Re: kind of OT: bach inventions
Thanks again. I was able to get all of the files from the Portuguese
mutopia.
I was initially looking for number 4, and once got that, I also worked on
number 1.
The mutopia were version 2.11, and I only had one issue with convert-ly
regarding _\fermata I believe. I'm still on the 2.19.
http://davidelainealt.com/lessons/pdf/songs/inventions/04.pdf
On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 7:05 AM Knute Snortum wrote:
> I have all of them from Mutopia on my disk. Which one do you want?
>
> ---
> Knute Snortum
> (via Gmail)
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 1:17 PM Mark Stephen Mrotek
> wrote:
>
>> Elaine,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have my codes for 6, 12, and 13.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=
>> ca.rr@gnu.org] *On Behalf Of *Flaming Hakama by Elaine
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2020 12:00 PM
>> *To:* Lilypond-User Mailing List
>> *Subject:* kind of OT: bach inventions
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I was working with one of the Bach inventions and was trying to find
>> public domain lilypond source, of either just the notes or an actual
>> edition.
>>
>>
>>
>> All of mutopia's links seem to be down atm, was wondering if anyone
>> happened to know of such a resource that is available.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/make-table.cgi?collection=bachis=1
>>
>> Sorry, no matches were found for your search criteria.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Elaine Alt
>>
>> 415 . 341 .4954 "*Confusion is
>> highly underrated*"
>>
>> ela...@flaminghakama.com
>>
>> Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist ~ Educator
>>
>> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:29 AM Flaming Hakama by Elaine <
>> ela...@flaminghakama.com> wrote:
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Michael Gerdau
>> To: Lilypond User
>> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 07:57:23 +0200 (CEST)
>> Subject: Q: Irregular alternate repeats and MIDI
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I have a score with repeats and irregular alternate endings. I can neatly
>> engrave that but I don't seem to be able to produce correct MIDI w/o
>> manually arranging all segments.
>>
>> Does someone has a trick up his sleeve?
>> I found mails regarding this problem in the archive dating back to
>> 2008...
>>
>> Here is my "kind of" MWE:
>> %---
>> \version "2.21.2"
>>
>> body = { c'4 c' c' c' }
>> voltaI = { d'4 d' d' d' }
>> voltaII = { e'4 e' e' e' }
>> voltaIII = { g'4 g' g' g' }
>>
>> musicI = {
>> \repeat volta 5 \body
>> \alternative {
>> \voltaI
>> \voltaII
>> \voltaIII
>> }
>> \bar "|."
>> }
>>
>> musicII = {
>> \repeat volta 5 \body
>> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
>> \voltaI
>> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "2. 3. 4.") end-repeat)
>> \voltaII
>> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "5.") end-repeat)
>> \voltaIII
>> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
>> \bar "|."
>> }
>>
>> \markup "Default w/o \unfoldRepeats"
>> \score {
>> \musicI
>> \layout { }
>> \midi { }
>> }
>>
>> \markup "Default unfold is 1.-3. -> Volta 1, 4. -> Volta 2 and 5. ->
>> Volta 3"
>> \score {
>> \unfoldRepeats \musicI
>> \layout { }
>> \midi { }
>> }
>>
>>
>> \markup "This is what I want..."
>> \score {
>> \musicII
>> \layout { }
>> \midi { }
>> }
>>
>> \markup "...but \unfoldRepeats does not deal with it"
>> \score {
>> \unfoldRepeats \musicII
>> \layout { }
>> \midi { }
>> }
>>
>> \markup "Of course I could enforce it manually"
>> \score {
>> { \body \voltaI \repeat unfold 3 { \body \voltaII } \body \voltaIII
>> \bar "|." }
>> \layout { }
>> \midi { }
>> }
>>
>> \markup "How should I change \musicII to enable \unfoldRepeats to work
>> the way I want it?"
>> \markup "Is there a way to tell \alternative wh
Re: kind of OT: bach inventions
I have all of them from Mutopia on my disk. Which one do you want?
---
Knute Snortum
(via Gmail)
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 1:17 PM Mark Stephen Mrotek
wrote:
> Elaine,
>
>
>
> I have my codes for 6, 12, and 13.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> *From:* lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=
> ca.rr@gnu.org] *On Behalf Of *Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> *Sent:* Friday, August 14, 2020 12:00 PM
> *To:* Lilypond-User Mailing List
> *Subject:* kind of OT: bach inventions
>
>
>
>
>
> I was working with one of the Bach inventions and was trying to find
> public domain lilypond source, of either just the notes or an actual
> edition.
