Re: crescendi/decrescendi on one note in Lilypond? and how does a pianist do this?

2021-01-30 Thread Shane Brandes
You hit the note then after a slight delay step the sustain pedal all the
way down and then add vibrato. It gives on some nicely made pianos a nice
bloom of sound. The trick is going into the note or chord with no pedal at
all for the preceding short bit of music. Pictures at an Exhibition has
such a thing in the Catacombs movement that this can be used. Anyway, that
Is how I deal with the problem.

-Shane

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 8:21 PM Kenneth Wolcott 
wrote:

> Thank you all!
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 6:47 AM Noeck  wrote:
> >
> > >   How does a pianist do this?
> >
> > Scores can describe what a player should think or feel even though the
> > note fades on its own in this case.
> >
> > >   And, even more importantly, how to engrave this?
> >
> > You can search the list archives for "\after" a small function that can
> > make it easier to do that (easier than manually create two voices which
> > also works).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Joram
> >
>
>


Re: crescendi/decrescendi on one note in Lilypond? and how does a pianist do this?

2021-01-30 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Thank you all!

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 6:47 AM Noeck  wrote:
>
> >   How does a pianist do this?
>
> Scores can describe what a player should think or feel even though the
> note fades on its own in this case.
>
> >   And, even more importantly, how to engrave this?
>
> You can search the list archives for "\after" a small function that can
> make it easier to do that (easier than manually create two voices which
> also works).
>
> Cheers,
> Joram
>



Re: crescendi/decrescendi on one note in Lilypond? and how does a pianist do this?

2021-01-30 Thread Noeck
>   How does a pianist do this?

Scores can describe what a player should think or feel even though the
note fades on its own in this case.

>   And, even more importantly, how to engrave this?

You can search the list archives for "\after" a small function that can
make it easier to do that (easier than manually create two voices which
also works).

Cheers,
Joram



Re: crescendi/decrescendi on one note in Lilypond? and how does a pianist do this?

2021-01-30 Thread David Nalesnik
Hi Ken,

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 12:28 AM Kenneth Wolcott
 wrote:
>
> Hello;
>
>   I have another simple engraving question.
>
>   I frequently see a crescendo or decrescendo on a single note
> (usually a whole note).
>
>   How does a pianist do this? I can see a wind instrument or even a
> string instrument doing this.

It can be a description of the resulting sound rather than an
instruction for the pianist to execute.  So just a visual reflection
of the fact that the note gets softer (of its own accord in the
sustained note here).

There's also the possibility that, for whatever reason--as a
psychological cue to the player, perhaps--something actually
impossible is being notated.  Something like (off the top of my head):

{
  a'1\p\<
  4->-.\f\!
}

But in your example, the decrescendo applies to both staves.  It looks
like there is motion in the cropped part.

(As an aside, there's interesting discussion of seemingly impossible
notation in early Romantic piano music in Rosen's The Romantic
Generation, IIRC.)

>
>   And, even more importantly, how to engrave this?
>

If there is music beyond, simply end the hairpin on the following note or rest:

\version "2.21.5"

{
  a'1\>
  R1\!
}

If there is nothing, you could use a trick like ending the hairpin on
a zero-length spacer:
{
  a'1\>
  s1*0\!
}

(BTW, since the hairpins apply to both staves, you might consider
using a Dynamics context.)

>   Two measure screenshot provided: first measure I understand; the
> second measure I don't.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken



crescendi/decrescendi on one note in Lilypond? and how does a pianist do this?

2021-01-29 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hello;

  I have another simple engraving question.

  I frequently see a crescendo or decrescendo on a single note
(usually a whole note).

  How does a pianist do this? I can see a wind instrument or even a
string instrument doing this.

  And, even more importantly, how to engrave this?

  Two measure screenshot provided: first measure I understand; the
second measure I don't.

Thanks,
Ken