Re: [Haifux] How that can be?

2001-10-18 Thread Eli Billauer



Oh, come on.
When will you realize that Linux isn't good for ALL?
That Microsoft software is better suited for unsophisticated users,
who are better off when the software makes the decisions, even if the final
result never gets perfect?
As a matter of fact, Microsoft is better for the greater part of users.
Please realize how few of us can really take advantage of the benefits
of Linux. How few of us can really handle it in a way that makes it a smooth,
flexible and secure system.
So I say: Microsoft for the masses! Linux for the elites!
 Eli


Sivan Green wrote:

http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/prodtechnol/iis/deploy/depovg/hdlinux.asp?frame=true
to quote:
"Until recently, Hard Rock Cafe had a mixed IT environment consisting of
Sun Solaris, Novell NetWare, and Lotus Notes, with the company's intranet
consisting of an Intel-based server running Linux and Apache. Although
the IT group had a large number of intranet applications it needed to develop,
their Linux-based platform made this extremely difficult and time-consuming.
"The Linux-based intranet consisted of a few simple applications that two
developers had built—looking up a phone number, browsing imported POS logs,
and paging a support technician—with everyone sharing the same password,"
said Rob Conti, manager of network services for Hard Rock Caf.
"We wanted to offer additional Web-based applications for accessing detailed
financial data and communicating with our stores, but
the lack of security and functionality in the Linux platform
meant we would have to develop everything from scratch. That made these
initiatives just too cost-prohibitive to pursue on the Linux platform..."
"..When
a user logs in, they're now presented with a customized start page that
provides links to all the functionality they're permitted to access," said
Conti. "User profiles and permissions are managed using another intranet
application we developed, and are stored in the SQL Server 7.0 database.
This was much easier to develop on Windows 2000 than it would have been
under Linux, again due to the extensive core
functionality provided in the Microsoft platform..."
""We've only had two developers working
on our intranet—the same number we had working on the Linux platform—and
the Microsoft platform has enabled them deliver upwards of 50 applications
over the last year. We're definitely getting more results for our development
dollars now."
Rob Conti
Manager of Network Services
Hard Rock Caf International
..." Any
oppinions?
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[Haifux] Strike's question (V 2.0)

2001-10-18 Thread Orr Dunkelman

Many of you have agreed that postponing the lecture series is a good idea,
and to postpone the linux-day is a bad idea.

The status report regarding the strike, is that for the next couple of
weeks there will be no strike, therefore we might be able to start with
the series, but might run out of audience (as there will be strike).

Please reply to me about what to do with the series, as it was quite a
consensus not to move the linux day.



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[Haifux] New version of the Basic Use Lecture Slides

2001-10-18 Thread Shlomi Fish


http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~shlomif/lecture/W2L/Basic_Use/slides/

Regards,

Shlomi Fish



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Re: [Haifux] Welcome To Linux newbie material.

2001-10-18 Thread guy keren


On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Sivan Green wrote:

 I understand that Orna is going to speak about high performance
 computing and other power usage related to linux on the W2L lectures and
 that there are going to be usage how-to's lectrues.

its going to be a ~10 minute talk, during the _first_ W2L lecture, which
is titled 'why linux?'. there are supposed to be a few other people to
show other reasons for 'why linux' during that lecture.

 I just wanted to ask
 (and please forgive me if I'm not updated with latest news regarding
 this or didn't check the site) Do we have someone to speak to the simple
 people (e.g. those for example coming from a company wanting to know if
 they can use Linux as their desktop machine, for everyday usage, doing
 some simple talking to the people not getting too technically, providing
 some background and whys for linux, again for the everyday windows
 users common people that is,giving people reasons more then Linux is
 much more suitable for heavy proccesing  or Linux is the best server
 platform and so on ?

well, forgive me if i ask you, but did you look at the web site for the
already defined schedule of the various W2L lectures? its not 'latest
news' - the format was defined several weeks back, and is available on the
web site - along with all the planned content. if you look at it, you'll
find the answers to all your questions, and:

 Orr, I am willing to run such a lecture (completely non-technical) which
 would be an express for the enthusiasem attempting to transmit it over
 to push as manyusers to check what the alternative can do for them. Am
 not sure howI am gonna do it yet, but I can feel the proficy within me
 strugling to go out and be heared ((-:

then you'll see why your idea is like a hitpartsut ledelet ptucha.
however, since you have s nicely vulenteered (*evil grin*), how about
preparing a 9-10 minute talk that will get into the 1st meeting, in which
we want to have 5-6 people talk about 'why linux, and what did linux do
for me'. if you're all in to this, then please write up shortly what you
intend to talk about, so we'll be able to make sure that not all 5-6
people come up and say the same things. you can write this directly to me,
and i'll coordinate a meeting of all people involved in the first lecture
to handle this.

thanks,

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