>
>
>
> All of mutopia's links seem to be down atm, was wondering if anyone
> happened to know of such a resource that is available.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/make-table.cgi?collection=bachis=1
>
> Sorry, no matches were found for your search criteria.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Elaine Alt
>
> 415 . 341 .4954 "*Confusion is
> highly underrated*"
>
> ela...@flaminghakama.com
>
> Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist ~ Educator
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:29 AM Flaming Hakama by Elaine <
> ela...@flaminghakama.com> wrote:
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Michael Gerdau
> To: Lilypond User
> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 07:57:23 +0200 (CEST)
> Subject: Q: Irregular alternate repeats and MIDI
> Hi List,
>
> I have a score with repeats and irregular alternate endings. I can neatly
> engrave that but I don't seem to be able to produce correct MIDI w/o
> manually arranging all segments.
>
> Does someone has a trick up his sleeve?
> I found mails regarding this problem in the archive dating back to 2008...
>
> Here is my "kind of" MWE:
> %---
> \version "2.21.2"
>
> body = { c'4 c' c' c' }
> voltaI = { d'4 d' d' d' }
> voltaII = { e'4 e' e' e' }
> voltaIII = { g'4 g' g' g' }
>
> musicI = {
> \repeat volta 5 \body
> \alternative {
> \voltaI
> \voltaII
> \voltaIII
> }
> \bar "|."
> }
>
> musicII = {
> \repeat volta 5 \body
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
> \voltaI
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "2. 3. 4.") end-repeat)
> \voltaII
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "5.") end-repeat)
> \voltaIII
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
> \bar "|."
> }
>
> \markup "Default w/o \unfoldRepeats"
> \score {
> \musicI
> \layout { }
> \midi { }
> }
>
> \markup "Default unfold is 1.-3. -> Volta 1, 4. -> Volta 2 and 5. -> Volta
> 3"
> \score {
> \unfoldRepeats \musicI
> \layout { }
> \midi { }
> }
>
>
> \markup "This is what I want..."
> \score {
> \musicII
> \layout { }
> \midi { }
> }
>
> \markup "...but \unfoldRepeats does not deal with it"
> \score {
> \unfoldRepeats \musicII
> \layout { }
> \midi { }
> }
>
> \markup "Of course I could enforce it manually"
> \score {
> { \body \voltaI \repeat unfold 3 { \body \voltaII } \body \voltaIII \bar
> "|." }
> \layout { }
> \midi { }
> }
>
> \markup "How should I change \musicII to enable \unfoldRepeats to work the
> way I want it?"
> \markup "Is there a way to tell \alternative which repeats in which volta
> (and the volta texts)?"
> %---
>
> Kind regards,
> Michael
> --
> Michael Gerdau email: m...@qata.de
>
>
>
>
> Not exactly what you asked for, but one possible approach is to use tags.
>
> Tags allow for conditional use of material.
>
> In this case, you would add a tag that is specific to MIDI
> and put the repetitions in a similar way you did in the "manual" version.
>
> Then, have two different scores, one for PDF and one for MIDI,
> which use different tags.
>
> Even in the printed score, you need to use the \keepWithTag command,
> even though there is no PDF-specific content here,
> in order to keep the MIDI-tagged content out.
>
> Note that the tag names "MIDI" and "PDF" are just arbitrary words,
> there is no intrinsic significance to them.
>
> This approach becomes handy when coding other differences for MIDI,
>
> such as fermatas, breaths, rit/accel, trills.
>
RE: kind of OT: bach inventions
Elaine,
I have my codes for 6, 12, and 13.
Mark
From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org]
On Behalf Of Flaming Hakama by Elaine
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 12:00 PM
To: Lilypond-User Mailing List
Subject: kind of OT: bach inventions
I was working with one of the Bach inventions and was trying to find public
domain lilypond source, of either just the notes or an actual edition.
All of mutopia's links seem to be down atm, was wondering if anyone happened to
know of such a resource that is available.
https://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/make-table.cgi?collection=bachis
<https://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/make-table.cgi?collection=bachis=1>
=1
Sorry, no matches were found for your search criteria.
Thanks,
Elaine Alt
415 . 341 .4954 "Confusion is highly
underrated"
ela...@flaminghakama.com <mailto:ela...@flaminghakama.com>
Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist ~ Educator
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:29 AM Flaming Hakama by Elaine
mailto:ela...@flaminghakama.com> > wrote:
-- Forwarded message --
From: Michael Gerdau mailto:m...@qata.de> >
To: Lilypond User mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org> >
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 07:57:23 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Q: Irregular alternate repeats and MIDI
Hi List,
I have a score with repeats and irregular alternate endings. I can neatly
engrave that but I don't seem to be able to produce correct MIDI w/o manually
arranging all segments.
