Re: [Haifux] Re: RFC: Sys-call-track Meeting

2002-04-09 Thread guy keren


On Mon, 8 Apr 2002, Shlomi Fish wrote:

 I'm not going to fill a two hour lecture explaining a technical tool such
 as Lex and Yacc. O'Reilly can fill a book about those two, but I have more
 exciting things to do. I just see it as an absurd thing that the SCT
 configurator is still not written using Lex and Yacc and that those tools
 can make it so much simpler and easier to understand.

its not absurd - its just laziness on behalf of people. we already had 3.5
people who vulanteered to do this (you were one of them, in case you
forgot) and none of them did it eventually. code is still not created by
talking about it, i'm afraid ;)

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[Haifux] Re: RFC: Sys-call-track Meeting

2002-04-08 Thread Shlomi Fish

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, guy keren wrote:


 On Sun, 7 Apr 2002, Orna Agmon wrote:

   I would like to propose to make a sys-call-track developers' conference
   some time, in which we will discuss its future, its code, the good, the
   bad, what has to be improved, what is just as good as it is, etc etc.
 
  why developers conference? i think if you intend to present
  lex/yacc/(flex/bison)? it should be interesting maybe for a wider range of
  people.

 i'd like to second that. i don't think syscalltrack needs a 'specially
 crafted' lex/yacc demonstration (besides, some of us are already quite
 familiar with lex and yacc - we don't need it to be 'sold' to us, and
 neither do we need or want perl to be 'sold' to us).


I'm not trying to sell them. I want to have a meeting where I can finally
get some questions about SCT answered face to face, and we discuss it. I
suggested that I teach Lex and Yacc, using Perl as a tool to teach them,
to fill some of the time and do something useful with myself. And it's a
demo not a lecture.

I'm not going to fill a two hour lecture explaining a technical tool such
as Lex and Yacc. O'Reilly can fill a book about those two, but I have more
exciting things to do. I just see it as an absurd thing that the SCT
configurator is still not written using Lex and Yacc and that those tools
can make it so much simpler and easier to understand.

 as for something for Haifux itself - it might have a point. you just need
 to check first how many people already know lex and yacc usage in C, due
 to the mandatory 'compilation theory' CS course - it might be not
 that easy finding a common background for the possible audiance, but its
 do-able.


Like I said, I'm not so interested in Lex and Yacc to present a lecture on
them. I'm just trying to evanglize for our pet project. Let me know if
it's needed and if people wish to hear about it.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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