Re: [LINK] The numbers just don't add up.

[Bernard Robertson-Dunn]

On 11/08/2016 4:23 PM, Frank O'Connor wrote:
> Yo BRD,

Yo ho ho, to you too.
The guy who posted the explanation
https://twitter.com/riskybusiness/status/763605906047107073
Patrick Gray, will be on The Project tonight talking about it.

If he's pulling a fast one, he's being very public about it.

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Re: [LINK] The numbers just don't add up.

[Marghanita da Cruz]

On 11/08/16 15:28, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:

On 11/08/2016 3:04 PM, Michael wrote:

The Census website is operational again.
It will be interesting to see if it handles the load better this evening.
Regards,
Michael Skeggs

Some people are still having trouble getting through. They could be load
balancing using some arcane algorithm.

Here's what may be a useful tweet, claiming to know what really
happened. YMMV, IANAL etc.

https://twitter.com/riskybusiness/status/763605906047107073



Just completed the census online.  They ask for feedback:
"Expect a heavy load after dinner on Census night!

Marghanita
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Re: [LINK] The numbers just don't add up.

[Bernard Robertson-Dunn]

On 11/08/2016 3:04 PM, Michael wrote:
> The Census website is operational again.
> It will be interesting to see if it handles the load better this evening.
> Regards,
> Michael Skeggs

Some people are still having trouble getting through. They could be load
balancing using some arcane algorithm.

Here's what may be a useful tweet, claiming to know what really
happened. YMMV, IANAL etc.

https://twitter.com/riskybusiness/status/763605906047107073


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Re: [LINK] The numbers just don't add up.

[Michael]

The Census website is operational again.
It will be interesting to see if it handles the load better this evening.
Regards,
Michael Skeggs
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Re: [LINK] The numbers just don't add up.

[JanW]

At 12:13 PM 11/08/2016, Ben Elliston wrote:

>.. which is how it should have been done in the first place.  Why
>build a system with such a high peak capacity when you could smooth it
>out over several days (say, Queensland Monday, Victoria Tuesday, NSW
>Wednesday) and do it with less kit? 

Yep, that would have been one of the load balancing options.

But that would take a paradigm shift away from a "snapshot" to a surveillance 
collection, which is what it has become. Otherwise the snapshot would get away 
with margin of error, sample size, and NOT linking to a specific name.

J


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Re: [LINK] The numbers just don't add up.

[Bernard Robertson-Dunn]

On 11/08/2016 12:13 PM, Ben Elliston wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 12:01:54PM +1000, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:
>
>> Let's see if they try and organise people to fill in their on-line
>> censuses alphabetically, or by state, or star sign, or medicare
>> number
> .. which is how it should have been done in the first place.  Why
> build a system with such a high peak capacity when you could smooth it
> out over several days (say, Queensland Monday, Victoria Tuesday, NSW
> Wednesday) and do it with less kit?

Answers?:

a) they automated what is done manually - always a bad idea. When things
go wrong they go wrong bigger, faster and worse.

b) like the space shuttle disaster, the people who understand these
things were not the ones making the decisions

c) hubris among those who did make the decisions.

d) and maybe something of the Australian "she'll be right, mte."

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Re: [LINK] The numbers just don't add up.

[Alan Hargreaves]

On 11/08/2016 12:13 pm, Ben Elliston wrote:

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 12:01:54PM +1000, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:


Let's see if they try and organise people to fill in their on-line
censuses alphabetically, or by state, or star sign, or medicare
number


.. which is how it should have been done in the first place.  Why
build a system with such a high peak capacity when you could smooth it
out over several days (say, Queensland Monday, Victoria Tuesday, NSW
Wednesday) and do it with less kit?



I would suggest that this is exactly the reason that you go with a cloud 
service to supply the peak rather than have to purchase and maintain the 
kit for its lifetime rather than the short time that you need it.


The issue appears to be that it was amazingly under-resourced.

Regards,
Alan Hargreaves
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Re: [LINK] The numbers just don't add up.

[Ben Elliston]

On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 12:01:54PM +1000, Bernard Robertson-Dunn wrote:

> Let's see if they try and organise people to fill in their on-line
> censuses alphabetically, or by state, or star sign, or medicare
> number

.. which is how it should have been done in the first place.  Why
build a system with such a high peak capacity when you could smooth it
out over several days (say, Queensland Monday, Victoria Tuesday, NSW
Wednesday) and do it with less kit?

Cheers, Ben


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