Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

2021-01-22 Thread Brenda J. Butler


Here's the Toronto company:

https://copperhead.co/#hardware

bjb

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Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

2021-01-22 Thread Brenda J. Butler
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 12:48:53AM -0500, Brenda J. Butler wrote:
> I also put ClockWorkMod as the recovery image.  It worked well.

Oh man - another correction.  I settled on TWRP – an alternative to
ClockworkMod Recovery

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Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

2021-01-22 Thread Brenda J. Butler
On Sat, Jan 23, 2021 at 12:48:53AM -0500, Brenda J. Butler wrote:
> But unless you were
> willing to muck about with apk packaging, you had to use the Google Play
> store.

I am wrong!  There is FDroid.  I had forgotten.

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Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

2021-01-22 Thread Brenda J. Butler


When I had a real android smartphone, I put LineageOS (previously CyanogenMod)
on it.  So it was less offensive than plain android.  But unless you were
willing to muck about with apk packaging, you had to use the Google Play
store.

It was a bit of a pain to find and install apk packages.

Not all phones can run it.  I researched and bought phones that could
run it.

I also put ClockWorkMod as the recovery image.  It worked well.

bjb

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Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

2021-01-22 Thread Brenda J. Butler


> Hello Linux hive-mind -
> 
> Anyone out there in Linux-land with experience they are willing to share
> using a cell phone with good privacy that doesn't track you?

This request eventually reminded me about the Purism phone:

https://puri.sm/

which purports to be a ground-up phone OS designed for privacy.

I have not bought it but maybe I should.

I was under the impression that the person who started the
company was in Toronto but they are based in the States now.
But that is a vague memory and may be entirely false.

They don't have social media icons.  Their web page (front page)
is served from one server (impressive!).  They have a warrant
canary page and two people gpg-sign a message for that page on
a monthly basis.

Looks legit.

I'm guessing they are expensive as they are not subsidized
by Big Tech.  Haven't seen prices yet.

bjb


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Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

2021-01-22 Thread Brenda J. Butler


While I haven't looked at all the small low-end phones out there
so I can't say if this is true of all of them -

my flip-phone is low-powered but still a "smartphone".

It is the Alcatel Myflip mumble405thing and runs KaiOS rather
than Android or iOS.

It has a browser and if you wait long enough it loads most
pages (even ones with javascript).  Also some other apps
like contacts, notes, music/podcast player, calculator,
SMS/messaging, radio, etc.

So - just because it's a flipphone doesn't mean it's not capable
of smartphone stuff.

On the plus side - it seems to only run one app at a time : -)
so maybe it will slow down the big corporation trackers.  Heh.

Not sure about the "not tracking you" but for "physically
modular" and "repairable by end user" you can look for the fairphone.
Last I heard they only sold in Europe though.   Eww, I see they
now have one of those odious "dim-the-page-till-the-user-agrees-to-
accept-the-cookie-policy" pages.

Given corporations use other tech to track people now - I wish those
cookie warnings would go away.

bjb

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Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

2021-01-22 Thread Brett Delmage

On Fri, 22 Jan 2021, Ian! D. Allen wrote:


Anyone out there in Linux-land with experience they are willing to share
using a cell phone with good privacy that doesn't track you?


Cell phone? Privacy? Doesn't track you? Ha, thanks for the laugh on a 
Friday!


Actually, that's not entirely true. An Apple cell phone might be a bit 
private if you don't install most apps, don't enable the GPS receiver, 
also disable app location access, and don't install a SIM card to access 
the cell phone network unless you want to be subjected to police and MIB's 
stingrays and court-approved production orders.


Then run wifi (only) over your own private VPN, and block Apple server 
connections on that. If you want to use the cell phone for voice calls, 
install something like Groundwire (VOIP softphone) and send your comms to 
the telephone networks -- however private that is. not.


This is what I do.

For those using Apple phones, I highly recommend running Firefox with 
tracking protection at the highest level. Mozilla Focus is a great 
adjunct, which also seems to block the Ottawa Citizen and other sites' 
RTSP video. (I am always pleased when I pull up a Youtube video on my phone and YT 
recommends kids shows and pop culture crap.)


