between-title-spacing markup-markup-spacing
top-system-spacing last-bottom-spacing
top-title-spacing top-system-spacing
bottom-system-spacing top-markup-spacing

* The Left var's param-set here turned out to work with the Right
varname. But I suspect this same-line matchup was due to luck.
Maybe those Right names -- improvements, I reckon -- could get
due mention in the init file.

Thanks again for steering me!
Pete


Uh-oh.  No, the result is _no_ different.  My eyes
must be tired.  I'll experiment more tomorrow.

P

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Re: Reduce vertical space between \score's?

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Pete,

> For the record, extra fuss was forced by documentation var names
> NOT matching those in paper-defaults-init.ly.

Did you use convert-ly to “upgrade” your files from 2.12 to 2.18?
If so, I’m surprised it didn’t upgrade those property names for you...

> * The Left var's param-set here turned out to work with the Right
> varname.  But I suspect this same-line matchup was due to luck.
> Maybe those Right names -- improvements, I reckon -- could get
> due mention in the init file.

If you look at paper-defaults-init.ly [or its equivalent] from v2.12, I’m 
certain the Left names would appear there. In other words, I believe your 
difficulties were due to your upgrade path, and not to documentation problems.

Best regards,
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Re: Reduce vertical space between \score's?

[PMA]

Abraham Lee wrote:

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Kieren MacMillan
 wrote:

Hi Pete,


Trouble is, the vertical space between \score's is too big.
This was not so in the original version (2.12.3), but is
now after my upgrade to version 2.18.2.

Is it possible to reduce LP-1.18.2's default value for the
vertical space between \score blocks?


Have you thoroughly read


??

If so, what are your questions, specifically?

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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email: i...@kierenmacmillan.info
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If the vertical spacing is really your question, then you'll find this
helpful (with the description in the link that Kieren provided.

Regards,
Abraham


Thanks Abraham & Kieren!

My issue was, How can I reduce the vertical space between the last
(actually the only) system of a \score and the top (only) system of
the next.  After scrounging in paper-defaults-init.ly as suggested, I
found what I needed to tease: params for "score-markup-spacing".
Now my between-score spaces have the needed reduction!

For the record, extra fuss was forced by documentation var names
NOT matching those in paper-defaults-init.ly.

That latter lists:  But the doc page lists:
between-system-spacing  markup-system-spacing
between-scores-system-spacing*  score-markup-spacing*
after-title-spacing score-system-spacing
before-title-spacingsystem-system-spacing
between-title-spacing   markup-markup-spacing
top-system-spacing  last-bottom-spacing
top-title-spacing   top-system-spacing
bottom-system-spacing   top-markup-spacing

* The Left var's param-set here turned out to work with the Right
varname.  But I suspect this same-line matchup was due to luck.
Maybe those Right names -- improvements, I reckon -- could get
due mention in the init file.

Thanks again for steering me!
Pete

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Re: Reduce vertical space between \score's?

[Abraham Lee]

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Kieren MacMillan 
 wrote:

Hi Pete,


 Trouble is, the vertical space between \score's is too big.
 This was not so in the original version (2.12.3), but is
 now after my upgrade to version 2.18.2.
 
 Is it possible to reduce LP-1.18.2's default value for the

 vertical space between \score blocks?


Have you thoroughly read

??

If so, what are your questions, specifically?

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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If the vertical spacing is really your question, then you'll find this 
helpful (with the description in the link that Kieren provided.


Regards,
Abraham


vertical-spacing-paper-variables.pdf
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Re: Reduce vertical space between \score's?

[Kieren MacMillan]

Hi Pete,

> Trouble is, the vertical space between \score's is too big.
> This was not so in the original version (2.12.3), but is
> now after my upgrade to version 2.18.2.
> 
> Is it possible to reduce LP-1.18.2's default value for the
> vertical space between \score blocks?

Have you thoroughly read

??

If so, what are your questions, specifically?

Hope this helps!
Kieren.
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Re: Reduce vertical space between \score's?

[Abraham Lee]

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:44 AM, PMA  
wrote:

P.S.  I should ask alternatively: Is there a way that
"proportionalNotationDuration...make-moment..."
can be reset _per system_ (assuming now a multi-
system \score)?

PMA wrote:

Hi List.

An *.ly of mine has four 1-system \score's on each page,
rather than one 4-system \score, because each system's
"Score.proportionalNotationDuration...make-moment..."
setting is different (and \score accepts only one such
setting).

Trouble is, the vertical space between \score's is too big.
This was not so in the original version (2.12.3), but is
now after my upgrade to version 2.18.2.

Is it possible to reduce LP-1.18.2's default value for the
vertical space between \score blocks?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Pete



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Peter,

If you would be so kind to provide a small example of what you are 
trying to accomplish, we should be able to help you better.


Regards,
Abraham

P.S. Have you tried using "\newSpacingSection"?

http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/new-spacing-area.html

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Re: Reduce vertical space between \score's?

[PMA]

P.S.  I should ask alternatively: Is there a way that
"proportionalNotationDuration...make-moment..."
can be reset _per system_ (assuming now a multi-
system \score)?

PMA wrote:

Hi List.

An *.ly of mine has four 1-system \score's on each page,
rather than one 4-system \score, because each system's
"Score.proportionalNotationDuration...make-moment..."
setting is different (and \score accepts only one such
setting).

Trouble is, the vertical space between \score's is too big.
This was not so in the original version (2.12.3), but is
now after my upgrade to version 2.18.2.

Is it possible to reduce LP-1.18.2's default value for the
vertical space between \score blocks?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Pete



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Reduce vertical space between \score's?

[PMA]

Hi List.

An *.ly of mine has four 1-system \score's on each page,
rather than one 4-system \score, because each system's
"Score.proportionalNotationDuration...make-moment..."
setting is different (and \score accepts only one such
setting).

Trouble is, the vertical space between \score's is too big.
This was not so in the original version (2.12.3), but is
now after my upgrade to version 2.18.2.

Is it possible to reduce LP-1.18.2's default value for the
vertical space between \score blocks?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
Pete

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