Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

[Noeck]

Hi,

Am 02.05.2018 um 18:40 schrieb Simon Albrecht:
> I don’t know why the staff-padding override doesn’t immediately work (in
> this example, it only affects the third bracket, which is why I disabled
> it).

I don’t know why and I’d call it a bug, but perhaps there is a place
where this makes sense.
In any case, it is connected to the default direction of the tuplets.
The padding is only effective if the tuplet bracket is placed on the
opposite side (not on the side of the beam as usual).

\version "2.19.80"
{
  \override TupletBracket.outside-staff-priority = 100
  \override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t
  \override TupletBracket.staff-padding = 10
  \tuplet 3/2 4 { \tupletDown c'8 8 8 d' e' f' \tupletUp d'' e'' f'' }
}

Cheers,
Joram

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Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

[Reilly Farrell]

Thank you both!  I appreciate the quick turnaround.  If the difference in
opinion persists I'll return with a minimal example, but in light of what
you've told me I think we can just proceed as we are.

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:40 AM, Simon Albrecht 
wrote:

> On 02.05.2018 18:24, Reilly Farrell wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm editing a short score with tuplets and I could use a spacing solution
>> that would keep all tuplet brackets at a fixed minimum distance above the
>> staff.  (Feedback I've received so far is that the tuplet indications look
>> messy when printed inside the staff rather than above it.)  My question is
>> whether it would be possible to enforce a rule that would keep these
>> brackets above the staff.
>>
>
> Indeed, a minimal example would have been very welcome.
> I have to say this first: tell your client that there’s no good reason for
> keeping tuplets out of the staff. People have all sorts of opinions on what
> looks messy or not, and especially nowadays they tend to be enormously
> hypersensitive against compact layout, resulting in ridiculous waste of
> space.
> But, of course Lily can accommodate your need:
>
> \version "2.19.80"
> {
>   %\override TupletBracket.staff-padding = 10
>   \override TupletBracket.outside-staff-priority = 100
>   \override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t
>   \tupletUp
>   \tuplet 3/2 4 { c'8 8 8 d' e' f' d'' e'' f'' }
> }
>
> By setting outside-staff-priority, it becomes an outside-staff object –
> see  e_002dstaff-objects#the-outside_002dstaff_002dpriority-property>.
> I don’t know why the staff-padding override doesn’t immediately work (in
> this example, it only affects the third bracket, which is why I disabled
> it).
>
> Best, Simon
>



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Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

[Simon Albrecht]

On 02.05.2018 18:24, Reilly Farrell wrote:

Hi All,

I'm editing a short score with tuplets and I could use a spacing 
solution that would keep all tuplet brackets at a fixed minimum 
distance above the staff.  (Feedback I've received so far is that the 
tuplet indications look messy when printed inside the staff rather 
than above it.)  My question is whether it would be possible to 
enforce a rule that would keep these brackets above the staff.


Indeed, a minimal example would have been very welcome.
I have to say this first: tell your client that there’s no good reason 
for keeping tuplets out of the staff. People have all sorts of opinions 
on what looks messy or not, and especially nowadays they tend to be 
enormously hypersensitive against compact layout, resulting in 
ridiculous waste of space.

But, of course Lily can accommodate your need:

\version "2.19.80"
{
  %\override TupletBracket.staff-padding = 10
  \override TupletBracket.outside-staff-priority = 100
  \override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t
  \tupletUp
  \tuplet 3/2 4 { c'8 8 8 d' e' f' d'' e'' f'' }
}

By setting outside-staff-priority, it becomes an outside-staff object – 
see 
.
I don’t know why the staff-padding override doesn’t immediately work (in 
this example, it only affects the third bracket, which is why I disabled 
it).


Best, Simon

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Re: tuplet bracket spanner?

[David Kastrup]

Reilly Farrell  writes:

> Hi All,
>
> I'm editing a short score with tuplets and I could use a spacing solution
> that would keep all tuplet brackets at a fixed minimum distance above the
> staff.  (Feedback I've received so far is that the tuplet indications look
> messy when printed inside the staff rather than above it.)  My question is
> whether it would be possible to enforce a rule that would keep these
> brackets above the staff.

Minimal example exhibiting the problem?

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tuplet bracket spanner?

[Reilly Farrell]

Hi All,

I'm editing a short score with tuplets and I could use a spacing solution
that would keep all tuplet brackets at a fixed minimum distance above the
staff.  (Feedback I've received so far is that the tuplet indications look
messy when printed inside the staff rather than above it.)  My question is
whether it would be possible to enforce a rule that would keep these
brackets above the staff.

Thank you for any suggestions!
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