Does someone has a trick up his sleeve?
I found mails regarding this problem in the archive dating back to 2008...
Here is my "kind of" MWE:
%---
\version "2.21.2"
body = { c'4 c' c' c' }
voltaI = { d'4 d' d' d' }
voltaII = { e'4 e' e' e' }
voltaIII = { g'4 g' g' g' }
musicI = {
\repeat volta 5 \body
\alternative {
\voltaI
\voltaII
\voltaIII
}
\bar "|."
}
musicII = {
\repeat volta 5 \body
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
\voltaI
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "2. 3. 4.") end-repeat)
\voltaII
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "5.") end-repeat)
\voltaIII
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
\bar "|."
}
\markup "Default w/o \unfoldRepeats"
\score {
\musicI
\layout { }
\midi { }
}
\markup "Default unfold is 1.-3. -> Volta 1, 4. -> Volta 2 and 5. -> Volta 3"
\score {
\unfoldRepeats \musicI
\layout { }
\midi { }
}
\markup "This is what I want..."
\score {
\musicII
\layout { }
\midi { }
}
\markup "...but \unfoldRepeats does not deal with it"
\score {
\unfoldRepeats \musicII
\layout { }
\midi { }
}
\markup "Of course I could enforce it manually"
\score {
{ \body \voltaI \repeat unfold 3 { \body \voltaII } \body \voltaIII \bar "|."
}
\layout { }
\midi { }
}
\markup "How should I change \musicII to enable \unfoldRepeats to work the way
I want it?"
\markup "Is there a way to tell \alternative which repeats in which volta (and
the volta texts)?"
%---
Kind regards,
Michael
--
Michael Gerdau email: m...@qata.de <mailto:m...@qata.de>
Not exactly what you asked for, but one possible approach is to use tags.
Tags allow for conditional use of material.
In this case, you would add a tag that is specific to MIDI
and put the repetitions in a similar way you did in the "manual" version.
Then, have two different scores, one for PDF and one for MIDI,
which use different tags.
Even in the printed score, you need to use the \keepWithTag command,
even though there is no PDF-specific content here,
in order to keep the MIDI-tagged content out.
Note that the tag names "MIDI" and "PDF" are just arbitrary words,
there is no intrinsic significance to them.
This approach becomes handy when coding other differences for MIDI,
such as fermatas, breaths, rit/accel, trills.
\version "2.19.81"
body = { c'4 c' c' c' }
voltaI = { d'4 d' d' d' }
voltaII = { e'4 e' e' e' }
voltaIII = { g'4 g' g' g' }
music = {
\repeat volta 5 \body
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
\voltaI
\tag #'MIDI { \body }
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "2. 3. 4.") end-repeat)
\voltaII
\tag #'MIDI {
\body \voltaII
\body \voltaII
\body }
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "5.") end-repeat)
\voltaIII
\set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
\bar "|."
}
\score {
\keepWithTag #'PDF \music
\layout { }
}
\score {
\keepWithTag #'MIDI \music
\midi { }
}
HTH,
Elaine Alt
415 . 341 .4954 "Confusion is highly
underrated"
ela...@flaminghakama.com <mailto:ela...@flaminghakama.com>
Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist ~ Educator
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Re: kind of OT: bach inventions
Hi Elaine, Am 14.08.20 um 21:00 schrieb Flaming Hakama by Elaine: I was working with one of the Bach inventions and was trying to find public domain lilypond source, of either just the notes or an actual edition. All of mutopia's links seem to be down atm, was wondering if anyone happened to know of such a resource that is available. https://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/make-table.cgi?collection=bachis=1 Sorry, no matches were found for your search criteria. Last time I tried, the Portuguese mirror of Mutopia was still working: http://eremita.di.uminho.pt/mutopia/cgibin/make-table.cgi?searchingfor=bach+invention But it would be interesting to know what's happened to Mutopia. Best Lukas
Re: kind of OT: bach inventions
On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 12:00:10PM -0700, Flaming Hakama by Elaine wrote: >I was working with one of the Bach inventions and was trying to >find public domain lilypond source, of either just the notes or an >actual edition. >All of mutopia's links seem to be down atm, was wondering if anyone >happened to know of such a resource that is available. [...] Which invention are you interested in? I have lilypond source for invention no.8, which I transcribed from a score I found on IMSLP. T -- An elephant: A mouse built to government specifications. -- Robert Heinlein
kind of OT: bach inventions
I was working with one of the Bach inventions and was trying to find
public domain lilypond source, of either just the notes or an actual
edition.
