Re: Centering chorus between even verses

2008-11-18 Thread Marek Klein
Maybe this snippet is what you are looking for:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=503

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2008/11/18 Cordilow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Sometimes it's desirable to have the chorus begin on the same system as the
 end of the rest of the song. I have a situation where I need to do this.
 Unfortunately, there are an even number of stacked lyric verses (or whatever
 you call them). I'd rather have the chorus centered between the two verses
 in height, rather than having looking like a continuation of one of the
 verses. Is this possible? I'm trying to mimic what I see printed.
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Re: Short decrescendo

2008-11-18 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
2008/11/18 Cordilow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Does anyone know how to make this decrescendo go all the way to the a'2? It's
 supposed to, I think.

Try putting \once \override Hairpin #'to-barline = ##f in front of the
crescendo / decrescendo you want to extend beyond the barline. Like
this.

\time 3/4
d'4.^\ (e'8) fis' [(g')]
a'2 b'8 (cis'') d''4^\mf ( \once \override Hairpin #'to-barline = ##f
cis''^\) b'4
a'2^\! \breathe b'8 cis''

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Re: Centering chorus between even verses

2008-11-18 Thread Cordilow


Marek Klein wrote:
 
 Maybe this snippet is what you are looking for:
 http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=503

Yep—that's exactly what I was looking for. :)

Thanks!
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Re: Short decrescendo

2008-11-18 Thread Cordilow


Risto Vääräniemi-2 wrote:
 
 Try putting \once \override Hairpin #'to-barline = ##f in front of the
 crescendo / decrescendo you want to extend beyond the barline. Like
 this.
 
 …

Excellent. Thanks! I guess it wasn't a bug after all, eh? Just a default
setting or such. :)
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RE: Dashed/dotted barlines

2008-11-18 Thread Nick Payne
No, those values don't seem to be listed there (internals s.3.2.9) - maybe
they should be, but they are shown in s.1.2.5  of the notation reference.

 

Nick

 

From: Stefan Waler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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To: Nick Payne
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Thanks a lot!

Do I get it right that this is mentioned nowhere in the internals
reference??

Stefan


Nick Payne wrote: 

To change an individual bar:
 
\bar dashed or 
\bar :
 
To change the default barline appearance:
 
\set Timing.defaultBarType = dashed or 
\set Timing.defaultBarType = :
 
Nick
 
  

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Hi,
 
is it possible to print barlines dotted or dashed for an unmetered part
of the score?


 
  

 

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Re: Short decrescendo

2008-11-18 Thread Risto Vääräniemi
2008/11/18 Cordilow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Excellent. Thanks! I guess it wasn't a bug after all, eh? Just a default
 setting or such. :)

Yes. The default behaviour was changed a couple a versions ago. The
syntax for the command was changed, too.

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RE: Dashed/dotted barlines

2008-11-18 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Quoting Nick Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


No, those values don't seem to be listed there (internals s.3.2.9) - maybe
they should be, but they are shown in s.1.2.5  of the notation reference.


I just updated the source code, so that : and dashed will be 
included also in IR 3.2.9 in the next release.


  /Mats



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Polymetric notation and percent repeats

2008-11-18 Thread Francesco Casadei
Hi all,
I'm writing a piece of music with compound signature time 4/4 + 3/4
(i.e. alternating measures of 4/4 and 3/4) with:

% Create 4/4 + 3/4 time signature
tsMarkup =\markup {
  \override #'(baseline-skip . 2) \number {
\column { 4 4 }
\vcenter +
\column { 3 4 }
  }
}

and then:

\override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print
\override Staff.TimeSignature #'text = #tsMarkup
\clef bass
\time 7/4

I can't get the percent repeats printed properly according to the
compound signature time.

\repeat percent 2 { d1 \bar | d2. | }

This outputs two measures as one would expect (4/4 + 3/4), followed by a
_single_ 7/4 measure with a percent sign.
I would like to get two measures with a double percent on the bar
between the two.

I've tried using this hack:

\repeat percent 2 { d1 \skip 2. | \skip 1 d2. | }

This works, but the result is ugly because of the horizontal spacing
introduced by the skips.

