Re: [LINK] web: Taxpayers, IT expert slam ATO's 'appalling' myGov integration

2015-07-08 Thread Bernard Robertson-Dunn
On 9/07/2015 11:28 AM, Jan Whitaker wrote:
 I'd be interested if ANYone from AGIMO who had carriage for all this strategy 
 was brought over for continuity. Or if they just went their merry way with a 
 new team or outsourced to the commercial providers. Small government rules, 
 remember.

I've been told that a dozen or so AGIMO folks went to the DTO, including 
ones who have been working on digital identity policy for years.

and

The DTO is following the UK's GDS initiative.

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Re: [LINK] web: Taxpayers, IT expert slam ATO's 'appalling' myGov integration

2015-07-08 Thread David Lochrin
I suppose this is the work of the Digital Transformation Office announced by 
Abbott  Malcolm Turnbull back in January - see for example 
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/564624/government-gets-startup-fever-digital-transformation-office/
 in Computerworld.

Computerworld: 'The DTO will be made up of a small team of developers, 
designers, researchers and content specialists working across government to 
develop and coordinate the delivery of digital services. It will operate more 
like a startup than a traditional government agency, the government said.' and 
'The DTO will also work closely with State and Territory Governments to 
identify opportunities for collaboration, including ways to make better use of 
myGov.'

Why am I reminded of the ABC's absolutely brilliant Utopia series?  
Fortunately, a new series is underway...


On 2015-07-07 14:29 Frank O wrote:

 Then there is the fact that the ATO seems incapable of getting its front end 
 systems to ‘talk to’ its back-end systems in real time. They seem incapable 
 of Enterprise Application Integration, and doing business on the Web 
 Basically all you get if you lodge a return online is the same time frame, 
 delays and enterprise performance as you get if you lodge a paper form.
 
 And I’m not even gonna talk about the problems with server clustering, load 
 balancing and other demand handling problems their publicly connected servers 
 have.

Do we know the basic architecture of this system?  I presume the myGov website 
is run by a separate silo, and the idea is to have each government organisation 
interface their own back-end systems.  But that might raise interesting 
problems of interface / protocol standardisation at both the user  application 
ends, rather large scalability issues, and major problems of system 
availability and data integrity.

Does anyone have any insights?

David L.
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Re: [LINK] web: Taxpayers, IT expert slam ATO's 'appalling' myGov integration

2015-07-08 Thread Jan Whitaker
I'd be interested if ANYone from AGIMO who had carriage for all this strategy 
was brought over for continuity. Or if they just went their merry way with a 
new team or outsourced to the commercial providers. Small government rules, 
remember.

Jan

At 10:31 AM 9/07/2015, David Lochrin wrote:

I suppose this is the work of the Digital Transformation Office announced by 
Abbott  Malcolm Turnbull back in January - see for example 
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/564624/government-gets-startup-fever-digital-transformation-office/
 in Computerworld.

Computerworld: 'The DTO will be made up of a small team of developers, 
designers, researchers and content specialists working across government to 
develop and coordinate the delivery of digital services. It will operate more 
like a startup than a traditional government agency, the government said.' and 
'The DTO will also work closely with State and Territory Governments to 
identify opportunities for collaboration, including ways to make better use of 
myGov.'

Why am I reminded of the ABC's absolutely brilliant Utopia series?  
Fortunately, a new series is underway...

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[LINK] web: Taxpayers, IT expert slam ATO's 'appalling' myGov integration

2015-07-06 Thread Jan Whitaker
Oops.
Be sure to read the comment about the interative inputs and the lack of partial 
save. This is amateur hour stuff.

 
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/taxpayers-it-expert-slam-atos-appalling-mygov-integration-20150707-gi6bru

 

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