I'm not an Apple fan in partcular but it was a significantly better 
privacy starting point than Android, which is built from the bottom up to 
spy on users. Some day I'll get a cheap rootable android phone and install 
something more secure on that too.


Of course all this is still not private.

Or get a pinephone then log into Facebook all the time and use Google for 
your search engine and Google maps for route planning. For good measure, 
register your Presto card with your name and financial info. Or save the 
hassle and just get a modern motor vehicle with extensive tracking and 
reporting built in! As a lifelong cyclist I never imagined the day where 
riding a bike would be one the most untrackable ways to travel besides 
walking.


Be sure to use your rewards card and pay with your debit or credit card 
too.


To keep this really Linux-focussed, for those of you who don't know yet 
Ubuntu was booted to the full gnome desktop on an iPhone 7 about 10 days 
ago, although it is not fully functional yet (early days).


https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/kvmsfd/success_iphone_7_booting_ubuntu_2004_to_full/

But then: "broadband processor". 
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/170874-the-secret-second-operating-system-that-could-make-every-mobile-phone-insecure


Anyway, why would your friend not want to be "tracked" given all the 
benefits that a customized and highly networked experience brings. Do they 
have something to hide?


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Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

2021-01-22 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 13:15:52 -0500
"Ian! D. Allen"  wrote:

> Anyone out there in Linux-land with experience they are willing to
> share using a cell phone with good privacy that doesn't track you?

Does your friend need a smartphone?  If all she needs is a phone that
can make calls and do basic texting, then maybe a dumb phone along
the lines of one of these will do the trick:

https://www.cellphones.ca/cell-phones/p/best-basic-phone-10094/

Regards,

Dianne.

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Re: [linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

2021-01-22 Thread Mail
I've been lurking here for awhile and have no idea how to use the
mailing list so please excuse me if I've made a mistake.

On 2021-01-22 1:15 p.m., Ian! D. Allen wrote:
> Hello Linux hive-mind -
>
> A non-tech friend is trying to get out from under Apple and set up her
> cell phone and computers without Microsoft, Google, or Apple looking
> over her shoulder.  She is concerned about tracking and privacy.
>
> I can give her help with her future Linux desktop, but I don't even
> own a cell phone so I can't advise on "Linux" cell phones (or any kind
> of cell phones).
>
> Anyone out there in Linux-land with experience they are willing to share
> using a cell phone with good privacy that doesn't track you?

I own 3 PinePhones now https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/ They're a
good cheap Linux phone that has nothing to do with Apple or Google.
However, they're not ready for non-tech users and can be considered
"beta". They just recently got the phone to sleep correctly giving you
more than 2 hours of battery time. On top of this, things like MMSes
dont work out of the box, browsing the web is quite clunky. I am hopeful
for their future so maybe keep an eye on them?

I also use a Google Pixel3 with GrapheneOS. https://grapheneos.org/ but
any android device that supports an ASOP rom (For example LineageOS
without gapps) should be pretty dependable.


If you do go with the Pixel devices you have to get it directly from
google, which may not be ideal. The ones from carriers (telus, rogers,
etc) are locked so you cant install other roms.


Cheers,
Andrew




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[linux] recommend a 4 bay hot-swap chassis?

2021-01-22 Thread Alan McKay
Hey folks,

I have a couple of these and was looking for another one but seems
they are no longer available.  They go nicely into a tower case and
provide cheap drive hot-swap capabilities on a Linux server.

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00DGZ42SM

I think they were only about $80 each when I bought them.

Anyone have a recommendation for something similar?  I've been
searching around and not much coming up.

thanks,
-Alan


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 Unless you are busy, then you should sit for an hour"
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[linux] anyone using a privacy-protecting cell phone

2021-01-22 Thread Ian! D. Allen
Hello Linux hive-mind -

A non-tech friend is trying to get out from under Apple and set up her
cell phone and computers without Microsoft, Google, or Apple looking
over her shoulder.  She is concerned about tracking and privacy.

I can give her help with her future Linux desktop, but I don't even
own a cell phone so I can't advise on "Linux" cell phones (or any kind
of cell phones).

Anyone out there in Linux-land with experience they are willing to share
using a cell phone with good privacy that doesn't track you?

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