All of mutopia's links seem to be down atm, was wondering if anyone
happened to know of such a resource that is available.
https://www.mutopiaproject.org/cgibin/make-table.cgi?collection=bachis=1
Sorry, no matches were found for your search criteria.
Thanks,
Elaine Alt
415 . 341 .4954 "*Confusion is
highly underrated*"
ela...@flaminghakama.com
Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist ~ Educator
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 7:29 AM Flaming Hakama by Elaine <
ela...@flaminghakama.com> wrote:
> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: Michael Gerdau
>> To: Lilypond User
>> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2020 07:57:23 +0200 (CEST)
>> Subject: Q: Irregular alternate repeats and MIDI
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I have a score with repeats and irregular alternate endings. I can neatly
>> engrave that but I don't seem to be able to produce correct MIDI w/o
>> manually arranging all segments.
>>
>> Does someone has a trick up his sleeve?
>> I found mails regarding this problem in the archive dating back to
>> 2008...
>>
>> Here is my "kind of" MWE:
>> %---
>> \version "2.21.2"
>>
>> body = { c'4 c' c' c' }
>> voltaI = { d'4 d' d' d' }
>> voltaII = { e'4 e' e' e' }
>> voltaIII = { g'4 g' g' g' }
>>
>> musicI = {
>> \repeat volta 5 \body
>> \alternative {
>> \voltaI
>> \voltaII
>> \voltaIII
>> }
>> \bar "|."
>> }
>>
>> musicII = {
>> \repeat volta 5 \body
>> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
>> \voltaI
>> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "2. 3. 4.") end-repeat)
>> \voltaII
>> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "5.") end-repeat)
>> \voltaIII
>> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
>> \bar "|."
>> }
>>
>> \markup "Default w/o \unfoldRepeats"
>> \score {
>> \musicI
>> \layout { }
>> \midi { }
>> }
>>
>> \markup "Default unfold is 1.-3. -> Volta 1, 4. -> Volta 2 and 5. ->
>> Volta 3"
>> \score {
>> \unfoldRepeats \musicI
>> \layout { }
>> \midi { }
>> }
>>
>>
>> \markup "This is what I want..."
>> \score {
>> \musicII
>> \layout { }
>> \midi { }
>> }
>>
>> \markup "...but \unfoldRepeats does not deal with it"
>> \score {
>> \unfoldRepeats \musicII
>> \layout { }
>> \midi { }
>> }
>>
>> \markup "Of course I could enforce it manually"
>> \score {
>> { \body \voltaI \repeat unfold 3 { \body \voltaII } \body \voltaIII
>> \bar "|." }
>> \layout { }
>> \midi { }
>> }
>>
>> \markup "How should I change \musicII to enable \unfoldRepeats to work
>> the way I want it?"
>> \markup "Is there a way to tell \alternative which repeats in which volta
>> (and the volta texts)?"
>> %---
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Michael
>> --
>> Michael Gerdau email: m...@qata.de
>>
>
>
> Not exactly what you asked for, but one possible approach is to use tags.
>
> Tags allow for conditional use of material.
>
> In this case, you would add a tag that is specific to MIDI
> and put the repetitions in a similar way you did in the "manual" version.
>
> Then, have two different scores, one for PDF and one for MIDI,
> which use different tags.
>
> Even in the printed score, you need to use the \keepWithTag command,
> even though there is no PDF-specific content here,
> in order to keep the MIDI-tagged content out.
>
> Note that the tag names "MIDI" and "PDF" are just arbitrary words,
> there is no intrinsic significance to them.
>
> This approach becomes handy when coding other differences for MIDI,
> such as fermatas, breaths, rit/accel, trills.
>
> \version "2.19.81"
>
> body = { c'4 c' c' c' }
> voltaI = { d'4 d' d' d' }
> voltaII = { e'4 e' e' e' }
> voltaIII = { g'4 g' g' g' }
>
> music = {
> \repeat volta 5 \body
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta "1."))
> \voltaI
> \tag #'MIDI { \body }
>
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "2. 3. 4.") end-repeat)
> \voltaII
> \tag #'MIDI {
> \body \voltaII
> \body \voltaII
> \body }
>
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f) (volta "5.") end-repeat)
> \voltaIII
> \set Score.repeatCommands = #'((volta #f))
> \bar "|."
> }
>
> \score {
> \keepWithTag #'PDF \music
> \layout { }
> }
>
> \score {
> \keepWithTag #'MIDI \music
> \midi { }
> }
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Elaine Alt
> 415 . 341 .4954 "*Confusion is
> highly underrated*"
> ela...@flaminghakama.com
> Producer ~ Composer ~ Instrumentalist ~ Educator
>
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