Does anybody know how to use percent repeats with polymetric notation?

Regards,
Francesco Casadei



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Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-18 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/11/14 Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 Is there a set of settings to make LP output lighter? Setting

  line-thickness = \staff-space / 16

 seems a good start, but I assume there's more to it.
I've tried to make it lighter, for a particular publication --
there is some settings (worked for 2.10, afair):

% % \override StaffSymbol #'ledger-line-thickness = #'(1.0 . 0.1)
% \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #0.5
% \override BarLine #'hair-thickness = #0.7
% \override BarLine #'thick-thickness = #4
% \override Slur #'thickness = #3
% \override NoteHead #'font-size = #-0.7
% \override Accidental #'font-size = #-0.7
% \override Dots #'font-size = #-0.7

There may be a lot more.

But LP's output is great, indeed.


 -- Johan

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Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-18 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
2008/11/14 Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 Is there a set of settings to make LP output lighter? Setting

  line-thickness = \staff-space / 16

 seems a good start, but I assume there's more to it.
I've tried to make it lighter, for a particular publication --
there is some settings (worked for 2.10, afair):

% % \override StaffSymbol #'ledger-line-thickness = #'(1.0 . 0.1)
% \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #0.5
% \override BarLine #'hair-thickness = #0.7
% \override BarLine #'thick-thickness = #4
% \override Slur #'thickness = #3
% \override NoteHead #'font-size = #-0.7
% \override Accidental #'font-size = #-0.7
% \override Dots #'font-size = #-0.7

There may be a lot more.

But LP's output is great, indeed.


 -- Johan

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No time signature?

2008-11-18 Thread Monk Panteleimon

 
 I'm new to Lilypond. I've been looking for a way to typeset music without
 time signatures. This is because I'm transcribing chants that often use
 _recitativ_ and rarely follow any strict meter--the rhythm of the chant is
 completely text-driven. 

Hello Alyozhik,

When I'm doing metreless chant from parts of the
world where people have names like Alyozhik,  I remove the
Bar_number_engraver and Time_signature engraver in the layout block and
\set Score.timing = ##f in a global definition. The second takes care of
both timing and bar lines.

If you look here 

http://www.holycross-hermitage.com/kliros/lilysource/kliros.ly

You will find lots of tricks for making this kind of music, including
one that lets you cruise through the whole piece without even adding
invisible bars for line breaks. This is defined as \chant. However, it
messes up the spacing just a wee little bit, so I almost always go back
and put the line breaks when I'm done.

БъВъПъ

-- 
Пантелеимонъ, монахъ
+ + + + + + + + + +
Господи Їисусе
Хрïсте, помилуй
мѧ грѣшнаго.
+ + + + + + + + + +



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Staff alignement

2008-11-18 Thread stefanozanobini
Hi,
to keep two staffs nearer I've used the command-lines

\overrideProperty
#Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn
#'line-break-system-details
#'((alignment-offsets . (0 -8)))

but it works fine only for the first system!
In the second one the staffs are already normally distanced.
I've tried to repeat the above command-lines befor the first bar of
every score system and it works only sometimes (!?!).
I've also tried this:

\overrideProperty
#Score.NonMusicalPaperColumn
#'line-break-system-details
#'((alignment-offsets . (0 -8)))
{ c4 c c c ... the all 2nd staff...}
without result.

Suggestions?


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Re: Centering chorus between even verses

2008-11-18 Thread james bailey
Is it just me, or does the brace not show up?

2008/11/18 Marek Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Maybe this snippet is what you are looking for:
 http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=503

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 http://gregoriana.sk



 2008/11/18 Cordilow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Sometimes it's desirable to have the chorus begin on the same system as
 the
  end of the rest of the song. I have a situation where I need to do this.
  Unfortunately, there are an even number of stacked lyric verses (or
 whatever
  you call them). I'd rather have the chorus centered between the two
 verses
  in height, rather than having looking like a continuation of one of the
  verses. Is this possible? I'm trying to mimic what I see printed.
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Re: Centering chorus between even verses

2008-11-18 Thread Dominic Neumann
There is only the definition of leftbrace and rightbrace but these are
not used in any place. So they don´t show up. I´ve tried to add
\rightbrace after \dropLyrics which works quite good, but has one
fundamental problem: The brace uses one note as a syllable would.
Maybe someon else has a helping idea ...

