Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-25 Thread Andrew Bernard 
Hi Manuela,

That works of course. I think I use \shape and \shapeII more than anyone in
existence!  I find these functions necessary and indispensable.

But I suppose the difficulty of asking questions is hat often we don't make
out implicit assumptions explicit. What was rather hoping is that, what you
would naturally expect when telling the tuplet bracket to avoid the slur is
that it should actually, ah, avoid the slur, yet it manifestly does not.

So is this a bug or a defect or just bad behaviour in lilypond? What is
really going here? I confess I have not done thorough searches of the bug
list about this before posting, but perhaps someone who knows could
illuminate?

Andrew



On 25 April 2017 at 16:29, Manuela Gößnitzer 
wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> sorry for the noise.
> You may add TupletBracket.staff-padding, e.g.
>
> \version "2.19.48"
> {
>   \override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #'outside
>   \override TupletBracket.staff-padding = #3
>   \shape #'((0 . -3.5) (0 . -2.5) (0 . -2) (0 . -2)) Slur
>   \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') }
> }
>
>
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Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-25 Thread Manuela Gößnitzer 
Sry, this was wrong, you wanted it the other way round.

\version "2.19.48"
{
  \override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #'outside
  \shape #'((0 . -1.5) (0 . -1.5) (0 . -1.5) (0 . -1.5)) Slur
  \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') }
}

Greetings,
Manuela

2017-04-25 8:17 GMT+02:00 Manuela Gößnitzer :

> Hi Andrew,
>
> the code you posted doesn't produce a bracket at all entered to
> lilybin.com
> Try this
>
> \version "2.19.48"
> {
>   \override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #'outside
>\shape #'((0 . 2) (0 . 2) (0 . 2) (0 . 2)) Slur
>   \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') }
> }
>
> Greeting,
> Manuela
>
> 2017-04-25 7:25 GMT+02:00 Andrew Bernard :
>
>> H Manuela,
>>
>> I did, naturally. The slur intersects the bracket, and commenting out the
>> override you show produces the same result as having it. So I don't think
>> this is the answer.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>>
>> On 25 April 2017 at 15:06, Manuela  wrote:
>>
>>> Try this code:
>>>
>>> \version "2.19.48"
>>> {
>>>   \override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #'outside
>>>   \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') }
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-25 Thread Manuela Gößnitzer 
Hi Andrew,

the code you posted doesn't produce a bracket at all entered to lilybin.com
Try this

\version "2.19.48"
{
  \override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #'outside
   \shape #'((0 . 2) (0 . 2) (0 . 2) (0 . 2)) Slur
  \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') }
}

Greeting,
Manuela

2017-04-25 7:25 GMT+02:00 Andrew Bernard :

> H Manuela,
>
> I did, naturally. The slur intersects the bracket, and commenting out the
> override you show produces the same result as having it. So I don't think
> this is the answer.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> On 25 April 2017 at 15:06, Manuela  wrote:
>
>> Try this code:
>>
>> \version "2.19.48"
>> {
>>   \override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #'outside
>>   \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') }
>> }
>>
>>
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Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-24 Thread Andrew Bernard 
H Manuela,

I did, naturally. The slur intersects the bracket, and commenting out the
override you show produces the same result as having it. So I don't think
this is the answer.

Andrew


On 25 April 2017 at 15:06, Manuela  wrote:

> Try this code:
>
> \version "2.19.48"
> {
>   \override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #'outside
>   \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') }
> }
>
>
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Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-24 Thread Manuela 
Try this code:

\version "2.19.48"
{
  \override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #'outside
  \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') }
}




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Slur inside tuplet bracket

2017-04-24 Thread Andrew Bernard 
Why does this mess up?
\version "2.19.59"

{
  \override TupletNumber.avoid-slur = #'outside
  \tuplet 5/4 { c''( bes' fis' d' ges') }
}

How do you get a slur to go inside a tuplet bracket?


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Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2015-04-19 Thread Calixte Faure 
Hi Andrew,

See here :
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/internals/tupletnumber

\override TupletNumber.avoid-slur = #'outside

Regards,
Calixte.

2015-04-19 6:22 GMT+02:00 Andrew Bernard andrew.bern...@gmail.com:

 How to get a slur inside a tuplet bracket, that is, closer to the notes
 that the tuplet bracket?

 Andrew



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Re: Slur inside tuplet bracket

2015-04-19 Thread Andrew Bernard 
Thank you!

I have been using 

\override TupletBracket.avoid-slur = #’outside

to no effect.

Why do you have to adjust the number but not the bracket? Not entirely obvious.

Andrew


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Slur inside tuplet bracket

2015-04-18 Thread Andrew Bernard 
How to get a slur inside a tuplet bracket, that is, closer to the notes that 
the tuplet bracket?

Andrew


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