2008/11/18, james bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Is it just me, or does the brace not show up?

 2008/11/18 Marek Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Maybe this snippet is what you are looking for:
 http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=503

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 http://gregoriana.sk



 2008/11/18 Cordilow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Sometimes it's desirable to have the chorus begin on the same system as
 the
  end of the rest of the song. I have a situation where I need to do this.
  Unfortunately, there are an even number of stacked lyric verses (or
 whatever
  you call them). I'd rather have the chorus centered between the two
 verses
  in height, rather than having looking like a continuation of one of the
  verses. Is this possible? I'm trying to mimic what I see printed.
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Re: Centering chorus between even verses

2008-11-18 Thread james

\concat is your friend. It's also my friend.
Am 18.11.2008 um 16:36 schrieb Dominic Neumann:


There is only the definition of leftbrace and rightbrace but these are
not used in any place. So they don´t show up. I´ve tried to add
\rightbrace after \dropLyrics which works quite good, but has one
fundamental problem: The brace uses one note as a syllable would.
Maybe someon else has a helping idea ...

2008/11/18, james bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Is it just me, or does the brace not show up?

2008/11/18 Marek Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Maybe this snippet is what you are looking for:
http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=503

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2008/11/18 Cordilow [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Sometimes it's desirable to have the chorus begin on the same  
system as

the
end of the rest of the song. I have a situation where I need to  
do this.

Unfortunately, there are an even number of stacked lyric verses (or

whatever

you call them). I'd rather have the chorus centered between the two

verses
in height, rather than having looking like a continuation of one  
of the

verses. Is this possible? I'm trying to mimic what I see printed.
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Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-18 Thread Johan Vromans
David Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 If you look at a good score of anything that was printed before the
 time of computers, you can see that Lilypond looks 'almost like real
 music', and Sibelius looks 'like a computer'

This does not necessarily mean that old scores look better than new
scores. Modern digital technology provides possibilities that were
not feasible with old printing techniques.

And no, this does not necessarily mean that new printing look better
than old printing, either. As anyone who has seen books typeset in
14pt Times Roman can confirm...

I like the way LilyPond does it, but sometimes I'd like it slightly
better when it would be just a little bit lighter. Just a personal
taste.

(My main fonts for typesetting are Garamond Light and Helvetica Light,
so probably I'm a Light person.)

Okay, back to our regular schedule of beautifully typesetting
beautiful music.

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Re: Polymetric notation and percent repeats

2008-11-18 Thread Neil Puttock
Hi Francesco,

2008/11/18 Francesco Casadei [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I've tried using this hack:

 \repeat percent 2 { d1 \skip 2. | \skip 1 d2. | }

 This works, but the result is ugly because of the horizontal spacing
 introduced by the skips.

A slightly different hack, using scaled durations should work:

\repeat percent 2 { d1*7/4 \bar | d2.*7/3 }

Regards,
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Re: Lighter appearance

2008-11-18 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
This will always be a kludge. The font and the line width settings are
tuned together.  If you really want to do this, you have to recompile
LilyPond including the fonts, and update the definitions for the fonts
too.

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Dmytro O. Redchuk
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/11/14 Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 Is there a set of settings to make LP output lighter? Setting

  line-thickness = \staff-space / 16

 seems a good start, but I assume there's more to it.
 I've tried to make it lighter, for a particular publication --
 there is some settings (worked for 2.10, afair):

 % % \override StaffSymbol #'ledger-line-thickness = #'(1.0 . 0.1)
 % \override StaffSymbol #'thickness = #0.5
 % \override BarLine #'hair-thickness = #0.7
 % \override BarLine #'thick-thickness = #4
 % \override Slur #'thickness = #3
 % \override NoteHead #'font-size = #-0.7
 % \override Accidental #'font-size = #-0.7
 % \override Dots #'font-size = #-0.7

 There may be a lot more.

 But LP's output is great, indeed.


 -- Johan

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